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Nukilia:
Instead of chasing after the boko boys slaughtering soldiers, the comedians are attacking utomi

Lol

I think say na kidnap abi na arrest they for arrest him first

Pat Utomi clearly explained what he meant, a type of check and balance public board, which is allowed on a democracy. In a democracy the people have the people, Pat Utomi and this forum are part of the people, hence can come together and scrutinize the government. Freedom of expression is sacrosanct, exceptions to violence of course...there is no violence or incitement here.

Why is APC government afraid of scrutiny?

Bobloco:
The same people who threatened to form a parallel government against the Goodluck Jonathan administration are now using state security apparatus to intimidate, harass, and sue Pat Utomi over his statement about a shadow government.

DSS did go after APC back then. Not for the shadow government threat specifically, but for a host of other reasons, including when APC was doing its membership drive, and DSS agents raided the registration office and carted away supplies.

And yes, there was the constant accusation and implication that APC was behind boko.

I am no APC supporter, but GEJ did send the DSS after them.

Tochi3:


..why a military man..? Why not a civilian..? Why a soldier...? Why not a Civilian administrator.?..did the constitution say it must be a military administrator..?

..why must it be a military man.. are we in a military rule ..?.. why Sack a whole State Assembly elected by the people..?

..Thief'nubu who lied that he fought for democrazy..jettisoned democrazy in River State..while under a fake democratical maladministration of mandate thieves..

d man appointed na military man?

DSS personnel are very dumb.....

A shadow government, is simply to checkmate activities, of government in power..... To simply hold them accountable.....

During military junta what he did xould amount to felony...It is almost Akin to the reason they arrest MKO. He could have chosen to name the movement something else but a shadow govt...No govt anywhere in the world even the small Benin rep. will watch the initiator on.

Now people will come with emotion to defend him especially the fish brains...When it s your turn, kindly allow such activity to grow...Allowing it will brew another set of impunity to sprout and grow..I think Utomi wants to be a democracy tag by going to jail because he will be jailed

Maxymilliano:
https://saharareporters.com/2025/05/14/dss-sues-pat-utomi-over-creation-shadow-govt-alleges-plot-usurp-tinubus-authority?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKR7bRjbGNrApHtm2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEe7q8ZTF0QvEnTuX9Ooo7_CgsusZNWyLvf_qqP3_q3qufL0cA7tY4NzWrkbWA_aem_e0B-BzR61bK8iJ9LBwtDZA

That should keep the cerebral and well-respected Prof busy for a while. He greatly misses the point. Voter education in the language the common man understands is what he should embark on. That way the common man is better enabled to make informed choices about who to vote for and why. Prof, go do that one and the evil politicians will be rejected at the polls even with their Dubai dollars! It might take ten to twenty years but lets start it now.

These people don't understand what a shadow government is ni? It is only meant as a platform to critique the current government's cabinet member performance and not to circumvent them. It is usually made up of opposition party with designated persons they deem fit could handle the various ministerial positions were it to be an actual government. They should watch the UK Parliament more

Maxymilliano:
https://saharareporters.com/2025/05/14/dss-sues-pat-utomi-over-creation-shadow-govt-alleges-plot-usurp-tinubus-authority?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKR7bRjbGNrApHtm2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEe7q8ZTF0QvEnTuX9Ooo7_CgsusZNWyLvf_qqP3_q3qufL0cA7tY4NzWrkbWA_aem_e0B-BzR61bK8iJ9LBwtDZA

RenaissanceGuy:
What trouble? It's like you don't know the difference between civil and criminal case. That they are suing him instead of arresting and charging him to court should you that even the DSS are trying to avoid trouble.

They are putting charges of trying to usurp the powers of the president, which is a treasonable offense and a criminal case.

Lexusgs430:
DSS is very dumb.....

A shadow government, is simply to checkmate activities, of government in power..... To simply hold them accountable.....

Oh boy you are the dumbest...Shadow govt means a secret govt...and more..They are capable of disrupting an established govt if not stopped... the way the dumb Nigeria youths have refused to think or allow their brain to process things accurately because of tribe among the youths in Africa is so nauseating

bigtt76:
These people don't understand what a shadow government is ni? It is only meant as a platform to critique the current government's cabinet member performance and not to circumvent them. It is usually made up of opposition party with designated persons they deem fit could handle the various ministerial positions were it to be an actual government. They should watch the UK Parliament more

Is it constitutional? Are we practicing parliamentary system like the UK?

He should be arrest.

That is a serious treasonable offense.

Dem born him to try this nonsense when Buhari was in power?

How dare him to say he has formed a shadow government? That a treason crime.

Arrest him now not just sue hm.

This was how Uganda pushed and pushed idi ami till he turned a dictator.

This was how Congo pushed and pushed Mobutu till he turned dictator.

This was how Zimbabwe pushed and pushed Mugabe till he turned a dictator.

Tinubu stop this nice man tactics seriously stop it. These things for 8 years could not dare Buhari because fulani herds go answer them and their community so Tinubu why allowing all these nonsense?

DSS should arrest him now.

What nonsense!!!

Even for America dem born anyone to dare form shadow government against Trump?

Dem born anyone to dare Putin?

Arrest him and lock him up.

nairalanda1:
DSS did go after APC back then. Not for the shadow government threat specifically, but for a host of other reasons, including when APC was doing its membership drive, and DSS agents raided the registration office and carted away supplies.

And yes, there was the constant accusation and implication that APC was behind boko.

I am no APC supporter, but GEJ did send the DSS after them.

Pat Utomi is a renowned activist, he is speaking from a place of good faith...not political party with sinister motives and modus operandi. The two scenarios are very different..
I wonder why you people give all your power to politicians, even if you are an APC member, when politicians want to take away civil rights, every sensible conscious person will stand on the side of freedom of expression and allowing public space operate and give their own opinions freely... democracy is about the people and constitution not about the feelings or fears of political office holders.

Useless government

mannobi:
He should be charged for treason

Tinubu should first arrest Turji and all the Bold Boko Haram leaders, slaughtering our Military officers and citizens.
Why can't DSS locate the Bandits disrupting the peace of Abuja?
Tinubu and his DSS are all cowards

Tinubu is actually the shadow of himself. When someone calls him a true democrat. I always laugh. Tinubu knew nothing about democracy. Imagine all he did during Jonathan time. Democrat my foot.

Putindbutt:
Even if they threatened to form it, did they form any parallel govt to Jonathan Govt and who were the members of the cabinet?. Must you guys always reason upside down?

Is pat Utomi operating a shadow government now?

Putindbutt:
Even if they threatened to form it, did they form any parallel govt to Jonathan Govt and who were the members of the cabinet?. Must you guys always reason upside down?

But why did they even proposed such since they knew it was a treason?

dederocs:
Pat Utomi is a renowned activist, he is speaking from a place of good faith...not political party with sinister motives and modus operandi. The two scenarios are very different..
I wonder why you people give all your power to politicians, even if you are an APC member, when politicians want to take away civil rights, every sensible conscious person will stand on the side of freedom of expression and allowing public space operate and give their own opinions freely... democracy is about the people and constitution not about the feelings or fears of political office holders.

1. Well, I am not defending any politican here, just showing that GEJ was not the gentleman you guys portray him to be. He did send the DSS after enemies, and his wife had her own personal attack er K9 in the NPF...who once jailed two journalists for 'insluting the honor of the first lady' (it took the intervention of the current Oba of Lagos, who was the guy's superior when he was in the force, before the journos were relased).

2. And anyw ay, DSS Is meant to go after anyone who they perceive to be a threat to the government..after adequate intelligence (and Utomi's shadow government does not really constitute a threat).

3. Your comment is in itself dangerous. You are essentially saying that it is OK for the DSS to go after the oppositon you don;t like, while they should leave the oppositon you like. Kind of weird...and wrong.

4. And anyway, I believe that the DSS should not have gone after APC in 2014, or Utomi today. Either way it is wrong. It is only when they have intelligence that they are stockpiling arms and weapons and training people in the bush, that yes, they should strike.

Please when will they also sue BOKO HARAM

nairalanda1:
1. Well, I am not defending any politican here, just showing that GEJ was not the gentleman you guys portray him to be. He did send the DSS after enemies, and his wife had her own personal attack er K9 in the NPF...who once jailed two journalists for 'insluting the honor of the first lady' (it took the intervention of the current Oba of Lagos, who was the guy's superior when he was in the force, before the journos were relased).

2. And anyw ay, DSS Is meant to go after anyone who they perceive to be a threat to the government..after adequate intelligence (and Utomi's shadow government does not really constitute a threat).

3. Your comment is in itself dangerous. You are essentially saying that it is OK for the DSS to go after the oppositon you don;t like, while they should leave the oppositon you like. Kind of weird...and wrong.

4. And anyway, I believe that the DSS should not have gone after APC in 2014, or Utomi today. Either way it is wrong. It is only when they have intelligence that they are stockpiling arms and weapons and training people in the bush, that yes, they should strike.

We should do better, going forward and giving our so called democracy space to mature and be truly a democracy of the people and for the people by the people, not politicians.

One day! This government go hail!

dederocs:
We should do better, going forward and giving our so called democracy space to mature and be truly a democracy of the people and for the people by the people, not politicians.

Yet you supported DSS going after APC in 2014, while you don't support them going after Utomi.

You just want your side to win, old man. Better change your thinking.

As for me, DSS had no business going after Utomi today, and APC back then. Simple and short.

Chinjo2:
So Pat Uromi is now Nigeria's problem abi?
Boko Haram just slaughtered some soldiers and displaced them from their base. Meanwhile the secret service who is supposed to be supplying actionable intelligence is busy going after its own citizens.

I want to advice you whatever that may be going on in the country don't break the law because if you do you won't go unpunished if you're caught.

Nukilia:
Instead of chasing after the boko boys slaughtering soldiers, the comedians are attacking utomi

(I don't like APC, by the way)

Always tired of seeing this.

DSS Has been going after Boko for ten years, if not longer. To the point that they essentially stopped Boko from being able to bomb cities like they were doing in 2014, and to the point where they can no longer operate across the country. They also caught a lot of tbe boko elite that are currently on trial

And yeah, insurgencies take time to defeat.

The main problem is that the issue is that since independence, na resource dependent economy we dey run. APC came in 2014 claiming they were going to diversify the economy....and up till today, they have not. 80% of government revenue comes from oil, and the revenue is too small. No industrial based economy....so a lot of idle hands.

DSS is doing their best...focus on the politicans who are yet to develop an economy free from oil. Focus on t-pain.

Judolisco:
d man appointed na military man?

..no..camera man from Nollywood..

We don't need to practice Parliamentary system like the UK to do this though, the current members of the Senate and House of Rep can take up same stance if only they knew what they are there to do.

Lastly, it is not unconstitutional so far as they don't go out to instigate members of the public to try to topple the government. There's freedom of speech and association enshrined in our constitution. This is what the shadow government members are riding on.

I understand you though, we can be too aggressive sometimes and that could lead to wrong meanings read into genuine plans.

zero8zero:
Is it constitutional? Are we practicing parliamentary system like the UK?

nairalanda1:
Yet you supported DSS going after APC in 2014, while you don't support them going after Utomi.

You just want your side to win, old man. Better change your thinking.

As for me, DSS had no business going after Utomi today, and APC back then. Simple and short.

Am not a party pawn, am not a sycophant, I am neither in APC nor PDP because they are both mediocre, what they are engaging in is money politics not ideological politicking, that is why they jump from one party to another all about their pockets. not every youth is cheap and gullible like you folks. Don't be a pawn...all politicians are in one boat, the people are in a seperate boat be wise.

bigtt76:
We don't need to practice Parliamentary system like the UK to do this though, the current members of the Senate and House of Rep can take up same stance if only they knew what they are there to do.

Lastly, it is not unconstitutional so far as they don't go out to instigate members of the public to try to topple the government. There's freedom of speech and association enshrined in our constitution. This is what the shadow government members are riding on.

I understand you though, we can be too aggressive sometimes and that could lead to wrong meanings read into genuine plans.

Is shadow Government in the constitution? yes or no. No time for long story. So non state actors can go ahead and start forming shadow Government because there's freedom of speech?. Don't we already have opposition parties and Several pressure groups responsible for opposing Govt policies?