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Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by CapitalBank: 5:08pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Why didn't the alliance he did with Okowa in 2023 defeat Tinubu? You people are not ready to tell yourself the truth but don't worry. APC will ruin your lives for 100 years.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by pandax: 6:23pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
The South East now have a chance to produce a Vice President if Peter Obi will team up with Atiku Abubakar in the upcoming election....

Only that Alliance can defeat Jagaban

If Peter Obi contest alone, he will lose

If Atiku Abubakar contest alone, he will lose

When Atiku Abubakar is done with his Presidency, then Peter Obi can become president.

Just watch as Obidients will disagree with me on this..
Aside from Goodluck Jonathan, who became President due to the death of his predecessor, has there ever been a time in Nigeria’s democratic history when a Vice President assumed the presidency after completing their term?

Obi will not become a vice to Atiku; we would prefer a hung election with no winner, then a run off
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Hassanmaye(m): 6:32pm On Jun 24, 2025
DrMB:
Since 1999, two zones have never produced a President or Vice President. Meanwhile, others have had their turn at the top:
For the offence of killing sardauna by ekeme funa, and kaduna, ojuku and east Will never ever smell presidency till eternity, This is fact
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Greenback: 6:56pm On Jun 24, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
We also beg people like you to stop lying and behaving as if you don't care about the Presidency or Power...

Thanks and have a lovely day
Reason why I still beg you to always use your brains as not everyone you see on here is from that region...in your head everyone is from that region,good morning
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by lailo: 7:28pm On Jun 24, 2025
nony43:
Please stay in the discourse. There is no democratically elected President in all you mentioned. SW has produced more both Military and democratic.
Has North central and North East also produced democratically elected president since 1999? Is Nigeria ending today? Only 3 regions out of six have produced democratically elected president since the return of democracy. Is it only South East who is yet to produce democratically elected president? Then what is special about SE and not good for NE and NC? Or is it not democracy again. Is democracy not by election again? Is Nigeria ending today? Who tell you other region will not get elected through democracy. Abeg comot cry
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by chucks185: 8:33pm On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
pls explain that to us? Atleast we don’t practice Osu caste system and we don’t see one state superior to the other like you call some people wawa grin even religion intolerance but here in Sw, Yoruba comes first before religion, that’s why we are still the most liberal and progressive region every Nigerian migrate to for economic development grin
All this you wrote here didn't stop 99.9% southeasterners from voting for Obi in 2023 election
While didn't win up to 60% in the Southwest
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by nony43(m): 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2025
lailo:
Has North central and North East also produced democratically elected president since 1999? Is Nigeria ending today? Only 3 regions out of six have produced democratically elected president since the return of democracy. Is it only South East who is yet to produce democratically elected president? Then what is special about SE and not good for NE and NC? Or is it not democracy again. Is democracy not by election again? Is Nigeria ending today? Who tell you other region will not get elected through democracy. Abeg comot cry
I don’t understand your source of anger, when Presidency is zoned to the North, it is up to them to decide if NW should keep dribbling them. So far SW and SS has been there, it’s turn of the SE.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 9:04pm On Jun 24, 2025
chucks185:
All this you wrote here didn't stop 99.9% southeasterners from voting for Obi in 2023 election
While didn't win up to 60% in the Southwest
grin that’s the liberal nature of the Yorubas in action…..we don’t all sleep and face one side grin this is why laugh when ibos claim not to be tribalist because if Yorubas had not voted for your agulu messiah in Lagos, there was no way in hell he could have won.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Abaki5: 9:21pm On Jun 24, 2025
The ones that have produce presidents what gain did them achieve apart from looting no differences btw those that have produce president and the ones that have not produce
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by lailo: 10:37pm On Jun 24, 2025
nony43:
I don’t understand your source of anger, when Presidency is zoned to the North, it is up to them to decide if NW should keep dribbling them. So far SW and SS has been there, it’s turn of the SE.
Nigerians will decide that and not Awalokan cry
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by chucks185: 11:21pm On Jun 24, 2025
ProudlyLagos:
grin that’s the liberal nature of the Yorubas in action…..we don’t all sleep and face one side grin this is why laugh when ibos claim not to be tribalist because if Yorubas had not voted for your agulu messiah in Lagos, there was no way in hell he could have won.
Whatever you call it, but the point is we have agreed that the Igbos are more united and speak with one voice.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by ProudlyLagos: 11:27pm On Jun 24, 2025
chucks185:
Whatever you call it, but the point is we have agreed that the Igbos are more united and speak with one voice.
grin indeed with your primitive Osu caste system and wawa nonsense 😂😂😂
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Fearurcreeator: 6:22am On Jun 25, 2025
MosakuAW:
The structure of choosing President in this country has been wrong from the beginning. The military choose the president for us in 1999 by wanting the power to go to the South West to appeal of losing out with MKO. Since then, all the political parties now have zoning in all electoral position.

The same thing with educational sector in the country. During my University admission in 1999, I scored 240 in UMT, I was not admitted but someone with 210 from Kogi, Kwara and Benue where admitted before me because my state of origin is Ogun state. Kogi, Kwara, Benue and some norther states were considered as ELDS (Educational Less Developed State) which is insane.

Naija is gone unless we do away with tribalism, religion and favourism and accept competence. Forget which ever zone that rule last, whoever is competent and from any zone shoud govern the people.
Tinubu is better then, if its Obi to you go to Anambra
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Fearurcreeator: 6:28am On Jun 25, 2025
crossfm:
Hehehe.

They will say this doesn't matter.

And no marginalisation .

The people of North Central are even more marginalized in my opinion. Power always comes to the North,but they are always ignored.
The people of North Central are only good for bringing massive vote's,but not good for rulling the country. I have had this theory often,that for one to win the president,the person must will the North Central,yet they are always been relegated when it's time to chose the president or vice.

As for South East, the hate is real. They believe they are too smart to be given the president. You want one Nigeria,but you don't want a section of Nigeria to be the president,what an irony.

We all know the truth,but we will all pretend that it's not the truth. No region has monopoly of rulling. Nigeria should give sense of belonging to every region and you will see peace and progress.

When next power is to go back to the North,let it be the North Central.
They hate igbos too in South Africa, now see what they are doing almost every week in India. Who will vote people thats always behaving they are superior to others . Just dey play . Till the end of the world they might never rule this country with that kind of behavior. They can't handle power . You will go to another mans land to be dragging them there for what cus they accommodated them. If their region is that good why are people not rushing there. Yeye tribe. For the north central their matter get as e be . Last two presidents from the north are from katsina sef i no understand why sef
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Fearurcreeator: 6:29am On Jun 25, 2025
southsouthking:
And yet everyone is claiming one Nigeria.
What happened to justice, fairness and equity.
Wetin be Obi's doing for Anambra
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Shaketable: 8:05am On Jun 25, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
And you are what ?

A human that eats her offspring.... A cannibal ?

I mentioned Obidients because they don't seem to understand that Peter Obi can never win the Presidency without forming an alliance with a strong Northern candidate like Atiku Abubakar.

I have had that discussion with some of them in this forum in the past

Peter Obi will be defeated a hundred times without the backing of the North...

And now that the South South is almost now in Tinubu's pocket, Peter Obi's path to the Presidency is fast becoming slim....

FYI.... I still support the PDP.
Obi might not win presidency but a northern candidate won't either. As long as it is a northern candidate against Tinubu in his second term they won't win.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Donykua: 8:25am On Jun 25, 2025
Regions produced presidents while zones produced V.Ps and others.
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 9:20pm On Jun 25, 2025
Greenback:
Reason why I still beg you to always use your brains as not everyone you see on here is from that region...in your head everyone is from that region,good morning
Reason why I dey beg people like you to think before typing...

Who is referring to people from a particular region here ?

Definitely not me but the fellow that mentioned me initially....

So use your brain 🧠🧠🧠 next time

Good night
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 9:25pm On Jun 25, 2025
pandax:
Aside from Goodluck Jonathan, who became President due to the death of his predecessor, has there ever been a time in Nigeria’s democratic history when a Vice President assumed the presidency after completing their term?

Obi will not become a vice to Atiku; we would prefer a hung election with no winner, then a run off
There is a first time for everything...

Peter Obi can be that VP that succeeds his principal in Aso Rock
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 9:32pm On Jun 25, 2025
CapitalBank:
Why didn't the alliance he did with Okowa in 2023 defeat Tinubu? You people are not ready to tell yourself the truth but don't worry. APC will ruin your lives for 100 years.
The Alliance with Okowa did not work because the Opposition was not united....

Places that would have naturally voted for the PDP gave their votes to LP or APC...

If only the Opposition can be united, they will surely uproot the APC from power...
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 9:48pm On Jun 25, 2025
sreamsense:
Even if two of them combine together, they will still fail because their individual party strength has reduced. Where are the majority of house of rep members, governors and senators that used their platforms to get elected and secured huge vote for each party to secure 2nd and 3rd? They have almost decamped finish. Many of these that decamped from both parties are heavy weight and breadwinners.

LP can not win Lagos or Abuja again to carry success for Atiku in 2027; and PDP can not win south south again to carry success to LP for combined success because many SS have decamped and still decamping. El- rufai party can not even fly because they can't have enough to decamp to it before election. Atiku is only using that one as plan B in case primary never favours him in PDP in 2027. So, APC and Tinubu will still win with wide margin
I disagree...

Don't forget that Peter Obi did not win in Lagos, Abuja, Plaetue, Nassarawa, Cross River because of party strength or structure

He won in those areas because the people loved and believe in his capacity to deliver

Same thing with Atiku Abubakar up North...

Northerners see him as someone that have answers to their problems.

When you have organic love from the Electorates, then you can forget about party strength or structure

Because the Electorates are the ones that strengthen a party.

State Governors and National Assembly members can defect to a different party but if the Electorates are not defecting with you, then that is an effort in futility...
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 9:52pm On Jun 25, 2025
suleimanshehu:
We thought, they attempt similar ticket in 2019 and failed. Why will it work this time, now that Peter Obi is aware that he can score 6M votes on his own without the support of the elite or even having elected party structure before 2023 election, that even till date some fools & fake black Jews claimed he won the election hands down.
With the first attempt, they got more votes than what Tinubu got in 2023...

If they decide to contest together again, then they will surely give the APC a run for their money...
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by richie240: 9:59pm On Jun 25, 2025
That's the more reason they should hold on to it till they have something to show for it.

Thanks for your deep insight!
cool
NSK4U:
Yet those that continue to produce have nothing to show for it
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 10:01pm On Jun 25, 2025
Zocalite:
Well

What you said is political calculations

Do you believe obi can pull more votes like in 2023 as Atiku deputy in 2027

Politically I support Atiku cos of his restructuring stands

But I don't think obi can pull vote as deputy and I think he knows
Looking at the results from 2019 and 2023 you can tell that if Peter Obi had been the VP candidate to Atiku Abubakar then they would have won the last concluded elections...

What basically happened in 2023 was that their 2019 votes were shared between the Peter Obi and Atiku Abubakar..
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by Zocalite: 1:19pm On Jun 26, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
Looking at the results from 2019 and 2023 you can tell that if Peter Obi had been the VP candidate to Atiku Abubakar then they would have won the last concluded elections...

What basically happened in 2023 was that their 2019 votes were shared between the Peter Obi and Atiku Abubakar..
I get your analysis of 2023, it's the fact
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by sreamsense: 3:37pm On Jun 26, 2025
SlavaUkraini:
I disagree...

Don't forget that Peter Obi did not win in Lagos, Abuja, Plaetue, Nassarawa, Cross River because of party strength or structure

He won in those areas because the people loved and believe in his capacity to deliver

Same thing with Atiku Abubakar up North...

Northerners see him as someone that have answers to their problems.

When you have organic love from the Electorates, then you can forget about party strength or structure

Because the Electorates are the ones that strengthen a party.

State Governors and National Assembly members can defect to a different party but if the Electorates are not defecting with you, then that is an effort in futility...
There was nothing like organic love for his win in Lagos. Yorubas in Lagos that were majorly christians in feared of muslim-muslim then had no alternative than to vote Obi because Atiku was not in option for them being from the north. Don't forget that even the vote difference was not up to 10,000. And now that Tinubu has been found not to be Islamic addict for governance and Obi party has been more exposed to ridicule, he can't win Lagos or Abuja again.The fear of Muslim-muslim had been removed and many churches can no longer offer Obi their platform for political welcome because Tinubu had shown he has no religion bigotry.

So, many people that voted for Obi then are now on the side of Tinubu. South south people in Lagos now will likely vote for Tinubu because all most all their leaders are now in APC with more to come unlike before. Majority of political leaders defecting to APC are bread winners and political influencers; you will be surprised that the defeat of Obi will be too wide this time around. Even more Igbos are now in support of Tinubu than the 2023 because more Igbos have defected to APC via LP and PDP.

Tinubu will get more votes than he did before. Jonathan and Patience are now even openly supporting Tinubu, performance of wike has changed Abuja, they will surely want him again by voting for Tinubu so he can come back. So, stop deceiving yourself, Obi can't come close to what he got before, he can't win Akwa Ibom and delta again. Real politicians that have seen realities from afar are now decamping to APC while you are still being blindfolded by self deceit
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by NSK4U(m): 5:03pm On Jun 26, 2025
richie240:
That's the more reason they should hold on to it till they have something to show for it.

Thanks for your deep insight!
cool
I support it because I just wonder how they would become if they stopped producing president. If their region has remained world almajiris despite continued presidency, one would imagine what they would turn to if they are no longer occupying it. Thank you too for your understanding
Re: Since 1999, Two Zones Never Produced A President Or Vice President by SlavaUkraini: 8:14pm On Jun 26, 2025
sreamsense:
There was nothing like organic love for his win in Lagos. Yorubas in Lagos that were majorly christians in feared of muslim-muslim then had no alternative than to vote Obi because Atiku was not in option for them being from the north. Don't forget that even the vote difference was not up to 10,000. And now that Tinubu has been found not to be Islamic addict for governance and Obi party has been more exposed to ridicule, he can't win Lagos or Abuja again.The fear of Muslim-muslim had been removed and many churches can no longer offer Obi their platform for political welcome because Tinubu had shown he has no religion bigotry.

So, many people that voted for Obi then are now on the side of Tinubu. South south people in Lagos now will likely vote for Tinubu because all most all their leaders are now in APC with more to come unlike before. Majority of political leaders defecting to APC are bread winners and political influencers; you will be surprised that the defeat of Obi will be too wide this time around. Even more Igbos are now in support of Tinubu than the 2023 because more Igbos have defected to APC via LP and PDP.

Tinubu will get more votes than he did before. Jonathan and Patience are now even openly supporting Tinubu, performance of wike has changed Abuja, they will surely want him again by voting for Tinubu so he can come back. So, stop deceiving yourself, Obi can't come close to what he got before, he can't win Akwa Ibom and delta again. Real politicians that have seen realities from afar are now decamping to APC while you are still being blindfolded by self deceit
You can keep on deceiving yourself with your weak epistemologies that lacks practical applications.
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