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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by TenQ: 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2025
CreativeOrbit:
Your question assumes that the dispute over land between Jews and Arabs in Gaza has a purely theological resolution rooted in divine land grants. But this is a mischaracterization from both a historical and Islamic perspective.

In Islam, the concept of land ownership is not based on ethnic inheritance but on justice ('adl), stewardship (khilafah), and fulfillment of moral and legal responsibilities. The Qur'an does not endorse eternal political entitlement to any land based on race or lineage. Instead, land is entrusted to those who uphold justice, worship God, and do not spread corruption. Allah says:

> "The earth belongs to Allah; He causes to inherit it whom He wills of His servants. And the [best] outcome is for the righteous."
(Qur’an 7:128)

This verse makes it clear that no group has a permanent, divine title deed to any land. It is not about being Jew, Arab, or otherwise—it is about moral and spiritual conduct. If any group violates justice and spreads oppression, their claim becomes void in the sight of God.

Furthermore, Islamic history records that Muslim rule over the Holy Land (including Gaza) came not through ethnic privilege but through the just governance of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab (RA), who was welcomed by many Christian and Jewish communities at the time due to the fairness of Islamic rule in contrast to previous Roman oppression.

The question also assumes that modern Israeli policies and occupation represent a continuation of biblical prophecy, which Islam categorically rejects. The Qur’an affirms that previous nations who broke their covenants with God lost their moral legitimacy:

> "And We said after Pharaoh to the Children of Israel, ā€˜Dwell in the land, and when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We shall bring you forth in mixed crowds.ā€™ā€
(Qur’an 17:104)

This verse does not grant an unconditional divine mandate. Rather, it is a temporary directive for a people under trial and subject to God's laws—much like other nations before them.

In conclusion, according to Islamic theology, no one has divine entitlement to land based on ethnicity. The land belongs to Allah and is a trust for those who uphold justice. The conflict in Gaza today is not about fulfilling divine prophecy but about confronting political oppression, illegal occupation, and humanitarian injustice—all of which Islam strongly condemns.
I asked
According to Allah, who was given the disputed land between the Jews and the Arabs of Gaza?

Did Allah anytime say he is withdrawing the land from the children of Israel?

Should we not defend and protect the words of Allah? Unfortunately, the consensus of your scholars is that the Jews are the Cursed ones...the Pig...the Monkeys: every name Allah did not call the Jews.

Choose between Allah and your scholars!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:29pm On Jun 14, 2025
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by slammintruth: 5:30pm On Jun 14, 2025
obedience4:
Something that is common knowledge, sorry this is were I leave you to wallow in the pool of ignorance.
Lol. He brought Google. Google actually told you the US. achieved air superiority over Iraq were over 70 of their aircraft were shot out of the skies in just 40days? Like I said I am a reality based man and don't do expert analysis, unless you wanna tell me the US. and Nato did not lose over 70 aircrafts and 50 Helicopers in that mission. 120 in total in just 40days. Lol....bye
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 5:31pm On Jun 14, 2025
Zhirinovsky literally predicted everything which has happened now. From Ukraine vs Russia, Iran vs Isreali

Iranian state-run media has confirmed strikes recently targeted the Phase 14 Refinery of the South Pars Gas Field, the Fajr Jam Natural Gas Refinery, and the Kangan LNG Port on the coast of the Persian Gulf, all in the Bushehr Province of Southern Iran.
It appears that Israel has begun strikes against Iran’s economic sector, primarily made up of natural gas and oil facilities along the Persian Gulf.

ā€œWe have more surprises coming up for Iran following the initial wave of strikes during Operation Rising Lion.ā€
Time for Iran to do the same
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by slammintruth: 5:39pm On Jun 14, 2025
maak400:
Russia and China not backing Iran is not good for the Global South. If US backed Israel is allowed to overrun Iran, they won't stop there, they will capture the whole middle east and extend their grip to Africa.

What is almighty Russia and China afraid of? This is the time for the Global South led by Russia and China to stand up to US and the west because this is a defining moment in history. The US empire is falling, hence the reason Trump is not holding back or showing restraints - the gloves are off now.
Who backed the Taliban that regained back their country? Or isn't that the reality in Kabul today after the whole collation of Nato forces? The reality of warfare should tell you Iran don't need Russia or China to get involved. Maybe smuggling of weapons but I doubt they even need that. You lots underrated the resilience, zeal and determination in the human body. Iran don't need Russia or China, they dont even need Pakistan and Turkey
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 5:40pm On Jun 14, 2025
WriteerNg:
⚔Netanyahu's plane is grounded in Athens after leaving Israel following the launch of the attack on Iran.
in netanyahu voice "trust iron-dome at your own pills"
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 5:41pm On Jun 14, 2025
maak400:
Russia and China not backing Iran is not good for the Global South. If US backed Israel is allowed to overrun Iran, they won't stop there, they will capture the whole middle east and extend their grip to Africa.

What is almighty Russia and China afraid of? This is the time for the Global South led by Russia and China to stand up to US and the west because this is a defining moment in history. The US empire is falling, hence the reason Trump is not holding back or showing restraints - the gloves are off now.
Contrary to your illusions, The US empire isn't failing not even in the next 100years.

China don't have what it takes for a force projection, it is not in their history and it can't start over night. That is not the Chinese doctrine, let them deal with the Asian hegemony first before facing the middle east.

Russia who happened to have such history with the west is bugged down in Ukraine. They are currently in a difficult situation to muster up any continuous effective support. But if they may, they can start by helping Iran with air defense system, that is if the effective IDF and US IRS intelligence did not even blow it on transit self.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 5:47pm On Jun 14, 2025
slammintruth:
Air superiority is 100% about size cos they will soon discover an area they can't fly in where all their planes will start dropping from the skies. That aside let me point out your errors:

1) Iraq is around 400k km² that's just about three of the biggest provinces in Iran

2) America gained air superiority in the war with Iraq since the Kurds and Shia simply didn't side with Saddam. And not counting America bribing top Sunnis officials not to fight. This is open source

3) If you disagree with Number 2 then let's take a stroll back to Operation Desert Storm in 1991. The US. and its massive allies never gained air superiority over Iraq for over 40 days of combat mission. Between 30 to 70 US. Aircraft were shot out of the skies even to the last minute of the war while their media were busy selling BOB (Bomb Over Baghdad) to the world. Their attempt at using helicopter to access places they thought they neutralized Air defense hidden and fired from tunnels ended in same fate for those choopers.

Iran haven't really activated AD fully yet, they are just allowing Isarel to roam freely. They likely got what they are looking for, and planes will soon start falling from the skies.

Then before I leave does Russia have air power over Ukraine?
Dumb last take.

At critical tension period you are trying to activate AD. Abi them dey try conserve fuel, cause wtf will you even switch off your AD in the first place?

No reasonable military will be trying to turn-on AD up to that critical moment not even Iran.
Iran has already had ineffective ADS, with far little numbers too with comparative protection.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by slammintruth: 5:53pm On Jun 14, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
Dumb last take.

At critical tension period you are trying to activate AD. Abi them dey try conserve fuel, cause wtf will you even switch off your AD in the first place?

No reasonable military will be trying to turn-on AD up to that critical moment not even Iran.
Iran has already had ineffective ADS, with far little numbers too with comparative protection.
Lol. Another lunch for me to chew. There is nothing critical at this stage. It is not even an all out war yet. You think those missiles flying out of Iran and hitting Tel Aviv are programmed or aimed to kill? When the real war starts there won't even be backdoor channels for talk. You offer talks based on reality on the ground. It is not a War dude so sit this out while I lecture you. Israel is even calling it an operation that will last 2 weeks. I have many decades in this field for someone in their mid 20's or early 30's who should be learning from the master to be having an opinion
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 5:55pm On Jun 14, 2025
slammintruth:
Lol. You don't understand warfare. After all the bombs dropped on Vietnam there were places American aircraft or helicopter hardly operated in. Same thing happened in Afghanistan, some mountainous areas that become a no go area. Talking about running out of stock, which is the western media hymn book they recite daily. I want tobelieve that's a joke from you. You are actually joking. A third world country cabn sustain and fight a war for 30yrs but Iran can't for two weeks? Let's both laugh at your joke
Vietnam had the full backing of the real Russia. Always receiving the need assistance in defense and attack.

Afghanistan is war against Taliban herders with no tangible structures, they are neither here or there.
Iran a full state can't assume the Taliban status! They are way lot of structure to target, way more economic, infrastructural and military impact!

Like I said before, except Iranian receive constant assistant from its allies (like the Vietnamese) they have way more to loose.
As the day draws by I see them loosing more leverage against Israel. I don't think they can hold on for long before becoming a proper sitting duck.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by slammintruth: 5:59pm On Jun 14, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
Vietnam had the full backing of the real Russia. Always receiving the need assistance in defense and attack.

Afghanistan is war against Taliban herders with no tangible structures, they are neither here or there.
Iran a full state can't assume the Taliban status! They are way lot of structure to target, way more economic, infrastructural and military impact!

Like I said before, except Iranian receive constant assistant from its allies (like the Vietnamese) they have way more to loose.
As the day draws by I see them loosing more leverage against Israel. I don't think they can hold on for long before becoming a proper sitting duck.
Lol. "Iran a state can't achieve the Taliban status!". I laugh again. Go read "The Art of War" or play some Immortal Technique rhymes. Isarel is even the bigger sitting duck that should be thankful to Iran for restraining Hezbollah...Hahahahaha
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:02pm On Jun 14, 2025
Mikel I have found your female Jewish captured by the Iranians, the only problem is that she is from Chile
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God save us from Iran and her propaganda

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 6:04pm On Jun 14, 2025
slammintruth:
Lol. Another lunch for me to chew. There is nothing critical at this stage. It is not even an all out war yet. You think those missiles flying out of Iran and hitting Tel Aviv are programmed or aimed to kill? When the real war starts there won't even be backdoor channels for talk. You offer talks based on reality on the ground. It is not a War dude so sit this out while I lecture you. Israel is even calling it an operation that will last 2 weeks. I have many decades in this field for someone in the mid 20's or early 30's who should be learning from the master to be having an opinion
This is as an all out can get any war between Israel and Iran. With Israel striking critical military installations and even nuclear Sites and Iran responding with ballistics missiles.

Over the decades these sceneries had always been envision. Nobody is envisioning a ground attack, and likely not going to be nuclear.

This is already a full blown war, it's just left for each parties to increase it lethality.

Dumb Iran can't afford to switch off AD, by the time dey destroys major installation finish watin AD won come dey protect?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:06pm On Jun 14, 2025
Gbadebo19 when you wanna post picture move it to a different folder, then edit it and post, the spam bot is crazy
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 6:06pm On Jun 14, 2025
slammintruth:
Lol. "Iran a state can't achieve the Taliban status!". I laugh again. Go read "The Art of War" or play some Immortal Technique rhymes. Isarel is even the bigger sitting duck that should be thankful to Iran for restraining Hezbollah...Hahahahaha
You too slow.
It's either you're a kid or lack constructive reasoning!
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 6:11pm On Jun 14, 2025
Vl3ly:
šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ‡®šŸ‡·šŸ‡®šŸ‡±āš”- "Are you saying that Israel killed the people you were negotiating with?" - CNN to President Trump.

"Well, they definitely didn’t die from the flu or the coronavirus. The people I dealt with are dead," - President Trump.
grin grin
He was not comfortable answering that question.
I don't know why seun bot has decided not to post my messages unless it is more than 40 words.
I want to believe nairaland is been bought and managed by western backers.
Seun is just a front
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by slammintruth: 6:11pm On Jun 14, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
This is as an all out can get any war between Israel and Iran. With Israel striking critical military installations and even nuclear strikes and Iran responding with ballistics missiles.
Over the decades these sceneries had always been envision. Nobody is envisioning a ground attack, and likely not going to be nuclear.

This is already a full blown war, it's just left for each parties to increase it lethality.
Dumb Iran can't afford to switch off AD, by the time dey destroys major installation finish watin AD won come dey protect?
What's your understanding of AD? Do you even know there are some shoulder fire AD ((MANPADS). There are even arguments between Israel and the US. media that they didn't do any serious damage yet and would need more strikes. You obviously don't know to do major damage you need your plane flying at low latitude? Did I just say MANPADS? Lol. I am gonna make you cry my young 'pupil'. There is a difference between reading wars and being a soldier on the frontline. You actually talking to one
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:12pm On Jun 14, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
This is as an all out can get any war between Israel and Iran. With Israel striking critical military installations and even nuclear strikes and Iran responding with ballistics missiles.
Over the decades these sceneries had always been envision. Nobody is envisioning a ground attack, and likely not going to be nuclear.

This is already a full blown war, it's just left for each parties to increase it lethality.
Dumb Iran can't afford to switch off AD, by the time dey destroys major installation finish watin AD won come dey protect?
Mate you get time sha, this are the same people that will tell you the war in Ukraine is not a war but a special operation.

The highest ranking military officer in Iran was killed, your nuclear facilities are getting destroyed, your economical facilities are now being targeted, one fellow is telling us they decided to turn off the air-defences and Iran is not at war.

The largest naval war in Ww2,is the battle of midway in the Pacific, two battle carriers groups the US Navy and the imperial Japanese Navy, both carriers groups never saw each other, they both were attacking each other with planes, because both naval ships didn't see each other it not a war.


Modified, Someone is bragging because he knows what portable shoulder air defences are??
Something that has been available for donkey years
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 6:12pm On Jun 14, 2025
obedience4:
Mikel I have found your female Jewish captured by the Iranians, the only problem is that she is from Chile
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God save us from Iran and her propaganda
Yet again. This is about the 1000th time you're busting their propaganda šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:23pm On Jun 14, 2025
šŸ‡®šŸ‡·šŸ‡®šŸ‡±āš”- "We were able to shoot down equipment belonging to the Zionist entity that was said to be undetectable by radar," - Masoud Pezeshkian, President of Iran.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:24pm On Jun 14, 2025
šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øāš”ļø- Melissa Hortman, Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives, has been assassinated alongside her husband. State Senator John Hoffman was also targeted and injured but is expected to survive.

Suspect in the shootings left a manifesto listing other lawmakers and officials.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:26pm On Jun 14, 2025
šŸ‡®šŸ‡·šŸ‡®šŸ‡±āš”- Maxar's satellite imagery shows no damage to Iran's Fardow Nuclear Facility.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 6:27pm On Jun 14, 2025
CreativeOrbit:
Your statement is a textbook example of selective outrage, technical misdirection, and geopolitical hypocrisy masquerading as moral concern. Let’s address it point by point with clarity.

First, your reference to CEP (Circular Error Probable) is misleading. Precision in missile technology is not equivalent to moral superiority. A war crime does not become excusable simply because it was committed with a 1-meter accuracy. If anything, deliberately striking civilian infrastructure with high-precision weapons only underscores intent—making the crime more deliberate, not less. Israel’s consistent targeting of residential towers, hospitals, schools, and refugee camps with so-called "precision" weapons does not exonerate it—it indicts it.

Second, your claim that Iran’s ballistic missile use equates to deliberate targeting of civilians ignores both strategic reality and context. Iran, like any sovereign state under threat, develops missile capability primarily for deterrence—particularly against a hostile nuclear-armed state like Israel, which has repeatedly demonstrated willingness to assassinate scientists, bomb sovereign nations, and violate international law with impunity. You want to moralize about warheads while defending a state with undeclared nuclear weapons, zero NPT compliance, and a long history of collective punishment?

Third, the myth that ā€œHamas hides behind civiliansā€ has been thoroughly debunked. Gaza is one of the most densely populated territories on Earth, under total siege. To claim that resistance groups ā€œhideā€ among civilians is to ignore the brutal fact that in Gaza, there is no place that is not ā€œcivilianā€ā€”and it is Israel’s siege and blockade that created this reality. Regardless, international law is clear: the presence of combatants does not justify indiscriminate attacks on civilians or civilian infrastructure.

Fourth, your portrayal of the IDF as morally superior due to ā€œprecision strikesā€ is both disingenuous and offensive. Israeli warplanes have bombed journalists, UN shelters, ambulances, and apartment complexes. The IDF’s so-called ā€œwarningsā€ are often meaningless gestures when followed by large-scale destruction and high civilian casualties. Your reference to ā€œdud bombsā€ and ā€œevacuation noticesā€ is propaganda that ignores the impossibility of escape in a besieged, closed-off strip of land with nowhere to run.

Finally, Iran and its allies—Hezbollah, Ansarullah, and others—are not engaging in random violence. They are responding to decades of occupation, apartheid, aggression, and foreign-backed terrorism. They are operating under the logic of deterrence and asymmetric resistance. If your concern is truly civilian casualties, then you should first condemn the root causes: Zionist expansionism, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and the systemic violence that made armed resistance a necessity—not a choice.

In conclusion, moral outrage loses all credibility when it is weaponized selectively. If you wish to be taken seriously, start by applying your standards universally—to all sides, not just those you oppose politically or ideologically. Otherwise, your argument is not a defense of law or ethics—it’s a defense of power disguised as principle.
Would be nice if you let us know where Hamas rockets are. Whether kindergarten children aspire to eliminate Israel in totality , not just getting their land. What "From the river to the sea "really means.
Any premises being used for military operations becomes a legitimate target, whether it's a high rise building with unarmed spotters on the roof passing intelligence.
Aran nations banished all their Jewry after 1948,who were settled in modern day Israel. I doubt you know that.
Those who fled British Mandate Palestine in 1947/48 should have had no problem getting settled by the fellow Arabs. Instead they became Palestinians ,got UNRWA to support them who accord them permanent refugee status including their grandchildren.
I support Israel because their enemies are genocidal.Where Mein Kampf is found in many a homestead.
The Palestinian ultimate aim is to exterminate every Jews in Israel. To do that they pretend they want to peace , what's known as Taqqiya.
How do you make peace sign people who pray for your death 5 times a day?
I understand the Palestinian mentality,you clearly song and you have fallen for their lies
Not that Israel is innocent of crimes though,Tell me how many armies you know of who fight with their own lawyers scrutinizing everything.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:29pm On Jun 14, 2025
Israeli forces struck Iran’s South Pars Phase 14 refinery, one of the world’s largest natural gas extraction facilities.

IRGC outlet Tasnim reports an explosion and fire at Iran’s Fajr Jam Gas Refinery. The facility processes up to 125 million cubic meters of gas per day.

Iran will cry for years.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:30pm On Jun 14, 2025
šŸ‡®šŸ‡±šŸ‡®šŸ‡·āš”ļø- IAEA activity to be suspended entirely in Iran
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:31pm On Jun 14, 2025
obedience4:
Mikel I have found your female Jewish captured by the Iranians, the only problem is that she is from Chile
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God save us from Iran and her propaganda
Jesus Christ. These people just want to feel good by force. 🤣. Watch out, they will come and tell us she has dual citizenship 🤣
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