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TenQ:
Your lack of understanding is huge my dear
Let me point out your basic errors first.
1. Demons are NOT the same as Jinns
2. Demons are not fallen Angels
3. Demons cannot take up physical forms

Small wonders your ignorance leads to wreckless diarrhea and typically typing nonsense.

The idea that demons are actually fallen angels is strongly backed by Scripture, highlighting their rebellion against God and their connection to Satan.

For instance, in Isaiah 14:12-15, we witness Lucifer's fall as he tries to elevate himself above God, which marks the beginning of demonic forces.
Additionally, Revelation 12:7-9 illustrates a heavenly battle where Michael and his angels confront the dragon—Satan—who, along with his followers, is cast down to earth. This connection emphasizes their ongoing resistance to divine intentions.

Ephesians 6:12 further clarifies this conflict against spiritual evil, confirming that demons are indeed fallen angels standing against God's will.

TenQ:
Here was the Original post several months ago



https://www.nairaland.com/8169188/man-comfortably-represent-satan-lying

ah several months ago was my first reaction but on reading it, I couldn't help but laugh and understand why honesttalk was provoked but has he answered how the demon was caught and tied and if it's something only that man could or others in Muslim do it as well

honesttalk21:
Small wonders your ignorance leads to wreckless diarrhea and typically typing nonsense.

The idea that demons are actually fallen angels is strongly backed by Scripture, highlighting their rebellion against God and their connection to Satan.

For instance, in Isaiah 14:12-15, we witness Lucifer's fall as he tries to elevate himself above God, which marks the beginning of demonic forces.
Additionally, Revelation 12:7-9 illustrates a heavenly battle where Michael and his angels confront the dragon—Satan—who, along with his followers, is cast down to earth. This connection emphasizes their ongoing resistance to divine intentions.

Ephesians 6:12 further clarifies this conflict against spiritual evil, confirming that demons are indeed fallen angels standing against God's will.

it is interesting how you turn to the bible, the one that is corrupted to justify what's inside the Quran that is perfect

gohf:
it is interesting how you turn to the bible, the one that is corrupted to justify what's inside the Quran that is perfect

You really don't get it. There's some truth in the Bible and there are the untruths besides an explanation about fallen angels is best taken from the place where it's mentioned. You get?

gohf:
ah several months ago was my first reaction but on reading it, I couldn't help but laugh and understand why honesttalk was provoked but has he answered how the demon was caught and tied and if it's something only that man could or others in Muslim do it as well

Don't mind Muslims.

Their default state is that Mohammed and their Scholars cannot be wrong. On that they base all their faith and salvation .

Unfortunately, the man is a chronic pathological liar easy to decode! Unfortunately, because of the default state of Muslims, they make excuses for his lies and fabrications.

Only Mohammed as usual saw the Afreet.
Allah hu Akbar!

honesttalk21:
Small wonders your ignorance leads to wreckless diarrhea and typically typing nonsense.

The idea that demons are actually fallen angels is strongly backed by Scripture, highlighting their rebellion against God and their connection to Satan.

For instance, in Isaiah 14:12-15, we witness Lucifer's fall as he tries to elevate himself above God, which marks the beginning of demonic forces.
Additionally, Revelation 12:7-9 illustrates a heavenly battle where Michael and his angels confront the dragon—Satan—who, along with his followers, is cast down to earth. This connection emphasizes their ongoing resistance to divine intentions.

Ephesians 6:12 further clarifies this conflict against spiritual evil, confirming that demons are indeed fallen angels standing against God's will.

You think it is honourable either by you or the admins to delete posts you don't like!?

Lol they will remove and block tire till they close down this thread

gohf:
Lol they will remove and block tire till they close down this thread

Don't mind them.

Since they removed the swearing to Islamic sections, I've noticed that. Initially I thought it was the Nairaland SpamBots until I saw that even screenshots were also deleted.

This can only only be humans behind the removals

NairaLTQ:
You think it is honourable either by you or the admins to delete posts you don't like!?

The same diarrhea or what? Rather than spewing your vomit why not tell how my summation that fallen angels are demons? You do not have the capacity for that?


Luke 8:2 "and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out"

Matt 8:28-28
When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.

29 "What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?

Mr know it all or too much tenq please tell what the origin of demons is?
Maybe you can have gohf help if you're too lazy or incapable of doing the research yourself.

Does the creation story in the Bible address it? Quit the childish haughtiness and say.

honesttalk21:
The same diarrhea or what? Rather than spewing your vomit why not tell how my summation that fallen angels are demons? You do not have the capacity for that?


Luke 8:2 "and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out"

Matt 8:28-28
When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.

29 "What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?

Mr know it all or too much tenq please tell what the origin of demons is?
Maybe you can have gohf help if you're too lazy or incapable of doing the research yourself.

Does the creation story in the Bible address it? Quit the childish haughtiness and say.

Did I not ask you some basic questions you avoided like a plague? Instead of you answering the questions, either you or your admin friend thinks it is honourable to delete my responses.

1. Do Jinn in Islam possess some people?
2. Do demons in Christianity possess people?
Now,
3. Do you have ANY evidence that Angels can possess people in Islam?
4. Do you have ANY evidence that Angels can possess people in Christianity?


Again:
There is no explicit scripture linking demons to fallen angels. If you know one, let me know.
Here is the origin of Demons:
1. The hybrid offspring between Fallen Angels and Human women are Nephillims. Genesis 6:1-4
2. During the Flood of Noah, God killed of everything man, woman, animals and Nephillims on the earth. Genesis 7:21-23
3. The Spirit/Souls of Humans went to Sheol the of the dead. 1Peter 3:18-20 shows Jesus offering them salvation
4. The angels that committed the atrocities were arrested and imprisoned with everlasting chains Jude 1:6 , 2Peter 2:4
5. The Spirits of Nephillims (Human/Angel Hybrid) dispossessed of their bodies remained on the Earth. Thus, they crave Living bodies to possess like diseases!
6. Jesus thus called them Unclean Spirits who go roaming about the earth looking for rest. Matthew 12:43-45
7. Fallen Angels on the other hands do NOT need human or animal bodies for their complete nature as they are complete by themselves. However, they become principalities, powers over nations and spiritual wickedness in the high places. Ephesians 6:12. Christians do not wrestle with demons, we cast them out

So, Fallen Angels are NOT demons. Fallen Angels remain powerful principalities that influence evil in Nations. They never have to live in any human or animal bodies as they are complete by themselves in creation. Demons are like diseases and infections who need a living being to express themselves as they used to be with a body before God killed them off the earth



According to Islam, Allah created the Jinn
1. If Jinn are demons, could it be that the original source of demons is Allah?
2. Since Islamic Jinn can be Muslims or Christians etc. Did Allah send prophets to the Jinn and which prophets did Allah send?
3. Is there any prophet other than Mohammed who thinks that Demons/Jinn are created by God from smokeless fire?
4. If satan's offence was that he did NOT prostrate to Adam, what was the offence of the other Jinn that they were sent out of paradise?
5. Is it true that the Islamic paradise is in heaven (as Moses thinks that paradise was on earth)?

Unlike you, I answer direct questions
I am patiently waiting for you to AVOID answering any of my questions as usual.

You have two sets of questions: part one at the beginning of this post and part two at the end.

honesttalk21:
You really don't get it. There's some truth in the Bible and there are the untruths besides an explanation about fallen angels is best taken from the place where it's mentioned. You get?

okay why don't you state for us the things in the bible that you find as truths. It would also be interesting to note how you accept those ones as true.

TenQ:
Mr honesttalk21


I told you that two nights ago, at about 10pm, I arrested one Jinn and beat it black and blue. I asked it to kneel and raise up it's hand till about 4am when I finally released it to go because it was crying profusely and begging me. You will pity this Afreet when you see it.

BTW: I wanted to snap a picture of it to show you but my phone's battery died out


Why are you not responding, Do you disbelieve me?

😂

TenQ:
Don't mind them.

Since they removed the swearing to Islamic sections, I've noticed that. Initially I thought it was the Nairaland SpamBots until I saw that even screenshots were also deleted.

This can only only be humans behind the removals

this should be their biggest opportunity to win over heretics and atheists, but I am not sure they would be able to win over a level head person with basic logical reasoning with their contradictions which lead to more confusions that they are refusing to face. They should be seeing the benefits of being able to properly answer unbelievers and explain why they believe but their responses lack cognitive explanations.

honesttalk21:
The same diarrhea or what? Rather than spewing your vomit why not tell how my summation that fallen angels are demons? You do not have the capacity for that?


Luke 8:2 "and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out"

Matt 8:28-28
When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.

29 "What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?

Mr know it all or too much tenq please tell what the origin of demons is?
Maybe you can have gohf help if you're too lazy or incapable of doing the research yourself.

Does the creation story in the Bible address it? Quit the childish haughtiness and say.

none of the biblical verses you quoted highlight that fallen angels are demons.

Now I do not agree with everything narialtq states, some say fallen angels are demons and some say otherwise.

But I can pick one question from what he wrote and oblige you for an answer please. Do you Muslims believe that Gabriel or Jubril impregnated Mary?

gohf:
none of the biblical verses you quoted highlight that fallen angels are demons.

Now I do not agree with everything narialtq states, some say fallen angels are demons and some say otherwise.

But I can pick one question from what he wrote and oblige you for an answer please. Do you Muslims believe that Gabriel or Jubril impregnated Mary?

The question is where did these demons come from?

Is Satan a demon or head demon?

According to your Bible was he an angel?

Did he have a following amongst the angels that rebelled against almighty God with him

honesttalk21:
The question is where did these demons come from?

Is Satan a demon or head demon?

According to your Bible was he an angel?

Did he have a following amongst the angels that rebelled against almighty God with him

this isn't an answer to the question

Do you Muslims believe that Gabriel or Jubril impregnated Mary?

When we say you people don't answer questions people like jimrohn will come with their rhetoric verbosity to claim otherwise, so please answer the question.

gohf:
this should be their biggest opportunity to win over heretics and atheists, but I am not sure they would be able to win over a level head person with basic logical reasoning with their contradictions which lead to more confusions that they are refusing to face. They should be seeing the benefits of being able to properly answer unbelievers and explain why they believe but their responses lack cognitive explanations.

I agree with you.
They cannot intellectually defend islamic claims so they have to resort to asserting their beliefs as if affirmation proves their position.

honesttalk21:
The question is where did these demons come from?

Is Satan a demon or head demon?

According to your Bible was he an angel?

Did he have a following amongst the angels that rebelled against almighty God with him

Feigning dumbness doesn't help your case.

Satan is NOT a Demon.
The Angels that were cast out of God's heaven are not demons. They are principalities, powers, and spiritual forces of wickedness in the high places.

Demons are spirits of Nephillims!

TenQ:
Feigning dumbness doesn't help your case.

Satan is NOT a Demon.
The Angels that were cast out of God's heaven are not demons. They are principalities, powers, and spiritual forces of wickedness in the high places.

Demons are spirits of Nephillims!

Do Demons work for or with Satan?

honesttalk21:
Do Demons work for or with Satan?

Satan is one of the fallen Angels: a leader amongst them.
Demons are children of fallen angels, they must do the work of their parents shouldn't they?