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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jun 14, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
True Israel is gradually losing the public goodwill and rightfully so.
I think Isreal should find a way they can sort all these other than violence
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 10:13pm On Jun 14, 2025
NEW WAVE OF MISSILES ABOUT TO HIT ISRAEL
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:16pm On Jun 14, 2025
The entire Shahran oil depot is completely engulfed in flames right now
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:17pm On Jun 14, 2025
Israel na GOAT. As Iran dey collect, na so Houthi self dey get serviced.🇾🇪 Mohammed Al-Amari, Chief of Staff and second-in-command of the Houthis, was reportedly killed less than an hour ago in Yemen in an Israeli strike.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 10:18pm On Jun 14, 2025
Wow missile direct Hit 🎯😯 so fast

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Floky215: 10:19pm On Jun 14, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Israel na GOAT. As Iran dey collect, na so Houthi self dey get serviced.🇾🇪 Mohammed Al-Amari, Chief of Staff and second-in-command of the Houthis, was reportedly killed less than an hour ago in Yemen in an Israeli strike.
His own deputy is also part of the people virginalized, more names would be released later as they were having a meeting involving multiple people... grin grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:23pm On Jun 14, 2025
Iran is now relying on the remnants of the terror groups it has been sponsoring. Trust Israel, it has been double salvo. Abdul-Malik al-Houthi, leader of the Houthi militia in Yemen! This one too has joined the roll call for virgins. 🤣

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 10:25pm On Jun 14, 2025
[quote author=mikael11 post=135751747]Wow missile direct Hit 🎯😯 so fast

......... This is fire......... More of this pls
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 10:29pm On Jun 14, 2025
More and more planes continue to enter Iran currently
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 10:31pm On Jun 14, 2025
The war is pointless if u ask me because Iran could have made a deal...

Maybe not a good deal but if it works
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by TenQ: 10:31pm On Jun 14, 2025
CreativeOrbit:
Your reply is built on misinterpretation, selective citation, and deliberate theological distortion. Let’s address it point by point, clearly and honestly:

1. "According to Allah, who was given the land?"

Yes, the Qur’an acknowledges that Allah granted the Children of Israel the Holy Land in the past—as a conditional trust, not an eternal entitlement. That grant was contingent on righteousness, not ethnicity. Allah explicitly states:

> “And We said to the Children of Israel after him, ‘Dwell in the land, and when the final promise comes to pass, We will bring you forth in groups.’”
(Qur’an 17:104)

This verse is not an eternal land grant. It refers to a temporary dwelling followed by judgment. More importantly, the Qur’an never grants permanent possession of any land to any group unconditionally. Instead, Allah says:

> “That land is for those who fear standing before Me and fear My punishment.”
(Qur’an 26:63)

So to answer your question directly: Allah entrusts the land to the righteous, not to a race. And if those entrusted with it become corrupt, their claim is revoked—as happened repeatedly in the Qur’an itself with earlier nations, including the Children of Israel when they broke their covenants (Qur’an 5:13).
The Land was given to the Children of Israel!

CreativeOrbit:
2. "Did Allah ever say He is withdrawing the land?"
Absolutely. The Qur’an mentions several times that the Children of Israel lost divine favor due to rebellion, arrogance, and corruption:
> “So for their breaking of the covenant, We cursed them and made their hearts hard…”
(Qur’an 5:13)
> “...and they were covered with humiliation and misery, and they drew upon themselves the wrath of Allah. That was because they disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the prophets unjustly.”
(Qur’an 2:61)

So yes, divine favor and land grants were revoked—not by arbitrary decision, but by their own betrayal of divine commands. Just as other nations were destroyed or removed for injustice, so too were they. Islam teaches that no people are above divine law, not even Muslims.
Let me help you with some Tafsirs to enlighten you . Interestingly, they seem to be unanimous about its relation to the end times. Allah never said that he is withdrawing the land!

Quran 17.104 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And We said unto the Children of Israel after him) after his destruction: (Dwell in the land) the land of Jordan and Palestine; (but when the promise of the Hereafter) when resurrection after death; and it is also said that this means: when Jesus son of Mary descends (cometh to pass we shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations.)


Quran 17.104 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
And after him We said to the Children of Israel, ‘Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter, namely, the Hour, comes to pass, We shall bring you [gathered] in mixed company’, all together, you and them .

Quran 17.101-104 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
(thus We caused the Children of Israel to inherit them. ) (26:59). Here Allah says:
(And We said to the Children of Israel after him: "Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near, We shall bring you altogether as mixed crowd.'') meaning, all of you, you and your enemies. Ibn `Abbas, Qatadah and Ad-Dahhak said, "It means all together.''

So, you can see that the promise of Allah for the Jews to dwell in the land is till the end time!

CreativeOrbit:
3. "Should we not defend and protect the words of Allah?"
Exactly. Which is why we don’t distort Allah’s words into political slogans to justify apartheid and military occupation. Protecting the Qur’an means understanding it in full, not cherry-picking phrases to suit a geopolitical agenda.
Allah says he has given them the land and he would gather them together with their enemies at the last days!

CreativeOrbit:
4. "Your scholars call Jews pigs and monkeys."
This is a common misquote rooted in propaganda. The Qur’an never calls all Jews "pigs and monkeys"—that is a lie. It refers specifically to a particular transgressing group among the Children of Israel who violated the Sabbath. The verse says:
> “When they transgressed against the command of their Lord, We said to them: ‘Be apes, despised.’”
(Qur’an 7:166)
This was a punishment for a specific sinful act, not a racial or blanket condemnation. Islam does not teach hatred of Jews as a people. In fact, Jews lived safely for centuries under Islamic governance—in Medina under the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, and later in Andalusian Spain and the Ottoman Empire, especially when Christian Europe was persecuting them.

You claim we should choose between “Allah and our scholars.” That’s a false dichotomy. Our scholars derive from the Qur’an and Sunnah. What we reject is fabricated narratives and hateful propaganda being disguised as religious inquiry.
In Conclusion:
According to Islam:
Land is not an eternal entitlement to any race.
The Qur’an condemns injustice and corruption, regardless of who commits it.
Jews are not cursed as a people—only specific wrongdoers were punished for specific sins.

Misrepresenting Qur’anic verses to promote Zionist occupation is not defending the words of Allah—it is betraying them.
Your attempt to use Islamic scripture as a defense for modern-day colonization and displacement is not only theologically shallow—it is intellectually dishonest. If you're serious about honoring Allah’s words, you must uphold justice, not political convenience.
Tafsir Quran 1.7 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
....(Not (the way) of those who earned Your anger, nor of those who went astray) meaning guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom you have bestowed Your grace, that is, the people of guidance, sincerity and obedience to Allah and His Messengers. They are the people who adhere to Allah's commandments and refrain from committing what He has prohibited. But, help us to avoid the path of those whom Allah is angry with, whose intentions are corrupt, who know the truth, yet deviate from it. Also, help us avoid the path of those who were led astray, who lost the true knowledge and, as a result, are wandering in misguidance, unable to find the correct path. Allah asserted that the two paths He described here are both misguided when He repeated the negation `not'. These two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why `anger' descended upon the Jews, while being described as `led astray' is more appropriate of the Christians. Those who know, but avoid implementing the truth, deserve the anger, unlike those who are ignorant. The Christians want to seek the true knowledge, but are unable to find it because they did not seek it from its proper resources.
This is why they were led astray. We should also mention that both the Christians and the Jews have earned the anger and are led astray, but the anger is one of the attributes more particular of the Jews. Allah said about the Jews,
(Those (Jews) who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath) (5:60).
The attribute that the Christians deserve most is that of being led astray, just as Allah said about them,

(Who went astray before and who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the right path) (5:77).
There are several Hadiths and reports from the Salaf on this subject. .....
(Those who have earned the anger are the Jews and those who are led astray are the Christians.)''
This Hadith was also collected by At-Tirmidhi who said that it is Hasan Gharib.
...... (The way of those upon whom you have bestowed Your grace), when He mentioned His favor. On mentioning anger, Allah said,
(Not (that) of those who earned Your anger), without mentioning the subject, although it is He Who has sent down the anger on them, just as Allah stated in another Ayah,

(Have you (O Muhammad ) not seen those (hypocrites) who take as friends a people upon whom is the wrath of Allah (i.e. Jews)) (58:14).
Also, Allah relates the misguidance of those who indulged in it, although they were justly misguided according to Allah's appointed destiny. For instance, Allah said, (He whom Allah guides, he is the rightly-guided; but he whom He sends astray, for him you will find no Wali (guiding friend) to lead him (to the right path)) (18:17)....
....... (The Jews have never envied you more than for your saying the Salam (Islamic greeting) and for saying Amin.)



I guess you can explain the Quran 7:166 , Quran 2:65, Quran 4:163–16 and Quran 5:60
Who are the Monkeys and Pigs according to the Quran?
Who were those enjoined to keep the Sabbath?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 10:34pm On Jun 14, 2025
This has to be hypersonic



My content is original wallahi
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 10:34pm On Jun 14, 2025
—❗️🇮🇱 BREAKING: Ronen Bar, head of Israel's internal intelligence organization Shin Bet, has resigned
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 10:39pm On Jun 14, 2025
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:40pm On Jun 14, 2025
Iran's energy infrastructure situation right now:

1. Iran's South Pars gas field struck shutting down 12 million cubic meters of gas production per day (This is approximately 1.57 billion dollars per day) shut down in revenue for Iran. For comparison, Saudi Aramco fetches 1.2 billion dollars per day according to latest data.

2. Shahran oil field in western Tehran on fire after Israeli strike

3. Israeli strikes hit 2 oil depots in Tehran setting them on fire

4. Iran says production at world's largest gas field has been partially suspended due to Israeli strike

5. Multiple oil refineries in Iran are reportedly on fire

Iran currently produces 3.3 million barrels of crude oil per day, or ~3.5% of global supply.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Jovi10: 10:40pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
The war is pointless if u ask me because Iran could have made a deal...

Maybe not a good deal but if it works
Iran should make a deal with who? Why did Israel attack them first?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 10:46pm On Jun 14, 2025
Jovi10:
Iran should make a deal with who? Why did Israel attack them first?
the attack was coming Israel Iran war has been happening for years now.

Iran wage proxy war on Israel and wanted to secure Syria so they can use Syria to launch a war at Israel.

But it failed because of hamas and Hezbollah miscalculation.

See forget propaganda both countries are heavily armed... So if Iran don't go for that deal.. they will be receive heavy hits too.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:48pm On Jun 14, 2025
[quote author=mikael11 post=135751747]Wow missile direct Hit 🎯😯 so fast

are hypersonic missiles. No doubt. This is getting scarier.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 10:48pm On Jun 14, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
This has to be hypersonic



My content is original wallahi
mad woh this is like a fiction movie ,it landed like something from no where. The people firing those missiles are real professionals they did the calculation for when ballistic missiles will arrive and when to fire the hypersonic missile so that the can arrive at the same time that is really brilliant
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:48pm On Jun 14, 2025
By the time Israel is done with these mullahs, they will struggle to produce 10,000 barrels of oil per day. 🤣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:49pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
the attack was coming Israel Iran war has been happening for years now.

Iran wage proxy war on Israel and wanted to secure Syria so they can use Syria to launch a war at Israel.

But it failed because of hamas and Hezbollah miscalculation.
Don't even mind him. Remember Trump gave Iran 60 days to make a deal. Israel started the strike on day 61 which was yesterday.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Hamxas: 10:50pm On Jun 14, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Israel na GOAT. As Iran dey collect, na so Houthi self dey get serviced.🇾🇪 Mohammed Al-Amari, Chief of Staff and second-in-command of the Houthis, was reportedly killed less than an hour ago in Yemen in an Israeli strike.
U can masturbate to this, this is from the houthi military wing typical isreali agent quick to spread fake news

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FXtrader2025: 10:52pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
The war is pointless if u ask me because Iran could have made a deal...

Maybe not a good deal but if it works
Iran is a sovereign nation that can decide for itself.
Did Israel ask anyone for permission before acquiring illegal nukes?

Russia has no Right to challenge Ukraines Nato ambitions but Israel and the West are Challenging Iranian Nuclear ambitions
Is that not hypocritical?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 10:52pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
The war is pointless if u ask me because Iran could have made a deal...

Maybe not a good deal but if it works
Iran made a deal, and Trump singlehandedly canceled the deal. So, stop trying to feign morality by claiming Iran refused to a "make a deal" and focus your attention on Trump who canceled the deal.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Allthelight(m): 10:54pm On Jun 14, 2025
shoodboi2:
Iran made a deal, and Trump singlehandedly canceled the deal. So, stop trying to feign morality by claiming Iran refused to a "make a deal" and focus your attention on Trump who canceled the deal.
so it is America that is getting hit ?

Trump does not like the deal... It is left for Iran to make a better deal
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 10:55pm On Jun 14, 2025
Multiple accounts are saying the head of Shinbet has resigned.

This is an original content
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FXtrader2025: 10:56pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
the attack was coming Israel Iran war has been happening for years now.

Iran wage proxy war on Israel and wanted to secure Syria so they can use Syria to launch a war at Israel.

But it failed because of hamas and Hezbollah miscalculation.

See forget propaganda both countries are heavily armed... So if Iran don't go for that deal.. they will be receive heavy hits too.
Well they are willing to Receive the heavy punches are the Child killers ready??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 11:02pm On Jun 14, 2025
Allthelight:
so it is America that is getting hit ?

Trump does not like the deal... It is left for Iran to make a better deal
Since you are so interested in a deal, go and make a deal with the US and bring it here for signing. Then we will all take it to Iran together 😒
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:02pm On Jun 14, 2025
⚡According to preliminary reports, the Haifa Oil Refineries have been struck. The refinery, operated by the BAZAN Group, is Israel's largest oil processing facility, located in the Haifa Bay area.

It processes approximately 9.8 million tons of crude oil annually and produces a wide range of refined products for industrial, transportation, and agricultural use.

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