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We're living in the last days and most of us don't know it. The bible says "in the days of Noah, there was eating, drinking and...(careless living)" until the flood came.
That's what we're experiencing this days as everyone is busy pursuing one deal or personalpursuit or the other. Forgetting that we'reon this earth to impact lives. Now to the heart of the matter:
A time will come when it will be impossible to spend your money. You'll have money in your account but you won't be able to access it unless you sign up for the one world government financial system. It'll be so bad that you can't gift the money to anyone not approved by the One world government. So as you go about your business know this truth and live right cos on that day ehn!!
You'll be caught between two choices. Take the mark and be able to do business or starve and make heaven through the combined efforts of other Christian family who'll be going through the same challenges as you.

Tomorrow I'll be sharing some other end time a Ganda through this thread so keep an eye out.

AngelahFlo:
➜We're living in the last days and most of us don't know it. The bible says "in the days of Noah, there was eating, drinking and...(careless living)" until the flood came....

1. Nonsense! The Last days as recorded in the Bible —Israelite Scripture — happened in the days that culminated in the eventual destruction of Jerusalem and eventually the nation of Judah as a result of the final Judgement of YHWH, God of Israel, on the people of Israel by way of His Law of Moses. We are talking of events that took place almost 2000 years ago.

AngelahFlo:
We're living in the last days and most of us don't know it. The bible says "in the days of Noah, there was eating, drinking and...(careless living)" until the flood came.
That's what we're experiencing this days as everyone is busy pursuing one deal or personalpursuit or the other. Forgetting that we'reon this earth to impact lives. Now to the heart of the matter:
A time will come when it will be impossible to spend your money. You'll have money in your account but you won't be able to access it unless you sign up for the one world government financial system. It'll be so bad that you can't gift the money to anyone not approved by the One world government. So as you go about your business know this truth and live right cos on that day ehn!!
You'll be caught between two choices. Take the mark and be able to do business or starve and make heaven through the combined efforts of other Christian family who'll be going through the same challenges as you.

https://www.nairaland.com/8389733/two-popularly-commingled-endtime-events

Read this thread and understand. The end of the great tribulation is different from the coming and establishment of the kingdom of God

Kobojunkie:
1. Nonsense! The Last days as recorded in the Bible —Israelite Scripture — happened in the days that culminated in the eventual destruction of Jerusalem and eventually the nation of Judah as a result of the final Judgement of YHWH, God of Israel, on the people of Israel by way of His Law of Moses. We are talking of events that took place almost 2000 years ago.

What you don't understand my brother is that what happened at the destruction of Jerusalem wasn't even on the end time agenda of God. That happened because of God's judgement on the nation of ancient Israel as a result of their sins. Note that God said that he will gather them together again as a nation which happened in 1947 or 1948 when Israel came together again as a Nation. The real last days are already upon us as I write this. Read Matthew 24 for signs of the end times and check to see if what Jesus outlined isn't already happening

MrPresident1:
https://www.nairaland.com/8389733/two-popularly-commingled-endtime-events

Read this thread and understand. The end of the great tribulation is different from the coming and establishment of the kingdom of God

I have gone through the thread. It's quite a long winding read.
The part I don't agree is that King David or Michael part. Michael mentioned in that bible passage you quoted is a personification of Jesus who's coming to Judge the world and to reign as King in the New Jerusalem which the Lord has prepared for his resurrected saints.

On the Issue of the rapture. We will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air as the Bible puts it. Now whether we will dissappear isn't categorically specified but there'll be a catching away. Read the account of Enoch in Genesis 5 and the account of Elijah who was caught up by a whirlwind and heavenly chariot. Those two bibe passages gave us an hint of the forthcoming rapture of the saints.

AngelahFlo:
➜ What you don't understand my brother is that what happened at the destruction of Jerusalem wasn't even on the end time agenda of God. That happened because of God's judgement on the nation of ancient Israel as a result of their sins.
➜ Note that God said that he will gather them together again as a nation which happened in 1947 or 1948 when Israel came together again as a Nation. The real last days are already upon us as I write this. Read Matthew 24 for signs of the end times and check to see if what Jesus outlined isn't already happening

. It wasn't on His agenda, even though He assured them that it would happen from as far back as the time of Moses. 🙄🙄

2. I didn't know YHWH is the United Nations and Britain, the actual ones responsible for the creation of the state of Israel? I guess so, you Christians are notorious for claiming he uses even the devil to accomplish His will, right?

Kobojunkie:
. It wasn't on His agenda, even though He assured them that it would happen from as far back as the time of Moses. 🙄🙄

2. I didn't know YHWH is the United Nations and Britain, the actual ones responsible for the creation of the state of Israel? I guess so, you Christians are notorious for claiming he uses even the devil to accomplish His will, right?

God uses whoever He wishes to fulfill His purpose . He used a BabylonIan mad king Nebuchanezzer to fulfill His purpose of punishing Isreal during the time of the destruction of the first temple

AngelahFlo:
➜God uses whoever He wishes to fulfill His purpose . He used a BabylonIan mad king Nebuchanezzer to fulfill His purpose of punishing Isreal during the time of the destruction of the first temple

. You are having me believe that your Christian god used the United Nations and Britain to set up the holy Israel promised? You are implying that the Israel we see today is a holy nation, abi? Basically, the best your Christian god has to offer? Kai! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kobojunkie:
. You are having me believe that your Christian god used the United Nations and Britain to set up the holy Israel promised? You are implying that the Israel we see today is a holy nation, abi? Basically, the best your Christian god has to offer? Kai! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What is your religion brother? I'm just curious

AngelahFlo:
➜What is your religion brother? I'm just curious

I am areligious — religion being the adoption of doctrines and traditions of men.

Kobojunkie:
I am areligious — religion being the adoption of doctrines and traditions of men.

Hmm Intereating. ..
Very Interesting
You're tryna sound like an embodiment of mystery which only God is. I'm a Christian who believe on the Lordship of Jesus and that He is the soon coming King whose Kingdom and reign will be an unending one. I believe you're either an agnostic or an atheist. I have no qualms about that. I'm an open minded individual who accepts everyone. But don't try to sound mysterious next time. I believe God has a plan for you. I have a question for you:
Who is God and Jesus to you?

AngelahFlo:
➜Hmm Intereating. .. Very Interesting . You're tryna sound like an embodiment of mystery which only God is.
➜I'm a Christian who believe on the Lordship of Jesus and that He is the soon coming King whose Kingdom and reign will be an unending one. I believe you're either an agnostic or an atheist. I have no qualms about that. I'm an open minded individual who accepts everyone. But don't try to sound mysterious next time. I believe God has a plan for you. I have a question for you:
➜Who is God and Jesus to you?

1. Embodiment of what?

2. The same Jesus Christ whose actual teachings none of you adhere to or consider worth noting? The world is not stewpid. You Christians only believe in the gods invented for you all via the doctrines and traditions set for you by your gods of men, the same ones who change their minds every other year about what your Christian god will or will not tolerate.

3. The Christian ideas are a joke to me.

Kobojunkie:
I am areligious — religion being the adoption of doctrines and traditions of men.

OK I understand
But isn't that confusing
If religions is supposed to be the doctrines of men. Where does the God factor come in?
Isn't man supposed to submit to a Higher being?

AngelahFlo:
➜OK I understand But isn't that confusing
➜If religions is supposed to be the doctrines of men. Where does the God factor come in? Isn't man supposed to submit to a Higher being?

Funny question! The one who defined religion as the doctrines and traditions of men is Jesus Christ of Israel, the one you, only moments ago, claimed you believe in. I like his definition best since it captures the fact that pretty much all religions are actually of the deliberations, traditions, and musings of the minds of the men who run them. They are no different from politics, really. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. I have never come across any information on any deity who is said to believe in any of the religions that men have created. Have you?

Kobojunkie:
Funny question! The one who defined religion as the doctrines and traditions of men is Jesus Christ of Israel, the one you, only moments ago, claimed you believe in. I like his definition best since it captures the fact that pretty much all religions are actually of the deliberations, traditions, and musings of the minds of the men who run them. They are no different from politics, really. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. I have never come across any information on any deity who is said to believe in any of the religions that men have created. Have you?

No
Then you shouldn't call yourself an areligious cos you're confusing yourself the more. What's more it makes you easily prone to delusions which ain't good. According to 2nd ThessalonIans 2: 10-11 such people are given over to a deluding spirit which makes them believe what is false. I pity for you but I won't stop praying for you.

AngelahFlo:
➜No Then you shouldn't call yourself an areligious cos you're confusing yourself the more. What's more it makes you easily prone to delusions which ain't good. According to 2nd ThessalonIans 2: 10-11 such people are given over to a deluding spirit which makes them believe what is false. I pity for you but I won't stop praying for you.

Your statements make no sense to me. According to Jesus Christ of Israel, if I do not subscribe to the doctrines and traditions of men, which are the basis of all known religions, then clearly, I am irreligious. Jesus Christ of Israel also declared that religion as described by him is an abomination to His Father. Are you insinuating that Jesus Christ of Israel got it all wrong?

AngelahFlo:
We're living in the last days and most of us don't know it. The bible says "in the days of Noah, there was eating, drinking and...(careless living)" until the flood came.
That's what we're experiencing this days as everyone is busy pursuing one deal or personalpursuit or the other. Forgetting that we'reon this earth to impact lives. Now to the heart of the matter:
A time will come when it will be impossible to spend your money. You'll have money in your account but you won't be able to access it unless you sign up for the one world government financial system. It'll be so bad that you can't gift the money to anyone not approved by the One world government. So as you go about your business know this truth and live right cos on that day ehn!!
You'll be caught between two choices. Take the mark and be able to do business or starve and make heaven through the combined efforts of other Christian family who'll be going through the same challenges as you.

LoLz. You lot have been "living in the last days" for the past 2000 years. Abeg talk another thing.

LordReed:
LoLz. You lot have been "living in the last days" for the past 2000 years. Abeg talk another thing.

OP we need the reminder Na. Or don't you think so

Kobojunkie:
Your statements make no sense to me. According to Jesus Christ of Israel, if I do not subscribe to the doctrines and traditions of men, which are the basis of all known religions, then clearly, I am irreligious. Jesus Christ of Israel also declared that religion as described by him is an abomination to His Father. Are you insinuating that Jesus Christ of Israel got it all wrong?

No brother it's your interpretation that is wrong. Jesus Christ came to introduce us to a lifestyle not a religion. Not what is ascribed to the doctrines of men. It why He said He is the way to the Father. The Truth about the Father and the Life of the Father. It might not make sense to you by my explanation but its what it is. Thats why followers of Jesus Christ (who is not just Jesus Christ of Israel but Jesus Christ of all nations who recognize Him as the Supreme Lord of Lords and The King of Kings) are called Christians

AngelahFlo:
➜No brother[b] it's your interpretation that is wrong[/b]. Jesus Christ came to introduce us to a lifestyle not a religion. Not what is ascribed to the doctrines of men. It why He said He is the way to the Father. The Truth about the Father and the Life of the Father. It might not make sense to you by my explanation but its what it is. Thats why followers of Jesus Christ (who is not just Jesus Christ of Israel but Jesus Christ of all nations who recognize Him as the Supreme Lord of Lords and The King of Kings) are called Christians

. I offered you no interpretation, so explain where you get this false idea that I did from?

Again, Jesus Christ of Israel is noted to have condemned the doctrines and traditions of men—in other words, religion—proclaiming that those who follow such follow abominations. Are you insinuating that Jesus Christ of Israel lied or was in error in making that claim of His?

Kobojunkie:
. I offered you no interpretation, so explain where you get this false idea that I did from?

Again, Jesus Christ of Israel is noted to have condemned the doctrines and traditions of men—in other words, religion—proclaiming that those who follow such follow abominations. Are you insinuating that Jesus Christ of Israel lied or was in error in making that claim of His?

Jesus only pointed the way to God. He wasn't in error when he condemned religion which as you say, are the doctrines of men. He wasn't in error neither did he lie. I'm not saying that He lied I'm just saying He came to point the way to Father who we must worship. And the only way to the Father is through Him. We're saying the same thing only that your explanation is somehow fuzzy compared to mine. So Brother I'm not disputing your argument I'm only clarifying your angle by presenting it in a more clearer form. Jesus Christ of Israel is the way, the truth and the Life and it's only through Him that we can get to God not through the doctrines of men which was why He condemned it right from the time He was on earth as a man

AngelahFlo:
➜Jesus only pointed the way to God. He wasn't in error when he condemned religion which as you say, are the doctrines of men. He wasn't in error neither did he lie. I'm not saying that He lied I'm just saying He came to point the way to Father who we must worship. And the only way to the Father is through Him.
➜ We're saying the same thing only that your explanation is somehow fuzzy compared to mine. So Brother I'm not disputing your argument I'm only clarifying your angle by presenting it in a more clearer form.
➜ Jesus Christ of Israel is the way, the truth and the Life and it's only through Him that we can get to God not through the doctrines of men which wad why He condemned it right from the time He was on earth as a man

Again, Jesus Christ of Israel condemned doctrines and traditions of men, describing them as abominations against the works of His Father. Saying that He only pointed the way to God is an attempt to undermine the meaning of His declaration there.

2. Stop lying! You and I are not saying the same thing. You are not clarifying but attempting to reshuffle my words in an attempt to make it seem your religious delusions remain justified when they are nothing but abominations to the Jesus Christ of Israel, whom you earlier claimed belief in.

3. Jesus Christ of Israel also made it abundantly clear that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of the man called Jacob. Saying He is the way, the truth and Life to Nigerians — non-Israelites — is also a lie.

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ of Israel condemned doctrines and traditions of men, describing them as abominations against the works of His Father. Saying that He only pointed the way to God is an attempt to undermine the meaning of His declaration there.

2. Stop lying! You and I are not saying the same thing. You are not clarifying but attempting to reshuffle my words in an attempt to make it seem your religious delusions remain justified when they are nothing but abominations to the Jesus Christ of Israel, whom you earlier claimed belief in.

3. Jesus Christ of Israel also made it abundantly clear that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of the man called Jacob. Saying He is the way, the truth and Life to Nigerians — non-Israelites — is also a lie.

Brother now I see where you got it all mixed up. True Jesus Christ actually said He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel but remember his discourse with the disciples in John 14. He said He will send another Comforter to theM for the singular purpose of guiding them into all truth. So you saying that Jesus Cheist wasn't sent to Nigerians because they ain't the lost sheep of Israel is a lie. So as not banter argumenst back and forth. What denomination are you.
I'm Pentecostal and a member of House on the Rock Church. What of you which denomination are you?

AngelahFlo:
➜Brother now I see where you got it all mixed up. True Jesus Christ actually said He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel but remember his discourse with the disciples in John 14.
➜ He said He will send another Comforter to theM for the singular purpose of guiding them into all truth.
➜ So you saying that Jesus Cheist wasn't sent to Nigerians because they ain't the lost sheep of Israel is a lie.
➜ So as not banter argumenst back and forth. What denomination are you. I'm Pentecostal and a member of House on the Rock Church. What of you which denomination are you?

I don't follow! Are you insinuating that when Jesus Christ of Israel said He was sent to His Father only to the Lost Sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob— that statement was made in error and was later changed by Jesus Christ or something?

2. Why does His having to send another comforter to them to guide them into all truth amount to the first statement being no longer valid? I don't get it. Who was the first comforter that was sent to them?

3. Jesus Christ of Israel Himself made that claim that He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel, and since He also indicated that He only did that which His Father willed, implying that His only people were those chosen by His Father for Him to go to. So, how could the same man have been sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel and the same to people who aren't of that bloodline — Non-Israelites?

4. Recall, that I made clear to you earlier that I am areligious;I despise the traditions and doctrines of men. I am not a Christian, and I don't belong to any religion.

AngelahFlo:
OP we need the reminder Na. Or don't you think so

2000 years is more than enough time to know it's bunkum.

LordReed:
2000 years is more than enough time to know it's bunkum.

Don't sat so my Lord Reed.
We are still in the last days

LordReed:
2000 years is more than enough time to know it's bunkum.

Especially when Jesus said the second coming will occur before people alive at that time die off.