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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:31pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
is these Gaza or Israel Iran has changed the middle East narrative, Iran is the only regional power in the middle East 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by nahr(f): 8:31pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
The quotes and comments from people on my twitter timeline is really cracking me up rn. Everyone is piling on Israel. PS: Is it only me but Seun's bots keep on deleting my comments. I was also suspended the last time for no reason. What does it mean that I am spamming the thread when I am just commenting on the thread?
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:33pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
Hebrew media reports a wave of Iranian drones. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 8:34pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
⚡️Israeli Channel 12: Israel will escalate its attacks in the coming hours against Iranian nuclear facilities, military industries, missile launchers, and research and development centers. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 8:43pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
basilico:Your response reveals a troubling reliance on historical distortions, one-sided narratives, and reductionist tropes rather than sincere engagement with facts or international law. Let me address your points systematically: 1. “Where are the Hamas rockets?” / “From the River to the Sea” You cite slogans and intentions while ignoring context. "From the river to the sea" is interpreted differently across the spectrum—some use it as a call for equality and the dismantling of apartheid policies, not the extermination of Jews. Conflating political slogans with genocidal intentions is intellectually dishonest and serves only to demonize an entire population. If your concern is civilian safety, ask yourself: Where are the Israeli missiles aimed? Documented human rights reports by the UN, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch consistently cite Israeli strikes on homes, hospitals, and refugee camps. These are not Hamas headquarters. And the presence of a combatant does not justify obliterating entire civilian areas—international law forbids it. 2. “Military use of civilian structures makes them legitimate targets” This is not how international humanitarian law works. Civilian infrastructure does not become fair game simply because combatants may be nearby. Proportionality and distinction are legal requirements in warfare. Bombing an entire residential tower because an unarmed “spotter” is present is neither lawful nor moral. Your argument implies collective punishment—a war crime. 3. “Arab nations expelled Jews, so Israel was justified in its actions” You are trying to justify ethnic cleansing with unrelated injustices. Two wrongs do not make a right. Even if Jews faced discrimination elsewhere, that does not legitimize the displacement and dispossession of native Palestinians. Moreover, many Arab Jews were exploited by Zionist elites and coerced into emigration as part of nation-building propaganda, a fact Israeli historians themselves have acknowledged. 4. “Palestinians should’ve been settled by Arab states” This is a common deflection. Refugees have the right to return to their homes under international law (UN Resolution 194). Palestinians did not abandon their homes voluntarily—they were ethnically cleansed in 1948 and again in 1967. To suggest they be absorbed elsewhere is like telling a robbery victim to just move on while the thief lives in his house. 5. “Palestinians are genocidal” / “They pray for Jewish death” This is a deeply prejudiced and offensive claim. Islamic prayer includes no such incitement. In fact, the Qur'an commands justice, even with those we disagree with: “Do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just: that is nearer to righteousness.” (Qur'an 5: ![]() If some individuals or fringe groups express hatred, that is not representative of the entire population or Islam. By contrast, top Israeli officials have made open calls for the destruction of Gaza and the denial of Palestinian identity—why is that not called genocidal? 6. “Taqqiya” / Accusing Muslims of deception The invocation of taqiyya here is not only ignorant but bigoted. Taqiyya was a specific doctrine historically used by persecuted Shia minorities to conceal their faith under threat of death—it has nothing to do with Palestinians or lying in diplomacy. Throwing this term around as if all Muslims are inherently deceptive is an Islamophobic stereotype, not a serious argument. 7. “Israel uses lawyers in warfare” This is often cited as proof of Israeli morality, but legal consultation does not absolve actions. A war crime remains a war crime, even if done with legal advice. The documented reality is that Israeli strikes have killed thousands of civilians, including women, children, and aid workers, with impunity. In Conclusion: You support a state that: Holds 2 million people in an open-air prison. Enforces an apartheid regime, as documented by major human rights organizations. Engages in collective punishment and indiscriminate bombardment. Yet you accuse those resisting this oppression of genocidal intent. Your moral compass seems to point only in one direction. If you truly seek justice, apply your standards evenly. Don’t reduce Palestinians to caricatures and justify state terror under the banner of defense. Justice requires more than tribal loyalty—it requires intellectual honesty and moral consistency. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:52pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
nahr:It happens to other nl users too. I think there are words that trigger the bot. The good side is that the ban or suspension does not last. 30mins & you're back posting. The fourthy characters rule is what I don't like |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 8:54pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
slammintruth:the attack on Iran by Israel was not a sneck attack, Israel was not negotiating with Iran the US is. The US was only holding Israel back during their negotiations with Iran. You don't need to have fighter jet cover the whole sky to have air superiority over another person air space. Israel currently have air superiority over some part of Iran if not all. Russia does not have air superiority over Ukraine. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 8:56pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
TenQ:Your reply is built on misinterpretation, selective citation, and deliberate theological distortion. Let’s address it point by point, clearly and honestly: 1. "According to Allah, who was given the land?" Yes, the Qur’an acknowledges that Allah granted the Children of Israel the Holy Land in the past—as a conditional trust, not an eternal entitlement. That grant was contingent on righteousness, not ethnicity. Allah explicitly states: > “And We said to the Children of Israel after him, ‘Dwell in the land, and when the final promise comes to pass, We will bring you forth in groups.’” (Qur’an 17:104) This verse is not an eternal land grant. It refers to a temporary dwelling followed by judgment. More importantly, the Qur’an never grants permanent possession of any land to any group unconditionally. Instead, Allah says: > “That land is for those who fear standing before Me and fear My punishment.” (Qur’an 26:63) So to answer your question directly: Allah entrusts the land to the righteous, not to a race. And if those entrusted with it become corrupt, their claim is revoked—as happened repeatedly in the Qur’an itself with earlier nations, including the Children of Israel when they broke their covenants (Qur’an 5:13). 2. "Did Allah ever say He is withdrawing the land?" Absolutely. The Qur’an mentions several times that the Children of Israel lost divine favor due to rebellion, arrogance, and corruption: > “So for their breaking of the covenant, We cursed them and made their hearts hard…” (Qur’an 5:13) > “...and they were covered with humiliation and misery, and they drew upon themselves the wrath of Allah. That was because they disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the prophets unjustly.” (Qur’an 2:61) So yes, divine favor and land grants were revoked—not by arbitrary decision, but by their own betrayal of divine commands. Just as other nations were destroyed or removed for injustice, so too were they. Islam teaches that no people are above divine law, not even Muslims. 3. "Should we not defend and protect the words of Allah?" Exactly. Which is why we don’t distort Allah’s words into political slogans to justify apartheid and military occupation. Protecting the Qur’an means understanding it in full, not cherry-picking phrases to suit a geopolitical agenda. 4. "Your scholars call Jews pigs and monkeys." This is a common misquote rooted in propaganda. The Qur’an never calls all Jews "pigs and monkeys"—that is a lie. It refers specifically to a particular transgressing group among the Children of Israel who violated the Sabbath. The verse says: > “When they transgressed against the command of their Lord, We said to them: ‘Be apes, despised.’” (Qur’an 7:166) This was a punishment for a specific sinful act, not a racial or blanket condemnation. Islam does not teach hatred of Jews as a people. In fact, Jews lived safely for centuries under Islamic governance—in Medina under the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, and later in Andalusian Spain and the Ottoman Empire, especially when Christian Europe was persecuting them. You claim we should choose between “Allah and our scholars.” That’s a false dichotomy. Our scholars derive from the Qur’an and Sunnah. What we reject is fabricated narratives and hateful propaganda being disguised as religious inquiry. In Conclusion: According to Islam: Land is not an eternal entitlement to any race. The Qur’an condemns injustice and corruption, regardless of who commits it. Jews are not cursed as a people—only specific wrongdoers were punished for specific sins. Misrepresenting Qur’anic verses to promote Zionist occupation is not defending the words of Allah—it is betraying them. Your attempt to use Islamic scripture as a defense for modern-day colonization and displacement is not only theologically shallow—it is intellectually dishonest. If you're serious about honoring Allah’s words, you must uphold justice, not political convenience. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 8:58pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
BREAKING: MAJOR IRAN ATTACK ON ISRAEL COMING |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 9:00pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
BREAKING: THE IDF HOME FRONT COMMAND INSTRUCTS CIVILIANS NATIONWIDE TO REMAIN CLOSE TO BOMB SHELTERS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE Israel anticipates a ballistic missile attack from Iran.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 9:02pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:04pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
CreativeOrbit:I'll respond later but how do you deal with a people who want you dead who teach their kids to hate you. Who reward those who kill you. How you deal with them. I don't fall for long winded essays ignoring direct answers. Fact is Palestinians and Iranians are genocidal. They want no peaceful coexistence. In the event of a Palestinian state Abu Mazhen ( the sponsor of 1972 Munich massacre, whose Russian PhD dissertation was on denying the Holocaust ) has stated that a Palestinian state will be judenrein. Abu Mazhen is Mohammed Abbas, the Palestinian president. Think this is now going deep into religious perspectives , that's why I prefer another section. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 9:08pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
Wow about 2 waves was sent at the same times in the next few minutes say 15m expecting some explosive in Israel... Get ready 😁 |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 9:11pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
basilico:Your response once again reveals a shallow understanding of Islamic theology, a reliance on unverified quotes, and a deeply prejudiced assumption that Muslims—particularly Shi’a clerics—are inherently irrational or apocalyptic. Let’s break it down: 1. “Khamenei said the 12th Imam will return in his time.” Even if such a statement was made—which is doubtful and widely disputed—you’re either deliberately misrepresenting it or don’t understand what it means. Belief in the Mahdi (a savior figure) is a theological hope, not a foreign policy doctrine. Just as Christians await the return of Jesus, Muslims believe the Mahdi will come at a time only Allah knows—not through human manipulation, war, or nuclear chaos. The claim that Shi’a Muslims would initiate global nuclear war to “hasten the Mahdi” is a baseless myth, recycled from the same Islamophobic fearmongering that justified the war on Iraq. It is not supported by any Shi’a religious text or rational political analysis. Iran’s entire foreign policy has been pragmatic, not messianic. You’re projecting fantasies, not analyzing facts. 2. “Ayatollahs should never get the bomb.” Let’s be clear: Iran does not have the bomb—and according to U.S., Israeli, and IAEA intelligence, has not been pursuing one since at least 2003. The entire nuclear hysteria around Iran is built on hypotheticals and double standards. Meanwhile, Israel—armed with over 80 nuclear warheads, outside the NPT, and with a history of aggressive regional wars—is somehow exempt from scrutiny. That’s not a concern for you because your real issue isn’t proliferation—it’s Islamic autonomy. 3. “Public pronouncements are lies.” That’s a convenient accusation when you want to dismiss diplomacy and ignore treaties. If Iranian officials lie, then why did they comply with the JCPOA (2015 nuclear deal), allow 24/7 IAEA inspections, and abide by every clause—until the U.S. violated the deal first under Trump? What’s more, unlike North Korea, Iran has never conducted a nuclear test, never withdrawn from the NPT, and never threatened to use nuclear weapons first. You say you trust Kim Jong Un more than Ayatollahs—yet it's Iran, not North Korea, that has always kept the door open for diplomacy. Your logic is inverted. 4. “Kim has everything to lose; Ayatollahs have everything to gain.” This is where your argument collapses under the weight of bias. Iran’s leadership governs a nation of 85 million people, a civilization over 2,500 years old, with deep cultural, scientific, and religious heritage. To claim they would annihilate it all for a messianic fantasy is not only absurd—it’s racist. Iran’s deterrent doctrine—like Pakistan’s—is defensive, not offensive. And unlike the U.S. or Israel, it has not invaded, colonized, or nuked anyone. The Ayatollah doesn’t want destruction. He wants independence—and that, in your worldview, is the real threat. In Conclusion: Your fear is not based on facts. It's based on the refusal to accept that a Muslim-majority country can possess advanced capabilities and still act rationally. You’ve replaced historical memory with hysteria, and theology with propaganda. If you oppose nuclear proliferation, then apply your outrage equally: Condemn Israel’s secret arsenal. Hold the U.S. accountable for Hiroshima and Iraq. Acknowledge that Iran, despite constant threats and sanctions, has shown more restraint than any Western nuclear state. Stop confusing faith with fanaticism, and resistance with recklessness. The Ayatollah doesn’t want to start Armageddon. He wants to prevent another colonial one. And after seeing what happened to Iraq, Libya, and Palestine, any nation that refuses to disarm unilaterally is not dangerous—it’s rational. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 9:22pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
basilico:Your response is built entirely on selective outrage, historical distortion, and a refusal to engage with the root causes of conflict. Let me respond directly, without “long-winded essays”—just facts and principle. 1. “How do you deal with people who want you dead?” You ask this as if Israel is a passive victim. In reality, Israel is the only side in this conflict with: a fully equipped military, nuclear weapons, a decades-long occupation of another people’s land, and a documented record of ethnic cleansing, blockades, and collective punishment. Palestinians did not wake up one day and decide to “hate” anyone. They were dispossessed, displaced, and dehumanized. The occupation—not religion, not race—is the source of resistance. When you steal someone’s home and bomb their children, you don’t get to act shocked when they resist. 2. “They teach their kids to hate you.” And what does Israel teach its children? That Arabs are “two-legged beasts”? That Gaza must be “flattened”? That Palestinians are “terrorists” from birth? Israeli textbooks, politicians, and settlers are filled with hate speech, genocidal rhetoric, and open calls for expulsion. Extremism exists on both sides, but only one side occupies, bombs, imprisons, and bulldozes the other daily. 3. “Palestinians and Iranians are genocidal.” This is projection at its finest. The real genocide is the one backed by American weapons and carried out by Israeli jets—tens of thousands of civilians killed, including children, journalists, and doctors. Iran’s support for Palestine is based on opposing occupation and apartheid—not religious hatred. If you truly oppose genocide, start by condemning those who commit it with airstrikes, siege, and illegal settlements—not those who resist it. 4. “Abbas wants a Judenrein state.” This is another distortion. Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) has publicly supported a two-state solution, and has long cooperated with Israeli security forces. You’re citing a dubious mistranslation of a comment allegedly made decades ago, taken out of context. Meanwhile, it is Israeli politicians who regularly call for wiping Gaza off the map, or transferring all Arabs out of “Greater Israel.” So if your standard for outrage is rhetoric, apply it evenly. And for the record: Jews have always lived under Muslim rule throughout history—in Baghdad, Cairo, Cordoba, Istanbul, and yes, even Palestine—without persecution. The Zionist project is not synonymous with Judaism, and opposition to Israel’s actions is not antisemitism. In Conclusion: You want a direct answer? Here it is: Justice first, peace second. No people under occupation is obligated to love their oppressor. The way to “deal with” Palestinians is not through mass punishment or dehumanization—it’s through ending the occupation, recognizing their right to self-determination, and applying international law equally to all. If you want to be taken seriously, stop pretending that resistance is genocide while ignoring the decades of state violence that made resistance inevitable. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:26pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
⚡Incredible Footage Shows Iranian Missiles in Barrage Toward Israel.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 9:27pm On Jun 14, 2025*. Modified: 10:02pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
This man does not know American public have woken up to see the evil and atrocity he is leading Israel to perpetrate even at this stage Donald Trump won't risk his presidency to save your ass. It's a matter of time and Americans will hit the streets and start demanding Donald Trump's resignation. Americans are tired of military adventurism.
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:30pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
⚡IRON DOME? THAAD? IRON BEAM? DAVID'S SLING? PATRIOT? IS THERE ANY AD?
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:30pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
⚡Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister: We will take new measures at our nuclear facilities that we will not report to the IAEA. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:31pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
⚡Iran says it will target US military bases in the Middle East in coming days. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 9:38pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
obedience4:Not mind the guy na propaganda just full him brain. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 9:38pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
slammintruth:To read about it abi, so you can reply with half baked incoherent opinion. Sir you need to take a chill |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 9:40pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
Vic2023:.. Would not be out of place, but the real question is will the missile hit its intended target. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 9:43pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
BREAKING: HAIFA ON FIRE
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 9:44pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
BREAKING: Fire and smoke seen rising from the Haifa Oil Refinery in Northern Israel after ballistic missiles hit
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| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:44pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
WritterNg:i don't think this rhetoric is really necessary |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 9:44pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
dermmy:True Israel is gradually losing the public goodwill and rightfully so. |
| Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 9:58pm On Jun 14, 2025 |
obedience4:Vic2023 already confirmed that he is VI3Iy back in January. How or why you guys are trying to make news out of it in June, five months later, tells me something about your capacity to reason: https://www.nairaland.com/7481160/russia-ukraine-war-world-news-weapons/2960#133746759 |
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