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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:02pm On Jun 16, 2025
This was the service chief relocating to Benue on June 3

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/06/herdsmen-killings-attacks-army-chief-oluyede-relocates-to-benue-with-psos/

The killing of 200 was on June 13. Maybe the killers were not informed that the service chief was in town.

Next thing will be that Tinubu should relocate Aso rock to Benue so that he will show he is serious

Instead of tackling the issue we just like all the posing for gram and headlines. The real hardwork is in the bushes in the villages where its mostly the locals who can figure it out
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 5:02pm On Jun 16, 2025
By the way what's the time in Tehran now, be like I need to adjust my clock to Tehran time

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nobody: 5:07pm On Jun 16, 2025
Be like I go turn Watchman for this night 🌃🌉

No sleep for me cool

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 5:08pm On Jun 16, 2025
Ellexo:
Armed herdsmen slaughtered innocent villagers in cold blood, yet your response is to caution the community leaders not the killers to “act responsibly” and mind their words 😡

This is just a chilling display of indifference to human life. When blood is soaking the soil, you’re more worried about tone than the actual terror. Omo.

God please, let us be lucky for once with a good leader, we don too suffer na


😭😭😭
The killers are innocent bandit according to some people here...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:09pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So NA doesn't have Divisions in states again?

Na Abuja all of dem base, abi?[/color]
That excuse was downright pathetic. Soldiers are trained to face enemies in any terrain, familiar or not. That’s literally their job description.

Him trying to argue that a civilian who's more familiar with the locality is somehow better suited than a fully trained combat soldier is funny.

It's not like the herdsmen committing these atrocities know the terrain more than the locals, yet they're operating anyhow.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:12pm On Jun 16, 2025
Ellexy:
That excuse was downright pathetic. Soldiers are trained to face enemies in any terrain, familiar or not. That’s literally their job description.

Him trying to argue that a civilian who's more familiar with the locality is somehow better suited than a fully trained combat soldier is funny.

It's not like the herdsmen committing these atrocities know the terrain more than the locals, yet they're operating anyhow.
[color=royalblue]What about the arms?

Let Tinubu be campaigning for 2027, while locals carry their machetes to combat with someone holding a stainless AK-47 [/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by HansiBobo: 5:12pm On Jun 16, 2025
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:13pm On Jun 16, 2025
BlueRayDick:
E shock her grin grin grin grin grin

Dem no allow am finish im propaganda broadcast before dem lock shop on top her head. grin
Propaganda stopped immediately as background shouts of Allahu akbar took over.


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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 5:15pm On Jun 16, 2025
As much as I understand the complexities and nuances of the situation on ground I won't give PBAT a pass because he's seen the situation happen under the past 2 Presidents which means he should have had a fair idea of how to resolve the situation adopting different tactics.

Tinubu was within his rights when he criticized GEJ for his failings as regards security so anything he's receiving today is fair game until things improve substantially.

raumdeuter:
I see what Tinubu is doing and giving the circumstances, he is doing the best he can, He also needs collaboration of the state governors. What we always do is absolve state governors of any responsibility and everything is FG

The other states that did it heaven did not fall, the Benue Plateau where that is the epicenter are shying away. Its really confusing

Have the Benue people started by asking the CSO of their state why they cant secure themselves instead of waiting for Abuja that has failed them for 40yrs?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:18pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]What about the arms?

Let Tinubu be campaigning for 2027, while locals carry their machetes to combat with someone holding a stainless AK-47 [/color]
Are you saying the security votes of the state government cannot afford more than machetes
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 5:19pm On Jun 16, 2025
Honestly a region that produced cats like Dimka, Orkar and General Malu have become cowering victims that can't defend themselves?

afrodoc:
Middle Belt that has some of toughest and most militant Nigerians ever has now become slaughter ground.

It is a low down dirty shame.

Both federal and state governments should be ashamed. They have failed those people.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:22pm On Jun 16, 2025
raumdeuter:
Are you saying the security votes of the state government cannot afford more than machetes
[color=royalblue]I am not defending Alia on this matter

My point is that the mess is way bigger and different from what we are seeing in the SW and SE; which you people are comparing it with.

These guys will enter a community and clear the inhabitants. It's different from someone trying to graze on your land.

That's the point you are missing. [/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bluelines69: 5:23pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You need to understand what you are comparing

People are entering communities with the only aim to kill people. No kidnap, no ransom. Just enter and kill

Is this what you are comparing to people who will let you be, if you give them your phone?[/color]
That comparison weak me, comparing area boys and normal street security to armed militia who are only out to kill both young and old irregardless.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:24pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]What about the arms?

Let Tinubu be campaigning for 2027, while locals carry their machetes to combat with someone holding a stainless AK-47 [/color]
I remember Amotekun and Ebubeagu was a struggle cos Buhari and co were against it yet the governors did what they had to do.

That pst Alia or whatever they call him is an unserious fellow acting like they installed him without any will of his own.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Jun 16, 2025
chrisooblog:
As much as I understand the complexities and nuances of the situation on ground I won't give PBAT a pass because he's seen the situation happen under the past 2 Presidents which means he should have had a fair idea of how to resolve the situation adopting different tactics.

Tinubu was within his rights when he criticized GEJ for his failings as regards security so anything he's receiving today is fair game until things improve substantially.
From my little knowledge of the middle belt, they are a mix, they have villages who are farmers, Christians and natives e.g Jukun, Angas Tiv and they also have villages that are largely herdsmen, moslem, Fulani settlers

A fight will start between village A and village B, will escalate maybe the Angas village is getting the upper hand, the fulani village will reach out to their brothers outside for backup. Those ones will be brought in and on the day of the attacks it's usually the local fulani that will lead the outside well armed Fulanis to the location to cause havoc

The locals are the ones who will know the situation better. To an outsider you can't know the difference between the 2 parties but a local will know

Tinubu was within his right to criticize and anyone doing so is also within his right

Your right is different from the realities of the past 50yrs of consistent killings and those on ground closer to the people should take a lead with the backup of the FG. That is my point
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bluelines69: 5:25pm On Jun 16, 2025
They said state police isn’t good as governors would abuse it so what stops the governor from turning these so called state “paramilitary “ into same thing we fear about state policing
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Jun 16, 2025
chrisooblog:
Honestly a region that produced cats like Dimka, Orkar and General Malu have become cowering victims that can't defend themselves?
The boys on ground mount wella na the state government dey dull dem
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 5:28pm On Jun 16, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Even when the Benue people protested, their governor had them shot at and tear gas used to dispersed them. Now Imagine if they arm themselves ; won't the government go hard on them?
They are protesting against innocent armed bandits...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:28pm On Jun 16, 2025
Bluelines69:
That comparison weak me, comparing area boys and normal street security to armed militia who are only out to kill both young and old irregardless.
[color=royalblue]These guys are not even giving them the chance to live

No kidnap, no ransom.... Nothing nothing

Just enter a community, spray bullets and leave.

This is what we should compare to One Chance, or kidnappings, ehn?[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:28pm On Jun 16, 2025
TrebleChamp:
The killers are innocent bandit according to some people here...
Bruh............................... and that the bulk of anything security no longer ends at the president's table, the goal post has now been shifted to the governors' domot.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I am not defending Alia on this matter

My point is that the mess is way bigger and different from what we are seeing in the SW and SE; which you people are comparing it with.

These guys will enter a community and clear the inhabitants. It's different from someone trying to graze on your land.

That's the point you are missing. [/color]
The point is if SW, SE are doing 5, Benue should be doing 50 because na them the thing dey hit pass. The guys on ground know themselves better than the guy in Abuja
Alia should do better and not be going to pay condolence visit every Monday morning. Meet force with force and see what happens

Begging praying and wishing it away has failed
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:29pm On Jun 16, 2025
raumdeuter:
Service chief relocated to Benue weeks ago, did it stop the 200 killing last weekend?

The Service chief that will sit in a guest house in Markurdi with girls and beer while killing is going on in a village 100miles away

We just like all these performative things that dont really matter. You think the terrorists and killers will pass through the hotel of the service chief?
Is that not an indictment on Tinubu's leadership? If he orders service chiefs to go solve the insecurity issue and gbey decided to lodge in hotels and drink beer while terrrosits attack more citizens?

See, all these one u are blaming everybody but Tinubu no be am at all. But continue
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bluelines69: 5:30pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]These guys are not even giving them the chance to live

No kidnap, no ransom.... Nothing nothing

Just enter a community, spray bullets and leave.

This is what we should compare to One Chance, or kidnappings, ehn?[/color]
They set buildings on fire with people inside and surround the village, that’s how most of this Fulani militias operate
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 5:31pm On Jun 16, 2025
raumdeuter:
The point is if SW, SE are doing 5, Benue should be doing 50 because na them the thing dey hit pass. The guys on ground know themselves better than the guy in Abuja
Alia should do better and not be going to pay condolence visit every Monday morning. Meet force with force and see what happens

Begging praying and wishing it away has failed
[color=royalblue]Okay.

What should Tinubu do?[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bluelines69: 5:31pm On Jun 16, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Is that not an indictment on Tinubu's leadership? If he orders service chiefs to go solve the insecurity issue and gbey decided to lodge in hotels and drink beer while terrrosits attack more citizens?

See, all these one u are blaming everybody but Tinubu no be am at all. But continue
Person wey no complete 3 days for there, left almost immediately that’s why you’ve not even seen him in the news
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]These guys are not even giving them the chance to live

No kidnap, no ransom.... Nothing nothing

Just enter a community, spray bullets and leave.

This is what we should compare to One Chance, or kidnappings, ehn?[/color]
You think they are just picking targets at random?
The people on ground probably know and have a feel for when they are coming. There are many times they will say they are calling some army barracks far off and no response because the army barracks is waiting for orders from Abuja

Put the security locally, arm these local guys and they will defend their villages better than anyone from Abuja
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:33pm On Jun 16, 2025
seankafor:
so much for " we don't target civilians bla bla bla "
They targeted the propaganda factory and machinery, not civilians.


grin grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 5:34pm On Jun 16, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay.

What should Tinubu do?[/color]
If he eventually answers, please tag me.
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