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samistry:
you mean the sports entertainer?
He isn't a legit professional wrestler like Kenny Omega

ValeeLove:
Maven Huffman
Botchamania
Promo Joe
Six Feet Under
Wrestling isn't Wrestling (video)
Super eye patch wolf.
Tranquilo Club.
Jim Cornette.


Some educative/entertaining things to check on YouTube as a wrestling fan. Drop more if you have.

samistry:
Wrestling with Wregret - classic ppvs review.
MarkyD123 - classic TNA coverage.
Wrestling Bios - attitude era WWE and WCW.

ValeeLove:
Question Time.

Did it make any logical sense that Cody and Logan Paul would want to fight in a tag team match rather than be in the MITB?

ValeeLove:
someone should help me here.

ValeeLove:
someone should help me here.

ValeeLove:
Maven Huffman
Botchamania
Promo Joe
Six Feet Under
Wrestling isn't Wrestling (video)
Super eye patch wolf.
Tranquilo Club.
Jim Cornette.


Some educative/entertaining things to check on YouTube as a wrestling fan. Drop more if you have.

samistry:
@valeelove I told you there will be a contenders match .
By the way did the youngbucks ever explain why they are supporting Moxley? They ran away from AEW for a while because they were scared of death riders.
What is the endgame of Mercedes collecting belts from different promotions?.

samistry:
Valee, you sef dey watch Botchamania?

samistry:
Cena interfered in the Logan vs Jey match for the championship. Cody came out to help Jey even the odds then made the proposal for a tag team match at mitb. It was about two guys challenging two other guys in a tag match.
There's no point putting Rhodes in the MITB match then losing when the plan is to have Seth win the briefcase. That will be back to back losses for Cody at PPV following mania.
Logan lost at Saturday night main event where a tag match challenge was made by Cody.
Why should he take the spot of another wrestler in mitb qualifiers when he has a tag match at same ppv?

The tag match at mitb also played into the story of Jey losing his title. Gunther berated Jey on the raw before the ppv for always helping out Sami and Cody rather than focus on the championship. Jey wrestled Gunther 48hours after that tag match while Gunther stayed fresh for almost a month preparing for him.
Cody will have a rematch against Cena probably at summerslam for the title.

pu7pl3:
Everyone can't be in the MITB match.

ValeeLove:
Is Mariah in this? If she's not, again, where is the logic in calling yourself the "next" champion when you just came in and *boom* you're not even in the contender's match? Who wrote it? Not "future" not "very soon", but next? When the writer clearly knows that she's not even in the radar for the belt anytime soon. Make it make sense. Some times they act like adults don't watch this.
Young Bucks, I'm not going to explain that but I'll play devil's advocate. They are both heels, they share the same enemies, and they don't actually care about the company - same as Death Riders (you can tell by Mox locking up the belt and running rampage on everyone), so they found a common ground, stopped the pretence and decide to take over AEW and do it their own way and in their own image as both teams need eachother.

Who wouldn't want more gold? I don't understand.

But, till now nobody knows why Brock attacked Cody.
And since I stopped watching I don't know how many other nonsense booking they've done that nobody understands.

ValeeLove:
so, I asked a reason not an excuse. I'm not saying do it because it's convenient I'm saying do it because it makes sense. I'm not saying your reasons aren't important but couldn't they have found a better way to implement them? What did Cody and Paul gain from the match, absolutely nothing. But their characters would have definitely thought it a better plan to go for the MITB. What better way could Cody have revenge on Cena if not by winning the case and taking back the title from Cena. They could still have their tag match, but at RAW or another PPV, not at a once in a year extremely important PPV as MITB. It was not an intelligent choice to make and you know it. Don't say WWE did it because... No, why did the characters do it?

samistry:
As I've said it times without number she along with the other women declared that they will be going for that title. That statement makes sense when you compare her to recent NXT signings, Ricky Saints and Ethan Page both of whom won titles soon after they debuted.
Aren't the youngbucks EVPS? Why would you help someone takeover the company when you already hold executive positions?
Brock is brock, he's never needed a reason to attack anyone.

samistry:
Lol do you need a briefcase to get a match with Cena? Randy, Punk, R-truth prove otherwise.
The tag match may not be important but it got Cody Rhodes a pinfall victory Cena. It puts a stake in his claim for a rematch.

ValeeLove:
You need a case to secure a match at least. Why didn't Seth discard the match and bother winning it since he's Seth and can get a title shot anytime he wants. Title shots people go through the Rumber and chamber to get is what you're downplaying. Don't forget it's still treated as a sport and you still have to fight for your spot regardless of how good you are.
Has he claimed for a rematch? A stake for a claim isn't still as big as a guaranteed title shot anytime anywhere.

While we're talking nonsensical bookings, let's talk Theory cashing in on the US title and still losing. I recall a lot of WWE fans defending it with their lives as they love to defend anything E and up till now that cash in hasn't done anything for Theory. Give it a shot if you want.

ValeeLove:
Oh really, did they go after the World titles immediately they came in. You can't defend this, sorry. The best you can come up with is either, Mariah mispoke or her character is delusional.

They hold exec positions, but they don't own the company. Plus, they don't have the respect of the locker room. They need strong hands to do that, hence the Riders come in. Again, I'm not telling you the story, I'm only trying my best to make sense out of it. That being said, I still don't like storylines in wrestling.

Now Brock is Brock. Since he returned at Summer slam, he had been talking on the mic, being part of the story. Making jokes. Telling everyone what he wanted. All of a sudden, he can't talk or reason because he's Brock.

ValeeLove:
but everyone should at least desire to be in it.

pu7pl3:
Ofcourse they do
You don't always get what you desire. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you get less.

pu7pl3:
Ofcourse they do
You don't always get what you desire. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you get less.

samistry:
Yes, Ethan Page went after the NXT title as soon as he came then won it. Watch show you no go gree .

samistry:
Didn't Seth challenge Jey for the belt last month on raw? Watch show you no go gree .
Theory cashed in for midcard belt and lost. That was the beginning of his burial.

ValeeLove:
on what ground? Do people just walk into companies and get World title shots at the go? Is that how it works now? Do you agree with that?

ValeeLove:
Then why is he with the briefcase if it isn't of utmost importance, after all he can get a title shot anytime he wants now?
At least we agree on one thing.

samistry:
Bro accept the L and move on. I pointed out an instance where Seth got a title match without a briefcase. Mitb comes once a year and it came at a time where Cody and Logan had issues to sort out with jey and Cena.
There are various ways to get a title shot. Even Logan Paul has gotten it against Roman and Jey without the briefcase.
There are various ways to get a title match. King of the ring, Royal rumble, mitb and making a direct challenge to the champ for his acceptance.

samistry:
Are you a stranger to wrestling? You know you can make a challenge for title and if the champion agrees you get a shot. Ethan Page attacked Trick Williams to get his attention then later demanded a title shot for the belt which was accepted by the champion.
I dn tire explain to who no dey watch but wan argue 😩

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKIP8u4ZkhI&pp=ygUTRXRoYW4gUGFnZSBjb250cmFjdA%3D%3D

ValeeLove:
Seth didn't just wake up one morning and get a title shot. He had to earn it by winning a couple of other matches and being next in line. But by winning MITB he gets it anytime anywhere. Let me ask you this, if Cody can get a title shot anytime he wants then why do we have Punk facing Cena at Saudi and not Cody? You see that your logic doesn't add up.
You're saying issues, there is no bigger issue than the belt. That's pro-wrestling 101. I once saw Shawn Michaels tell Bischoff that the best way he could get back at HHH was by taking his belt, it's very logical. The only reason they ended fighting against HIAC without any title on the line was because they had exhausted and cost eachother the opportunity at the belt. Again, it makes no sense for the characters of Cody and Paul to neglect the MITB briefcase for a tag team match that leads nowhere. Have them lose their opportunities to get a spot at the MITB first then this tag action can happen; that's what I mentioned earlier about excuse and reason. If they wanted to do that, they could have done it that way, you cover up your logic holes in the process.

ValeeLove:
it doesn't make it right. It means anyone can do that, so what prestige does the belt have? You answer that.

samistry:
A champion has discretion to answer or refuse a challenge especially a fighting champion. Make of that what you want.

ValeeLove:
not in a sport. Take UFC for instance, while there is no clear ranking system like football, you can't just come and get a world title shot like that. It don't work like that.