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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:09pm On Jun 18, 2025
dermmy:
Iran should have been tough on this anti-Mossad operation before now anyway some catastrophic failures make you see and admit your mistakes and come out stronger and determined.
No, Iran needs to invest in technology, especially homegrown.

Just look at the quality of the video.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 4:09pm On Jun 18, 2025
Mikasaobi:
There seems to be someone deleting anti Isreal government posts, especially when it has video links. It’s troublesome posting same thing multiple times. Please whoever you are this is a Nigeria site with limited international influence, let us discuss in peace.
The whole forum has been taken over by the rats. Seun doesn't even try to be covert when promoting Israeli propaganda on the front page.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 4:11pm On Jun 18, 2025
@wrtterng
My surprise is the fact that they are not letting them leave the country, if you want to hold your people hostage at least pay for the damages so they can continue with the lifestyle they are used to living.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 4:13pm On Jun 18, 2025
obedience4:
Calm down mate, Even Prime Minister Modi will allow US assets pass through Indian airspace. There's no big deal there
Wrong. What you are talking about is governed by the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) that USA always forces its partners to sign. Only, in India's case, India categorically refused to sign this agreement. As a result an India specific agreement named the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) was signed between USA and India. The entire reason behind this was to ensure India's strategic autonomy.


As a direct result of the above, any US asset that is actively participating in an operation against a third nation will NEVER be allowed to use Indian airspace. This was one of the major sticking points when India had signed the LEMOA contract with USA. India has multiple ADIZs that it controls, it won't let ANY foreign or unknown military entities fly over these ADIZs in any war that India is not a part of. There had been a case in the past too where a private US flight carrying US soldiers home accidentally breached Indian ADIZ and was made to land in India and held there till the issue was resolved at the diplomatic level.

India is very serious when it comes to its own sovereignty. Unlike Pakistan, that quite literally sells its daughters to the Chinese. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/5/more-than-600-pakistani-girls-sold-as-brides-to-china
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:13pm On Jun 18, 2025
⚡Trump says he rejected Putin’s offer to mediate Israel-Iran talks:

“I told Vladimir, let’s mediate Russia first. You can worry about this later.”
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 4:15pm On Jun 18, 2025
⚡️Asked what he would say to Iran's Supreme Leader, who said they would not surrender, Trump replied, "I say good luck."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 4:20pm On Jun 18, 2025
Why is he delaying the inevitable? He should intervene if he want to intervene all this explanation is getting boring

I was thinking they conduct lie detector test for all the presidential aspirants.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 4:23pm On Jun 18, 2025
DeathParade:
Wrong. What you are talking about is governed by the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) that USA always forces its partners to sign. Only, in India's case, India categorically refused to sign this agreement. As a result an India specific agreement named the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) was signed between USA and India. The entire reason behind this was to ensure India's strategic autonomy.


As a direct result of the above, any US asset that is actively participating in an operation against a third nation will NEVER be allowed to use Indian airspace. This was one of the major sticking points when India had signed the LEMOA contract with USA.

India is very serious when it comes to its own sovereignty. Unlike Pakistan, that quite literally sells its daughters to the Chinese. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/5/more-than-600-pakistani-girls-sold-as-brides-to-china
First cut the crap about one nation forcing another to sign an agreement. Consent is an important factor in every agreement and it cannot be gotten via dubious means. If gotten via dubious means, it can be challenged in a court of competent jurisdiction. What you are referring to as "forcing to sign" is actually an agreement made from a position of power. A situation where the offeror has a better negotiating power than the offeree or vice versa.
By saying "forcing to sign", you are only trying to deface the US which is only privileged because it is conducting its negotiation from a position of power.
All this kind of agreement exist in almost every ramification of human contracts. For instance, before opening an account on Facebook, or use a software, you are required to agree to the terms and conditions, failure of which you cannot use their service. Are they also "forcing you to sign?" I will be waiting in the comments....
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 4:31pm On Jun 18, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Why is he delaying the inevitable? He should intervene if he want to intervene all this explanation is getting boring

I was thinking they conduct lie detector test for all the presidential aspirants.
This got me.... grin

Got me got me. Got me got me , got me, got meoooooooooooo
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 4:34pm On Jun 18, 2025
Gbadebo19:
First cut the crap about one nation forcing another to sign an agreement. Consent is an important factor in every agreement and it cannot be gotten via dubious means. If gotten via dubious means, it can be challenged in a court of competent jurisdiction. What you are referring to as "forcing to sign" is actually an agreement made from a position of power. A situation where the offeror has a better negotiating power than the offeree or vice versa.
By saying "forcing to sign", you are only trying to deface the US which is only privileged because it is conducting its negotiation from a position of power.
All this kind of agreement exist in almost every ramification of human contracts. For instance, before opening an account on Facebook, or use a software, you are required to agree to the terms and conditions, failure of which you cannot use their service. Are they also "forcing you to sign?" I will be waiting in the comments....
Right. My bad. By forcing to sign, I didn't mean that USA puts a gun to their heads. Its that they negotiate from a position of strength, so they force their partners on the negotiating table, through negotiations.

I use the word "force" because between 2005, which is when India US relations thawed, till 2016, USA tried very hard to get India to sign the original LSA that it signs with every other country. India didn't budge. In the end, they had to give up and signed an India specific LEMOA instead.

And let me remind you, Logistics Support Agreement is just one of what USA calls "Foundational Agreements" that they force their partners to sign. Others include (I know the India specific names, not the names of the default ones but they are similar) Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) and Communications Compatibility and Security Agreement (COMCASA). These two took even longer to negotiate because USA was forcing India so hard. In the end, India didn't budge and they had to give up and signed India specific agreements in 2020 and 2018 respectively.

Let me reiterate, any nation has the option of simply not signing an agreement with Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam then has the option of choosing not to do business with that country its all perfectly legal.

I don't get why you think forcing someone on the negotiating table is not a thing.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 4:39pm On Jun 18, 2025
It's not too late. Trump can still rein in his mad dog Netanyahu and tell him to stop the madness but his ego and pride won't allow him. They underestimated Iran capability and the determination of Iranian people.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:44pm On Jun 18, 2025
⚡U.S. is working to arrange flights and cruise ships for American citizens looking to leave Israel, embassy says.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:47pm On Jun 18, 2025
⚡Israel is expected to experience a severe economic recession in 2026 and 2027, following substantial expenditures in various wars over the past two years.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 4:50pm On Jun 18, 2025
⚡Main elements of Israeli espionage were arrested.

A doctor and his son, who were the main elements of espionage in Khorramabad, who in particular spied the Imam Ali military missile base, were reportedly arrested in Khorramabad today.

200-300 micro drones were found at the villa of this neurologist. His villa’s roof was used to launch those drones at the military base in Khorramabad.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FXtrader2025: 4:51pm On Jun 18, 2025
dermmy:
It's not too late. Trump can still rein in his mad dog Netanyahu and tell him to stop the madness but his ego and pride won't allow him. They underestimated Iran capability and the determination of Iranian people.
Netayanhu is powerful than Trump!
Trump is just dragging his feet and want a deal so tbe war can just end, but his Jewish Sponsors are hell bent on war and there is nothing he can do about it.
He is just so confused at the moment, praying Iran just surrender to save his ass.
He recently got a Huge Gift from the Qataris and a promise of Billions of USD in investments same as SAUDI.
These Arab Leaders are now scared of the Fallout because they know Iran will attack US bases in their Country and also their Oil Facilities.
So Trump is stuck in the Middle his Jewish Handlers are rooting for War and His Aza Men in the Gulf are advising him not to
I think that’s what making Trump drag his feet
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 4:58pm On Jun 18, 2025

Chosen people of god, preventing foreigners and their families from entering bomb shelters. Saying only for Jews.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 5:01pm On Jun 18, 2025

Itamar Ben Givr to Amir Bar-Lev: 'Why Did You Provoke Iran?!?!'

We didn't realize the power of Iran's missile capabilities."
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 5:03pm On Jun 18, 2025
Obedience40:
Affirmative mate, I remembered, I had a lengthy confrontation with Appleyard about the same issue, We were all critical about the deal as it didn't had any clause on Mutual Defence, Our friends were busy telling us how it doesn't matter, how Russia was this and that, now the day of reckoning is here, they are finding different excuse for their mother Russia not to aid Iran.

😂😂🤣😂
This no be excuse. Like I said WriteerNg can't riggle around this!
Let them tell us the defense clause between US and Ukraine prompting US to intervene quickly.
Or if US is helping to Ukraine behind the scene.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by soqmeov(m): 5:03pm On Jun 18, 2025
dermmy:
Why won't they say death to America and Israel. Your evil CIA intervened in their country in the year 1953 and deposed their first democratically elected leader in a coup and imposed a brutal dictator on them. They took their destinies into their hands by removing your puppet Shah and you placed them under decades of sanctions.

Cry baby Trump. Wail and cry the more.
Let's not forget how they backed Saddam Hussein during his 8 year long brutal invasion of Iran. A war that led to the death of over 500000 Iranians. angry angry

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 5:03pm On Jun 18, 2025
With all the nonsense trump has been saying and still doing nothing. I now understand why Wall Street calls him TACO ( trump always chicken out).
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 5:06pm On Jun 18, 2025
Vic2023:
⚡️ Tasnim News Agency: Security forces arrested a university student in Ray Province after discovering that he was working for Mossad and that his phone contained instructions for manufacturing drones and explosive devices.

Just imagine the length these people will go to destabilize your economy.
Iran will learn alot of new tricks and technologies after this war.
Going forward, both US and isreal would keep looking at their back.
The new war isreal will be having will be different from others.
By the time she starts the war, drones would be taking off within her territory to blow off know positions of her ADs thereby making external missiles hit more with less resistance.
Even her F-35 locations would be under threat with this new tactics they are using in Iran and Russia
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Simeonjoe1: 5:08pm On Jun 18, 2025
obedience4:
Calm down mate, Even Prime Minister Modi will allow US assets pass through Indian airspace. There's no big deal there
😂 E dey always muzz me how people don't understand the might and reach of the empire USA.
Seems they didn't learn their history well, or they use small eyes look US.
No country has matched 50% of the US might, not even the red soviet union which is way powerful than this Putins Russia.

US no be anybody mate, even Turkeye self go open airspace when it's time.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 5:10pm On Jun 18, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
😂 E dey always muzz me how people don't understand the might and reach of the empire USA.
Seems they didn't learn their history well, or they use small eyes look US.
No country has matched 50% of the US might, not even the red soviet union which is way powerful than this Putins Russia.

US no be anybody mate, even Turkeye self go open airspace when it's time.
Where does the might always lead the evil empire into? endless quagmire and retreat from Vietnam, to Iraq to Afghanistan and even to the capitulation of Mr Trump after he had promised to bomb the Houthis into oblivion. No be everything be gragra.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 5:21pm On Jun 18, 2025
Mikasaobi:
With all the nonsense trump has been saying and still doing nothing. I now understand why Wall Street calls him TACO ( trump always chicken out).
two questions mate??

One are Iranians allowed to leave Iran right now??

Two, If you are the prime minister of Israel would you open the airspace to civilian planes??

Bonus question::, is the Iranian airspace open to civilian aircraft??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Bbbwings: 5:21pm On Jun 18, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Why is he delaying the inevitable? He should intervene if he want to intervene all this explanation is getting boring

I was thinking they conduct lie detector test for all the presidential aspirants.
Dem don cool the werey down
He was huffing and puffing yesterday.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 5:25pm On Jun 18, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
😂 E dey always muzz me how people don't understand the might and reach of the empire USA.
Seems they didn't learn their history well, or they use small eyes look US.
No country has matched 50% of the US might, not even the red soviet union which is way powerful than this Putins Russia.

US no be anybody mate, even Turkeye self go open airspace when it's time.
Economic might? Yes

But military might? Never

The Soviet Union surpassed the United States. Even current Russia surpasses the US in some areas.

The United States is nothing without support from its allies.

Na allies dey inflate their so called power.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 5:31pm On Jun 18, 2025
WritterNg:
Economic might? Yes

But military might? Never

The Soviet Union surpassed the United States. Even current Russia surpasses the US in some areas.

The United States is nothing without support from its allies.

Na allies dey inflate their so called power.
Would you name these allies please? That's if you don't mind of course. The same (according to your camp) toothless allies?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 5:37pm On Jun 18, 2025
Simeonjoe1:
This no be excuse. Like I said WriteerNg can't riggle around this!
Let them tell us the defense clause between US and Ukraine prompting US to intervene quickly.
Or if US is helping to Ukraine behind the scene.
There's nothing to wriggle for.

No one here knows what's going on behind the scenes. Russia could be sending military aide as we speak.

Take Ukraine for example, where the United States and Europe openly brag and discuss about the type and amount of weapons that will be sent to Ukraine.

Russia listens and waits for their arrival.. As soon as they arrive, Russia bombs the shipment.

In your opinion, is that a smart strategy? You think bragging about supporting someone makes you powerful?

If there's one thing I know about Russia is that they're not very loud about what they give out.

The US is just like a giver who wants the whole world to know what he's giving to others. Doesn't mean others are not doing the same.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 5:39pm On Jun 18, 2025
23jerryking:
Would you name these allies please? That's if you don't mind of course. The same (according to your camp) toothless allies?
If I may come in. How many wars have US fought and won alone without her pack of rabid wolves helping her even in the end sef all of dem go still loose and retreat.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 5:42pm On Jun 18, 2025
23jerryking:
Would you name these allies please? That's if you don't mind of course. The same (according to your camp) toothless allies?
NATO, EU, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, Philippines, Qatar, Jordan, Japan, South Korea, Australia, Argentina, New Zealand.... I could go on and on.

Virtually on every continent.

Yes they are toothless on their own, that's why they banded together in the first place.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by mikael11(m): 5:42pm On Jun 18, 2025
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