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achorladey:
The problem is not that we don't know it happens in other places. Jehovah's witnesses had used this very thing to point fingers at Roman catholic and others directly saying this and many more are reasons why Catholics are false Christians. When you say or point the same fingers towards Jehovah's Witnesses they will deny even one of them saying on this platform that it only happens to Jehovah's Witnesses in overseas and not in Nigeria.

MaxInDHouse:
Which church is Jesus talking about?

NairaLTQ:
Jesus was speaking about His Church!
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Sorry, Jesus doesn't deal with denominations especially dead ones like JW organisation. Are you surprised!?

Don't change the subject:
Explain Why you told lies about Mat 16:18?

NairaLTQ:
Jesus was speaking about His Church!
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
Sorry, Jesus doesn't deal with denominations especially dead ones like JW organisation. Are you surprised!?
Don't change the subject:
Explain Why you told lies about Mat 16:18?

Kingsempires:
abeg explain that Matthew 16 for me 🤧

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

Ken4Christ:
Even if he was not seen, I know that they are both in hell because of the evil work he did on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
You and i have had issues before now but later we became friends because i've made myself clear to you that only JWs are Christ's Church even though you find this difficult to accept i made it clear that that's my unchangeable stand.

This is the verse:

"You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation, and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:18-19

Peter declared that Jesus is the Christ Son of the living God {Matthew 16:16} this means that whatever any other religious leader that time teaches is WRONG if it contradicts Jesus' teachings because he is the only one having a direct connection with God.
So Jesus said on that point the true church will be established there can't be any rival for the true church just as you can't remember any religious teacher whose name or group stands as rival to that of Jesus because their group became inactive after God's Holy Spirit empowered Jesus' group in the first century {Act 1:8a} that's why all others Jewish religious groups turned against Jesus' group back then despite the fact that they are all criticizing one another.

Today the only congregation (church) that is known globally for their activities in PREACHING, TEACHING and ACTING in line with their teachings is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:

















Hell means Grave which connotes a state of inactivity so when Jesus said the "Gates of Hell" can't stop his church what he meant is that his church will be noticed globally for their activity {Matthew 5:14-16} even though they don't force their teachings on people {Matthew 10:16} they will conquer many pagan traditions and drag people out to become active preachers and teachers of God's word. Act 1:8

Now ask any of these people to explain as in expatiate on what Jesus meant in that verse!

MaxInDHouse:
So you can continue deceiving yourself the whole world can see the fine works of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matthew 5:14-16

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are talking!
The only church Jesus has in mind is JWs so the practical application of what Jesus said is:

You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation (church), and the gates of the Grave (inactivity) will not overpower it. Matthew 16:18

The one and only active congregation (performing church) throughout the world today is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

That's why none of you can mention any other name besides this despite the fact that you people are always arguing over doctrines.

On this forum OLAADEGBU is the most active Deeperlifer he has never spoken well of any other pastor or church except Deeperlife, do you know why?
Well it's simple: each religion is lead by a deceptive spirit that's lying to you people so when Kumuyi set up his own doctrine it's clear that it contradicts that of Adeboye and that's how it goes round yet these deceptive spirits keep lying to you people that you are all for the same Jesus even though there is great divisions among your leaders due to doctrine.
None of your churches is active in preaching and teaching so your doctrines are not known unlike that of the active church which you can quote whenever you are called upon.
That's what Jesus meant at Matthew 16:18 so everything is about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES no church (congregation) has anything close to that!

Kingsempires:
there are many interpretation of this verse but I don't even understand what maxinhouse was saying

Ken4Christ:
JW is the most wicked organisation in the world.

NairaLTQ:
Have a nice day!

NairaLTQ:
Don't mind him.
As far as he is concerned, there was an error in even their NWT as it should have read
Matthew 16:18-19
"You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation, Jehovah's Witness Organisation and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.”
Unfortunately, even the power to cast out baby demons, they don't have.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what the Pharisees and Sadducees told their people about Jesus and his disciples yet they are the one and only performing Jewish religious group in the first century.

Ọmọ what God has blessed no man can curse!

Ken4Christ:
I have lots of project I am working on. A book exposing all your lies would soon be released. And innocent captives will be set free. But you will rot in the very hell you deny its existence.

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ walahi talahi you are a joker!

So you understood what i've been saying all along.

Well that's exactly what Jesus meant because his real disciples never had different religions claiming they believe in the same Jesus yet contradicting themselves! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

MaxInDHouse:
And you too.
Don't forget that Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization that's ACTIVELY DOING GOD'S WILL TODAY.
So whatever you find in our publications as reference to scriptures has nothing to do with any religion outside our group it is strictly JW matter.
When our publication mention Christians it's referring only to JWs we're not your fellow believers, if you're not in submission to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses you are not a Christian from our point of view!

NairaLTQ:
You agree that your NWT was mistranslated!?
It's okay!
People see only what they want to see!

Gabrielshow24:
Even your conclusion is self-defeating. When Luke 9:49-55 clearly highlights the intent of God on such subject matter.🤨
You are definitely not part of us, you are doing the will of men!

MaxInDHouse:
You and i have had issues before now but later we became friends because i've made myself clear to you that only JWs are Christ's Church even though you find this difficult to accept i made it clear that that's my unchangeable stand.

This is the verse:

"You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my congregation, and the gates of the Grave will not overpower it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:18-19

Peter declared that Jesus is the Christ Son of the living God {Matthew 16:16} this means that whatever any other religious leader that time teaches is WRONG if it contradicts Jesus' teachings because he is the only one having a direct connection with God.
So Jesus said on that point the true church will be established there can't be any rival for the true church just as you can't remember any religious teacher whose name or group stands as rival to that of Jesus because their group became inactive after God's Holy Spirit empowered Jesus' group in the first century {Act 1:8a} that's why all others Jewish religious groups turned against Jesus' group back then despite the fact that they are all criticizing one another.

Today the only congregation (church) that is known globally for their activities in PREACHING, TEACHING and ACTING in line with their teachings is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:

















Hell means Grave which connotes a state of inactivity so when Jesus said the "Gates of Hell" can't stop his church what he meant is that his church will be noticed globally for their activity {Matthew 5:14-16} even though they don't force their teachings on people {Matthew 10:16} they will conquer many pagan traditions and drag people out to become active preachers and teachers of God's word. Act 1:8

Now ask any of these people to explain as in expatiate on what Jesus meant in that verse!

MaxInDHouse:
You have had your time, there is no time for you again!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you no fit stop honest hearted and sincere people from seeing the WORKS of God's organization.
Jesus said:
"By their fruits you will recognize them." Matthew 7:16a

Birds of the same feather. You are under divine punishment. According to the scripture:

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE
















A lot of people have made claims before you and many will still do after you are gone but none of them can cover people's eyes from seeing the fine works of faith among Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 5:14-16

Kingsempires:
wow thanks for your explanation 🙂

Ken4Christ:
Birds of the same feather. You are under divine punishment. According to the scripture:

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE

MaxInDHouse:
All of you put together can't force what OP said back into his throat!

NairaLTQ:
Liars excel in mixing a plate full of food with just a dose of poison of lies to make the whole food poisoned.

Is Jesus the Word of God?
Is Jesus is God's only-begotten Son and Savior?
Is Jesus a ransom sacrifice to atone for human sin?
The answer to these three questions is true even by your lying master's.

But, just like satan, they cannot help but mix lies with these truths, like
Jesus is Angel Michael!
Contrary to Heb 1:4 and Heb 1:5 and Heb1:13
Jesus is "a god"!
Contrary to Jn1:1
All other things were created by Jesus !
Contrary to Colossians 1:16-17


This is You and your masters!
When satan spoke to Eve, did he speak 100% lies or he mixed truth with lies?

Gen 3:4-5:
"And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die: For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

Same pattern after their Oga at the top Mr Satan!
Same with you.


Explain Why you told lies about Mat 16:18 ?
As You are just repeating your lies instead of using your lying master's explanation of Mat 16:18

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂so the name of Jesus father's name was minor and Jesus claimed that he declared it?


So when your child calls you father, he is actually calling you the name of the Almighty God of Jesus?
If the name Jesus declared is father, why are you not also declaring father as the name of God?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂So your child calls you the name of the Almighty God. Wonderful😂

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

Gabrielshow24:
Even your conclusion is self-defeating. When Luke 9:49-55 clearly highlights the intent of God on such subject matter.🤨

You are definitely not part of us, you are doing the will of men!