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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 12:31pm On Jun 16, 2025
🟢Israeli journalist and analyst Raviv Drucker:

- Netanyahu has taken an unreasonable risk.

- Israel is unable to prevent the extensive damage caused by Iranian missiles, which are achieving hits with an accuracy unparalleled by any previous enemy.

- Much of the damage is not reported by the media under the pretext of not revealing information to the enemy.


- Thus, Israelis do not know the extent of the price they are paying.

- The army publishes statements about striking Iranian missile platforms and "reducing their capabilities," but experts in the field doubt its ability to perform this task against a country with an area of 1.6 million square kilometers.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 12:32pm On Jun 16, 2025
obedience4:
I see a lot of narratives of our friends here trying to push a agenda that the US would intervene on behalf of the jews without any direct provocations by Iran against US interests in the middle-east.

My mate say he get evidence but the evidence na only twitter he deyšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


The big question is this, they have been alot of talk here and on X of a new world order, a new coalition of countries, seeking to bring a sudden change to the present dynamics in world politics, to bring a premature demise to the perceived US led western hegemony in the world

The war currently in Iran and Israel is the first real point of call to check the strength of the so called alliance, Iran an important regional power has be touted by commentors here as a key player in the so called new older challenging the present status quo'

North Korea, China and Russia the other key players have not even critized the deliberate attacks by the Jews on Iranian soil, the killings of military officers inside Iran even when neogations were still going on, there's is alot of chatter here about the US moving forces to the middle-east, What stopping China, and especially Russia from putting up a strong response to the attacks even if they don't want to show military strength??
Is this how you want to challenge the dominace of the US when you can't even stand up for your allies
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I need your take on this

Cc balisco , Simeonjoe1, Gbadebo19, usmanpogo,
seigneur eve husband, 23jerryking,
I don't understand what you mean intervene, the US is already involved in this conflict. The US and the UK are shutting down missiles from Iran. The only thing the US and the UK haven't done is attack Iran but they are very much involved already.

For example, Last year, I said Russian missiles were passing through NATO countries airspace and they dare not shoot it down, I remembered there was this dumb guy that says he lives in France calling it a false flag.

NATO countries understood shooting down Russian missiles heading towards Ukraine would mean their involvement in the conflict, so they stayed away.

You're a smart guy, I'm pretty certain you know the US is involved already, except they are yet to attack Iran. There's a reason the Saudis want the same security guarantees the Israelis have, just like Ukraine.

At least you agreed Iran is a regional power, you've tried very hard to downplay their capabilities but I'm certain you know they are very capable and a formidable adversary.

Thirdly, there's no serious opposition to the current world order, it's just wishful thinking, no such thing as new world order. The current world order started with alliances, the transatlantic alliance has been the most formidable and still remains they most formidable alliance till date.

Russia and China are making the same mistake the Axis powers did during WW2. People easily forget there is no military alliance between China and Russia.
It's no secret NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine, China could have openly supported Russia but they didn't.
If China goes to war today, it'll go to war alone because China has a policy of not allying itself militarily with any other country.
China even sells drone components to Ukraine and Russia.

In conclusion, yes the US and the UK are very much involved in the fight against Iran.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 12:34pm On Jun 16, 2025
A powerful explosion occurred at a fireworks factory in China

According to media reports, as a result of the explosion in the city of Shanzhou in the Chinese province of Henan, 9 people were injured, and 2 more remain missing. The exact number of victims remains unknown.

The footage shows a huge column of smoke, flames and clouds of smoke, windows were blown out in houses within a radius of several kilometres, and an explosion of pyrotechnics can be seen at the base of the column.

All emergency services of the PRC have left for the scene. The causes of the explosion are still unknown.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 12:43pm On Jun 16, 2025
Regardless of the outcome of the war ,many people will leave Israel and will never return
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 12:43pm On Jun 16, 2025
usmanpogo:
I don't understand what you mean intervene, the US is already involved in this conflict. The US and the UK are shutting down missiles from Iran. The only thing the US and the UK haven't done is attack Iran but they are very much involved already.

For example, Last year, I said Russian missiles were passing through NATO countries airspace and they dare not shoot it down, I remembered there was this dumb guy that says he lives in France calling it a false flag.

NATO countries understood shooting down Russian missiles heading towards Ukraine would mean their involvement in the conflict, so they stayed away.

You're a smart guy, I'm pretty certain you know the US is involved already, except they are yet to attack Iran. There's a reason the Saudis want the same security guarantees the Israelis have, just like Ukraine.

At least you agreed Iran is a regional power, you've tried very hard to downplay their capabilities but I'm certain you know they are very capable and a formidable adversary.

Thirdly, there's no serious opposition to the current world order, it's just wishful thinking, no such thing as new world order. The current world order started with alliances, the transatlantic alliance has been the most formidable and still remains they most formidable alliance till date.

Russia and China are making the same mistake the Axis powers did during WW2. People easily forget there is no military alliance between China and Russia.
It's no secret NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine, China could have openly supported Russia but they didn't.
If China goes to war today, it'll go to war alone because China has a policy of not allying itself militarily with any other country.
China even sells drone components to Ukraine and Russia.

In conclusion, yes the US and the UK are very much involved in the fight against Iran.
A section of your writeup conflicts with another section. First, you said Russian missiles passed through NATO airspace to Ukraine and they didn't shoot it down because it would amount to them getting involved in the conflict. In the latter part, you said it is no secret that NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine. Why does coordinating operations in Ukraine NOT amount to being involved in the conflict. If shooting down Russian missiles amounts to NATO being involved, so should the coordination of operations. Thus, we can safely conclude that by coordinating operations in Ukraine, NATO is involved in the conflict which further exposes Russia as being weak. If on the other hand we do not see the NATO coordination of operations in Ukraine as being involved in tbe conflict, then shooting down russian drones should also not be seen as being involved in the conflict. If you agree with this last sentence, then we can say that US and UK shooting down Iranian missiles does not translate to being involved in tbe conflict.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 12:48pm On Jun 16, 2025
Lawag3:
Not mind the guy na propaganda just full him head.


I love Candace Owens but her take on Israel and Andrew Tate is just off
I told ya, he will run, they always run after been caught in their ignorance.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:49pm On Jun 16, 2025
Vic2023:
šŸ‡®šŸ‡·šŸ‡®šŸ‡±āš”- Israeli Security Minister Ben-Gvir said the national police will go after those that record Iranian ballistics impacting against Israel. He has also said the government will look into restricting international press coverage on Iranian ballistic missile attacks.
The Israeli security minister never said this. If he did bring proof.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 12:53pm On Jun 16, 2025
⚔Russian robotic complex "Stalker" demining liberated territory in Kursk border area

The operator can control the machine at a distance of up to 1-3 km, receiving images from four cameras placed on the "Stalker".

The machine was developed by Chelyabinsk "DST-Ural" and a year ago was tested near Avdeevka, and now, probably, is being serially supplied to engineering units.

The "Stalker" has a mass of 27 tons and an engine with a capacity of 540 hp. It is designed to clear the area of ​​explosive objects and anti-personnel mines. In the event of an anti-tank mine detonation, the protective casing of the robot will be damaged, which can be replaced - it is a consumable.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Crayfish09: 12:55pm On Jun 16, 2025
Lawag3:
The Israeli security minister never said this. If he did bring proof.
I found it with a single Google search

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ben-gvir-says-police-hunting-down-anyone-filming-missile-strike-locations-celebrating-iran/
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 12:56pm On Jun 16, 2025
Apocalyptic scenes. I don't think the US destroyed Afghanistan and Iraq up to this levels.

And you wonder why no one wants to fight Russia.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 12:57pm On Jun 16, 2025
Gbadebo19:
A section of your writeup conflicts with another section. First, you said Russian missiles passed through NATO airspace to Ukraine and they didn't shoot it down because it would amount to them getting involved in the conflict. In the latter part, you said it is no secret that NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine. Why does coordinating operations in Ukraine NOT amount to being involved in the conflict. If shooting down Russian missiles amounts to NATO being involved, so should the coordination of operations. Thus, we can safely conclude that by coordinating operations in Ukraine, NATO is involved in the conflict which further exposes Russia as being weak. If on the other hand we do not see the NATO coordination of operations in Ukraine as being involved in tbe conflict, then shooting down russian drones should also not be seen as being involved in the conflict. If you agree with this last sentence, then we can say that US and UK shooting down Iranian missiles does not translate to being involved in tbe conflict.
Point out what part is false and I'll rephrase
NATO has openly denied involvement in Ukraine.
The US and the UK have openly admitted to shutting down Iranian missiles, comprende ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:00pm On Jun 16, 2025
usmanpogo:
I don't understand what you mean intervene, the US is already involved in this conflict. The US and the UK are shutting down missiles from Iran. The only thing the US and the UK haven't done is attack Iran but they are very much involved already.

For example, Last year, I said Russian missiles were passing through NATO countries airspace and they dare not shoot it down, I remembered there was this dumb guy that says he lives in France calling it a false flag.

NATO countries understood shooting down Russian missiles heading towards Ukraine would mean their involvement in the conflict, so they stayed away.

You're a smart guy, I'm pretty certain you know the US is involved already, except they are yet to attack Iran. There's a reason the Saudis want the same security guarantees the Israelis have, just like Ukraine.

At least you agreed Iran is a regional power, you've tried very hard to downplay their capabilities but I'm certain you know they are very capable and a formidable adversary.

Thirdly, there's no serious opposition to the current world order, it's just wishful thinking, no such thing as new world order. The current world order started with alliances, the transatlantic alliance has been the most formidable and still remains they most formidable alliance till date.

Russia and China are making the same mistake the Axis powers did during WW2. People easily forget there is no military alliance between China and Russia.
It's no secret NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine, China could have openly supported Russia but they didn't.
If China goes to war today, it'll go to war alone because China has a policy of not allying itself militarily with any other country.
China even sells drone components to Ukraine and Russia.

In conclusion, yes the US and the UK are very much involved in the fight against Iran.
Russia weapons bypassing Nato countries airspace, I think that happened once when a missile breached Nato memebr Poland and also some few drone incursions also in Eastern Poland which borders Ukraine, anyone whose airspace is breached reserves the right to take out the projectile, Turkey took out Russian jets when it breached it airspace. Defending your airspace won't be interference

your take on the New world order is accurate, When we try to educate our friends here, they don't seems to understand, they have all been blinded by the hate for the west.

As regards The US intervention in helping Israel take out projectiles from Iran, i will take the dark lowly path of "plausible deniability"... There's no "named" official or official statement nor physical evidence that US military are helping Israel defend itself😜
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 1:00pm On Jun 16, 2025
Watcharena:
Regardless of the outcome of the war ,many people will leave Israel and will never return
Israelis are hated all over the world now. No body is saying anything good about them except their backers in Western capitals. It is evident on social media. YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X. Omo Netanyahu has finished that country.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:03pm On Jun 16, 2025
Lawag3:
The Israeli security minister never said this. If he did bring proof.
He will run, I promise you he will run, just like the last one
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 1:08pm On Jun 16, 2025
Obedience40:
Russia weapons bypassing Nato countries airspace, I think that happened once when a missile breached Nato memebr Poland and also some few drone incursions also in Eastern Poland which borders Ukraine, anyone whose airspace is breached reserves the right to take out the projectile, Turkey took out Russian jets when it breached it airspace. Defending your airspace won't be interference

your take on the New world order is accurate, When we try to educate our friends here, they don't seems to understand, they have all been blinded by the hate for the west.

As regards The US intervention in helping Israel take out projectiles from Iran, i will take the dark lowly path of "plausible deniability"... There's no "named" official or official statement nor physical evidence that US military are helping Israel defend itself😜
I knew you would plead the 5th
Nice one oga lawyer
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 1:11pm On Jun 16, 2025
⚔Iran's IRGC:

Future operations will be much more devastating, tougher, more precise, and more destructive than previous operations.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 1:13pm On Jun 16, 2025
Lawag3:
The Israeli security minister never said this. If he did bring proof.
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What APC cannot destroy does not exist

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 1:14pm On Jun 16, 2025
IRGC Commander:

We will continue our mission even if Israeli attacks stop.



Good news, let's end the matter now instead of having this same issue in a year or 2 again.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by akwesenana: 1:21pm On Jun 16, 2025
seunny4lif:
In 1953, Iran's democracy was disrupted by a U.S.- and U.K.-backed coup that overthrew elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh.
The coup, driven by Western oil interests and Cold War fears of Soviet influence, reinstated Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, leading to decades of autocratic rule.
This suppressed political freedoms and fueled anti-Western sentiment, contributing to the 1979 revolution. While some argue the coup ensured stability, others see it as a betrayal of Iran's sovereignty and democratic aspirations.
The event remains contentious, with internal Iranian dynamics also playing a role.

So, we know the root of all the evil
The 1953 Operation Ajax can be said to be the root cause of this senseless loss of lives. Had the defenders of democracy not ousted the democratically elected prime minister in favor of the despotic Shah of Iran, the Middle East would most likely have been a much safer place than it is now as the Mullahs wouldn't have had any reason no support in the 1979 revolution. LoL.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 1:21pm On Jun 16, 2025
WriterrNg:
⚔Iran's IRGC:

Future operations will be much more devastating, tougher, more precise, and more destructive than previous operations.
Long live IRGC. But you still need the ultimate which is the bomb.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:23pm On Jun 16, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
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What APC cannot destroy does not exist
Okay where did he say they will be arrested that's the koko.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 1:29pm On Jun 16, 2025
WriterrNg:
⚔Iran's IRGC:

Future operations will be much more devastating, tougher, more precise, and more destructive than previous operations.
No sleep for hospital bombers and baby killers tonight ā¤ļøšŸ‡®šŸ‡·šŸ«”
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:30pm On Jun 16, 2025
Crayfish09:
I found it with a single Google search

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ben-gvir-says-police-hunting-down-anyone-filming-missile-strike-locations-celebrating-iran/
In less than a minute I read and found this

Speaking from the scene of this morning’s Iranian missile strike in Petah Tikva, National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir pledges to crack down on both foreign media and ā€œexpressions of joyā€ at Iranian attacks.

ā€œZero patience for those who support Iran,ā€ he says. ā€œSupporting Iran is supporting terrorism, and those who support terrorism should be in custody.ā€Ben Gvir announces ā€œzero toleranceā€ for celebrations in support of the Iranian attacks, saying that ā€œpolice have arrested quite a few peopleā€ and prison guards have cracked down among inmates expressing joy over the strikes


From your link oh
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 1:31pm On Jun 16, 2025
,.......................................

For anyone who cares

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 1:31pm On Jun 16, 2025
⚔A video has surfaced showing an Israeli air defense battery in the Negev Desert launching an interceptor missile, which then appears to malfunction and strike its own system.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 1:51pm On Jun 16, 2025
Vic2023:
āš”ļø During Iran’s latest missile attack overnight, Israel’s Air Defenses (likely Arrow) malfunctioned and committed suicide.

the best military my foot 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Self distruction

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 1:57pm On Jun 16, 2025
Alamkiir:
I also saw one video yesterday, Israeli AD shoot 2 missiles up, one fall back and hit the AD with multiple explosions the other hit the nearest neighbourhood. I will look for the video and post the link.
The Iron Dome fired two missiles to intercept Iran’s missiles, but the interceptors looped back toward the defense battery itself and set it on fire.

Moments later, the Iranian missiles successfully hit the Nevatim Airbase in the Negev.

Video as promised
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 2:06pm On Jun 16, 2025
Lawag3:
Okay where did he say they will be arrested that's the koko.
The video of the fox News reporter guy they chased out from covering the impact of Eranian m**sle attack is everywhere...
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 2:09pm On Jun 16, 2025
Hamas dented Israel's invincibility and Iranians came to destroy it completely.
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