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P1PrinceKT:
Jihad has rule. And it was provided to prevent Muslim from other infidel's domination and oppression. What you're seeing now is not Jihad known my God. However, u can wide your knowledge.

This is a response to someone's post that anything Jihad is evil, is this response supposed to be a form of justification for Jihad?

Tenq what's your take on this

gohf:
This is a response to someone's post that anything Jihad is evil, is this response supposed to be a form of justification for Jihad?

Tenq what's your take on this

This is Islamic Taqqiya (deception)

Jihad simply means holy war/struggle.
It is enjoined for Muslims to wage jihad on all non-muslims. Because in Islam, there are only two divides.
1. Dar al-Islam ("house or abode of Islam" or "house of peace": This refers to lands under Muslim rule where Islamic law (Sharia) prevails and Muslims live in peace and security. It includes both Muslims and non-Muslims (dhimmis) who are protected under Muslim governance.
2. Dar al-Harb ("house or abode of war": This denotes lands not under Muslim rule or Sharia law, considered enemy territories where, classically, a state of conflict or war could exist until they accept Muslim sovereignty or peace treaties.

Muslims should kill idolaters if they refuse to become Muslims. They don't have a choice

Christians and Jews must convert to Islam or pay the Jizyah (humiliation tax) and live as a second class citizen if they will not convert to Islam.

This is Jihad as defined by Allah even though modern Muslims will want to redefine Jihad to mean means "struggle" or "striving" in the path of Allah and it is defined as encompasses multiple dimensions such as struggle (establishing Islam) with a Muslim's Wealth, Money, Position , Verbal, Intellectual and real warfare.

Qur'an 9:41
So go out, no matter whether you are lightly or heavily armed, and struggle in God’s way with your possessions and your lives: this is better for you, if you only knew.

The hadiths also primarily define Jihad in terms of WAR and WARFARE!

TenQ:
This is Islamic Taqqiya (deception)

Jihad simply means holy war/struggle.
It is enjoined for Muslims to wage jihad on all non-muslims. Because in Islam, there are only two divides.
1. Dar al-Islam ("house or abode of Islam" or "house of peace": This refers to lands under Muslim rule where Islamic law (Sharia) prevails and Muslims live in peace and security. It includes both Muslims and non-Muslims (dhimmis) who are protected under Muslim governance.
2. Dar al-Harb ("house or abode of war": This denotes lands not under Muslim rule or Sharia law, considered enemy territories where, classically, a state of conflict or war could exist until they accept Muslim sovereignty or peace treaties.

Muslims should kill idolaters if they refuse to become Muslims. They don't have a choice

Christians and Jews must convert to Islam or pay the Jizyah (humiliation tax) and live as a second class citizen if they will not convert to Islam.

This is Jihad as defined by Allah even though modern Muslims will want to redefine Jihad to mean means "struggle" or "striving" in the path of Allah and it is defined as encompasses multiple dimensions such as struggle (establishing Islam) with a Muslim's Wealth, Money, Position , Verbal, Intellectual and real warfare.

Qur'an 9:41
So go out, no matter whether you are lightly or heavily armed, and struggle in God’s way with your possessions and your lives: this is better for you, if you only knew.

The hadiths also primarily define Jihad in terms of WAR and WARFARE!

Sir I can pick up a number of points from what you wrote

1. Some modern day Muslims are trying to change the meaning and interpretation of their own text.

This could mean that you are telling us that the original meaning and usage of this text, especially the term Jihad, is being redefine to mean something which it is not. If this is true couldn't there be a genuine intention to them correcting it's meaning and usage. Which could also state that they admit that they believe that their earlier practitioners of their texts were wrong.

2. Could we also infer that apart from it not fostering peace, there's a possibility that even if the war nature isn't popularly practice the intimidation and subtly discrimination is still in practice as a form of Jihad by those in power able to do so. As we can't be counting those unable to win a war nor rich enough, can we say that if Muslims are the ruling class, the wealthy they would enforce jihad or would they abolish it with their power

gohf:
Sir I can pick up a number of points from what you wrote

1. Some modern day Muslims are trying to change the meaning and interpretation of their own text.

This could mean that you are telling us that the original meaning and usage of this text, especially the term Jihad, is being redefine to mean something which it is not. If this is true couldn't there be a genuine intention to them correcting it's meaning and usage. Which could also state that they admit that they believe that their earlier practitioners of their texts were wrong.

Islam is being modernised daily by islamic scholars.
The problem Muslims scholars are facing now is the INTERNET because it keeps record of their religious sources. It is now difficult for them to deceive people as usual.

What people don't realise is that no Muslim take the Qur'an or Hadith at their face value. They rely on the opinion of their own scholars for interpretation and understanding.

Just go to www.sunnah.com and search for Jihad, it would be plain to you that 95% of the time, Jihad is in the context of WAR, KILLING and FIGHTING.

Modern scholar want to portray Islam as peaceful BUT it is only because they lack the political dominance and power to impose SHARIAH.

gohf:
2. Could we also infer that apart from it not fostering peace, there's a possibility that even if the war nature isn't popularly practice the intimidation and subtly discrimination is still in practice as a form of Jihad by those in power able to do so. As we can't be counting those unable to win a war nor rich enough, can we say that if Muslims are the ruling class, the wealthy they would enforce jihad or would they abolish it with their power

Muslims are peaceful ONLY when they lack the political power and population to enforce Islam on others.QED!

In Islam, Deception (Taqqiya) is NORMAL as they believe that Islam is perpetually at war AND as long as the LIE was to defend Allah, Mohammed and Islam, it is justified.

This is why Muslim scholars tell lies to their followers.
Muslim scholars tell another kind of lies to Christians and Jews
AND the Followers believe both LIES without question

Quran 5:101
"O believers! Do not ask about any matter which, if made clear to you, may disturb you. But if you inquire about what is being revealed in the Quran, it will be made clear to you. Allah has forgiven what was done ˹in the past˺."

They are forbidden to ask necessary questions about the Qur'an and Hadiths.

Every Christian is called to be an OCCUPIER (a Jihadist) anywhere and everywhere they find themselves, to resist Rome and its influences everywhere on the face of this earth

Luke 19:12-13
King James Version
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Every Christian, professing Christian, born again christian, unborn again Christian, you are part of the ten servants, the number ten is a completion

You are ordered to OCCUPY TILL I COME! Rule, dominate, overtake, struggle, takeover till I come

AntiChristian:
So Anti-Christian is Satanist?

Was Christ a Christian?

No, he was also a Satanist according to the guy

MrPresident1:
Every Christian is called to be an OCCUPIER (a Jihadist) anywhere and everywhere they find themselves, to resist Rome and its influences everywhere on the face of this earth

Luke 19:12-13
King James Version
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

Every Christian, professing Christian, born again christian, unborn again Christian, you are part of the ten servants, the number ten is a completion

You are ordered to OCCUPY TILL I COME! Rule, dominate, overtake, struggle, takeover till I come

occupy means get busy and not what you wrote.

Get busy with what?

See IQ smh. Get busy labouring and slaving under the roman yoke, I see that's what you mean

gohf:
occupy means get busy and not what you wrote.

MrPresident1:
Get busy with what?

See IQ smh. Get busy labouring and slaving under the roman yoke, I see that's what you mean

stop making sounds by shaking your head and use it properly

Every Christian must get busy occupyimg

gohf:
stop making sounds by shaking your head and use it properly