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Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by APOPTOSIS: 4:54pm On Jun 01, 2025
immortalcrown:
No!

Someone cannot be a graduate student without education.

Let's break it down. Being a moralist is different from being a child of God. You can be a moralist without being guided by religion. But to be a Child of God, you have to know God's principles through religious activities. Below are some of the clear differences.

A moralist will not condemn sex before marriage as long as the sex is consensual and involves only adults, especially if the parties have agreed to marry each other. A child of God will avoid premarital sex even with his fiancée or her fiance, he or she will wait until marriage.

A moralist will do good to fellow humans while lacking the concept of praying to and praising God. A child of God does good to humans and dedicates time to praises and prayers. And this is where worshiping in a congregation is compulsory.

A moralist will support execution of criminals, a child of God will not.

A moralist will want gay people to be killed or excommunicated. A child of God will condemn the act of gay but will not harm gay people, he or she will keep hoping for gay people to repent.

A moralist will support divorce if the marriage is not peaceful. A child of God will not support divorce but will advise for living apart. Living apart is different from divorce.

A moralist will revenge if repeatedly offended, a child of God will keep forgiving.
1st: If God is a Christian, how come Christianity started barely some years ago while God has been in existence for eternity?
2nd: Are you still saying Christianity is older than God?

3rd: How can a Religion be higher or older than the God it was created to subserve?
4th: I believe God should be supreme and every other thing should lie beneath God, explain..

5th: If going to Church qualifies one to be a "Child of God", then such disqualifies Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Joseph, David and many more too because they were never Christians.
6th: Christianity is a product of Jesus followership and not Almighty God!

7th: Did you know you are a Christian today simply because your parents or grandparents were Christians (or possibly by conversion) and if you were born into a Muslim family you would have likely end up a Muslim too and would that disqualify from being a child a God?

8th: Are you saying kids born to the Hindu, traditional worshippers and other religions don't belong to God almighty?

9th: If according to my Bible, GOD doesn't dwell in churches built by Humans, of what relevance is the question in the first place?

Please explain all these in a respectful manner.
Mind you I'm a Christian too and want to be educated more. Thanks.
I will be delighted to get answers constructively and with sources ( references).
I expect your sources to come from God too and not books written by humans.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by joshkke(m): 5:01pm On Jun 01, 2025
Emphasis should be on fellowship with other Christian brethren, not church as we know it. If a family fellowships on their own regularly, they are a church in the biblical sense. Just don't be a lone ranger. Get a prayer partner.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Thankgod89: 5:02pm On Jun 01, 2025
achorladey:
Baba abandon this your legalism kind of thinking.


Jesus said when two or three are gathered in my name is not a commandment. It is just a statement of fact of what will happen to his followers.


Paul stated..... Do not forsake the gathering. This is not a commandment too. It is just an advise. Nowhere in those account made it a law or commandment to must attend a church.

Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them

Jesus replied, “All who love me will do what I say. My Father will love them, and we will come and make our home with each of them.

Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
This isn't about legalism—let me explain what might be misunderstood:


1. “Where two or three gather” — is more than a casual statement

It reveals the DNA of Christian life: we were meant to gather, not scatter.

Jesus wasn’t prescribing a law, true.
But He was describing the normal, spiritual reality of His followers:
They will come together, and He will be among them.
Christianity was never meant to be private-only.

2. “Do not forsake the gathering” — isn’t just advice

Hebrews 10:25 is written in the context of people drifting away from faith under pressure.

It says:

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some…”
It continues:
“For if we sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth…” (v.26)

The warning is clear: isolation weakens the believer.
So while it may not sound like a “thou shalt” command, it's a serious exhortation tied to spiritual survival.

3. The early church gathered — not by law, but by love

No one forced them into meetings.
They gathered because they loved Christ and each other.

“They continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship...” (Acts 2:42)

It was a natural expression of a supernatural life.

4. Fellowship is more than physical—it’s relational and spiritual

You don’t have to go to a cathedral, or attend a denomination.
But if you say you love Christ and consistently avoid His people, something’s off.

How can you love the Head (Christ) and want nothing to do with His Body (the Church)?


Jesus saves us individually,
But He calls us to walk together—as one body, one Spirit, one faith.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Thankgod89: 5:06pm On Jun 01, 2025
achorladey:
Not restricted to going to building at certain date time, day and place right?
If I consistently avoid any form of gathering—whether in a house, under a tree, online, or in a room with two or three believers—then it's not about buildings anymore.
It becomes a question of whether I truly value the Body of Christ.

The early church met in homes, public spaces, temples, wherever they could—but they met.
They didn’t restrict God to a place—but they didn’t isolate either.

It’s not about being in a building; it’s about being in fellowship—intentionally, consistently, and humbly.


That’s the heart of it.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by immortalcrown(m): 5:14pm On Jun 01, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
1st: If God is a Christian, how come Christianity started barely some years ago while God has been in existence for eternity?
2nd: Are you still saying Christianity is older than God?

3rd: How can a Religion be higher or older than the God it was created to subserve?
4th: I believe God should be supreme and every other thing should lie beneath God, explain..

5th: If going to Church qualifies one to be a "Child of God", then such disqualifies Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Joseph, David and many more too because they were never Christians.
6th: Christianity is a product of Jesus followership and not Almighty God!

7th: Did you know you are a Christian today simply because your parents or grandparents were Christians (or possibly by conversion) and if you were born into a Muslim family you would have likely end up a Muslim too and would that disqualify from being a child a God?

8th: Are you saying kids born to the Hindu, traditional worshippers and other religions don't belong to God almighty?

9th: If according to my Bible, GOD doesn't dwell in churches built by Humans, of what relevance is the question in the first place?

Please explain all these in a respectful manner.
Mind you I'm a Christian too and want to be educated more. Thanks.
I will be delighted to get answers constructively and with sources ( references).
I expect your sources to come from God too and not books written by humans.
1.
Did "Christian" and "Church" appear in my comment? Please, answer this question before we proceed.

2.
The post and its caption were edited after I had made my comment. Before I made my comment, "Religious Affiliation" was in place of Church. This is why I avoid words like "Christian" and "Church" in my comment.

Nairaland needs "Edit History" feature.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 5:22pm On Jun 01, 2025
Thankgod89:
If I consistently avoid any form of gathering—whether in a house, under a tree, online, or in a room with two or three believers—then it's not about buildings anymore.
It becomes a question of whether I truly value the Body of Christ.

The early church met in homes, public spaces, temples, wherever they could—but they met.
They didn’t restrict God to a place—but they didn’t isolate either.

It’s not about being in a building; it’s about being in fellowship—intentionally, consistently, and humbly.


That’s the heart of it.
The bold is enough.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 5:24pm On Jun 01, 2025
Thankgod89:
This isn't about legalism—let me explain what might be misunderstood:


1. “Where two or three gather” — is more than a casual statement

It reveals the DNA of Christian life: we were meant to gather, not scatter.

Jesus wasn’t prescribing a law, true.
But He was describing the normal, spiritual reality of His followers:
They will come together, and He will be among them.
Christianity was never meant to be private-only.

2. “Do not forsake the gathering” — isn’t just advice

Hebrews 10:25 is written in the context of people drifting away from faith under pressure.

It says:

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some…”
It continues:
“For if we sin willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth…” (v.26)

The warning is clear: isolation weakens the believer.
So while it may not sound like a “thou shalt” command, it's a serious exhortation tied to spiritual survival.

3. The early church gathered — not by law, but by love

No one forced them into meetings.
They gathered because they loved Christ and each other.

“They continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship...” (Acts 2:42)

It was a natural expression of a supernatural life.

4. Fellowship is more than physical—it’s relational and spiritual

You don’t have to go to a cathedral, or attend a denomination.
But if you say you love Christ and consistently avoid His people, something’s off.

How can you love the Head (Christ) and want nothing to do with His Body (the Church)?


Jesus saves us individually,
But He calls us to walk together—as one body, one Spirit, one faith.
Now you are talking.

Does fellowship includes how you work and encourage the people around you at your place of work?
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 5:28pm On Jun 01, 2025
joshkke:
Emphasis should be on fellowship with other Christian brethren, not church as we know it. If a family fellowships on their own regularly, they are a church in the biblical sense. Just don't be a lone ranger. Get a prayer partner.
Is anything wrong being a lone ranger?
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:56pm On Jun 01, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
1st: If God is a Christian, how come Christianity started barely some years ago while God has been in existence for eternity?
2nd: Are you still saying Christianity is older than God?

3rd: How can a Religion be higher or older than the God it was created to subserve?
4th: I believe God should be supreme and every other thing should lie beneath God, explain..

5th: If going to Church qualifies one to be a "Child of God", then such disqualifies Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Joseph, David and many more too because they were never Christians.
6th: Christianity is a product of Jesus followership and not Almighty God!

7th: Did you know you are a Christian today simply because your parents or grandparents were Christians (or possibly by conversion) and if you were born into a Muslim family you would have likely ended up a Muslim too and would that have disqualified you from being a child a God?

8th: Are you saying kids born to the Hindu, traditional worshippers and other religions don't belong to God almighty?

9th: If according to my Bible, GOD doesn't dwell in churches built by Humans, of what relevance is the question in the first place?

Please explain all these in a respectful manner.
Mind you I'm a Christian too and want to be educated more. Thanks.
I will be delighted to get answers constructively and with sources ( references).
I expect your sources to come from God too and not books written by humans.
What do you think about this?:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by johnog4sure: 6:08pm On Jun 01, 2025
immortalcrown:
No!

Someone cannot be a graduate student without education.

Let's break it down. Being a moralist is different from being a child of God. You can be a moralist without being guided by religion. But to be a Child of God, you have to know God's principles through religious activities. Below are some of the clear differences.

A moralist will not condemn sex before marriage as long as the sex is consensual and involves only adults, especially if the parties have agreed to marry each other. A child of God will avoid premarital sex even with his fiancée or her fiance, he or she will wait until marriage.

A moralist will do good to fellow humans while lacking the concept of praying to and praising God. A child of God does good to humans and dedicates time to praises and prayers. And this is where worshiping in a congregation is compulsory.

A moralist will support execution of criminals, a child of God will not.

A moralist will want gay people to be killed or excommunicated. A child of God will condemn the act of gay but will not harm gay people, he or she will keep hoping for gay people to repent.

A moralist will support divorce if the marriage is not peaceful. A child of God will not support divorce but will advise for living apart. Living apart is different from divorce.

A moralist will revenge if repeatedly offended, a child of God will keep forgiving.
If I put mouth for this matter d arguement no go finish, I used to be religious but now I am Irreligious. If religion works for you pls keep it but you are ignorant to judge others from your narrow mindset. Even the God religious people are claiming they don't know him.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Tradepunter2: 6:42pm On Jun 01, 2025
immortalcrown:
No!

Someone cannot be a graduate student without education.

Let's break it down. Being a moralist is different from being a child of God. You can be a moralist without being guided by religion. But to be a Child of God, you have to know God's principles through religious activities. Below are some of the clear differences.

A moralist will not condemn sex before marriage as long as the sex is consensual and involves only adults, especially if the parties have agreed to marry each other. A child of God will avoid premarital sex even with his fiancée or her fiance, he or she will wait until marriage.

A moralist will do good to fellow humans while lacking the concept of praying to and praising God. A child of God does good to humans and dedicates time to praises and prayers. And this is where worshiping in a congregation is compulsory.

A moralist will support execution of criminals, a child of God will not.

A moralist will want gay people to be killed or excommunicated. A child of God will condemn the act of gay but will not harm gay people, he or she will keep hoping for gay people to repent.

A moralist will support divorce if the marriage is not peaceful. A child of God will not support divorce but will advise for living apart. Living apart is different from divorce.

A moralist will revenge if repeatedly offended, a child of God will keep forgiving.
You are wrong.... A man who engages the word night and day will be transformed... And will thirst for more... If am in the state of revelation while engaging God's word, why would I want to leave that and go to house to listen to someone who's revelation might not be up to what I am receiving?? Mental laziness is what drives many Christians today... They only look up meetings in church and get encapsulated in doctrines dressed up as revelations
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Thankgod89: 6:44pm On Jun 01, 2025
achorladey:
Now you are talking.

Does fellowship includes how you work and encourage the people around you at your place of work?
Fellowship in the biblical sense isn't limited to singing songs or attending Bible studies. It includes how you live out your faith with others in everyday life—especially in how you:

1. Encourage others toward what is good and right,
2. Support people in their challenges,
3. Speak truth with love and integrity,
3. Demonstrate Christ through your attitude, work ethic, and compassion.

Colossians 3:23 — “Whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men.”

Hebrews 10:24 — “Let us consider how to stir one another up to love and good works.”

So yes, how you work and interact with people at your workplace, when done as unto Christ is part of your spiritual witness and can even be genuine fellowship when it flows from your walk with God and touches others.

However, it’s important to note:
That kind of interaction complements Christian fellowship—it doesn’t replace intentional connection with other believers.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:23pm On Jun 01, 2025
Thankgod89:
Fellowship in the biblical sense isn't limited to singing songs or attending Bible studies. It includes how you live out your faith with others in everyday life—especially in how you:
1. Encourage others toward what is good and right,
2. Support people in their challenges,
3. Speak truth with love and integrity,
3. Demonstrate Christ through your attitude, work ethic, and compassion.
Colossians 3:23 — “Whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men.”
Hebrews 10:24 — “Let us consider how to stir one another up to love and good works.”
So yes, how you work and interact with people at your workplace, when done as unto Christ is part of your spiritual witness and can even be genuine fellowship when it flows from your walk with God and touches others.
However, it’s important to note:
That kind of interaction complements Christian fellowship—it doesn’t replace intentional connection with other believers.
I must tell you this even though you may find it difficult to understand for now!

You have the heart of Christ's sheep but there is an ongoing problem in the world today:

The love most people have for pure worship has grown cold due to increase of lawlessness in religious centers. Matthew 24:12

What you are saying shows you belong to Jesus' flock of sheep who are ever ready to endure no matter what happens {Matthew 24:13} there is a global spiritual family where Jesus' sheep are gathered in this time it's where we worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} you can't find this mindset elsewhere except among Jehovah's Witnesses.

That's why most people keeps speaking against this organization because they wonder why all others are so ashamed of mentioning the name of their place of worship but Jehovah's Witnesses are ever proud to declare their stand for pure worship in the congregation of the true God.

Don't be surprised that most of those arguing with you want to worship with their fellow believers but they are tired of all the atrocities committed by their pastors all in the name of prosperity! smiley
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Allthingswork: 8:29pm On Jun 01, 2025
The answer is YES. .

I'm a living example. I'm still a child of God.

I don't like any church that uses deception to take advantage of churchgoers, due to their ignorance or gullibility.

You are the church. Your body is the temple.
Gathering of the brethren is not necessarily in a church building on a sunny Sunday. It can be under a tree. By the road (remove shame and evangelize to christians you come in contact with ). In a football field where those who share the same Christan faith with you are. Do it politely and apply wisdom, which the Holy Spirit will assist you with.
Home fellowshipping. So-called home cells. These are all gatherings of believers and DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BANNER OR NAME OF ANY DENOMINATION AND REGISTERED IDENTITY.

Satan has really sewn confusion into the loins of the endtime body of Christ. But, it shall not overly prevail over it. I don't know why Nigeria's case is looking different. Hardship, perhaps?
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:36pm On Jun 01, 2025
Allthingswork:
The answer is YES. .

I'm a living example. I'm still a child of God.

I don't like any church that uses deception to take advantage of churchgoers, due to their ignorance or gullibility.

You are the church. Your body is the temple.
Gathering of the brethren is not necessarily in a church building on a sunny Sunday. It can be under a tree. By the road (remove shame and evangelize to christians you come in contact with ). In a football field where those who share the same Christan faith with you are. Do it politely and apply wisdom, which the Holy Spirit will assist you with.
Home fellowshipping. So-called home cells. These are all gatherings of believers and DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BANNER OR NAME OF ANY DENOMINATION AND REGISTERED IDENTITY.

Satan has really sewn confusion into the loins of the endtime body of Christ. But, it shall not overly prevail over it. I don't know why Nigeria's case is looking different. Hardship, perhaps?
Jesus COMMANDED his disciples saying:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit. Matthew 28:19

And according to the ACT OF APOSTLES Christians kept records of those they converted and baptized in the first century! Act 2:41

Please how many new converts have your random gathering gotten baptized this year?
How have you been TEACHING them all the things Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 28:20
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Allthingswork: 8:49pm On Jun 01, 2025
The staunch Jehovah's Witnesses guy above my comment won't understand spiritual moves. Needless of me to waste my time with digging deep. Reason why I don't feel like even quoting him. Someone else should. ✌️

Lol. These people still don't understand what the action on the Cross means for us. Its liberation power. JW is interesting. SMH
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:58pm On Jun 01, 2025
Allthingswork:
The staunch Jehovah's Witnesses guy above my comment won't understand spiritual moves. Needless of me to waste my time with digging deep. Reason why I don't feel like even quoting him. Someone else should. ✌️
Lol. These people still don't understand what the action on the Cross means for us. Its liberation power.
JW is interesting. SMH
Thanks for dodging the questions.

I just want interested ones to know that it's impossible for anyone to be one with Christ without assembling with the church of Christ. John 17:22

FAITH must be accompanied with WORKS {James 2:18-26} and the work is that assignment Jesus gave his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

May you have peace!
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Thankgod89: 10:21pm On Jun 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I must tell you this even though you may find it difficult to understand for now!

You have the heart of Christ's sheep but there is an ongoing problem in the world today:

The love most people have for pure worship has grown cold due to increase of lawlessness in religious centers. Matthew 24:12

What you are saying shows you belong to Jesus' flock of sheep who are ever ready to endure no matter what happens {Matthew 24:13} there is a global spiritual family where Jesus' sheep are gathered in this time it's where we worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} you can't find this mindset elsewhere except among Jehovah's Witnesses.

That's why most people keeps speaking against this organization because they wonder why all others are so ashamed of mentioning the name of their place of worship but Jehovah's Witnesses are ever proud to declare their stand for pure worship in the congregation of the true God.

Don't be surprised that most of those arguing with you want to worship with their fellow believers but they are tired of all the atrocities committed by their pastors all in the name of prosperity! smiley
Baba thank you for your heartfelt words. Truly, you speak with the tone of someone who desires what is pure, spiritual, and pleasing to God—and that's deeply admirable.

May we all be among those who hear His voice—and follow wherever He leads.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 10:45pm On Jun 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
What do you think about this?:
Looooool that must be the answer to his questions grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Ken4Christ: 10:46pm On Jun 01, 2025
ErebeOcoco:
The growing trend common in people these days is, I don't go to church but I am a spiritual person. Some would say I do good and I love God but I don't belong to any church.

Is it possible to love God, do good and not be affiliated to any denomination?

Religious experts, can a man claim to be a child of God without devotion?
No. If you are a child of God, you are instructed to attend church services regularly. You must therfore belong to a local assembly- Hebrews 10:25.

Violation will attract God's judgement and amounts to losing your salvation - Hebrews 10:26-31.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by Ken4Christ: 10:47pm On Jun 01, 2025
PeterJamesJohn:
It's not good but sometimes there's no choice. As long as you have a vibrant personal relationship with God, it's better to be church less than go to the wrong church. The wrong church can kill you spiritually.

Now for someone that's not serious with God, any church will be better than no church. Because that will make God be in your consciousness. Even if you're getting the wrong knowledge about God, you'll still be thinking about God. It's better than people who don't acknowledge God in their daily lives.
Your counsel is based on Scripture
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 10:47pm On Jun 01, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus COMMANDED his disciples saying:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit. Matthew 28:19

And according to the ACT OF APOSTLES Christians kept records of those they converted and baptized in the first century! Act 2:41

Please how many new converts have your random gathering gotten baptized this year?
How have you been TEACHING them all the things Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 28:20
Handicapped kind of reasoning grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 10:49pm On Jun 01, 2025
Allthingswork:
The staunch Jehovah's Witnesses guy above my comment won't understand spiritual moves. Needless of me to waste my time with digging deep. Reason why I don't feel like even quoting him. Someone else should. ✌️

Lol. These people still don't understand what the action on the Cross means for us. Its liberation power. JW is interesting. SMH
That one must do marketing here cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 10:53pm On Jun 01, 2025
Thankgod89:
Fellowship in the biblical sense isn't limited to singing songs or attending Bible studies. It includes how you live out your faith with others in everyday life—especially in how you:

1. Encourage others toward what is good and right,
2. Support people in their challenges,
3. Speak truth with love and integrity,
3. Demonstrate Christ through your attitude, work ethic, and compassion.

Colossians 3:23 — “Whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men.”

Hebrews 10:24 — “Let us consider how to stir one another up to love and good works.”

So yes, how you work and interact with people at your workplace, when done as unto Christ is part of your spiritual witness and can even be genuine fellowship when it flows from your walk with God and touches others.

However, it’s important to note:
That kind of interaction complements Christian fellowship—it doesn’t replace intentional connection with other believers.
Good you have the picture clear now through the questions I asked. So when people don't subscribe to being a member of a religious organization and attend to church as it applies to being at a building on set day, time it does not in anyway say they are not child of God. Service to God goes far beyond that.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:22pm On Jun 01, 2025
Thankgod89:
Baba thank you for your heartfelt words. Truly, you speak with the tone of someone who desires what is pure, spiritual, and pleasing to God—and that's deeply admirable.
May we all be among those who hear His voice—and follow wherever He leads.
It's OK, Thank you! smiley
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by DLifeless1: 4:41am On Jun 02, 2025
Thankgod89:
You can encounter God in your bedroom.
But if your private devotion makes you reject the public family,
You might be protecting your comfort, not your convictions.

Jesus didn’t die to make us independent temples—He died to make us one body, knit together in love, growing in truth, and serving one another in humility.
You see, he didn't die to make us independent right?
The counselor he promised to send me on the ascension day, who will reveal the truth, which will set us free, my freedom comes from that truth and the conviction that all churches and denominations man made adulterated, selfish and greed inflicted chambers,
I want to ask you in all honesty, between redeem, catholic, Anglican, cherubim and choosen, which one is your own conviction is telling you is right with their mode of spirituality?

We are still on that conviction arising from the Holy spirit Jesus Christ sent. Except you are saying I should silence the conviction and do as others are doing?
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by DLifeless1: 4:45am On Jun 02, 2025
achorladey:
Problem question. This is the very thing the apostles warn cheesy grin cheesy grin
You know when these religious people speak their English to confuse me, especially me, they forget so many things.

Jesus sent Holy spirit that will teach me the truth that will set me free, one man that has no single quality of Christ will want me to believe that his own version of the truth is more truter than mine.

I am still waiting, between lords chosen, assemblies of God, catholic and Anglican which one is saying the truth?
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18am On Jun 02, 2025
DLifeless1:
I am still waiting, between lords chosen, assemblies of God, catholic and Anglican which one is saying the truth?
Which of them is making people brothers breaking the barriers of racism and nationalism?

Peter asked Jesus:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus answered:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life". Mark 10:29-30

Note that everlasting life will comes after they have formed a global family through preaching and teaching of God's Kingdom this is what Isaiah and Micah prophesied! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So which of all these groups claiming Christians have successfully achieved what Jesus foretold breaking the barriers of racism and nationalism so that an individual in Russia feels closely related to his neighbor in Ukraine ready to disobey any order from anyone saying he should raise weapons against his neighbor?

Do you think any of the religions you mentioned have succeeded in making their members international brothers whose love for one another can't be broken? John 13:34-35 smiley
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by achorladey: 6:26am On Jun 02, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Which of them is making people brothers breaking the barriers of racism and nationalism?

Peter asked Jesus:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus answered:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life". Mark 10:29-30

Note that everlasting life will comes after they have formed a global family through preaching and teaching of God's Kingdom this is what Isaiah and Micah prophesied! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So which of all these groups claiming Christians have successfully achieved what Jesus foretold breaking the barriers of racism and nationalism so that an individual in Russia feels closely related to his neighbor in Ukraine ready to disobey any order from anyone saying he should raise weapons against his neighbor?

Do you think any of the religions you mentioned have succeeded in making their members international brothers whose love for one another can't be broken? John 13:34-35 smiley
Jehovah's witnesses are brothers to Redeem, Christ Apostolic, Catholics and the rest grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy


He did not ask you who is making brothers to the world, the question is which one is saying the truth grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

You can add your religious denomination to the list too.
Re: Can A Man Be A Child Of God Without A Church? by MaxInDHouse(m):
achorladey:
Jehovah's witnesses are brothers to Redeem, Christ Apostolic, Catholics
Says you!
Everyone knows that JW organization is no part of them! John 17:14cheesy
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