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Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This account clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

Stop speaking like an ignorant, you don't even own the argument, you copied someone else's arguments and present it without having any iota of knowledge about the subject.
1 Corinthians 14:13-15
[13]Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
[14]For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
[15]What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

-Why will Paul ask believers to pray for the gift of interpretation if the unknown tongues of every tongue is understood already and an existing language?.
- Where does the bible say that tongues must be in existing language?.
- Why does it edify the spirit alone if it were a language we can just use Google translate to understand?
- How do you know that the word "Shabahbahbah" doesn't have meaning in someone else's language or even in a defunct language?
Secondly, the church fathers believe in speaking in unknown tongues and they never teach that it must be an existing language. It's the heretic teachers of modern Christianity that teach and think carnality that don't understand speaking of tongues.
- What's the difference between Xenoglossia and Glossolalia?
- Why does Lalia, as in Glossolalia (speaking of tongues, the Greek word for speaking in tongues), means to "babble" if speaking of tongues doesn't involve babbling like "SHABAHBAHBAH"?.
- Why do you think speaking of tongues shouldn't involve babbling when the bible says tongues are unintelligible speech according to 1 Corinthians 14:2?
1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

On any biblical doctrine you have no knowledge, just keep quiet instead of misleading people. Teachers are to face stringent punishment according to the bible Shay you remember?!.

mastermaestro:
➜At least before you come boldly to lecture people on Biblical doctrines, study diligently first. There are two kinds of tongues. One, of men, and the second, of angels. As far back as the Old Testament, the second tongue which is prevalent today was known to GOD'S messenger.
Read these verses below and learn so you stop misleading others.
1 Corinthians 13:1 KJV
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Daniel 5:5,7-9,24-28 KJV
In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. [7] The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom. [8] Then came in all the king's wise men : but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof. [9] Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied. [24] Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. [25] And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. [26] This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE ; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. [27] TEKEL ; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. [28] PERES ; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

But there's a major problem with this assumption of yours regarding what was written on the wall, and that is that it was written in a language foreign to humans. Daniel never said that the code on the wall was written in the language of angels, though. So, why would you think to link it to an alien language?

Also, you people keep saying there are two kinds of tongues with one belonging to humans and another belonging to angels, but if you read the book you keep miscontruing well, you would have seen where Jesus Christ of Israel — the one whom Paul insists is his master — regards His followers — children of God — are angels, and also insists that the children of the devil are also angels — different factions of course. Yes, Jesus Christ of Israel regarded His followers as angels, and it is to them that He gave the sign of speaking in a human language with they had never learned — only those who are angels of Jesus Christ of Israel have this ability. When Paul wrote of human language and of angel language, Paul most likely had been trying to address separately the language one learned— he regarded this as human — and the unlearned language — he regarded this as angel language.

@BouquiLake said....You are challenging another church... You left the enemy and started fighting another part of the body of christ?
Hm

But that is what people of all religions do. They attack each other to claim superiority over the rest. Even the Muslims are famous for their sunni-shia rivalry!😁😁😁

KaLuCh:
OK. I'll bite. I'll give you a scripture. If you care to know, read. If you don't, don't.

SPEAKING IN TONGUES DOES NOT MEAN SPEAKING A KNOWN HUMAN LANGUAGE. What happened in the book of Acts is not how you guys erroneously read it.
The apostles spoke in unknown tongues, but God opened the understanding of the people who heard them and they could understand the apostles in their very own language. You can see proof of this from the bible verses below. This still happens today.

You can ask questions or bring up objections and let's talk about them.


1 Corinthians 14:2
2) For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 14:23
23) So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?

1 Corinthians 14:27-28
27) If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.

28) If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

1 Corinthians 14:6-17

6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?

7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes?

8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?

9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.

10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning.

11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me.

12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church.

13 For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say.

14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.

15 So what shall I do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will also pray with my understanding; I will sing with my spirit, but I will also sing with my understanding.

16 Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer, say “Amen” to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying?

17 You are giving thanks well enough, but no one else is edified.

This is what they keep failing to understand when Bible boldly addressed such issue

smokinloud:
➜ Why will Paul ask believers to pray for the gift of interpretation if the unknown tongues of every tongue is understood already and an existing language?.
➜ Where does the bible say that tongues must be in existing language?.
➜ Why does it edify the spirit alone if it were a language we can just use Google translate to understand?
➜ How do you know that the word "Shabahbahbah" doesn't have meaning in someone else's language or even in a defunct language?
➜ Secondly, the church fathers believe in speaking in unknown tongues and they never teach that it must be an existing language. It's the heretic teachers of modern Christianity that teach and think carnality that don't understand speaking of tongues.
➜ - What's the difference between Xenoglossia and Glossolalia?
➜ Why does Lalia, as in Glossolalia (speaking of tongues, the Greek word for speaking in tongues), means to "babble" if speaking of tongues doesn't involve babbling like "SHABAHBAHBAH"?.
➜ Why do you think speaking of tongues shouldn't involve babbling when the bible says tongues are unintelligible speech according to 1 Corinthians 14:2?
1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: FOR NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. [/b]
➜ On any biblical doctrine you have no knowledge, just keep quiet instead of misleading people. Teachers are to face stringent punishment according to the bible Shay you remember?!

1. Paul's statements were meant instead as suggestions to his fellow Israelites who lived at that time in the land of Judeah, a land that was an enclave of the promised land given to the Israelites by YHWH.

2. Jesus Christ of Israel promised His followers that they would speak in tongues they never learned, suggesting that these tongues would be existing/or at least have existed but were unknown or unlearned by them.

3. Edify wetin?

4. I am glad you said word and not language. Also, repeating the same syllables/ or words over and over does not make a language.

5. Bullsheet! Your religion of Christianity church fathers were non-Israelites, many of them of Roman ancestry, who sought to hijack the movement that was originally started by Jesus Christ of Israel in Jerusalem for Israelites alone. They are the ones who have your head filled with these ludicrous ideas you carry around today. And heresy, well, that was a tactic used by your Christian church fathers to oust and defame those who did not agree with their own set of doctrines and traditions.

6. You have access to a dictionary, right? Xenoglossia refers to speaking a language— a full-blown language complete with the patterns expected of a human language— one that was not previously taught, while Glossolalia is the attempt to foolishly claim one speaks a language by way of repeating syllables — gibberish.

7. Speaking in tongues of the religion of Christianity amounts to the repeating of syllables in an attempt to mimic human language — glossolalia. Hence, the Christian tradition of speaking in tongues is essentially speaking in gibberish.

8. WOW... this Paul wey una dey throw under bus left and right ehn? The man go don roll many times for his grave so.

In the book of Acts, we learn that the original act of speaking in tongues as practiced by the Israelite disciples of Jesus Christ of Israel was the speaking of intelligible human languages that could be understood by other humans. The speaking in tongues ritual practiced by those of the religion of Christianity is absolutely nothing like what the original apostles of Jesus Christ of Israel had. 😂😂

9. See the person wey dey talk! Biblical doctrine? What nonsense is that! 😂😂😂

P.S. Jesus Christ of Israel stated in His Gospels that the doctrines and traditions of men — religion — were an abomination to His Father and those who follow it are not of Him or His Father.

KaLuCh:
➜OK. I'll bite. I'll give you a scripture. If you care to know, read. If you don't, don't.
SPEAKING IN TONGUES DOES NOT MEAN SPEAKING A KNOWN HUMAN LANGUAGE.
➜ What happened in the book of Acts is not how you guys erroneously read it. The apostles spoke in unknown tongues, but God opened the understanding of the people who heard them and they could understand the apostles in their very own language. You can see proof of this from the bible verses below. This still happens today. You can ask questions or bring up objections and let's talk about them.

So, What you are essentially insinuating is that Jesus Christ of Israel, who promised that His followers would speak in languages they did not learn—implying these are languages that are or at least were in existence at some point in time —, lied? 🙄

2. Eyin o niro oshi! Where is the statement in bold included in the passage you quote from the book of Acts? Nonsense and eegridient! 🙄

mirrael68:
Most of the tongues spoken is directed to God and it's for EDIFICATION and not for interpretation. Well all these controversies is because such tongues is for individual prayer closets or to be prayed silently in public.

I don't know if this is true but I share the same view

aribisala0:
You mean they were not saying Olondorobodobonidokudo??

Yeah! According to the Bible. It is just like a man who had been an Igbo all his live suddenly begin to speak Hausa instantly. Not the "Aslakdasubulala" that does not have meaning

olaolaking:
Yeah! According to the Bible. It is just like a man who had been an Igbo all his live suddenly begin to speak Hausa instantly. Not the "Aslakdasubulala" that does not have meaning

Olondorobodobonidokudo

Has meaning though

aribisala0:
Olondorobodobonidokudo

Has meaning though

Any thing can has meaning. It doesn't make it a language

Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This account clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

This was the ONLY time the Bible reveals that men understood the languages being spoken during the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The Bible never mentioned anything like that again at subsequent baptism of the Holy Spirit.

IF you're a Pentecostal you will be the loser for it to wait until someone tells you what another person is speaking in tongues. ONLY GOD CAN GIVE THAT REVELATION IF HE WANTS TO & IT MUST BE A REASON

I strongly believe God revealed the disciples utterances to the men gathered because that was needed at that time of confusion about the nature of Christ and followers - Peter clearly explained the phenomenon to the audience leading to the conviction of 3000 men.


John 4:23-24 KJV
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Romans 8:13-14 KJV
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

[14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS A SUPERNATURAL LANGUAGE EXCLUSIVE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

olaolaking:
Any thing can has meaning. It doesn't make it a language

You are too serious

What is the meaning of Olondorobodobonidokudo

Kobojunkie:
1. Paul's statements were meant instead as suggestions to his fellow Israelites who lived at that time in the land of Judeah, a land that was an enclave of the promised land given to the Israelites by YHWH.

2. Jesus Christ of Israel promised His followers that they would speak in tongues they never learned, suggesting that these tongues would be existing/or at least have existed but were unknown or unlearned by them.

3. Edify wetin?

4. I am glad you said word and not language. Also, repeating the same syllables/ or words over and over does not make a language.

5. Bullsheet! Your religion of Christianity church fathers were non-Israelites, many of them of Roman ancestry, who sought to hijack the movement that was originally started by Jesus Christ of Israel in Jerusalem for Israelites alone. They are the ones who have your head filled with these ludicrous ideas you carry around today. And heresy, well, that was a tactic used by your Christian church fathers to oust and defame those who did not agree with their own set of doctrines and traditions.

6. You have access to a dictionary, right? Xenoglossia refers to speaking a language— a full-blown language complete with the patterns expected of a human language— one that was not previously taught, while Glossolalia is the attempt to foolishly claim one speaks a language by way of repeating syllables — gibberish.

7. Speaking in tongues of the religion of Christianity amounts to the repeating of syllables in an attempt to mimic human language — glossolalia. Hence, the Christian tradition of speaking in tongues is essentially speaking in gibberish.

8. WOW... this Paul wey una dey throw under bus left and right ehn? The man go don roll many times for his grave so.

In the book of Acts, we learn that the original act of speaking in tongues as practiced by the Israelite disciples of Jesus Christ of Israel was the speaking of intelligible human languages that could be understood by other humans. The speaking in tongues ritual practiced by those of the religion of Christianity is absolutely nothing like what the original apostles of Jesus Christ of Israel had. 😂😂

9. See the person wey dey talk! Biblical doctrine? What nonsense is that! 😂😂😂

P.S. Jesus Christ of Israel stated in His Gospels that the doctrines and traditions of men — religion — were an abomination to His Father and those who follow it are not of Him or His Father.

lolz, Paul was a minister to the gentiles not the Jews alone.
2. Jesus never said they'll speak the language that already existed. Your interpretation is baseless and you're attacking strawman.
4. You keep acting like a twvt. You deleted my comments banned me and then attacked statwman. Let me repeat the question, "How do you know the word 'Shabahbahbah' doesn't have meaning in any language or defunct languages on earth, have you studied all the languages on earth"?
5. Lol, the subject matter isn't about ISRAEL and ROME I don't know why you have to always attack strawman when you can't address the point.
6. Thanks for confirming the fact that GLASSOLALIA, Indeed, means speaking in tongues that doesn't make sense to Humans. GLOSSOLALIA IS THE GREEK WORD USED IN BY THE BIBLE AUTHORS FOR SPEAKING OF TONGUES. SO THE BIBLE AUTHORS MEANT THAT BABBLING IS INVOLVED WHEN WE TALK OF TONGUES
7. I'm glad you are not denying the fact that speaking of tongues is gibberish in human sense as against who I quoted who believes every tongue must be existing language.
8. Again, you attack strawman. My point is that BABBLING is taught in the bible and it edifies our spirit as Apostle Paul said.
9. Pele.
10. JESUS CHRIST DIDN'T ESTABLISH RELIGION OR MAN MADE DOCTRINE. HE BUILT HIS CHURCH AND BUILT IT ON SOLID FOUNDATION, THE APOSTLES, THAT THE GATE OF HELL CAN NEVER PREVAIL OVER IT.

Matthew 16:18
[18]And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

aribisala0:
You are too serious

What is the meaning of Olondorobodobonidokudo

It is none of my business. I neither bother nor care. Whatever you do or not do, kokaye

Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This account clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

olaolaking:
In the day of Pentecost, the disciples spoke in tongues. But they spoke known languages. They were speaking different languages that can be interpreted by others who understood those languages. So the languages are not newly manufactured.

Ask your pastor which country or tribe speak that language that he is speaking. Ask if there are other people who can interpret it apart from he himself

I think you are wrong.
From that account in Acts 2:1-13...
The Spirit gave them utterance. The spirit can not give you utterance to speak an earthly language. The people actually spoke shabahbahbah! & it was miraculously interpreted by the Holy Spirit to all the hearers in their own various native languages. Because they were all in one accord or one spirit.

If they actually spoke known earthly languages, they would not have been accused of being drunk with wine in vs13.
The accusation was made because what they spoke sounded like gibberish.

I can ignore someone's short comings but not when that person starts acting like he knows it all. So this man forgot how he rendered families poor by telling them that having some electronics at home was sinful, many people threw away their television, fridge, home theater etc, many were rendered single for life because they were made to believe that must see the man/woman they want to marry in their dream as confirmation that the partner is the right person but today they watch him preach online while many of those who threw away their properties never recover till date.

Toosure70:
Seriously we need to see into this o.

See into What?
Is It Not Biblical- then go and Read Your Bible - Act2 ( When they gathered together) - was a Deep and Intense Prayer Time in the Bible.
Si,that Settles it.
No Controversy about Speaking in Tongues - so if they have not been doing it,may be they should Start,
No Offence!

If you want to teach about speaking in tongue, the right scripture to use is the 1cor 14:2 it says New International Version
For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. The book of Act is a jounalistic book. we cannot build doctrine with the book of Acts.

olaolaking:
In the day of Pentecost, the disciples spoke in tongues. But they spoke known languages. They were speaking different languages that can be interpreted by others who understood those languages. So the languages are not newly manufactured.

Ask your pastor which country or tribe speak that language that he is speaking. Ask if there are other people who can interpret it apart from he himself

Kobojunkieee:
Interesting claim, yet the book of Acts records that on the day of Pentecost, the words that were spoken by the Apostles were heard and understood by the people— gentile Israelites — who were in Jerusalem at the time.

2. Not necessarily the case at all, since when I hear people — I live in a big city with lots of foreigners around— around me speaking, I don't think instinctively think they are speaking gibberish unless what they are saying sounds like gibberish. Instead, I hope they are not cursing at me at least. Speaking gibberish is clearly different from speaking a language.

So what is the essence of speaking in tongue when I want other people to hear me? I can just speak in English or my native language now?

You don’t get it ? Go and read your Bible and stop arguing.

Kobojunkie:
I suggest you focus on your own religion to realize that you are in the same boat as this other religion.

na question na did you include the church if Satan too

Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This account clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

I am not a pastor and I pray, sing and speak in Tongues. Speaking in Tongue isn't lies. It helps you communicate with God in a language you both only understand. I am not saying I can interprete but while growing up as a kid 7-11 years old. There's a C&S church opposite my house which I attend when they have a big celebration so we can chop rice . The Elemi speaks in Tongues and another person interprets.


Let me bring you back to reality. All musical instruments has a node like this do do mi re do etc. No one had been able to write one for talking drums. But the drum speaks. No manual and everyone could hear it speak.


Anyways, the things of the kingdom are mysteries. But personally use my common sense before accepting the mystery. Ire o

[quote author=olaolaking post=135586188]In the day of Pentecost, the disciples spoke in tongues. But they spoke known languages. They were speaking different languages that can be interpreted by others who understood those languages. So the languages are not newly manufactured.

Ask your pastor which country or tribe speak that language that he is speaking. Ask if there are other people who can interpret it apart from he himself
[/quote)



Not true that you speak in tongues must be any other languages even you yourself may not be able to interpret it .

Ezemann:
If you want to teach about speaking in tongue, the right scripture to use is the 1cor 14:2 it says New International Version
For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. The book of Act is a jounalistic book. we cannot build doctrine with the book of Acts.

The go further and make reference to any of the disciples or apostles that did spoke in tongue. The speaking in tongue was an event of Pentecost 33ce. Point to an occasion where the apostles spoke in tongue that is not related to the event of Pentecost 33CE

[quote author=Ezzymadu post=135592035][/quote]Back it up with the scripture

GanagiBitrus:
I think you are wrong.
From that account in Acts 2:1-13...
The Spirit gave them utterance. The spirit can not give you utterance to speak an earthly language. The people actually spoke shabahbahbah! & it was miraculously interpreted by the Holy Spirit to all the hearers in their own various native languages. Because they were all in one accord or one spirit.

If they actually spoke known earthly languages, they would not have been accused of being drunk with wine in vs13.
The accusation was made because what they spoke sounded like gibberish.

Read from verse 5 to 8. They were not speaking unknown languages

jayAjoku:
✓ so those experts know all the languages that have existed for ages and all the complexities involved with those languages? really? do you know how old the earth is and how many civilizations and languages have peaked and gone?

I asked a simple question earlier, which you never responded to. Do experts need to know all human beings that ever existed before they could map what is known as the human genome? This isn't rocket science, but to you religious folks, everything is a test of your faith, so answer the question.

Danisaint112:
WHAT YOUR PASTORS WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT SPEAKING IN TONGUE

Acts 2:1-4 (NIV)
"When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Let's get into more details.

Acts 2:6-11 (NIV)
"When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: 'Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?

Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!'"

This account clearly indicates that the "tongues" spoken on the Day of Pentecost were actual, recognizable human languages, miraculously understood by the foreign-speaking individuals present.

So when you hear your pastor saying shabahbahbah! just know it's lies. 99.9% of the time they are trying to fool you.

If no one around there can understand what they are saying or have ever testified to understand what they are saying, then it's a lie. The are simply faking it.

I'm not a deeper life or Jehovah witness member but I know this. It's just common sense.

All the answers you need is in the Bible, let no man fool you. I come in peace.

The answers are in the Bible but you don't know it.
They were two sets of people in that crowd one who understood them because they heard them spoke in their language and others who did not heard them spoke in earthly languages.

(Acts 2:13) Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
If this set of people heard them spoke in earthly language they wouldn't have said they were drunk.
Have you read 2 Cor 14.
Because I wonder how you guys read your Bible or understand scripture and come up with some crap about tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:2,4-5
[2]For one who speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands or catches his meaning, because in the [Holy] Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things [not obvious to the understanding].
[4]He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself, but he who prophesies [interpreting the divine will and purpose and teaching with inspiration] edifies and improves the church and promotes growth [in Christian wisdom, piety, holiness, and happiness].
[5]Now I wish that you might all speak in [unknown] tongues, but more especially [I want you] to prophesy (to be inspired to preach and interpret the divine will and purpose). He who prophesies [who is inspired to preach and teach] is greater (more useful and more important) than he who speaks in [unknown] tongues, unless he should interpret [what he says], so that the church may be edified and receive good [from it].
1 Corinthians 14:2,4-5,13-14
[2]For one who speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands or catches his meaning, because in the [Holy] Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things [not obvious to the understanding].
[4]He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself, but he who prophesies [interpreting the divine will and purpose and teaching with inspiration] edifies and improves the church and promotes growth [in Christian wisdom, piety, holiness, and happiness].
[5]Now I wish that you might all speak in [unknown] tongues, but more especially [I want you] to prophesy (to be inspired to preach and interpret the divine will and purpose). He who prophesies [who is inspired to preach and teach] is greater (more useful and more important) than he who speaks in [unknown] tongues, unless he should interpret [what he says], so that the church may be edified and receive good [from it].
[13]Therefore, the person who speaks in an [unknown] tongue should pray [for the power] to interpret and explain what he says.
[14]For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me] prays, but my mind is unproductive [it bears no fruit and helps nobody].

1 Corinthians 14:2,4-5,13-14,18
[2]For one who speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not to men but to God, for no one understands or catches his meaning, because in the [Holy] Spirit he utters secret truths and hidden things [not obvious to the understanding].
[4]He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself, but he who prophesies [interpreting the divine will and purpose and teaching with inspiration] edifies and improves the church and promotes growth [in Christian wisdom, piety, holiness, and happiness].
[5]Now I wish that you might all speak in [unknown] tongues, but more especially [I want you] to prophesy (to be inspired to preach and interpret the divine will and purpose). He who prophesies [who is inspired to preach and teach] is greater (more useful and more important) than he who speaks in [unknown] tongues, unless he should interpret [what he says], so that the church may be edified and receive good [from it].
[13]Therefore, the person who speaks in an [unknown] tongue should pray [for the power] to interpret and explain what he says.
[14]For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me] prays, but my mind is unproductive [it bears no fruit and helps nobody].
[18]I thank God that I speak in [strange] tongues (languages) more than any of you or all of you put together;

If tongues are language you understand why will Paul say that. When they are all Jews. Do they have other languages.

mayorall:
✓ I am not a pastor and I pray, sing and speak in Tongues. Speaking in Tongue isn't lies. It helps you communicate with God in a language you both only understand.
@✓ I am not saying I can interprete but while growing up as a kid 7-11 years old. There's a C&S church opposite my house which I attend when they have a big celebration so we can chop rice . The Elemi speaks in Tongues and another person interprets.

Let me bring you back to reality. All musical instruments has a node like this do do mi re do etc. No one had been able to write one for talking drums. But the drum speaks. No manual and everyone could hear it speak.
✓ Anyways, the things of the kingdom are mysteries. But personally use my common sense before accepting the mystery. Ire o

1. Why would anyone need a special language to communicate with this God you refer to? Does he not understand human language? Or is he hard of hearing?

2. But how do you know that whole setup isn't a scam?

3. That sounds like a scam used by those who wish for people to accept gibberish without question, don't you see?

olaolaking:
In the day of Pentecost, the disciples spoke in tongues. But they spoke known languages. They were speaking different languages that can be interpreted by others who understood those languages. So the languages are not newly manufactured.

Ask your pastor which country or tribe speak that language that he is speaking. Ask if there are other people who can interpret it apart from he himself

Go and study 1 Cor 14 and reflect on the scripture whether you will write this things. You only lack the understanding of all that happened in Acts 2.

1 Cor 14:18]I thank God that I speak in [strange] tongues (languages) more than any of you or all of you put together;

If tongues are language you understand why will Paul say that. When they are all Jews. Do they have other languages.
Will it make sense if you are an English man as I am then you will tell me that you speak English more than me. It will sound like you are not okay. I can't speak a tribe more than those who are of the tribe. Paul was not Jewish then them. So when he said I thank my God that I speak in tongues more than you all he was talking about the tongue of the spirit.
The Bible says be not be drunk with wine when it's in excess but be filled with the Holy Ghost.
The question is how do you get filled with the Holy Ghost.
Also read Romans 8:26-28; Jude 1:20

1 Cor 14:2 let us know that when you speak in tongues no one understands you except God. Tongues are not earthly languages but heavenly language.