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AntiChristian:
It's not possible for a hen to coo like a cock! But sometimes anomalies do happen! Some will see this as being sexist or sexual inequality! But males and females are not equal. Each has their own roles!

Oga equality has less to do with capacity when it isn't about gender and about reproduction.

Can a woman teach yes or no? Yes why should she not teach because her body is different from a man's body. Even God allowed daughters to inherit their father's property but that's not the God you believe in and listen to anyway.

Let woman keep silent in a church ⛪️ when they want to ask questions let them ask their husband at home.

gohf:
if you read your Bible it referred to wives not all females being silent with reference to their roles as been submissive to their husbands, then what about unmarried females and in what context are they expected to be silent when they are free to prophesy in the church.

Don't ridicule the truth by referring to Deborah as some activist

Read 2 Timothy 4 and contrast , and Deborah nor were never a priest don't just argue show us where in the Bible where they were identified as a priest. Don't try to interpret the Bible the Bible is well explanatory enough.

Women can Pastor a church but must accord respect to her husband and must not share the Grace after preaching, the Grace of the Lord should be shared by all...

Splendour99:
According to the Bible, no, a woman should not pastor a church gathering where there men involved. But she can teach in a women-only program. But these days, most people do whatever they like without consulting the Scriptures.

1 Timothy 2:12-14, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor."

1 Corinthians 14:33-35, "For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church."

The law says wives submit to your husband and not women should not teach men, are you saying Deborah and huldah broke the law that even huldah was asked to interpret?

Paul is writing concerning marriage and uses Adam and Eve as his reference point

spiSeyi:
Read 2 Timothy 4 and contrast , and Deborah nor were never a priest don't just argue show us where in the Bible where they were identified as a priest. Don't try to interpret the Bible the Bible is well explanatory enough.

did I tell you Deborah was a priest? Why are you confused like this?

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible women aren't given any equal right with men when talking about headship in sacred service.

Try to read your Bible from Genesis and see if females were mentioned in the genealogy of God's people.

Adam's descendants, Noah's children, Abraham's, and many others only males were mentioned it's only when something tragic occurred that a female will be mentioned by name. For instance the only female name mentioned among Jacob's children is "Dinah" who was raped even Jesus' male siblings were mentioned by name {Mark 6:3} but no mention of his female siblings.

So Bible writers don't reckon with females except when something significant is involved!

They didn't reckon with the females cos they were patrichal and ego consumed narcissists....
Men naturally love to dominate women like dominant animals In the jungle and that's what we are experiencing in our world today.....

Na human being write bible

1 Corinthians 14:34

Women have no business with being a pastor in the church of God.
Don't take my word for it you should check it out yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible women aren't given any equal right with men when talking about headship in sacred service.

Try to read your Bible from Genesis and see if females were mentioned in the genealogy of God's people.

Adam's descendants, Noah's children, Abraham's, and many others only males were mentioned it's only when something tragic occurred that a female will be mentioned by name. For instance the only female name mentioned among Jacob's children is "Dinah" who was raped even Jesus' male siblings were mentioned by name {Mark 6:3} but no mention of his female siblings.

So Bible writers don't reckon with females except when something significant is involved!

In the genealogy, a woman was mentioned. Reread your Bible.

AllBlack:
shey na una talk say OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY.
just wait. the real question starts when TEENAGERS start opening churches online and offline. What will you ask when this starts to happen? ARE TEENAGERS ALLOWED TO BE PASTORS? Jesus wasn't even a teenager when he started teaching, right? But old men pastors will gather and speak against this when the day comes.
We have not seen half of what this religion thing will cause but mark these words and wait for it.

can you tell us how old Timothy was when Paul was sending him as his rep to churches or how John was who many referred to as youngest, note that Jesus was about 30 so John was early twenties or even less than considering that he outlived them all for decades

All church leadership in the Bible were males, but that doesn't mean a woman can't head a church.

Most of what Paul said against women leading in church was from His own opinions not God's.

Why would God gift women with the same spiritual gifts as men if He didn't want them to pastor churches?

gohf:
can you tell us how old Timothy was when Paul was sending him as his rep to churches or how John was who many referred to as youngest, note that Jesus was about 30 so John was early twenties or even less than considering that he outlived them all for decades

save your questions for those that will oppose teenagers when the day comes.

A woman cannot preside over a man in Christianity but of course, what is practised nowadays is not true Christianity.

There are women in the Bible who fulfill roles with priestly characteristics, such as prophesying, leading, or serving in significant spiritual capacities:
1. Deborah: A prophetess and judge (Judges 4:4-5), she led Israel and spoke God's word, though not formally a priest.

2. Huldah: A prophetess consulted by King Josiah’s officials for divine guidance (2 Kings 22:14-20), indicating spiritual authority.

3. Anna: A prophetess in the New Testament who served in the temple, fasting and praying, and recognized Jesus as the Messiah (Luke 2:36-38).

4. Miriam: Called a prophetess (Exodus 15:20), she led worship and was a leader alongside Moses and Aaron, though not a priest in the Levitical sense.

Regarding women in biblical genealogies, several are notable, particularly in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew 1 and Luke 3:

1. Tamar (Matthew 1:3): She secured her place in Judah’s lineage through a controversial act (Genesis 38).

2. Rahab (Matthew 1:5): A Canaanite prostitute who helped Israelite spies (Joshua 2) and became an ancestor of Jesus.

3. Ruth (Matthew 1:5): A Moabitess who joined Israel and became the great-grandmother of King David (Ruth 1-4).

4. Bathsheba (Matthew 1:6, called “Uriah’s wife”): She bore Solomon, continuing David’s line (2 Samuel 11-12).

5. Mary (Matthew 1:16, Luke 3:23): The mother of Jesus, central to the genealogy as the one who bore the Messiah.

gohf:
The law says wives submit to your husband and not women should not teach men, are you saying Deborah and huldah broke the law that even huldah was asked to interpret?

Paul is writing concerning marriage and uses Adam and Eve as his reference point

The context of the two portions of Scripture I quoted is not Paul writing about marriage, but how he wants the leadership of the local church to be structured.

TheAdvocate:
In the genealogy, a woman was mentioned. Reread your Bible.

Anytime a woman is mentioned it's just to remind the reader what occurred.
Do you know the names of any daughter born to Adam, Jacob or Joseph (Jesus' foster father)?

judewrites:
All church leadership in the Bible were males, but that doesn't mean a woman can't head a church.

Most of what Paul said against women leading in church was from His own opinions not God's.

Why would God gift women with the same spiritual gifts as men if He didn't want them to pastor churches?

They were God's commandments through Paul for the setup of the church, and not Paul's opinions.

1 Corinth 14:37, "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Splendour99:
The context of the two portions of Scripture I quoted is not Paul writing about marriage, but how he wants the leadership of the local church to be structured.

are you sure you want to go into the context with me?

you have to show us that he wasn't writing about marriage

Splendour99:
They were God's commandments through Paul for the setup of the church, and not Paul's opinions.

1 Corinth 13:37, "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Firstly it is 1 Corinthians 14 not 13, 14:37

1Cor.14.34 Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says. (NLT)

1Cor.14.34 Wives must not disrupt worship, talking when they should be listening, (MSB)

Do you understand the meaning of disrupting a meeting?

And who are they to submit to, why their husbands and not church leadership?

Woman should not because of some facts in the Bible.

When a woman is in her monthly period cycle, they are not to be seen near the pulpit.

Woman already have enough to face in this life that they will be called to lead God's people instead of man.

What happened when the woman pastor is in her cycle?
Or when she's pregnant?

Just that in Africa and mostly in Nigeria, I really do not know where they got the doctrine they preach today.

Jughead29:
Woman should not because of some facts in the Bible.

When a woman is in her monthly period cycle, they are not to be seen near the pulpit.

Woman already have enough to face in this life that they will be called to lead God's people instead of man.

What happened when the woman pastor is in her cycle?
Or when she's pregnant?

Just that in Africa and mostly in Nigeria, I really do not know where they got the doctrine they preach today.

because men don't fall sick and don't take leave of absence?

NO!!!!
Each time I’m feeling overwhelmed with his grace and asked God if I should open a church to show gratitude, cos I don’t want to go and join a church where the pastor sees himself like a god and be in my business, the answer I got in the past was, “if you’ve had an abortion, you have blood in your hands and can’t build me a house” but now I’m getting “you can have a fellowship hall where you can meet for Bible studies, share testimonies and reach out to the needy in your community, but you must never lead a prayer or preach, a man must always lead in prayer”

You "men" should not comment and run away..

Splendour99

1Cor.14.35 asking questions that could more appropriately be asked of their husbands at home. God's Book of the law guides our manners and customs here. Wives have no license to use the time of worship for unwarranted speaking.

Explain to us how asking questions now means teaching and preaching the word of God and how teaching the word of God "disrupts" and causes confusion. You want context right, over to you

wowcatty:
NO!!!!
Each time I’m feeling overwhelmed with his grace and asked God if I should open a church to show gratitude, the answer I got in the past was, “if you’ve had an abortion, you have blood in your hands and can’t build me a house” but now I’m getting “you can have a fellowship hall where you can meet for Bible studies, share testimonies and reach out to the needy in your community, but you must never lead a prayer or preach, a man must always lead in prayer”

tell that Spirit speaking to you that I said it is a lying Spirit, what is the difference between a fellowship hall and a church. the devil is an author of confusion o. Imagine deceiving you that you cannot lead prayers nor preach and you believed

gohf:
are you sure you want to go into the context with me?

you have to show us that he wasn't writing about marriage

Well, if you read the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 14, he was addressing how things should be done in a local church gathering. He never referred to marriage at all, unless you want to read that into his words.

Imma624:
The issue of a woman pastoring a church is a subject of controversy today. Some argued for with their own explanation while some argued against.
To you, should a woman pastor a Church? Let's discuss

Does your question put food on your table?
What would Christ have have said to you?

Splendour99:
Well, if you read the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 14, he was addressing how things should be done in a local church gathering. He never referred to marriage at all, unless you want to read that into his words.

please just stop... Stating that 1 Corinthians 14 is about what occurs in a local church gathering doesn't give you the right to say he never made any reference to marriage when you can clearly read him mention that wives should ask their husbands at home.

Except you have not come to Nigeria, Have they not been pastoring it since?

gohf:
please just stop... Stating that 1 Corinthians 14 is about what occurs in a local church gathering doesn't give you the right to say he never made any reference to marriage when you can clearly read him mention that wives should ask their husbands at home.

You can choose to believe what you want.

In my humble opinion, they're only deceiving themselves. THE ANSWER IS NO! SHE SHOULD BE UNDER THE MAN.

I believe it’s the spirit of God, maybe I didn’t put it well. What I meant by a fellowship hall is small room for about 20 people. And not leading a prayer in church like a pastor after preaching. See ehn, we all see true worship differently. I don’t believe you can really worship God in spirit and in truth if you wear shoes during prayer, with women hair uncovered and so many other things.

gohf:
tell that Spirit speaking to you that I said it is a lying Spirit, what is the difference between a fellowship hall and a church. the devil is an author of confusion o. Imagine deceiving you that you cannot lead prayers nor preach and you believed