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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Blakjewelry(m): 9:08pm On Jun 22, 2025
If you take a critical look, neither the US nor iran wants to go to war.

Trump's action was childish, if you look at is twits before and after the bombing shows he is not ready to engage in war with iran but he found himself in a situation where he needs to make a statement and he did.

The bombing wasn't a surprise hit as news about the movement of the b-2 has been on for a few days don't be surprise if the Iranian were informed about an impending attack to avoid casualty.

So far so good there is no report of any casualty on the part of the Iranians, now trump feels he has acted as he should so as to project America's strength. Now the ball is in the hand of Iran.

If they don't respond it will look like they are weak but if they respond and it causes casualty to Americas personnel, then they will both find themselves in the very situation they are trying to avoid.

As for those rejoicing about the US attacking Iran's nuclear sites, I don't think those bomb will do any real damage. The worse it can do is seal the entrance or cause minor collapse were the structure is weakest.

Those bombs are design for man made structure they are not designed for a case like this, I don't think they have been tested against something like this so this present a perfect opportunity to test it.

Also I don't think the enriched uranium is still there, I seen a lot argument here and there if they were evacuated, I am very sure would have since been transferred to a secure location.

You don't need very large quantities to make a nuclear bomb or to generate power. Transferring them to a safe locate is not hard, specialized lead containers with keep radioactivity contained during transport and storage.

On the defense side of Iran, I think they should swallow their pride and go for the Russian s400 units, I don't see anything wrong in home grown tech but there is nothing wrong in operating and incorporating a wide range of air defense system.

At present the war is going to take a heavy toll on both Israel and iran. Iran will hitting main land Israel while will keep taking out high value target which is demoralizing.

Iran needs a Sam system that has a long range to fully protect it airspace.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by olutund(m): 9:09pm On Jun 22, 2025
emmaodet:
Lol.
You are coming out of your shells and fully showing your colour.
So Iran's missiles storage entrance should be blown and after manned by isreal and allies right?
Well done sir.
So that they can fully colonize Iran like the other Arab countries.
Coming and going as they wish, blowing up airports and run ways regularly as they do in Damascus, Syria and Lebanon right?
Why you jump up and shout hallelujah because God has given the children of God the control to subdue their perceived enemies? You are a fanactic bro
Religion has brainwashed the guy,
every iranian attack on his Chosen ones,
feels like heart-attack to him
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 9:11pm On Jun 22, 2025
Mikasaobi:
I understand you, but the truth is Iran has already won. When an enemy missile can hit anywhere at anytime causing massive infrastructure and economic destruction you’re doomed. What we’re seeing now is like watching an accident in slow motion, the end result is obvious. If this goes on for like 3 to 6 months Israel might not survive as a state. This is a big miscalculation of the west again ( apparently leant nothing from Russia) , they thought Iran is just a bigger Iraq. Even if usa joins the war they can’t save Israel from those ballistic missiles, they just blow up civilian infrastructure, that’s why they want peace. They miscalculated and I think Iran should accept the peace but please include Palestine.
If they want peace, they should stop attacking.
They are still attacking, while typing rubbish on the pages of a newspaper.

Iran can continue until they run out of interceptors.
Or raise the white flag officially.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:17pm On Jun 22, 2025
IMEI:
You have it backwards, it's the knesset that passed a resolution rejecting a Palestinian State
So what you are saying is Palestine
Accept their own state in Gaza right
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:20pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
So what you are saying is Palestine
Accept their own state in Gaza right
What I'm saying is that israel continues to usurp Palestinian land inorder to prevent a State being realized and it's official Israeli policy
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:22pm On Jun 22, 2025
olutund:
Religion has brainwashed the guy,
every iranian attack on his Chosen ones,
feels like heart-attack to him
Common nothing brainwashed me

I love Israel while Iran is still my friend

Am not thinking like that
I want both to have peace

Life is vanity without God
Let learn to live in peace
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:24pm On Jun 22, 2025
IMEI:
What I'm saying is that israel continues to usurp Palestinian land inorder to prevent a State being realized and it's official Israeli policy
Those places Israel usurp
Can still be taken back from Israel and given back to Palestine
So that is not an issue

The main thing is you still refusing to answer the direct question I ask
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:26pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Those places Israel usurp
Can still be taken back from Israel and given back to Palestine
So that is not an issue

The main thing is you still refusing to answer the direct question I ask
What question? That Gaza should be the Palestinian State or what? You didn't word it well enough

Moreover, israel has no intention of ejecting settlers and returning the lands to Palestinians, infact they announced just last month, the biggest land grab in history to build more settlements
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:35pm On Jun 22, 2025
IMEI:
What question? That Gaza should be the Palestinian State or what? You didn't word it well enough

Moreover, israel has no intention of ejecting settlers and returning the lands to Palestinians, infact they announced just last month, the biggest land grab in history to build more settlements
The question is
Will Palestine
Accept their own state to be in Gaza
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 9:37pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
The question is
Will Palestine
Accept their own state to be in Gaza
The question should be will israel relinquish its occupation of all legally recognized Palestinian territory which include Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Procashtips(m):
WritterNg:
The best way to deal with the west is to mirror their action.

No plenty talk, just follow their steps and replicate all their actions back at their faces.

If i were President of a rival nation, the US will shit it's pants.

These fvckers are lucky they're nicely hidden behind the ocean, if not....
Reason they don't try shit with Russia because Russia is so close to them.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 9:44pm On Jun 22, 2025
Vic2023:
🇮🇷⚡- Several Iranian Navy vessels have been deployed into the Persian Gulf.
That's moving to phase two: Iranian closure of the Strait or a mapped out strike against US forces in the region.

I think it would be in Iran's best interest to play the waiting game with regard to responding to the US attack. Meanwhile, focus should be on attacking its primary troublemaker. That way, Trump and his war planners would lose their wit and look even more confused.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 9:45pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
It not about arguing I only wanted to know your own view

OK let me ask you

Do you believe Israel have the right to exist in that land
Good question.

Does Israel have the right to exist? Yes.

Does Israel have the right to exist on Palestinian land? No.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 9:48pm On Jun 22, 2025
Blakjewelry:
If you take a critical look, neither the US nor iran wants to go to war.

Trump's action was childish, if you look at is twits before and after the bombing shows he is not ready to engage in war with iran but he found himself in a situation where he needs to make a statement and he did.

The bombing wasn't a surprise hit as news about the movement of the b-2 has been on for a few days don't be surprise if the Iranian were informed about an impending attack to avoid casualty.

So far so good there is no report of any casualty on the part of the Iranians, now trump feels he has acted as he should so as to project America's strength. Now the ball is in the hand of Iran.

If they don't respond it will look like they are weak but if they respond and it causes casualty to Americas personnel, then they will both find themselves in the very situation they are trying to avoid.

As for those rejoicing about the US attacking Iran's nuclear sites, I don't think those bomb will do any real damage. The worse it can do is seal the entrance or cause minor collapse were the structure is weakest.

Those bombs are design for man made structure they are not designed for a case like this, I don't think they have been tested against something like this so this present a perfect opportunity to test it.

Also I don't think the enriched uranium is still there, I seen a lot argument here and there if they were evacuated, I am very sure would have since been transferred to a secure location.

You don't need very large quantities to make a nuclear bomb or to generate power. Transferring them to a safe locate is not hard, specialized lead containers with keep radioactivity contained during transport and storage.

On the defense side of Iran, I think they should swallow their pride and go for the Russian s400 units, I don't see anything wrong in home grown tech but there is nothing wrong in operating and incorporating a wide range of air defense system.

At present the war is going to take a heavy toll on both Israel and iran. Iran will hitting main land Israel while will keep taking out high value target which is demoralizing.

Iran needs a Sam system that has a long range to fully protect it airspace.
The problem is not buying from Russia.
Russia has balked at most Iranian requests for transfer of technology and joint production.
But when they wanted Iran to transfer all of its Shahed drone tech to Russia, it was approved immediately.
The likely reason is that Iran is an opsec nightmare. No one is looking at Iran having to offer amnesty to catch enemy agents and thinking that's where they want your secret tech to be stationed at. Not for all the money in the world.
On the other hand, Iran, understandably, does not want to be negotiating about delivery of weapon caches in the middle of a war.

After the end of the war, there'll still be a lot of wringing, soul searching, and hard choices for everyone involved.

Also, and I have mentioned this in the past, the Iranian bifurcation of China for economic matters, Russia for security matters has to end.
China has two ships in the Persian Gulf.
Iranian missiles use Beidou for targeting and to relay mission success parameters.
China sells the vast majority of third-party components they import for their missiles.
China is bankrolling them. Khamenei should change his name to Kan Mei.
Iran probably does not want to rely on China completely, but the strategy of homegrown + third-party systems will work best with the Chinese.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:53pm On Jun 22, 2025
IMEI:
The question should be will israel relinquish its occupation of all legally recognized Palestinian territory which include Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem?
From discussing with you

Now I can clearly see why USA and Israel became really frustrated and blew up the deal discussions

And now I see why God clearly said their won't be peace in those places till the end of age
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Boysking1: 10:01pm On Jun 22, 2025
Uncle Seun allow me drop comments na, waiting I do you, I shit for your dommot ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:06pm On Jun 22, 2025
shoodboi2:
Good question.

Does Israel have the right to exist? Yes.

Does Israel have the right to exist on Palestinian land? No.
The only land I acknowledged that belongs to Palestine is Gaza

Why
Jesus was commanded never to preach outside Israel

So
During the time of Jesus, the Gaza area was the major part of the region known as Palestine,
And
Jesus never visited or preached there in Gaza


So Israel don't have the right to take Gaza land

Now hope you accept only Gaza belongs to Palestine
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:06pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
From discussing with you

Now I can clearly see why USA and Israel became really frustrated and blew up the deal discussions

And now I see why God clearly said their won't be peace in those places till the end of age
Yes israel and the US are justified in refusing Palestinians their LEGALLY recognized land

I'm sure your brain still works
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:08pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
The only land I acknowledged that belongs to Palestine is Gaza

Why
Jesus was commanded never to preach outside Israel

So
During the time of Jesus, the Gaza area was the major part of the region known as Palestine,
And
Jesus never visited or preached there in Gaza


So Israel don't have the right to take Gaza land

Now hope you accept only Gaza belongs to Palestine
You do know majority of Palestinians and majority of the people of the region don't believe in your God right? Palestinian Christians and most Middle East Christians also don't agree with you

How are you better than boko haram for example?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 10:12pm On Jun 22, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Iran must not fall for it. These people wiped out their military structure with a sneak attack and threatened their supreme leader. You don't just make peace with such people if you have the means to keep fighting.
You may be right, that’s like threatening to kill the pope.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:19pm On Jun 22, 2025
“Israeli” media:

57,000 “Israelis” have permanently settled in Morocco since the Gaza “war” began, and they may reach 200,000 if the conflict with Iran continues.

“Israeli” liaison office in Rabat formed a crisis cell to track arrivals. Hotel prices double due to demand.

go back to where you come from
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:20pm On Jun 22, 2025
“Israeli” media: A state of displacement in Tel Aviv. Fears are growing. Iranian missiles struck today near a shelter, destroying parts of it.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:23pm On Jun 22, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
The only land I acknowledged that belongs to Palestine is Gaza

Why
Jesus was commanded never to preach outside Israel

So
During the time of Jesus, the Gaza area was the major part of the region known as Palestine,
And
Jesus never visited or preached there in Gaza


So Israel don't have the right to take Gaza land

Now hope you accept only Gaza belongs to Palestine
Moreover stop pretending you're against the US or NATO when their 'evil' actions as you describe it, is what enables them to protect israel and ensures the US acts as a guarantor for Israel

Drop the mask
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 10:23pm On Jun 22, 2025
I think the guy wey dey block person don come back, one of my accounts don chop blocking right now
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 10:24pm On Jun 22, 2025


Chosen ones refusing orders from the battle god to fight for the promised land and going back to Europe. But the battle god is not offended because chosen ones can do whatever they want, they are in a sense god.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by IMEI: 10:26pm On Jun 22, 2025
Vic2023:
I think the guy wey dey block person don come back, one of my accounts don chop blocking right now
Dem go block taya
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vic2023: 10:28pm On Jun 22, 2025
⚡️Venezuela: We condemn the US military's bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities, at the request of the Israeli government.

We consider it an illegal and extremely dangerous aggression that cannot be justified in any way and could lead to unforeseeable consequences for global stability.

It is a direct threat to international peace.

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