₦airaland Forum

WritterNg:
This is why I don't respect Muslims. They never support and defend each other.

Even here a Muslim, Usmanopogo is backing a barbaric entity against his fellow brothers.

Rilwayne001:
It’s a Shia vs Sunni thing.

Sunni hates Shia more than they hate the Jews.

Kingsnairaland:
Just out from a three hours meeting what is new here three pages since I left wow

Let pray for the peace of Israel

Iran should calm down and make a non nuke deal

ISRAEL should calm too

Allthelight:
So Iran didn't managed to shoot down even one plane

TenQ:
The Jews and the Arabs were coexisting before 1948 as stateless people until the words of the prophet was remembered.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2236
Ibn 'Umar narrated that the Messenger of Allah(s.a.w) said:
"You shall fight the Jews. You will gain such control over them, that a rock will say: 'O Muslim! This Jew is behind me so kill him!'"

Mishkat al-Masabih 5414
He reported God's messenger as saying, "The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the stone and the tree will say, `O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.' The only exception will be the box-thorn, for it is one of the trees of the Jews."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2926
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


Can you please ask why the "ethnic Palestinian Jews" were forced out of Gaza strip by the Israeli Government in 2005?

Rilwayne001:
It’s a Shia vs Sunni thing.

Sunni hates Shia more than they hate the Jews.

Rilwayne001:
It’s a Shia vs Sunni thing.

Sunni hates Shia more than they hate the Jews.

basilico:
I believe you. I really do. I have insider info
The commander who ordered it switched off had tipped off IDF that he wanted to die and meet his virgins early . He was afraid of taking cyanide like Hitler so he gave IDF the coordinates of his home

Gbadebo19:
Imagine taking out your chief nuclear scientist and chief of army staff in a first strike. ☹️☹️. And your most important nuclear facility (Natanz) is already rubbles.
The rest of your army is already demoralized.

seunny4lif:
Immediately Libya and Syria war broken out, ans NK saw what happened in those countries, they secretly required nukes with the help of China and Russia, prefect it and displayed it for world to see.
Showing they will use it immediately they come under attack, because NK knew that it has no capacity to go one on one with SK/USA on military hardwares e.g logistics and weapons but they know 20 nukes can turn SK and Japan to rubbish and they are also ready for the consequences.
With that USA backed off

Imagine your 2nd most important person was killed yet they did nothing, no nukes displayed, nothing.
Isreali military knew she was surrounded by enemies and waste no time to acquired nukes.
Even NK tried to help Iran to get nukes but their so called supreme leader said NO.
Do they want Russia military to spoon feed them?
They are planned to break up Iran into 3 countries and they never hide it just like they need hide Russia own too but Russia nukes is the only different.

I respect NK supreme leader more, the guy was smart and quick to action while is father was afraid to acquire nukes during his time.

How can Iran watched all her neighbours get weak and not rush to get nukes even when Russia, NK and China were ready to help

seunny4lif:
Immediately Libya and Syria war broken out, ans NK saw what happened in those countries, they secretly required nukes with the help of China and Russia, prefect it and displayed it for world to see.
Showing they will use it immediately they come under attack, because NK knew that it has no capacity to go one on one with SK/USA on military hardwares e.g logistics and weapons but they know 20 nukes can turn SK and Japan to rubbish and they are also ready for the consequences.
With that USA backed off

Imagine your 2nd most important person was killed yet they did nothing, no nukes displayed, nothing.
Isreali military knew she was surrounded by enemies and waste no time to acquired nukes.
Even NK tried to help Iran to get nukes but their so called supreme leader said NO.
Do they want Russia military to spoon feed them?
They are planned to break up Iran into 3 countries and they never hide it just like they need hide Russia own too but Russia nukes is the only different.

I respect NK supreme leader more, the guy was smart and quick to action while is father was afraid to acquire nukes during his time.

How can Iran watched all her neighbours get weak and not rush to get nukes even when Russia, NK and China were ready to help

23jerryking:
with what?😂😂
They have superior air defence systems but only on Nairaland...

obedience4:
Too many emotional people here, North Korea acquiring nukes is a detriment to China and it shows china innadequites, North Korea do not border The US and nor Israel

There's no way Iran is acquiring any nukes, the Jews will simply strike the nuclear facilities, just have we have seen today.. if a Pro Russian guy should win an election in Canada or Mexico, do you think the US will allow both nations acquired nukes?? Remember the cuba missile crisis.

If North Korea were to border the US she won't posses the nukes she have today, she would have been overrun before that happens, why do you think south korea and Japan are under the US nuclear deterrence umbrella

CreativeOrbit:
Your attempt to shift the conversation from modern Israeli war crimes to cherry-picked eschatological hadiths reveals both desperation and ignorance. Let me respond to your deflection with the clarity and harshness it deserves.

1. Quoting Hadiths to Justify Zionist Colonialism? Pathetic.

You cite eschatological hadiths—about end-times scenarios—not normative Islamic commands for today. These hadiths are prophecies, not policies. They describe what will happen, not what Muslims are commanded to do now. There is a fundamental difference between descriptive prophecy and prescriptive ethics.

> Try again when you understand basic hermeneutics.

Meanwhile, what is prescriptive in Islam is the prohibition of oppression, the defense of the oppressed, and the right to resist tyranny. And if you’re seriously quoting hadith while supporting a regime that bombs hospitals and starves children, then congratulations—you’ve weaponized Islamic scripture to sanitize genocide.

2. “Jews and Arabs coexisted peacefully before 1948”?

You're right—and that coexistence ended the moment Zionist militias began ethnically cleansing Palestine in 1947–48. It was Zionism, not Islam, that tore apart peaceful Jewish-Arab relations. The Nakba didn’t happen because of religion. It happened because armed settlers, backed by imperial powers, began forcibly displacing an indigenous population for the sake of creating an ethno-state.

> Nearly 800,000 Palestinians were expelled. Over 500 villages were destroyed. And you dare talk about “coexistence”?

3. Zionist Regime Expelled Jews from Gaza in 2005? Yes — Because It’s a Racist State.

The “ethnic Palestinian Jews” you claim were “forced out” of Gaza in 2005 were not natives. They were illegal settlers living on stolen land under military protection while Palestinians were caged in ghettos.

And who forced them out? The Israeli government—not Palestinians. Why? Because Israel wanted to consolidate control of the West Bank and maintain the siege on Gaza from the outside while pretending to "disengage."

> That wasn’t coexistence ending—it was Zionist strategy evolving.

If Israel expelled its own settlers, that’s not evidence of peace-loving Zionism—it’s evidence of manipulative statecraft using people as pawns in a larger colonial project.

4. Citing Hadith While Supporting an Apartheid State? Laughable.

If you're going to quote Islamic texts, then be consistent. Here’s a few principles you conveniently ignore:

“Do not kill women or children or the elderly or sick.”

“Do not destroy trees or crops or buildings.”

“Do not betray, mutilate, or act unjustly.”

These are prophetic commands to Muslims even in war. Yet Israel bombs entire families, flattens hospitals, blocks food and water, and then whines about resistance.

> Where’s your outrage for the babies burned alive in incubators because Israel cut electricity?

> Where’s your morality when white phosphorus rains down on UN shelters?

Your silence on those crimes makes your hadith quotes nothing but hollow hypocrisy.

5. Don’t Pretend You Care About Jews — You’re Just Using Them.

Let’s be clear: your concern isn’t for Jews. It’s for deflecting criticism from a colonial state that uses Jewish identity as a human shield. Israel doesn’t represent world Jewry—it represents a political ideology called Zionism. And many Jews—Orthodox, secular, even Holocaust survivors—oppose it.

You bring up hadiths as if Islam mandates genocide. Meanwhile, Israel is actually carrying out real-world genocide right now—live on camera, with American weapons, and your full-throated support.

6. Final Reality Check:

You think quoting hadiths will morally disarm Muslims?

You think we will ignore:

The starvation of 2 million people?

The slaughter of over 15,000 children in Gaza?

The theft of land, the bulldozing of homes, the arrests of teenagers, the shooting of journalists and medics?

> Islam does not teach pacifism in the face of oppression.
It teaches resistance, dignity, and justice.
And Palestine is the test of our moral clarity.

So no—we will not be distracted by your weak theological smokescreens.

Until Zionism ends, occupation ends, and the siege ends,

Resistance is not terrorism—it is the language of the besieged.

And quoting hadiths won’t save a regime whose hands drip with innocent blood.

Gbadebo19:
You keep downplaying the thing as if Russia is not getting help from elsewhere. I have a leaked document showing how tonnes of African gold were stolen and used to pay Iran for drones. China's manufacturing capacity dwarfs the whole of Europe. The same china is also supplying aid to Russia. North Korea is also supplying thousands in soldiers. Your point doesn't stand.

obedience4:
That has to be dumb*et analysis I have read in a while.

WritterNg:
⚡Iranian drones have already entered Syrian airspace.

LordAdam16:
Surely, now Ayatollah Khamenei will issue a fatwa permitting the development of a nuclear weapon.
Or assemble a nuclear weapon and run a test.

Add yesternight to the always-expanding list of demonstrations of the mullahs' ineptitude.

Get a nuclear weapon. Declare war.
That should be easy.
But let's see if the clowns can manage that.

-Lord

basilico:
V8

Go duel it out at the religion section mention me so that I can join in.
The following phrases apply to the IDF attack.
The Pandora's box has been opened.
The banality of the Ayatollahs is now exposed.
The Rubicon has been crossed.
IDF stirred the hornets nest.
The gates of hell have been flung wide open.
A storm has been unleashed.
The powder keg has been ignited and the Veil of restraint has been torn.

Let's see what a country with useless Anti Aircraft Defence system will do next .

DystopianMuse:
KAI NA. This is too harsh. Take it easy on Iranians.. Naira land branch 🤣😀🤣🤣🤣

LordAdam16:
Don't bother yourself.

Very soon some will come here to vent about how China and Russia are to blame for the idiocy of the Mullahs.
Their allies have given them everything they need.
They have enriched fissile material. They still have operational nuclear sites as we speak. They have the delivery system.

Only Heaven knows what else they've been waiting for and continue to wait for.

-Lord

CreativeOrbit:
Thank you for your reply. However, your response suffers from false equivalence, selective framing, and a misunderstanding of the scale and nature of the conflict.

1. Russia’s Alleged “Support” Is Not Comparable to NATO’s Backing of Ukraine

You mentioned alleged support to Russia from countries like Iran, North Korea, and China. Let’s be precise:

Iran’s drone supply is real but limited to specific types of tactical weaponry like Shahed drones—low-cost, expendable assets, not a strategic game-changer.

North Korea’s involvement is largely speculative. Claims of supplying artillery shells and possibly laborers or advisors are not comparable to NATO's real-time battlefield intelligence, satellite data, cyber support, and state-of-the-art weapons.

China, while economically significant to Russia, has avoided direct military support to prevent sanctions and geopolitical backlash. It sells dual-use goods, not tanks or advanced missile systems.

Now compare that to Ukraine’s backing:

Over $250+ billion in aid from NATO and EU countries.

Continuous supplies of long-range missile systems (HIMARS), Patriot air defense, Leopard tanks, Bradleys, and F-16 fighter jets (soon to arrive).

NATO-grade training, surveillance, logistics, and battlefield coordination.

This is not a symmetrical support structure. You're comparing a few countries’ marginal support to a full-scale, institutionalized, multi-nation military alliance backing Ukraine with near-unlimited funding and intelligence.

2. Russia Is a Sovereign Power, Ukraine Is a Proxy Warzone

Russia is the initiating state power. Ukraine is the battlefield—and its survival is contingent on foreign lifelines. Without Western support, the Ukrainian military would collapse. That’s not conjecture; it’s admitted openly by U.S. and European officials.

By contrast, Russia is not dependent on any one foreign supplier for its military survival. Its defense industry, while strained, is domestic. It has nuclear capabilities, one of the largest standing armies, and is self-sufficient in energy and raw materials.

3. Allegations of “African Gold” Payments Are a Distraction, Not a Counterpoint

Even if we accept the claim of “African gold” being used by Russia to pay for weapons (which remains largely anecdotal and based on unverified leaks), it doesn’t prove your case. Illicit financial flows or backchannel trade do not equate to formal, institutional, legal military alliances like NATO.

> The core issue remains: Russia is fighting a NATO-armed proxy, not just Ukraine as a standalone actor. This fundamentally changes the dynamics, prolongs the conflict, and complicates any assumptions about military capability.

4. Conclusion: Your Argument Lacks Proportionality and Context

Yes, Russia receives limited support. But equating that with the structured, sustained, and coordinated NATO military campaign on Ukrainian soil is misleading.

The West has turned Ukraine into a frontline buffer against Russia—politically, economically, and militarily. The comparison between Russia’s allies and NATO's involvement simply doesn’t hold.

Let’s not pretend this is a symmetrical battlefield. It’s not.

CreativeOrbit:
So now you've abandoned argument and retreated into vague metaphors and ominous one-liners—as if theatrical language will distract from the blood on the hands of the regime you’re cheerleading.

Let me respond to your literary performance with blunt moral reality:

1. "The Pandora’s Box has been opened."
You're right. And inside that box was 75 years of colonial violence, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid. It was opened in 1948, not 2023. Everything since has been a consequence of your side’s crimes—not ours.

2. "The Rubicon has been crossed."
Indeed, it has. When the so-called “only democracy in the Middle East” decided to starve civilians, bomb hospitals, use white phosphorus on children, and flatten entire neighborhoods—all on camera—it crossed not just the Rubicon, but every red line of morality, law, and human decency.

3. "The gates of hell have been flung wide open."
You’re mistaken if you think hell opened in October 2023. It opened when Zionist militias massacred villages like Deir Yassin, raped Palestinian women, and burned olive groves. The hell you're seeing now is the result of decades of unchecked injustice finally erupting.

You want to talk about “dueling it out”?

Good. Let’s duel in truth, in history, and in unflinching moral clarity—not poetic soundbites hiding cowardice.

Because while you spout vague war metaphors, let me remind you of real numbers:

Over 15,000 children dead.

More than 40,000 Palestinians maimed.

2 million people starving in a besieged open-air prison.

Whole families erased from civil registries.

Entire neighborhoods turned to ash.

And still, your side talks about “defense.”

What kind of theology defends the starvation of toddlers? What kind of Christ would bless missiles raining down on hospitals? What kind of moral system do you represent—where the occupier is a victim and the occupied are terrorists for refusing to die quietly?

“Let’s see what a country with useless air defenses does next,” you say?

Let’s rephrase that:

> Let’s see what a nuclear-armed apartheid regime—funded by billions in American aid, backed by the most powerful empire on earth—does next, now that it has failed to crush the will of a besieged, barefoot population armed with homemade rockets and unshakable faith.

That’s not just military failure. That’s moral humiliation.

You quote drama. I’ll quote history, religion, and fact. You worship power. We believe in justice. You celebrate genocide. We stand for resistance.

So go ahead—mention me in your “religion section.” I will bring revelation, resistance, and reckoning.

Because unlike your shaky theology, ours doesn't bend to empires.
It stands with the oppressed—always.
And in the end, the side of justice always prevails.

23jerryking:
It's the fact that they're so emotional about everything. They can say all sort of dumb things just discredit whoever it is they're up against. How can somebody claim that USA and Israel are all afraid of Iran and yet still tell us Israel challenges Iran only because she has US backing?
Makes no sense at all

obedience4:
Mate your 100 drones have been successfully intercepted, Israel no be Ukraine🤣🤣, special thanks to our friends in Jordan and the US and British airforces.

Holla911:
From my pov, I think Iran deliberately refused to activate her air defense system. I believe they have a superior defence system now compared to that which isreal destroyed. Activating it at initial isreal attack will be foolish as isreal will not only know it's location but it's accuracy too.
Iran has weapons and defence system that will suprise many. First, they need excuse to strike at isreal and they've gotten it.
Subsequent attacks will be repelled when the escalation is activated.
Isreal should do away with satanyahu, that man will bring isreal much bloodshed.
Prayers up.