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helinues:
Quarter is better than nothing. There are numerous projects, proposed that would be undertaking in the last 2 years .

Hope you read about the stock exchange profits margin by different companies. The companies, their investors are 90% Nigerians .

Sectors like Immigration, the process of obtaining new passport, renewal have been upgraded, that's service delivery.

Abuja, FCT can now be competing with other state capital in terms of development, all thanks to Wike. They are glaring and visible

New proposed highway from Lagos to Abuja that will pass through like 6 states taking 4 hours plus.

Things are happening under this government even if you guys at the opposite chose not see them

What is quarter now that was nothing before?

Immigration? Under buhari I got my passport in less than 2 weeks. Under tinubu it took like 3 weeks and double what I paid under buhari to Renew, so what exactly do you mean, one thing wrong with you guys is that you are far from reality, it's only online news, go to Immigration office and get a firsthand experience

FCT has always experienced development irrespective of who the minister was. So while I congratulate wike for fct development, we should ignore the fact that his activities in rivers state has kept the state at standstill in terms of development

Take this to the bank I am very closer to tinubu government than you can imagine so i know a whole lot of things happening that you dont see online, but I don't care, I stand with common man in asking, what is it for the common man on the street

Factcheck0001:
please name the remaining parties


Don't forget LP is PDP lite because same people in LP today were once strong members of PDP few years ago

Bro, Elrufai and Atiku, have they not been in Apc too? The so called opposition are not just been sincere to themselves

Factcheck0001:
please name the remaining parties


Don't forget LP is PDP lite because same people in LP today were once strong members of PDP few years ago

There were 18 presidential candidates in 2023 elections. So apc lp and pdp weren't the only parties

drlateef:
Complete rubbish. Is this how daft many people are in this country. ”Just give it to anyone outside APC”, what kind of madness is in that thinking. So you can collect your child from the claws of a wolf and give it to a lion without thinking? Only nzogbu nzogbu people think like this. Very sorry state of the mind indeed!

they know what they are doing, their problem is that they hate APC and can't stand that a Yoruba man is the president but since they can't say it out

That's y they always say collect it from APC n give it to anyone, it's like saying just collect it from Yoruba n give it to anybody even if it's a Cameroonian or a Ghanaian.

They just don't want a Yoruba there

Zionmdde:
There were 18 presidential candidates in 2023 elections. So apc lp and pdp weren't the only parties

oya give us the ones to vote n make sure they have never been in APC, PDP or LP before.


Oya now

Zionmdde:
What is quarter now that was nothing before?

Immigration? Under buhari I got my passport in less than 2 weeks. Under tinubu it took like 3 weeks and double what I paid under buhari to Renew, so what exactly do you mean, one thing wrong with you guys is that you are far from reality, it's only online news, go to Immigration office and get a firsthand experience

FCT has always experienced development irrespective of who the minister was. So while I congratulate wike for fct development, we should ignore the fact that his activities in rivers state has kept the state at standstill in terms of development

Take this to the bank I am very closer to tinubu government than you can imagine so i know a whole lot of things happening that you dont see online, but I don't care, I stand with common man in asking, what is it for the common man on the street

You are not being sincere here. How many times did you get a new passport? If you get one already, you only need to renew for extension.

Secondly, the reforms under immigration started under GEJ but it was slow, it has been improving ever since which means the immigration currently is better than the past.

Regarding Wike, no man is holy, this discussion is about what he has done as a minister under this government not Rivers issue.

As for standing with the masses, I don't understand which masses you are referring to, are they the same benefitting from different government projects, empowerment and developments? How would you tell those people that this government is not doing anything or are they Burundians hence can't be counted as Nigerians benefitting under this government

Factcheck0001:
they know what they are doing, their problem is that they hate APC and can't stand that a Yoruba man is the president but since they can't say it out

That's y they always say collect it from APC n give it to anyone, it's like saying just collect it from Yoruba n give it to anybody even if it's a Cameroonian or a Ghanaian.

They just don't want a Yoruba there

You are complaining they can't stand a yoruba man, did they also make that complain for obasanjo? If they say let it be rotational presidency across the 6 regions, won't you be the same person that will kick against it?


Na wa oooo. Bigots and not having sense are just like siamese twins

Give it to 0b1 who has shown capacity, capability and compassion

Factcheck0001:
Many atimes I keep seeing things like, let's take our country back.

The question is take it back then give it to who?

Who are we giving it to?

Hope it's not the issue of same wine in a different bottle?


Personally left to me, if truly we are sincere about taking our country back, then we should be sincere with ourselves


We should give it to someone who have never been there before, a youth who have the zeal to do something different

Someone who haven't failed us before, to me it's insincerity to tell me to take it back from an APC man n give it to a PDP man!!!

Do a little time travel back to 6 years ago n tell me if APC isn't equal to PDP today?

Ask yourself, how can an over 60 year old man be seen as a youth if we are been sincere with ourselves?

If a 60 year old man is a youth, then what should we call a 45 year old man?

I guess a toddler?


If your plan is to take it back and give it to anyone that have held positions between 99 to 2023 then u are insincere.

helinues:
You are not being sincere here. How many times did you get a new passport? If you get one already, you only need to renew for extension.

Secondly, the reforms under immigration started under GEJ but it was slow, it has been improving ever since which means the immigration currently is better than the past.

Regarding Wike, no man is holy, this discussion is about what he has done as a minister under this government not Rivers issue.

As for standing with the masses, I don't understand which masses you are referring to, are they the same benefitting from different government projects, empowerment and developments? How would you tell those people that this government is not doing anything or are they Burundians hence can't be counted as Nigerians benefitting under this government

1st paragraph, I said it, you are far from reality, so the passport will not expire again, have you seen your life? If I got the passport in 2018 won't it expire by 2023? Let me inform you, because of changes between 2015 to 2023, if you go to renew a passport of (2015-2020) you will be advised to apply for a new one.

Secondly I have given you a clear comparison, today, if you need your passport early enough you pay for express. The only improvement I have seen is on news

3rd, I was a huge wike supporter when he was rivers governor, but diverting the will of the people during 2023 elections and disrupting Fubara’s government is heartless, selfish and devilish

Finally, I said it before, if you are sincere to yourself, if you leave your phone and go to the streets and interact with people, what feedback do you think they will give you? Who are the beneficiaries of these developments? Common man? NEVER. it's still those who have political connections. Even jobs that people who don't know anyone were getting before, it's now by slots.

drlateef:
Complete rubbish. Is this how daft many people are in this country. ”Just give it to anyone outside APC”, what kind of madness is in that thinking. So you can collect your child from the claws of a wolf and give it to a lion without thinking? Only nzogbu nzogbu people think like this. Very sorry state of the mind indeed!

Rearrange your brain cells and come again. Try to sound like a sane person this time around

DMerciful:
Give it to 0b1 who has shown capacity, capability and compassion

how did he show that during his 8 years of governance in anambara?


Don't tell me what he will do as president, tell me what he did in anambara that spelt capacity, capability n compassion?


If he had d capacity, y did poverty rise under him?

If he had d capability, y was he terribly cursed as governor?

If he had d compassion, y didn't he show it by stopping doctors n lecturers from going on strike?

Didn't he consider their family will go hungry?

Zionmdde:
You are complaining they can't stand a yoruba man, did they also make that complain for obasanjo? If they say let it be rotational presidency across the 6 regions, won't you be the same person that will kick against it?


Na wa oooo. Bigots and not having sense are just like siamese twins

they got better appointment during obj tenure

So they are only after their mouth n not d betterment of d country

helinues:
https://www.nairaland.com/8444558/president-tinubu-performed-better-first

The thread above, none of you could dispute the little achievements listed there. You guys don't expect us to keep on repeating ourselves

This man find work o. Time na money.

Factcheck0001:
they got better appointment during obj tenure

So they are only after their mouth n not d betterment of d country

Lol
Why changing your stand, so its no longer about they can't stand a yoruba president. Na wa ooo, stand one place and stop shifting.

OK what do you think about rotational presidency where every region will get the opportunity to get the presidency?

Zionmdde:
Lol
Why changing your stand, so its no longer about they can't stand a yoruba president. Na wa ooo, stand one place and stop shifting.

OK what do you think about rotational presidency where every region will get the opportunity to get the presidency?

I oppose it.

What if that region that will provide presidency give us their worst candidate?


Imagine ibos of today telling us the same obi they all put voice together to call failure is now the best?


What if it's d turn of d north central n they give us yahaya Bello or Dino melaye?

What if it's d turn of d north west n they present that governor that declared a month holiday break for Ramadan?

What if it's d turn of the el rufai region n they give us el rufai despite he admiting he hates Christians?


What if it's d turn of the south west n davido n his fellow influencers start making us n they present ade dancer of osun state as governor?


When it comes to rotational presidency then it won't b about competency but what d people want irrespective of how bad.

We have even seen it in our immediate family where it is d unserious n d ambitionless one that the father will love

So if it's by turn by turn, the father can leave his graduate son cos he doesn't like him n pick the unserious one that refuse to go to school when opportunity shows

At least it's d father's turn to present candidate too

Factcheck0001:
Many atimes I keep seeing things like, let's take our country back.

The question is take it back then give it to who?

Who are we giving it to?

Hope it's not the issue of same wine in a different bottle?


Personally left to me, if truly we are sincere about taking our country back, then we should be sincere with ourselves


We should give it to someone who have never been there before, a youth who have the zeal to do something different

Someone who haven't failed us before, to me it's insincerity to tell me to take it back from an APC man n give it to a PDP man!!!

Do a little time travel back to 6 years ago n tell me if APC isn't equal to PDP today?

Ask yourself, how can an over 60 year old man be seen as a youth if we are been sincere with ourselves?

If a 60 year old man is a youth, then what should we call a 45 year old man?

I guess a toddler?


If your plan is to take it back and give it to anyone that have held positions between 99 to 2023 then u are insincere.

Bro, please forget this talk of youth or those who have never held position between 99 to 2023 and other self-deceiving search for untainted messiahs.

They do not exist as Dimeji Bankole, Yaya Bello, Betta Edu and many other youthful leaders have shown.

We have a system that glorifies wealth and makes it a criminal offence to be poor. This culture is handed to even unborn babies from the womb meaning the search for messiah is foolhardy as most Nigerians, regardless of age, are primed to steal by our system of grisham materialisme and ludicrous opulence in the midst of excruciatint poverty.

If we are serious, we will understand even folks in the best nations on Earth would be thieving criminals, per traits of human beings, if the nations they live in does not have strict systems and laws to punish criminal behaviour, theft, embezzlement etc.

If truly serious, it is our system we must change. Jettison the Presidential system that makes Nigeria a free-for-all cake everyone allowed in the cake room is encouraged to partake in eating and even taking enough to last them 100 years.

We should push for regional autonomy where it will be easier for Yorubas, Hausas, Urhobo, Tiv etal to hold their regional Premier, lawmakers etal to account.

Nigeria has too many ethnic groups, with very different outlook, than is possible to unite patriotically towards the mission of creating a great nation.

Better to create a great nation by creating great regions because that will be easier to achieve since people with homogeneity of ideas and belief system will manage themselves, their land and resources better once it is crystal clear regions are on their own and there is no longer access to federal billions to loot.

Do your own research on 0b1, don't follow bandwagon

Factcheck0001:
how did he show that during his 8 years of governance in anambara?


Don't tell me what he will do as president, tell me what he did in anambara that spelt capacity, capability n compassion?


If he had d capacity, y did poverty rise under him?

If he had d capability, y was he terribly cursed as governor?

If he had d compassion, y didn't he show it by stopping doctors n lecturers from going on strike?

Didn't he consider their family will go hungry?

DMerciful:
Do your own research on 0b1, don't follow bandwagon

I am talking based on research bro

Didn't lecturers strike for 6 months under him?

Didn't doctors strike for 13 months under him?

Did he conduct local government election for 7 years?

Oga these are realities staring us in d eye, which other research do I need?

Can u counter this first?

Are there developmental indices?

Factcheck0001:
I am talking based on research bro

Didn't lecturers strike for 6 months under him?

Didn't doctors strike for 13 months under him?

Did he conduct local government election for 7 years?

Oga these are realities staring us in d eye, which other research do I need?

Can u counter this first?

DMerciful:
Are there developmental indices?

oga which other place can I find this narrative that has been debunked a million times aside this place from Netherlands.


Show me a national daily here in Nigeria that carried this?

Because I can also do same here n put any country

You wanna vote Tinubu? You wanna vote Atiku, go ahead.

What we will not do in 2027 is convince you to vote Obi, we did that in 2023!

Factcheck0001:
oga which other place can I find this narrative that has been debunked a million times aside this place from Netherlands.


Show me a national daily here in Nigeria that carried this?

Because I can also do same here n put any country

Factcheck0001:
I oppose it.

What if that region that will provide presidency give us their worst candidate?


Imagine ibos of today telling us the same obi they all put voice together to call failure is now the best?


What if it's d turn of d north central n they give us yahaya Bello or Dino melaye?

What if it's d turn of d north west n they present that governor that declared a month holiday break for Ramadan?

What if it's d turn of the el rufai region n they give us el rufai despite he admiting he hates Christians?


What if it's d turn of the south west n davido n his fellow influencers start making us n they present ade dancer of osun state as governor?


When it comes to rotational presidency then it won't b about competency but what d people want irrespective of how bad.

We have even seen it in our immediate family where it is d unserious n d ambitionless one that the father will love

So if it's by turn by turn, the father can leave his graduate son cos he doesn't like him n pick the unserious one that refuse to go to school when opportunity shows

At least it's d father's turn to present candidate too

Igbos support rotational government where hausa, yoruba, Ss, Igbos will all have opportunity to become president
Yet you accuse the same Igbos of hating tinubu because he is yoruba, the same you still said they loved OBJ because he gave them appointment
Have you seen how bigotry can get you very confused?
You have spent so much time discrediti

Country that has many states under siege, Benue, an APC state is presently under siege, Borno had it lucky today by repelling an attack on IDP camp. Warri has bandits relocating to Ozarra, imo state is having issues in some towns. All these are APC states. I have not mentioned Niger, Zamfara, Katsina, yobe. The whole APC states appear to be in a civil war

helinues:
Give it to those with no track records of achieving anything tangible when they had the privilege to serve

Politics aside, sentiments aside, emotions aside, please which of any of the presidential aspirants in Nigeria had/have the capacity to govern and be bold as a leader in decision making than president Tinubu? Who?

The gathering of the opposition forming coercion/coalition is just a waste of time because sentiments would favour president Tinubu. Whether the opposition are presenting their presidential candidate from North or South, the story of using one term can never sell.

A man who spent 8 yrs sharing blue print. In 2 yrs he has destroyed nigeria. He achieved so much but you are against seyi becoming the next governor of lagos. He did see what his father did in lagos and can even do better. Your SW president is a failure. I never imagined in my life anyone could be worst then buhari.
The coalition of individual politicians and Nigerians are coming. The bet on rigging will be resisted

helinues:
Give it to those with no track records of achieving anything tangible when they had the privilege to serve

Politics aside, sentiments aside, emotions aside, please which of any of the presidential aspirants in Nigeria had/have the capacity to govern and be bold as a leader in decision making than president Tinubu? Who?

The gathering of the opposition forming coercion/coalition is just a waste of time because sentiments would favour president Tinubu. Whether the opposition are presenting their presidential candidate from North or South, the story of using one term can never sell.

You will soon change handle and open another thread.i am all this 20k workers magani.

Factcheck0001:
I am talking based on research bro

Didn't lecturers strike for 6 months under him?

Didn't doctors strike for 13 months under him?

Did he conduct local government election for 7 years?

Oga these are realities staring us in d eye, which other research do I need?

Can u counter this first?

Atleast he has a school he attended. He has family members. He is not a drug baron. He did not forfeit drug money in any country. He doesn't have fake university certificate. He is not stopping American agencies from making public his cri..mi..nal records. We know his true age.He has businesses in nigeria to his name.He does not have a whole region as his estate

DMerciful:
You wanna vote Tinubu? You wanna vote Atiku, go ahead.

What we will not do in 2027 is convince you to vote Obi, we did that in 2023!

u don't even need to convince us

We will never vote him

Bring reasonable people like umahi, otti , soludo n co n we would support him but Peter obi is a failure according to u lots so u can keep hyping your failure

If Umahi is to contest against Fasola, will you support Umahi?

Factcheck0001:
u don't even need to convince us

We will never vote him

Bring reasonable people like umahi, otti , soludo n co n we would support him but Peter obi is a failure according to u lots so u can keep hyping your failure

DMerciful:
If Umahi is to contest against Fasola, will you support Umahi?

definitely

I will support umahi

kettykin:
Country that has many states under siege, Benue, an APC state is presently under siege, Borno had it lucky today by repelling an attack on IDP camp. Warri has bandits relocating to Ozarra, imo state is having issues in some towns. All these are APC states. I have not mentioned Niger, Zamfara, Katsina, yobe. The whole APC states appear to be in a civil war

if obi can't solve ordinary labour party problem


Oya tell me how u think he can solve all these problems u listed?

Time will tell

Factcheck0001:
definitely

I will support umahi