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AntiChristian:
See great bunkum! Seriously you typed a lot of Holy Spirit dog-shite here! What is this? My best argument is that you are ignrant of Arabic grammer! Even the least of it you don't know!

Is it difficult to understand that the word "Allah" changes when a preposition comes before it?

Okay i think you should learn this simple Arabic Grammar once and for all. Na so Christians dey see Demon where nothing exists!

The Core Concept: Case Endings and Genitive Case
The primary mechanism behind these changes is the system of case endings in Arabic grammar. Arabic nouns have different forms depending on their grammatical function within a sentence. The three main cases are:

1. Nominative Case (الرفع - ar-rafʿ): This is the base form of a noun, typically used for the subject of a sentence. In the examples we've discussed, the original nouns (e.g., Al-Rahman, Al-Kitab) are usually in the nominative case.
2. Accusative Case (النصب - an-nasb): This case is used for the direct object of a verb.
3. Genitive Case (الجر - al-jarr): This case indicates possession, association, or the object of a preposition. This is the case that causes the changes we're observing.

How Prepositions Trigger the Genitive Case
When a noun is preceded by a preposition (like "of," "to," "in," "with," etc.), it automatically shifts into the genitive case. This shift often manifests in a few ways:

Change in Vowel Ending: The most common change is in the final vowel sound of the noun. The nominative case often ends in "-u" (pronounced as "oo", while the genitive case usually ends in "-i" (pronounced as "ee".

Loss of Nunation: Nouns in Arabic can be definite (specific, like "the book" or indefinite (general, like "a book". Indefinite nouns often have a final "-n" sound (called nunation). When a noun is in the genitive case, it often loses this nunation.
Changes to the Definite Article (Al-): The definite article "al-" (الـ), which means "the," might remain unchanged, or it might be assimilated into the following word, depending on the letters.

Examples Revisited:
Let's look at a couple of examples to illustrate these changes:

Original: Al-Kitab (الكتاب) - "The Book" (Nominative)

With Preposition: Kitābullah (كتاب الله) - "The Book of Allah" (Genitive)

Here, the noun Kitab (Book) changes to Kitabullah (Book of Allah) when combined with the name of Allah.
Original: Ar-Rahman (الرحمن) - "The Most Gracious" (Nominative)

With Preposition: Rahmatullah (رحمة الله) - "The mercy of Allah" (Genitive)

Here, the noun Rahman (Gracious) changes to Rahmatullah (Mercy of Allah) when combined with the name of Allah.

Abdullah (عبد الله) - "Servant of Allah"

Explanation: This name is a compound, with "Abd" (servant) in the genitive case because it's "servant of Allah." The "Allah" here is also in the genitive case, showing possession.
Bismillah (بسم الله) - "In the name of Allah"

Explanation: "Bi" (بِـ) is a preposition meaning "in" or "with." "Bismillah" translates to "In the name of Allah." The word "Allah" is in the genitive case because it is the object of the preposition "Bi."
Alhamdulillah (الحمد لله) - "Praise be to Allah"

Explanation: "Al-Hamdu" (الحمد) means "The praise." The preposition "Li" (لِـ) means "to" or "for." "Alhamdulillah" translates to "Praise to Allah." The word "Allah" is in the genitive case because it is the object of the preposition "Li."

Just admit that the Holy spirit failed you this time. Allah is not the same as Lah!

I have never met a group whose scholars LIES as if their life depends on it. Like I said, their many ways to skin a cat.

Let me burst your bubbles
I have gotten you three Arabic names of people that rhymes with Allah such as
Allam (علام)
Allan (ألان)
Aaliyah / Aliyah / Aliya (عالية / علياء)

I will compose three common phrases with these names with phrase like
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
Your duty is to verify that the same rules you use with Al-LAH is used with these three names in
a. Writing (If the prefix AL- is removed)
b. Speaking (If the prefix AL- is silent)


I will first translate these four sentences with AL-LAH and confirm how you both spell and pronounce these phrases.

Permit me to break this into three parts to avoid complications..



Translation of phrases
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"



1. "In the name of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Bismi-llāh
- Phonetics: BIS-meel-LAAH

2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH"
- Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِاللّٰهِ
- Transliteration: A‘ūdhu bi-llāh
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bil-LAAH


3. "Servant of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: ‘Abdu-llāh
-Phonetics: AB-dul-LAAH


4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-llāh
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo lil-LAAH



Just verify that these are correct because I will replace Allah in the next two or three posts with replacements that RHYMES with Al-LAH and then, coach me properly about Arabic.

Please hold on until I post my rebuttals to your Arabic grammars in the next post

TenQ:
I have never met a group whose scholars LIES as if their life depends on it. Like I said, their many ways to skin a cat.

Let me burst your bubbles
I have gotten you three Arabic names of people that rhymes with Allah such as
Allam (علام)
Allan (ألان)
Aaliyah / Aliyah / Aliya (عالية / علياء)

I will compose three common phrases with these names with phrase like
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
Your duty is to verify that the same rules you use with Al-LAH is used with these three names in
a. Writing (If the prefix AL- is removed)
b. Speaking (If the prefix AL- is silent)


I will first translate these four sentences with AL-LAH and confirm how you both spell and pronounce these phrases.

Permit me to break this into three parts to avoid complications..



Translation of phrases
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"



1. "In the name of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Bismi-llāh
- Phonetics: BIS-meel-LAAH

2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH"
- Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِاللّٰهِ
- Transliteration: A‘ūdhu bi-llāh
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bil-LAAH


3. "Servant of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: ‘Abdu-llāh
-Phonetics: AB-dul-LAAH


4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-llāh
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo lil-LAAH



Just verify that these are correct because I will replace Allah in the next two or three posts with replacements that RHYMES with Al-LAH and then, coach me properly about Arabic.

Please hold on until I post my rebuttals to your Arabic grammars in the next two/three posts

Mr AntiChristian,
This is the continuation:
Here , I use Aliyah to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ عَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Bismi ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: BIS-mee ʿAA-lee-yah

2. "I seek refuge in ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِعَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi-ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bee ʿAA-lee-yah

3. "Servant of ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ عَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo ʿAA-lee-yah

4. "Praise be to ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِعَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo lee ʿAA-lee-yah


Here , I use Alam to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of ʿAlām"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ عَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Bismi ʿAlām
-Phonetics: BIS-mee ʿa-LAAM

2. "I seek refuge in ʿAlām"
-Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِعَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi-ʿAlām
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bi ʿa-LAAM

3. "Servant of ʿAlām"
- Arabic: عَبْدُ عَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu ʿAlām
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo ʿa-LAAM

4. "Praise be to ʿAlām"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِعَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-ʿAlām
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo li ʿa-LAAM*

Here , I use Al-an to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of Al-Ān"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ ألان
-Transliteration: Bismi Al-Ān*
-Phonetics: BIS-mee al-AAN*

2. "I seek refuge in Al-Ān"
- Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِألان
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi Al-Ān
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bi al-AAN

3. "Servant of Al-Ān"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ ألان
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu Al-Ān
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo al-AAN

4. "Praise be to Al-Ān"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِألان
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li Al-Ān
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo li al-AAN




Mr Antichristian,
Do you notice that the rules change only when it seems Al-LAH would be "belittled"?





So, and again:
The name of your God is -LAH and the prefix like the Old Semitic languages AL- or IL- or EL- mean Deity or God exactly like
Al-LAH would mean God-LAH
Al-Manat would mean god-Manat
Al-Uzah would mean god-Uzah
Al-Lat would mean god-Lat




If you doubt this, I respectfully ask you to tell me the meaning of the following names.
Ishma-el or Isma-il
Gabri-el or Jubra-il
Isra-el or Isra-il

honesttalk21
TheJustPath
CreativeOrbit

In have asked the questions
1. So, who is the pre-Islamic Deity called LAH?
2. Who is Lah according to Quran 1:1 ?


For those of you who want to hide under Arabic grammar, I have for you some Arabic examples for you to deal with

Let me burst your bubbles
I have gotten you three Arabic names of people that rhymes with Allah such as
Allam (علام)
Allan (ألان)
Aaliyah / Aliyah / Aliya (عالية / علياء)

I will compose three common phrases with these names with phrase like
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
Your duty is to verify that the same rules you use with Al-LAH is used with these three names in
a. Writing (If the prefix AL- is removed)
b. Speaking (If the prefix AL- is silent)


I will first translate these four sentences with AL-LAH and confirm how you both spell and pronounce these phrases.

Permit me to break this into three parts to avoid complications..



Translation of phrases
1. "in the name of Al-LAH"
2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH from the accursed Satan"
3. "servant of Al-LAH "
4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"



1. "In the name of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Bismi-llāh
- Phonetics: BIS-meel-LAAH

2. "I seek refuge in Al-LAH"
- Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِاللّٰهِ
- Transliteration: A‘ūdhu bi-llāh
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bil-LAAH


3. "Servant of Al-LAH"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ اللّٰهِ
-Transliteration: ‘Abdu-llāh
-Phonetics: AB-dul-LAAH


4. "Praise be to Al-LAH"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-llāh
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo lil-LAAH



Just verify that these are correct because I will replace Allah in the next two or three posts with replacements that RHYMES with Al-LAH and then, coach me properly about Arabic.



Here , I use Aliyah to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ عَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Bismi ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: BIS-mee ʿAA-lee-yah

2. "I seek refuge in ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِعَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi-ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bee ʿAA-lee-yah

3. "Servant of ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ عَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo ʿAA-lee-yah

4. "Praise be to ʿĀliyah"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِعَالِيَةِ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-ʿĀliyah
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo lee ʿAA-lee-yah


Here , I use Alam to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of ʿAlām"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ عَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Bismi ʿAlām
-Phonetics: BIS-mee ʿa-LAAM

2. "I seek refuge in ʿAlām"
-Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِعَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi-ʿAlām
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bi ʿa-LAAM

3. "Servant of ʿAlām"
- Arabic: عَبْدُ عَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu ʿAlām
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo ʿa-LAAM

4. "Praise be to ʿAlām"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِعَلَامٍ
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li-ʿAlām
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo li ʿa-LAAM*

Here , I use Al-an to replace Allah with the Arabic transliteration and phonetics:


1. "In the name of Al-Ān"
-Arabic: بِسْمِ ألان
-Transliteration: Bismi Al-Ān*
-Phonetics: BIS-mee al-AAN*

2. "I seek refuge in Al-Ān"
- Arabic: أَعُوذُ بِألان
-Transliteration: Aʿūdhu bi Al-Ān
-Phonetics: ah-OO-dhoo bi al-AAN

3. "Servant of Al-Ān"
-Arabic: عَبْدُ ألان
-Transliteration: ʿAbdu Al-Ān
-Phonetics: ʿAB-doo al-AAN

4. "Praise be to Al-Ān"
-Arabic: اَلْحَمْدُ لِألان
-Transliteration: Al-ḥamdu li Al-Ān
-Phonetics: al-HAM-doo li al-AAN


Do you notice that the rules change only when it seems Al-LAH would be "belittled"?





So, and again:
The name of your God is -LAH and the prefix like the Old Semitic languages AL- or IL- or EL- mean Deity or God exactly like
Al-LAH would mean God-LAH
Al-Manat would mean god-Manat
Al-Uzah would mean god-Uzah
Al-Lat would mean god-Lat




If you doubt this, I respectfully ask you to tell me the meaning of the following names.
Ishma-el or Isma-il
Gabri-el or Jubra-il
Isra-el or Isra-il



So, why is the double standards in grammar?
What are your scholars trying to hide from you?


Allah is definitely LAH!

We still need to ask you sir
*Abdul-LAH (the father of your prophet) instead of Abdul-ALLAH
*Bisimi-LAH (praise be to LAH) instead of Bisimi-ALLAH
*Alhamdu li-LAH (Praise be to LAH) instead of Alhamdu li-ALLAH

Wait tenq are you saying that Arabic scholars changed the meaning of "al"?

You wrote a question and I quote: "So, why is the double standards in grammar?
What are your scholars trying to hide from you?"


While Google AI says Arabic didn't not originate from Aramaic, are using the basis that in old Arabic al meant God but they changed it to mean "the"

Another question then is, what is the old Arabic meaning for lah.. could you share a source and link

gohf:
ya I know Allah isn't a name, I have stated that in a post is "Hubal Allah"? Allah seems to refer to a specific deity, why they take it has his name and reject YHVH even though they claim they serve the same God as Israel, we have seen them flatter a number of times.

As much as words can be gotten from other languages, Aramaic is not the source of Arabic combination that produced Allah, they may have turned Aramaic elaha to ilah in Arabic. Even the Aramaic original text doing use aleph and lamed El or Al to mean the or a definitive article.

It's like oke in igbo and in Yoruba having two different meaning even though they have similar spelling.

I now checked Google to confirm my understanding of Aramaic

No, the definite article "al-" in Arabic is not directly derived from Aramaic, though both languages are Semitic and share some similarities.

Muslims claim that ALLAH is the personal Name of their God.

Is Allah the personal name of the God of the Jews and Christians?

gohf:
Wait tenq are you saying that Arabic scholars changed the meaning of "al"?

You wrote a question and I quote: "So, why is the double standards in grammar?
What are your scholars trying to hide from you?"


While Google AI says Arabic didn't not originate from Aramaic, are using the basis that in old Arabic al meant God but they changed it to mean "the"

Another question then is, what is the old Arabic meaning for lah.. could you share a source and link

I did not say that.

What I have said was that the pre-Islamic name of Allah the God of the Muslims is "LAH" specifically "Deity-LAH" = "Al-LAH".

And I have proved it by using their naming convention Abdul-Lah instead of Abdul-ALLAH, Qur'an 1:1 of the Qur'an Bisimi-LAH instead of Bisimi-ALLAH , and supported it with Personal Nouns that Rhymes perfectly with Allah to check the grammatical rule.

Of course, language changes and morphs with time. But my argument is that

1. Muslim claim that Islam is the Religion of Adam, Abraham, Lot, Ismael, Israel etc.
Then, we should be able to Logically and Linguistically trace Allah's name beyond the time of Mohammed.
2. Modern Arabic has EL-, AL- and IL- equivalent in English "the". El- in Hebrew is either a noun eg Deity/God or A preposition "to".
Ha (Hebrew) is equivalent to Al- (Arabic)



Yes, modern islamic treat the name of their God ALLAH as one word BUT they seem not to know exactly what it means!
BUT
Once they try to treat Allah as two words AL- and Lah, it betrays the fact that the true name of their God is LAH!


Here is the problem!

It's most disheartening and disappointing that you rely on very little knowledge to generalize and extremely wrongly. Is it part of your mischief? Please go back to study correctly.

While Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic are all part of the Semitic language family and trace their roots back to a common ancestor known as Proto-Semitic, they have each developed into unique, independent languages.

This evolution is the result of various factors, including geography, historical events, sociopolitical changes, and linguistic shifts.

Around 4,000 to 5,000 years ago, Proto-Semitics began to branch out into different regional dialects.

All three languages—Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic—fall under the Central Semitic category, but they took distinct paths after their divergence.

Due to their physical separation, each language group evolved independently, influenced by different neighboring cultures (like Akkadian in Mesopotamia, Egyptian in Canaan, and Ethiopian/South Arabian in Arabia).

As a result, each language developed its own unique religious, literary, and political roles.

Despite sharing some roots and structures (such as triliteral roots), they have each evolved over the centuries:

- Arabic boasts a complex system of derived verb forms.

- Aramaic has developed participle-based verb tenses.


- Biblical Hebrew features its own unique tense-aspect system (perfect/imperfect).

When it comes to verb systems:

- Arabic has that rich array of derived verb forms.

- Aramaic focuses on participle-based verb tenses.

- Biblical Hebrew stands out with its unique tense-aspect system (perfect/imperfect).

After more than 2,000 years of divergence, modern speakers of Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic find it challenging to understand one another without some study, even though they share cognates.

For example:

- Arabic: “kitāb” (book)
- Hebrew: “sefer”
- Aramaic: “safra”

Do you not see Arabic word for book distinctly different from Hebrew and Aramaic?

These languages are like siblings who grew up in different homes—sharing the same DNA (grammar, roots) but shaped by their own unique environments, cultures, and histories. That’s why, despite being part of the same family, they have evolved independently.

So take your weak generalisation to the dump where it belongs.

Your argument is plainly feeble!

The fact that Aramaic influences Hebrew and Arabic does not mean that they must be a word for word equivalence in words.
Just like, Latin, German Arabic influences English language but it doesn't mean that they must be the same.

So, just as German "Gott" influenced English "God" we have to see how those who influenced Arabic like the Aramaic EL-, AL- and IL- is used.

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

TenQ:
Your argument is plainly feeble!

The fact that Aramaic influences Hebrew and Arabic does not mean that they must be a word for word equivalence in words.
Just like, Latin, German Arabic influences English language but it doesn't mean that they must be the same.

So, just as German "Gott" influenced English "God" we have to see how those who influenced Arabic like the Aramaic EL-, AL- and IL- is used.

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

Regardless of your inferences the term "Lah" (لاه) doesn't really have a place in classical Arabic as a standalone noun or verb that conveys any divine meanings.

Its absence from the Qur'an, Hadith, and classical poetry highlights that it isn't recognized in theological discussions or the literary traditions of the Arabic language.

This lack of mention suggests that any claims about its importance are likely unfounded.

So to maintain linguistic accuracy and respect for sacred texts, it's essential to stick with established terminology that reflects the rich heritage of Arabic scholarship.

honesttalk21:
Regardless of your inferences the term "Lah" (لاه) doesn't really have a place in classical Arabic as a standalone noun or verb that conveys any divine meanings.

Its absence from the Qur'an, Hadith, and classical poetry highlights that it isn't recognized in theological discussions or the literary traditions of the Arabic language.

This lack of mention suggests that any claims about its importance are likely unfounded.

So to maintain linguistic accuracy and respect for sacred texts, it's essential to stick with established terminology that reflects the rich heritage of Arabic scholarship.

I noticed a trend with you.
You avoid posts that require theological debates for simpler ones

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

TenQ:
I noticed a trend with you.
You avoid posts that require theological debates for simpler ones

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

The basic thing you don't see is Allah is entirely different from Ilah or however you spell it. Not just in form alone, but in essence.

However similar these words may sound it is not beyond that in actuality.

honesttalk21:
The basic thing you don't see is Allah is entirely different from Ilah or however you spell it. Not just in form alone, but in essence.

However similar these words may sound it is not beyond that in actuality.

This was not the question

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

TenQ:
This was not the question

Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

You start on a wrong note. Allah and Illah aren't related so your statement is all rubbish.

NairaLTQ:
Satan is one of the fallen Angels: a leader amongst them.
Demons are children of fallen angels, they must do the work of their parents shouldn't they?

Fallen Angels are the rebellious heavenly beings. Nephilim are the children of those beings and human women.

Now that you answer one of your previous questions. Did the fallen angels take the form of man to propagate with the daughters of man?

The fallen angel demons beget nephillim demons.

honesttalk21:
You start on a wrong note. Allah and Illah aren't related so your statement is all rubbish.

so you are saying Allah is not illah, correct?

honesttalk21:
You start on a wrong note. Allah and Illah aren't related so your statement is all rubbish.

Allah mean God in Arabic!

What does Illah mean in Arabic?

Again:
Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

honesttalk21:
Fallen Angels are the rebellious heavenly beings. Nephilim are the children of those beings and human women.

Now that you answer one of your previous questions. Did the fallen angels take the form of man to propagate with the daughters of man?

The fallen angel demons beget nephillim demons.

Did the fallen angels take the form of man to propagate with the daughters of man?
Just as Jibril came to Mary as a perfect man!

Most likely!
Gen 6:2:
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

TenQ:
Allah mean God in Arabic!

What does Illah mean in Arabic?

Again:
Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

Spare the pointless back and forth. And say what they mean in Arabic. You aren't as confident of your Arabic language proficient expertise now?


Did you not argue that angels cannot take another form?

TenQ:
Your lack of understanding is huge my dear
Let me point out your basic errors first.
1. Demons are NOT the same as Jinns
2. Demons are not fallen Angels
3.Demons cannot take up physical forms

Yada yada yada, forgetful Jones Tenq forgot what he said

honesttalk21:
Spare the pointless back and forth. And say what they mean in Arabic. You aren't as confident of your Arabic language proficient expertise now?


Did you not argue that angels cannot take another form?



Yada yada yada, forgetful Jones Tenq forgot what he said

what does ilyas mean? Please tell us. He is a prophet of God.

honesttalk21:
Spare the pointless back and forth. And say what they mean in Arabic. You aren't as confident of your Arabic language proficient expertise now?

Allah mean God in Arabic!

What does Illah mean in Arabic?

Again:
Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

honesttalk21:
Did you not argue that angels cannot take another form?
Yada yada yada, forgetful Jones Tenq forgot what he said

Can you quote wherever I said ANGELS cannot take up physical forms?

To you, Angels are Demons!?
I shake my head.

I said :
3.Demons cannot take up physical forms

In the bible, only Angels can take up physical forms but a blind bat will read otherwise!


So you know any instance where demons took up a physical shape in the bible?

TenQ:
Allah mean God in Arabic!

What does Illah mean in Arabic?

Again:
Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?

Perhaps you should first clarify if it's إلا or إِلَه you are referring to

TenQ:
Can you quote wherever I said ANGELS cannot take up physical forms?

To you, Angels are Demons!?
I shake my head.

I said :
3.Demons cannot take up physical forms

In the bible, only Angels can take up physical forms but a blind bat will read otherwise!


So you know any instance where demons took up a physical shape in the bible?

To put all your expose in perspective please tell if demons exist and where they originate from.

We will take it from there.

honesttalk21:
Perhaps you should first clarify if it's إلا or إِلَه you are referring to




To put all your expose in perspective please tell if demons exist and where they originate from.

We will take it from there.

Is it untrue that Allah mean God in Arabic?
Do you deny the relationship between Allah/Illah (Arabic) , El-oah (Hebrew) and Elah (Aramaic) ?


And I have answered your questions
Demons exist
Demons originate from the spirits of nephilims

TenQ:
And I have answered your questions
Demons exist
Demons originate from the spirits of nephilims

Your claim that nephillim are born of fallen angels is very faulty. This is because Matthew 22:30 states that at the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

The question remains how the fallen angels took mortal women as wives to bare children.

Happy Sunday know the truth and the truth, Jesus shall set you free.