₦airaland Forum

1Sharon:
Him being Ugandan changes nothing. Most of you share his sentiment.

Because we're not overly sensitive? That was a dark humor

Kobojunkie:
Abeg, Get lost! 🙄🙄🙄

Who gave this one his certificate and made him a doctor abeg! All these quarks calling themselves doctors and experts.

why are you pained?

bitbillionaire:
In today's world where most men are unreliable, unstable and struggling to survive it makes sense to me if a lady insists on being financially stable before having kids as long as she has not seen a wealthy, financially stable suitor yet. But once she has suitor who is already wealthy it no longer makes sense to me for her to insist on being financially stable before having kids.

Who says you can't pursue your dreams after having kids or even while being pregnant?

Even guys who are financially stable don't want women who don't have nothing doing or come from very poor backgrounds.

Seems you don't how irritably classist Nigerian women can be, people wey fit look you head to toe, cap you say i don't talk to guys who use android or i can't talk to you if you don't have this and that meanwhile, her papa no guide or even she and her brothers no guide.

Men who have put in the effort know that these babes are a walking liability and this in turn is going to affect dating prospects of a lot of women because modern day men dangerously know too much nowadays aren't willing to put up with rubbish unlike their fathers generation.

Tallesty1:
Because we're not overly sensitive? That was a dark humor

Who isn’t overly sensitive?

Notice how nobody had a hunch he wasn’t Nigerian until YOU mentioned it.

zanshi:
➜Even guys who are financially stable don't want women who don't have nothing doing or come from very poor background. Seems you don't how irritably classist Nigerian women can be, people wey fit look you head to toe, cap you say i don't talk to guys who use android or i can't talk to you if you don't have this and that meanwhile, her papa no guide or even she and her brothers no guide.
➜Men who have put in the effort know that these babes are a walking liability and this in turn is going to affect dating prospects of a lot of women because modern day men dangerously know too much nowadays aren't willing to put up with rubbish unlike their fathers generation.

These men do not want women from poor backgrounds. Yet, when these women decide to forgo relationships altogether to raise their financial status so they can become more desirable, these same set of men rail against them doing so, as you can see from the many comments on this thread alone, encouraging poor women to get pregnant before chasing their interests.

2. Can we safely conclude that many of these men here demanding women have children before tackling their financial disabilities are dolts?

nwirinedu:
You when you re finally financially stable with no eggs and no kids.

If I looked that good at 42, I wouldn’t be crying.

It’s funny how you all resort to AI for what you claim is a real world problem in women. Where is your real life example?

Where is your real life example of a woman crying alone on her 42nd birthday?

Why did you use an AI generated photo?

Kobojunkie:
These men do not want women from poor backgrounds. Yet, when these women decide to forgo relationships altogether to raise their financial status so they can become more desirable, these same set of men rail against them doing so, as you can see from the many comments on this thread alone, encouraging poor women to get pregnant before chasing their interests.

2. Can we safely conclude that many of these men here demanding women have children before tackling their financial disabilities are dolts?

When men advise as brutish as may sound it comes from a place of love, for women they would berate you with the way you deliver the truth because even though they acknowledge that it may be right their emotions wouldn't allow them see throuht that.

Men and Women have 2 different realities when it comes to relationship and expectations to, if a woman chooses not to take the 19-29 year window of her fertile life to date, settle down and procreate, it comes with damming conceuqences that may affect 2/4 women, you don't hear men screaming blue murder about "independece'' when they have an egalitarian mindeset to gather resources and share with their friends and their household and it is only getting more pronouced from women because if i am independent i can alienate from society and choose to live life on my own terms, how selfish.

zanshi:
➜When men advise as brutish as may sound it comes from a place of love, for women they would berate you with the way you deliver the truth because even though they acknowledge that it may be right their emotions wouldn't allow them see throuht that.
➜ Men and Women have 2 different realities when it comes to relationship and expectations to, if a woman chooses not to take the 19-29 year window of her fertile life to date, settle down and procreate, it comes with damming conceuqences that may affect 2/4 women, you don't hear men screaming blue murder about "independece'' when they have an egalitarian mindeset to gather resources and share with their friends and their household and it is only getting more pronouced from women because if i am independent i can alienate from society and choose to live life on my own terms, how selfish.

1. How can this advice be said to come from a place of love when, in your previous comment,t you pointed out that such women were considered liabilities by men who would rather not have anything to do with them? Are you sure you are OK at all? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. What in the world is this rambling for, abeg! Thanks to science and technology— surrogacy, IVF, Fibroid treatment, egg freezing, sperm banks, etc.— women are now able to have babies even into their 50s(& beyond)if they choose to. 🙄🙄

Why is it difficult to expect anything in the way of a sensible response when your very own comments are questioned? 🙄🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. How can this advice be said to come from a place of love when, in your previous comment,t you pointed out that such women were considered liabilities by men who would rather not have anything to do with them? Are you sure you are OK at all? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. What in the world is this rambling for, abeg! Thanks to science and technology— surrogacy, IVF, Fibroid treatment, egg freezing, sperm banks, etc., women are now able to have babies even into their 60s(or beyond)if they choose to. 🙄🙄

Why is it difficult to expect anything in the way of a sensible response when your very own comments are questioned? 🙄🙄🙄

Tor!

Proserpina:
So women should not be financially stable before marriage? Okay

You can't please Nigerian men.

LilMissFavvy:
Caption says "Doctor says", it should have been Nigerian doctor says . Senseless f000ls who having nothing good to contribute in medicine asides meaning shades at women.

He's Ugandan

Kobojunkie:
Abeg, Get lost! 🙄🙄🙄

Who gave this one his certificate and made him a doctor abeg! All these quarks calling themselves doctors and experts.

I see pain

Faposky95:
You're a guy ain't ya.....
Started cool, then went SIMP mode
Here, take a like......give it back...?!
As long as it's a coin situation.... it's either this or that
Keep to the script....we also know

Hahahha…

Me and Koboj.lie have had our series of battles on nairaland…
I just decided to be a bit merciful in my unfiltered harsh truth. I’ve been too brutal but I decided to be a bit nice recently

1Sharon:
Who isn’t overly sensitive?

Notice how nobody had a hunch he wasn’t Nigerian until YOU mentioned it.

After how many comments? And since when does being the first to say something mean you’re the only one who knows? So just because you didn’t know, nobody else knew either? Your thinking and the way you all argue like everything is absolute is something else.

Kobojunkie:
Fibroids can be removed, and many women can resume childbearing right after that.

Also, many women who are completely done with childbearing still go on to develop fibroids. Do you pretend that since she has had all the kids she wants, she does not deserve treatment? Nonsense! 🙄🙄

Who said they can't be removed? Who said women done with child bearing can develop them? We are saying older women are more likely to have it than younger ones and it leads to complications in conception and during gestation and even after child birth. Getting angry and vibrating will not change that fact!

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
➜Who said they can't be removed? Who said women done with child bearing can develop them? We are saying older women are more likely to have it than younger ones and it leads to complications in conception and during gestation and even after child birth. Getting angry and vibrating will not change that fact!

Stop Rambling, abeg! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Adakintroy:
You can make your point without resulting to insult and angry comment. Its what other pretending intellectuals do. Which kind of man advice daughter to be depended on men. I provide for my wife. Did any one advice me to do it or did his parents advice her to depend on me. Is that a bad commitment or good. There are things that tllt more towards natural order. Women can work but in a crude afrca deviod of technology. Men are already in the clear. Because of crude or raw strenght. You are asking too much from them to adopt the hard core strong independent mindset. Work hard yes..but if you are also kind humble and respectfull you will get the looking of men by way of assist. its not a bad option to keep.with regards survival. many women like the option in seceret. Its only in the open they talk tough.

Balderdash

descarado:
Jehovah.
How did you become antinatalist.
Is it by religion, trauma, background or self discovery?
If you don't mind telling me.
I'm excited to learn something new.

It came to me as if it were a revelation from the kingdom of God. Yes, self-discovery also played a major part.
Sorry, I actually mind telling you, because this is a public space. It would have been better if only us were discussing about it.

Hope you had a stress-free day.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense Go tell that to the many childfree women out there now in the 50s who never heard the word fibroid mentioned to them by their doctors.

Fibroids happen to women whether they have children or not. There is no either...or...relationship between the having of children and the having of fibroids. Yes, lots of women who have had children also encounter fibroids. A supposed professional scaring women into having kids they are not ready for is the highest level of professional ignorance.

Why are you so worried by this doctor advice

He didn't force to have child when you re not ready but he gives advice vase on risk associated with late childbearing

Second;y you re digressing from what he said, he didn't say that a woman with early childbearing doesn't has fibroid but a woman that hasn't given birth before fibrous knocks may not have child again. And late childbearing increase risk of fibroid

galantjoe:
➜Why are you so worried by this doctor advice. He didn't force to have child when you re not ready but he gives advice vase on risk associated with late childbearing Second;y you re digressing from what he said, he didn't say that a woman with early childbearing doesn't has fibroid but a woman that hasn't given birth before fibrous knocks may not have child again. And late childbearing increase risk of fibroid

. This is all untrue since out in the west, late childbearing is the norm, but fibroid cases are the lowest out there compared to places like Nigeria. Second, it is wrong to claim that fibroids end a woman's ability to have children.

Stop the misinformation and let the women breathe! 😩😩😩😩

Maysdevices:
Balderdash

Its not! You are use to.taking your own advice and insulting that of others. In other words you cant reaosn with others if you not the one leading. Grow up.

Tallesty1:
How is he quark?

I wonder oo, You know women don't like truth lol

1Sharon:
If I looked that good at 42, I wouldn’t be crying.

It’s funny how you all resort to AI for what you claim is a real world problem in women. Where is your real life example?

Where is your real life example of a woman crying alone on her 42nd birthday?

Why did you use an AI generated photo?

Oh I assure you the photos are real, and there are real life examples around you if you care to look. infact your tone suggest you just saw one but cant accept the reality.

folake4u:
You can't please Nigerian men.

I tell you.

Allthingswork:
It came to me as if it were a revelation from the kingdom of God. Yes, self-discovery also played a major part.
Sorry, I actually mind telling you, because this is a public space. It would have been better if only us were discussing about it.

Hope you had a stress-free day.

Thanks

descarado:
Continue bashing women through your forum seun.
They are leaving in their numbers. It will soon become all male forum. This forum shows the toxicity of Nigerian men towards women. There are some guys I admire their intellectual but get disappointed when they discuss issues about women. In other words, they are like the rest of Nigerian men who just can't function without stepping on women. Don't know if it's religion, rigid culture and low self esteem that causes that.

You will know the real man around you when you start making close to what he makes in a year, or the same and above what he makes. It doesn't hide. That insecurity will just appear from nowhere. Even pastors. That's why they preach submission and this is Africa everyday. As if they know the tribes in 54 countries in Africa and their cultures.

Thisssssssssssssssssssssss!

Proserpina:
I tell you.

Wahala ti wa.

descarado:
Continue bashing women through your forum seun.
They are leaving in their numbers. It will soon become all male forum. This forum shows the toxicity of Nigerian men towards women. There are some guys I admire their intellectual but get disappointed when they discuss issues about women. In other words, they are like the rest of Nigerian men who just can't function without stepping on women. Don't know if it's religion, rigid culture and low self esteem that causes that.

You will know the real man around you when you start making close to what he makes in a year, or the same and above what he makes. It doesn't hide. That insecurity will just appear from nowhere. Even pastors. That's why they preach submission and this is Africa everyday. As if they know the tribes in 54 countries in Africa and their cultures.

@Op not all men area as stereotyped as you describe. While it's true that most men find it hard to be confident and not intimidated by strong women because of their ego, there're still some of us who ain't intimidated in the least. I am one of them.

descarado:
Thanks

Kay

IamMobisola:
Some of you talk out of sheer ignorance.

There are lots of ladies below 25years of age with fibroids. Go talk to a doctor you know and let them educate you properly.

If a lady in her 20s goes into marriage without being financially stable herself, you same lots will abuse such ladies saying they are gold diggers and liabilities.

Such ignorance

That is where I have a problem with dem alpha male ideology. You cannot expect women to bring finances to the table, yet expect them to be much younger. It does not work that way. At the same time, women should understand that the biological clock exists and should be mindful of it.

It is a global issue anyway, not entirely a Nigerian or an African one.

occfx:
Na lie... Sweet 16 is every man's dream... Ask Ned. Men go for suger mummies just for the dough. No big reasonable boy needs a womans money for anything. I don't need your financial stability, just give me the opueh as e dey hot. Later, I go stabilize you as you want like 30kva stabilizer.

lol
How many Nigerian men are like Ned Nwoko? If every man's dream is a sweet 16, how come many young men are arguing for women to come along with money and not be liabilities? Building one's career or a business takes time. Unfortunately, women's biology does not flow with that. Yes, it is biologically appropriate for women to bear children early in life and later focus on their craft (I had classmates who did such and I think they won it well enough). I would say the solution is to get married to a kind man who is doing something while playing the long game to economic stability. To add, have fewer children.

We cannot always win it in life. We win some and lose some.

bitbillionaire:
In today's world where most men are unreliable, unstable and struggling to survive it makes sense to me if a lady insists on being financially stable before having kids as long as she has not seen a wealthy, financially stable suitor yet. But once she has suitor who is already wealthy it no longer makes sense to me for her to insist on being financially stable before having kids.

Who says you can't pursue your dreams after having kids or even while being pregnant?

The way we throw the word "wealthy" in social discourse in Nigeria, one would think the country is Switzerland.