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Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by hartson: 11:46am On Jun 24, 2025
Karlman:
Hmm!
Those who have produced, how are they farering? Are they any better than those who haven't? What exactly have the people from those places who have produced benefited that others who haven't produced haven't benefited.

Look, let's be serious for once in this shithole.

Nobody is talking about Hausas again in this country, they have been forgotten completely except for the use of their language.
As we speak there is no Hausa governor in the entire northern Nigeria, neither is there any Hausa Emir in the whole of the North. And to cap it all, Hausas have never ruled Nigeria.

Why is it that nobody is talking about the total capitulation of the Hausa man who I believe is likely the largest of all the tribes.

Everything that belongs to them has been taken over and no one seems to notice.

...simply put, Nigeria has happened to the Hausas and they themselves ain't even aware. That's the irony.
"everything that belongs to hausa tribe has been taken by who?by igbos abi?
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 11:47am On Jun 24, 2025
mrvitalis:
Show me one economics text book wheew Igr is used as a measure of development and get 200k
grin tell us what is used then? Person wey never chop won dash me 200k mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂😂
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by mrvitalis(m): 11:55am On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
grin tell us what is used then? Person wey never chop won dash me 200k mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂😂
U no sabi how to use Google? Which school u go abeg grin
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Originalsly: 11:57am On Jun 24, 2025
This makes no sense to me. Isn't it the same it's my turn mentality that has the country in the gutters today? Why would we even think of applying it again? ... doing the same but expecting different results? We need to find the best candidate period. A d yes...Inagree with MosakuAW ...100%.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 12:01pm On Jun 24, 2025
mrvitalis:
So why didn't we vote PDP in 2023 let me guess because igbo man ran in the person of Obi?

Lol ojukwu, oriji kalu and the rest were not Igbo abi?
hahhaha you not as smart as y’all claim to be😂😂😂what was the chances of winning the elections by the people you mentioned? Would ojukwu have won the election under a regional party like apuga? Or those other people you mentioned that are just regional leaders that can’t win a national election…. Like I said, everyone knows yeebos have always been pdp slaves not till last election when obi couldn’t get the pdp ticket and chickened out😂😂😂but you can continue deceiving yourself with that narrative like I said😂😂😂
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 12:11pm On Jun 24, 2025
moscow007:
Sadly u still fail to mention what SouthEast benefits from Nigeria, however I will indulge u for the sake of further domesticating and if possible educate you.
I sincerely doubt if u would mention business migration if only u've ever left ogbomosho, Igbos businesses are thriving in Ghana and South Africa we don't need Nigeria to prevail as a Nation.

When it comes to resources SouthEast contributes over 40% of Nigeria Gas export.

Anambra-Imo basin has over 3 trillion cubic feets of Natural Gas - untapped...in comparison Russian is leading the world with 3.7 cubic feets.

Once again, what do SouthEast uniquely benefit from being in Nigeria?
😂😂😂otondo….so I must visit SE to know that people tend to migrate for economic reasons and not the warped logic you lot try to make us believe 🤣🤣🤣

Everyone knows SE is less economically viable and that’s why the migration drift has Always been from the east to the west cheesy incase you care to know, I served in imo state and did my camp in Umuna bende Abia state grin

What are the industries that support your economy in SE? Owerri alone as more hotels than industries😂😂😂 with olosho everywhere🤣🤣🤣

And back to your question, the infrastructure constructed in alaibo, and most recently 2nd Niger brigde and the rest is called what? Is that not one of the benefits? Despite the fact that you contribute less😂😂oyo state alone is more viable than your land

Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Dchampion65: 12:16pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Don't trust Atiku promise of one term and Obi become president. Northerner are serial betrayer.
Ask obasanjo what Atiku did to him. It was destiny that make his to get second term.
For Tinubu, we all knew what Buhari did if not for fate.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by tunjijones(m): 12:19pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Only the alliance have a chance to defeat Tinubu.

Not that it's 100 percent sure that they will defeat.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Karlman: 12:43pm On Jun 24, 2025
hartson:
"everything that belongs to hausa tribe has been taken by who?by igbos abi?
Are you asking to be educated or doubting to remain ignorant?
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Metrofox(m): 1:16pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
then let atiku continue to try alone till he is 101 years
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 1:42pm On Jun 24, 2025
mrvitalis:
U no sabi how to use Google? Which school u go abeg grin
grin Otondo..you claimed Gdp is not a standard to measure development, and I ask you to give us one, and you are directing me to Google? Most of you illiterate just come online to talk about things you barely have economic knowledge of……this is the same clown that was asking what the economic value of 3rd mainland bridge is to the economy some time ago in our argument grin

Afterall, you not so bright as you claim to be😂😂😂😂
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by mrvitalis(m): 1:54pm On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
grin Otondo..you claimed Gdp is not a standard to measure development, and I ask you to give us one, and you are directing me to Google? Most of you illiterate just come online to talk about things you barely have economic knowledge of……this is the same clown that was asking what the economic value of 3rd mainland bridge is to the economy some time ago in our argument grin

Afterall, you not so bright as you claim to be😂😂😂😂
Where did I say GDP is not a measure of development?

You think IGR and GDP are the same? And he is calling me olodo? Lmaooo the irony

I'm from IMO the second largest GDP in Nigeria with zero federal government input

See who is talking about GDP to someone from IMO?

Education IMO is number one
Second in GDP without being ex capital
Infant mortality?
School attendance?
Hospital birth?
HDI?

Bros go sleep you no get talk
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Mirasteel: 2:12pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
I don't think they will ever let an igbo be president maybe vice president.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by mrvitalis(m): 2:19pm On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
😂😂😂😂the usual empty noise without substance….mention the industries that generated the mgbeke gdp Abi na Una hotels that litter every street and corner that generated that?😂😂🤣🤣

You must think you talking to one of those Yorubas you gaslight into living their region and travel to your barren land thats just the size of oyo state, but still can’t boast of infrastructure and economical viability that oyo state boast of😂😂😂

The stats are there and I posted one to you just now so, you can continue living in your delusion while reality hit differently grin

You may be the most educated in SE region but not even close to yorubaland😂😂most of the A list schools are in Sw and we have more infrastructure and professors than your region and also research institutes. Mention one in your entire region?

It’s not even a topic for discussion that SW is still the most educated region which free education was our benchmark which some of your ancestors benefited from and till date most Igbo still make Schools in Sw their school of first choice grin
Hotels generate massive economic currency

Hospitality is an industry but I guess you don't know that abi

Because economic capital was generated by hospitality industry doesn't in any way make it inferior to one generated by manufacturing

That aside we have a functional refinery, we have the largest gas processing plant in Nigeria, we have thousands of smaller industries too

There is no Yoruba state that has better literacy rating than IMO... I dare you to name any and provide evidence
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 3:02pm On Jun 24, 2025
mrvitalis:
Hotels generate massive economic currency

Hospitality is an industry but I guess you don't know that abi

Because economic capital was generated by hospitality industry doesn't in any way make it inferior to one generated by manufacturing

That aside we have a functional refinery, we have the largest gas processing plant in Nigeria, we have thousands of smaller industries too

There is no Yoruba state that has better literacy rating than IMO... I dare you to name any and provide evidence
😂🤣🤣 indeed you must be really slow and not bright at all……which tourism site do you have in owerri? I served in owerri 2017 and also did my camp in Umuna bende Abia state. Pls mention the tourism site that you think is generating revenue that amount to the allege gdp you have not even given us verifiable stats for?

So in your warped logic hotels generate more revenue or tax than industries which also create employment and GDP than an hotel? Go and educate yourself on what Gdp is before you come online to display your ignorance.

Secondly you talked about refinery and also mentioned gas, if we are to follow your warped logic, what of state that produces more crude than your state, why don’t they have higher gdp ? State like rivers should be number one.

I asked again name one research institute you have in alaibo not even just imo and what higher institutions of learning do you have that can be compared to the ones in Sw? You really make me laff😂😂

If you say you are the most educated and literate in SE region,then i can agree with you, but comparing IMO state in educational prowess and yorubaland is just laughable😂😂😂

Yorubas have always been known as a hub of education with Sw introducing free education in the country which your ancestors benefited from and some of your generation are still benefitting from, Go to our schools and See your ibo tribes in there numbers compared to Yorubas that travel to your region for higher learning grin but like I said, you can continue deceiving yourself😂😂😂
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by mrvitalis(m): 3:13pm On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
😂🤣🤣 indeed you must be really slow and not bright at all……which tourism site do you have in owerri? I served in owerri 2017 and also did my camp in Umuna bende Abia state. Pls mention the tourism site that you think is generating revenue that amount to the allege gdp you have not even given us verifiable stats for?

So in your warped logic hotels generate more revenue or tax than industries which also create employment and GDP than an hotel? Go and educate yourself on what Gdp is before you come online to display your ignorance.

Secondly you talked about refinery and also mentioned gas, if we are to follow your warped logic, what of state that produces more crude than your state, why don’t they have higher gdp ? State like rivers should be number one.

I asked again name one research institute you have in alaibo not even just imo and what higher institutions of learning do you have that can be compared to the ones in Sw? You really make me laff😂😂

If you say you are the most educated and literate in SE region,then i can agree with you, but comparing IMO state in educational prowess and yorubaland is just laughable😂😂😂

Yorubas have always been known as a hub of education with Sw introducing free education in the country which your ancestors benefited from and some of your generation are still benefitting from, Go to our schools and See your ibo tribes in there numbers compared to Yorubas that travel to your region for higher learning grin but like I said, you can continue deceiving yourself😂😂😂
The ignorance from you is funny
Hospitality industry doesn't have to he linked to tourism ... Owerri is a choice holiday destination known for its vibrant night life... That's bigger than any industry in your state

Shame no even allow you name your state

We are talking about over 2000 hotels, that's over 50,000 direct staff being conservative... Welcoming millions of visitors yearly and baba thinks it doesn't count because it's not a factory Lmaooo

Hotels are industry, they employ people generate revenue and profit for investors

As for research institutions in Igbo land they are many

I didn't even include the health tourism in IMO state ooh... The best and cheapest place to get cancer treatment in Nigeria are two hospitals in IMO

Why are we even arguing ? GDP of IMO is second in Nigeria that sums it up... If upi don't know what GDP means read it up n stop showing ignorance
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by lailo: 3:17pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
Funny Nigga... grin grin

I am not Igbo but I still support the PDP...

And I know that the only way for Peter Obi to smell Aso Rock is to align with a strong Northern candidate.

Jagaban against Peter Obi in the next election will be stroll in the park for Jagaban. Obi will be defeated squarely.

Northerners will not vote for him because they know that he will be there for 8 years

But with Peter Obi behind Atiku Abubakar, the North will fall in line,

Atiku Abubakar will then do his best as president then Peter Obi can then succeed him...

Any other arrangements outside of this is a waste of time...
Primary school analysis.
If una like put Atiku + Obi + Kwankwanso+ Elrufai + Sanusi+ Ndume, Tinubu go flog all of them silly. grin
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by lailo: 3:26pm On Jun 24, 2025
nony43:
Sorry Nnamdi Azikiwe was not an elected President. He is ceremonial President, a Prime minister was ahead of him, Aguiyi Ironsi was there for 6 Months as Military . There is one from Igbo extraction that has been President elected and served full term . For now let’s stay on his op discourse. Create your own thread let’s talk.
Anyone can choose a narrative that suit them. I have chosen mine, u can choose yours. But:
1. Can you deny that Nigeria's first ever president is an igbo man in the person of Nnamdi Azikwe?
2. Can you deny that the third president of Nigeria is an igbo man in the person of Aguiyi Ironsi? Wether military or civilian, tell me the man no rule Nigeria.
3. Can u deny that in the second republic an igbo man was democratically elected as Vice President and served two consecutive times in the person of Alex Ekwueme?
4. Can u deny that from 1999, the igbos have produced more Senate presidents than any other region in Nigeria?
So where is the maginalisation?
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Konquest:
SlavaUkraini:
That's a big lie...

You guys really care, that is why you guys voted overwhelmingly for Peter Obi in the last election.

There is nothing wrong in admitting that you want power to come to your region...
Succinctly stated.

The egotistic guy you responded to is just a big hypocrite from Mbaise where he says he's from.

Over 95% of ALL the votes in the Ibo-speaking States of the South East went to ONLY Peter Obi while Yorubaland and the various Northern States were even more liberal and less tribalistic in voting across the various parties with especially segments of Yoruba Xtians in Lagos State forming the bulwark of voters that made Peter win Lagos State by just 3,000 votes ahead of the current Nigerian President 'Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Osun State too gave more votes to Atiku Abubakar over President Tinubu who lost narrowly again but still had his one-third of votes cast from Lagos and Osun States regardless. So, some of the Ibos just pretend out of ego, they have vested interests in Nigerian politics.
Even during the President Goodluck years, we saw how vociferous they were in supporting PDP in TAN and other campaign groups and the use of online propaganda simply because some of their kinsmen played prominent roles in GEJ's government.

His Ibo kinsmen are living all over Nigeria and benefiting from living in Nigeria despite the inneficiences which other ethnicities are experiencing too. A survey that was done sometime back by Cheta Nwanze's SBM Intelligence (Cheta is the Lead Partner at SBM Intelligence indicates that the Ibos insist that even if they are granted independence from Nigeria to get their own country, they would still prefer to stay on in the various states they are currently domiciled. So,who is fooling who here?
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by suleimanshehu: 3:55pm On Jun 24, 2025
We thought, they attempt similar ticket in 2019 and failed. Why will it work this time, now that Peter Obi is aware that he can score 6M votes on his own without the support of the elite or even having elected party structure before 2023 election, that even till date some fools & fake black Jews claimed he won the election hands down.
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by dalass(f): 4:13pm On Jun 24, 2025
MosakuAW:
The structure of choosing President in this country has been wrong from the beginning. The military choose the president for us in 1999 by wanting the power to go to the South West to appeal of losing out with MKO. Since then, all the political parties now have zoning in all electoral position.

The same thing with educational sector in the country. During my University admission in 1999, I scored 240 in UMT, I was not admitted but someone with 210 from Kogi, Kwara and Benue where admitted before me because my state of origin is Ogun state. Kogi, Kwara, Benue and some norther states were considered as ELDS (Educational Less Developed State) which is insane.

Naija is gone unless we do away with tribalism, religion and favourism and accept competence. Forget which ever zone that rule last, whoever is competent and from any zone shoud govern the people.
1999 was the wisest choice ever with Obasanjo. His experience brought stability to a nation that has experienced several coup detats and military takeovers.... Obj stabilized the political system to long lasting democracy.

The worst decisions was Azikiwe who was more popular playing second fiddle to a Tafawa Balewa as whites handed over to indigenous rulers... The next was igbo coup that killed along ethnic lines (Hausa, Fulanis and Yorubas) while sparing their own.

The North Central enjoyed when they brought in some rulers too as military head of states. So all have been represented. Let democracy rule and not " we are yet to rule since 1999" grin

The education and a lot of sectors are skewed to favour north before Nigerian independence! Restructuring is a must for true prosperity and progress
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by sreamsense: 4:17pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Even if two of them combine together, they will still fail because their individual party strength has reduced. Where are the majority of house of rep members, governors and senators that used their platforms to get elected and secured huge vote for each party to secure 2nd and 3rd? They have almost decamped finish. Many of these that decamped from both parties are heavy weight and breadwinners.

LP can not win Lagos or Abuja again to carry success for Atiku in 2027; and PDP can not win south south again to carry success to LP for combined success because many SS have decamped and still decamping. El- rufai party can not even fly because they can't have enough to decamp to it before election. Atiku is only using that one as plan B in case primary never favours him in PDP in 2027. So, APC and Tinubu will still win with wide margin
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by nony43(m): 4:17pm On Jun 24, 2025
lailo:
Anyone can choose a narrative that suit them. I have chosen mine, u can choose yours. But:
1. Can you deny that Nigeria's first ever president is an igbo man in the person of Nnamdi Azikwe?
2. Can you deny that the third president of Nigeria is an igbo man in the person of Aguiyi Ironsi? Wether military or civilian, tell me the man no rule Nigeria.
3. Can u deny that in the second republic an igbo man was democratically elected as Vice President and served two consecutive times in the person of Alex Ekwueme?
4. Can u deny that from 1999, the igbos have produced more Senate presidents than any other region in Nigeria?
So where is the maginalisation?
Please stay in the discourse. There is no democratically elected President in all you mentioned. SW has produced more both Military and democratic.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Coolgent(m): 4:38pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
you are absolutely right
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by aribisala0(m): 4:57pm On Jun 24, 2025
North Central will get their turn

South East is forbidden

They are not among
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Bullet4thiefnub: 5:08pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
This is the truth and unless any one is being naive this is the only path to removing the tribal supremacist in power , the anti Nigeria party in power
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