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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 7:45am On Jun 15, 2025
In the early 2000s we were reminded daily on news media about the presence of WMDs in Iraq which was the pretext of US-led invasion of Iraq to topple Saddam and no weapon of mass destruction was found in that country. The invasion provided a fertile ground for criminals to operate which led to creation of daesh in 2010s
The same actors and collaborators are selling us another lie I hope sensible wont buy it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 7:49am On Jun 15, 2025
Amoto94:
Ibn Taymiyyah said:

“When the wrongdoers fight one another, some of them overpower others, and in that there is relief for the oppressed.”

Majmūʿ al-Fatāwā, 28/546
grin grin grin grin

Olele to ba wo inu eko, koni jade mo. (40 limit addendum).
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 7:58am On Jun 15, 2025
iran cargo aircraft arrived in iran, probably with some goodies.. cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:58am On Jun 15, 2025
cc:
LordAdam16
Pansophist
Android17
Seankafor

Xi Jinping of China is coming to the party.
Na like this world war dey start. If Israel go strike this aircraft then we're looking at a global war.

🇮🇷🇨🇳 MORE GIFTS FROM CHINA!!!

An Airbus A330-243F cargo aircraft departing from Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport has been tracked flying southwest over eastern Turkmenistan.

It turned off its transponder before reaching Iranian air space.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 8:00am On Jun 15, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
cc:
LordAdam16
Pansophist
Android17
Seankafor

Xi Jinping of China is coming to the party.
Na like this world war dey start. If Israel go strike this aircraft then we're looking at a global war.

🇮🇷🇨🇳 MORE GIFTS FROM CHINA!!!

An Airbus A330-243F cargo aircraft departing from Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport has been tracked flying southwest over eastern Turkmenistan.

It turned off its transponder before reaching Iranian air space.
dropped the news now right before getting your mention.

this is how you turn up to the party... if not that putin is busy putting nato and eu in their place,he for don gum body since,,but i still expect him to turn up for iran regardless
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 8:10am On Jun 15, 2025
In 1953, Iran had a democratically elected prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, who committed what, in the eyes of the British Empire and the United States, was an unforgivable sin: he nationalized Iran’s oil industry.

For decades, British Petroleum (then the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company) had extracted Iran’s wealth, leaving the Iranian people with little to show for it. Mossadegh’s move was a bid for sovereignty, dignity, and the right of a nation to control its own resources. The response from the so-called “free world” was swift and brutal: a joint CIA-MI6 operation, code-named Operation Ajax, orchestrated a coup to overthrow Mossadegh, using black propaganda, bribed politicians, manufactured riots, and false flag attacks to create chaos and justify intervention. Hundreds died in the streets of Tehran as the Shah—an autocratic monarch—was reinstalled with American and British backing.

This single act of imperial violence shattered Iran’s democracy and set the stage for everything that followed: decades of dictatorship under the authoritarian Shah, the rise of the secret police (trained and armed by the CIA), the deepening of anti-Western sentiment, and ultimately the 1979 Islamic Revolution. It’s not a stretch to say that the roots of today’s tensions, the cycles of violence, and the specter of war all trace back to this original sin. The aftershocks of that coup are still being felt, not only in Iran, but across the entire Middle East.

Yet, in the American imagination, history often starts with the hostage crisis, or with the latest missile launch, or with the rhetoric of “rogue states.” We’re taught to see Iran as an irrational enemy, a threat to “our” interests, never as a nation whose modern history was violently derailed by foreign powers seeking oil and geopolitical dominance. The coup became a blueprint for U.S. and British interventions around the world, fueling a legacy of distrust, blowback, and endless war.

This is not ancient history. The U.S. government only formally admitted its role in the coup in 2013, after decades of denial and the destruction of key documents. The British government’s involvement was only acknowledged even more recently. The details are staggering: CIA operatives posing as communists bombing mosques to stir up religious opposition, paying mobsters to riot in the streets, and bribing editors to print fake news-long before “fake news” became a household phrase.

So when Americans beat the drums of war with Iran, or wonder aloud “why do they hate us?”, we have to reckon with the fact that the U.S. and U.K. destroyed Iran’s best chance at democracy for the sake of oil profits and imperial power.

Imagine if a foreign power overthrew your government, installed a dictator, and then lectured you for decades about freedom and democracy. Imagine if, every time you tried to chart your own course, you were met with sanctions, threats, and military intervention.

The story of Iran is not unique. It’s a microcosm of the broader pattern of Western interventionism: democracy is celebrated only when it aligns with the interests of empire. When democracy threatens those interests—when a nation dares to control its own resources, or refuses to play by the rules of the global order—it is crushed, and the consequences are borne by ordinary people for generations.

This is not about excusing the crimes or authoritarianism of the Iranian regime. It’s about understanding the context that gave rise to it, and the role that Western powers played in destroying the possibility of a different, more peaceful future. It’s about recognizing that the seeds of today’s conflicts were planted by yesterday’s coups, sanctions, and covert operations.

If we truly want peace, if we want to avoid another catastrophic war, the first step is honesty. We have to confront our own history, acknowledge the violence committed in our name, and reject the amnesia that allows us to repeat the same mistakes over and over. Until we do, every new crisis will be haunted by the ghosts of 1953—and the world will continue to pay the price for our refusal to learn from the past. - Tim Hjersted | Films For Action
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 8:33am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
IF

Why the word if again ? I thought everybody already agreed Israel rely on their allies and they always come through for them. So why not let’s assume “If” the US steps in, what becomes of Iran ?
The situation here is quite different, the US does not want to get directly involved in the confrontation. Of course, we know they'll arm Israel and provide them with advance warning of Iranian attack but getting directly involved in the hostilities will likely take an Iranian attack on one of their Middle East bases to prompt that. The pressure back home for the US not to get involved is high thus the "If"...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 8:35am On Jun 15, 2025
patrickmuf:
The situation here is quite different, the US does not want to get directly involved in the confrontation. Of course, we know they'll arm Israel and provide them with advance warning of Iranian attack but getting directly involved in the hostilities will likely take an Iranian attack on one of their Middle East bases to prompt that. The pressure back home for the US not to get involved is high thus the "If"...
and also,there is a higher chance other nations also comes in like let's say Pakistan (who have been itchin to get in)
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:46am On Jun 15, 2025
seankafor:
dropped the news now right before getting your mention.

this is how you turn up to the party... if not that putin is busy putting nato and eu in their place,he for don gum body since,,but i still expect him to turn up for iran regardless
Russia is already on a war footing and mode. ready to fight on multiple fronts. Putin will still turn up, still bidding his time waiting for US/NATO to go on the offensive first then he will have the perfect excuse to enter the arena. Do you think if US/Germany/UK/France start attacking Iranian territory that Iran will not call for help from Russia just like we have seen Israel calling for help from America.

When Assad officially called for help, Putin didn't hesitate to move equipment to Syria.The Iranian have shown to have the willingness, courage and zeal to fight. Ayatollah Khamenei is still in Tehran unlike his Israeli counterparts that fled to Athens. For now, technically it's still Israel 🆚 Iran.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:49am On Jun 15, 2025
patrickmuf:
The situation here is quite different, the US does not want to get directly involved in the confrontation. Of course, we know they'll arm Israel and provide them with advance warning of Iranian attack but getting directly involved in the hostilities will likely take an Iranian attack on one of their Middle East bases to prompt that. The pressure back home for the US not to get involved is high thus the "If"...
When u said the US doesn’t want to get directly involved , I don’t really know what u mean .

What the Israeli wants from the US is just bunker buster bombs to destroy Iranian underground nuclear sites . Don’t forget the only reason Israel is on the offensive is to thwart every efforts of Iran to have a fully functional nuclear programme .

All Israel requires is bunker buster bombs to neutralize the Iranian nuclear sites they already identified . They don’t need US special forces being deployed to fight alongside Israeli forces .

So when u say the US doesn’t want to get directly involved , are u saying the US doesn’t want to provide bunker buster bombs to Israel when we all know the US is averse to the idea of Iran having nuclear weapons ?

Make it make sense bro .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:52am On Jun 15, 2025
seankafor:
and also,there is a higher chance other nations also comes in like let's say Pakistan (who have been itchin to get in)
Lmao 🤣

Other nations una . Pakistan that still has next door neighbor India to deal with ; make dem out body na .

E be like say all those propaganda don really catch u for where e no good . 😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 8:55am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
When u said the US doesn’t want to get directly involved , I don’t really know what u mean .

What the Israeli wants from the US is just bunker buster bombs to destroy Iranian underground nuclear sites . Don’t forget the only reason Israel is on the offensive is to thwart every efforts of Iran to have a fully functional nuclear programme .

All Israel requires is bunker buster bombs to neutralize the Iranian nuclear sites they already identified . They don’t need US special forces being deployed to fight alongside Israeli forces .

So when u say the US doesn’t want to get directly involved , are u saying the US doesn’t want to provide bunker buster bombs to Israel when we all know the US is averse to the idea of Iran having nuclear weapons ?

Make it make sense bro .
Why didn't Israel get the B2 bombers all this while, or the US doesn't sell them to other countries??
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:57am On Jun 15, 2025
Fadedvoiced:
Why didn't Israel get the B2 bombers all this while, or the US doesn't sell them to other countries??
I be like who Dey in charge of Israeli defense budget for ur eyes ? 🤷‍♂️
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:00am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Lmao 🤣

Other nations una . Pakistan that still has next door neighbor India to deal with ; make dem out body na .

E be like say all those propaganda don really catch u for where e no good . 😂
which neighbours? Who no get neighbours to deal with?
Oga, Pakistan has nukes and they have been on the vocal side of Iran ..

Normal hear and there squables with India no mean say dem no go turn up if called upon..

Una dey equate economic might to military 🪖 might... There are some countries wey sacrifice their food to get strong military.. if those hardline guys gets involved,it's sure going to be the end of those western era..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:00am On Jun 15, 2025
Even mentioning the b∅t now gets you banned. This is so fvçk³d üp.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:05am On Jun 15, 2025
Fadedvoiced:
Why didn't Israel get the B2 bombers all this while, or the US doesn't sell them to other countries??
There are only 18 B2 bombers in this world. Not for sale.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:05am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I be like who Dey in charge of Israeli defense budget for ur eyes ? 🤷‍♂️
Lol. I've always said it on this thread that Israel is a fraud. They're looking for any means possible to involve others in this nonsense. It must remain 1 v 1.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Akaekpuchionwa2: 9:06am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Lmao 🤣

Other nations una . Pakistan that still has next door neighbor India to deal with ; make dem out body na .

E be like say all those propaganda don really catch u for where e no good . 😂
Shey North Korea have South Korea? Are they not turning up for Russia. Everything no be black and white
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:07am On Jun 15, 2025
seankafor:
which neighbours? Who no get neighbours to deal with?
Oga, Pakistan has nukes and they have been on the vocal side of Iran ..

Normal hear and there squables with India no mean say dem no go turn up if called upon..

Una dey equate economic might to military 🪖 might... There are some countries wey sacrifice their food to get strong military.. if those hardline guys gets involved,it's sure going to be the end of those western era..
Keep living in delulu.

Pakistan did not use Nuke for their next door neighbour India whom they hate with passion , na Israel wey Dey far away dem go use nuke for ? Because of what exactly?

See the way u dey reason na.

Na press release and show.of support u go just dey read online and u go dey get errrection. Pakistan would not put their neck on the line for any yeye Iran
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Akaekpuchionwa2: 9:08am On Jun 15, 2025
Fadedvoiced:
Why didn't Israel get the B2 bombers all this while, or the US doesn't sell them to other countries??
B2 bombers and f_22 military aircraft are one of those lethal weaponry that Washington doesn't sell, not even to Israel or their NATO allies
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:10am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Keep living in delulu.

Pakistan did not use Nuke for their next door neighbour India whom they hate with passion , na Israel wey Dey far away dem go use nuke for ? Because of what exactly?

See the way u dey reason na.

Na press release and show.of support u go just dey read online and u go dey get errrection. Pakistan would not put their neck on the line for any yeye Iran
lol, you just started this armchair analysis few days ago.. us wey don dey follow military 🪖 events while back dey tell you something, you dey talk another thing..

Make we dey dey watch as events unfolds..we go see 2 tortoise 🐢 who be male.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Akaekpuchionwa2: 9:10am On Jun 15, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I be like who Dey in charge of Israeli defense budget for ur eyes ? 🤷‍♂️
Hehe hehe....

Why you come dey run...u sef want to decamp? They said failure na orphan

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:10am On Jun 15, 2025
Akaekpuchionwa2:
Shey North Korea have South Korea? Are they not turning up for Russia. Everything no be black and white
An unreasonable comparison and false equivalence once again.

Someone claims Pakistan will put body in a conflict involving Israel that has nuke because they have nukes themselves and I say they won't dare. Then u come talking about South Korea and North Korea and Russia another nuclear power.


Do u reaosn these things at all before u post them?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:12am On Jun 15, 2025
Akaekpuchionwa2:
B2 bombers and f_22 military aircraft are one of those lethal weaponry that Washington doesn't sell, not even to Israel or their NATO allies
Ibime:
There are only 18 B2 bombers in this world. Not for sale.
Israel should've created their own bunker busters na. cheesy Meanwhile, there are people who believe Israel can take on both Russia and USA because of some bible nonsense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:13am On Jun 15, 2025
seankafor:
lol, you just started this armchair analysis few days ago.. us wey don dey follow military 🪖 events while back dey tell you something, you dey talk another thing..

Make we dey dey watch as events unfolds..we go see 2 tortoise 🐢 who be male.
H wey dey wail on top Iran uselessness few days ago? 😂😂😂😂.

I guess It takes Israel to kill more Iranian generals and take out more military infrastructures before u switch sides again.

Even elder wey dey side u now claimed u don't stand for anything and that u are Lilly livered supporter of Iran
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:15am On Jun 15, 2025
Akaekpuchionwa2:
Hehe hehe....

Why you come dey run...u sef want to decamp? They said failure na orphan
U were the one calling for the Ayagollah to be overthrown just 2 days ago because the disappointment of Iran being caught unfresh was too much for u.

That was not me! 🤷‍♂️
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 9:15am On Jun 15, 2025
Akaekpuchionwa2:
Hehe hehe....

Why you come dey run...u sef want to decamp? They said failure na orphan
Just like seankafor and his crew disowned Iran few days ago.
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