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dvkot:
Russia values it relationship with Saudi Arabia way more than iran...Russia has a balance relationship with Iran and Israel, i really don't know why you guys can't understand this.

Raynald:
So you now believe in fake news
I dont bother reading news from cnn and NYT

WritterNg:
⚡Iran says 700 people arrested for spying for Israel over 12 days; around 10,000 drones seized in Tehran alone.

FoolishBoy419:
Majority of them are Afghans

And good luck to anyone facing this guy at the court.

Michaeltreasure:
I love this thread alot, but the level of narrative twisting to change facts here is extreme. Israel truly got a bleeding nose in this conflict but to say that Iran, who lost top military and civilian leaders, with a Mossad infested defense system, won the war should be the comedy pinnacle of the century.
Someone here was saying that Israel hid much of her casualties, meanwhile the Internet was shut down in Iran all through.
I can't imagine celebrating victory after a fight that killed the members of my team, no member of my opponent team is dead, and a ceasefire that was planned and brokered by my opponents team. That's the joke of the decade.
Few pro Iranians here have seen through the thing. Celebrating mediocrity is nonsensical. Iran needs to up their game. Their intelligence is whack. They're always in the defensive instead of in the offensive, they always wait for Israel to attack before standing up to act. They are always caught off guard. Haniyeh was killed in Tehran of all places and people here are celebrating imaginary Iranian victory.
Will Putin celebrate if Ukraine takes out his top scientists and generals right in the heart of Moscow? Sounds stupid right?

shoodboi2:
Yep. Only a fraction of Mossad's spies in Iran are Iranian. The majority are foreigners posing as tourists or workers. Then, there are the dual-citizens who are part Iranians and part foreigners.

This is actually interesting considering I always thought Iranians were the ones doing the spying.

The spying thing goes both ways too. The Shin Bet in Israel has been picking up Iranian spies in Israel.

Michaeltreasure:
I love this thread alot, but the level of narrative twisting to change facts here is extreme. Israel truly got a bleeding nose in this conflict but to say that Iran, who lost top military and civilian leaders, with a Mossad infested defense system, won the war should be the comedy pinnacle of the century.
Someone here was saying that Israel hid much of her casualties, meanwhile the Internet was shut down in Iran all through.
I can't imagine celebrating victory after a fight that killed the members of my team, no member of my opponent team is dead, and a ceasefire that was planned and brokered by my opponents team. That's the joke of the decade.
Few pro Iranians here have seen through the thing. Celebrating mediocrity is nonsensical. Iran needs to up their game. Their intelligence is whack. They're always in the defensive instead of in the offensive, they always wait for Israel to attack before standing up to act. They are always caught off guard. Haniyeh was killed in Tehran of all places and people here are celebrating imaginary Iranian victory.
Will Putin celebrate if Ukraine takes out his top scientists and generals right in the heart of Moscow? Sounds stupid right?

FoolishBoy419:
Same thing here. One thing the war has shown us is that Iran is not as divided as the media wants us to believe. The people may hate the Mullahs but don't necessarily hate them more than they hate US foreign policy

shoodboi2:
Victory is not evaluated based on casualties. It is evaluated based on objectives. Did Israel achieve its military objectives?

The answer is no and that is by a wide margin. Israel didn't even achieve its secondary objectives not to talk of the primary one.

Did Iran achieve its military objectives? The answer is yes. It prevented regime change and protected its nuclear program from destruction. It also established deterrence, which made even the US and Saudi Arabia to tread carefully.

The war also exposed the Mossad cells in Iran and Iran has been collapsing them in numbers. This part was so successful that Iran prevented lots of drone and spike missiles attacks from just collapsing these cells.

The presence of these Mossad cells in Iran also implicated Israel and even the US itself. Iran busted Mossad drone manufacturing factories and warehouses right inside Tehran. This shows the Israeli attack was a sophisticated program that has been in the works for years.

In other words, Israel had planned this operation for years. This clearly makes Israel the aggressor rather than the victim.

As for the Internet shutdown, there are two reasons for this. The first is that Iran's network infrastructure came under an Israeli cyberattack at some point.

The second is that Mossad controls those drones using internet provided by Iranian sim cards. (The same thing happened in Russia where the drones were controlled using Russian sim cards.) Shutting down the internet effectively shut down many drones and spike attacks.

Also, while you try to latch onto Iran shutting down the internet, you failed to acknowledge that Israel passed laws banning its own people from posting photos of Iranian impacts. Israel also banned the media from publishing news without the approval of its ministry of defence.

The Internet shutdown and law prevented images from leaking in both countries, but it was more effective in Israel than in Iran. Nonetheless, we still saw lots of photos and videos from both sides despite them. So, there's that.

You also talked about Iran being on the defensive rather than the offensive. Are you saying your views about this war would have changed if Iran was the one that attacked first? Because I know it won't.

If Iran attacked first, you guys would have blamed it for starting the war. Now that Israel attacked first, you're accusing Iran of not attacking first. Isn't that weird? We know you support Israel. Support them with your full chest instead of coming up with self-assuring statements that whitewash Israel.

Iran clearly doesn't want a war. Israel did. And Israel got it and chickened out once it realized Iran had the right to defend itself. So, blame Israel for always being on the offensive and not Iran for always being on the defensive.

If there is no offense, there wouldn't be a defense. If Israel did not attack, Iran will not retaliate. So Israel should receive the full blame for the war and not Iran.

Lastly, you talk of a "ceasefire planned brokered by Iran's enemies". Is that another way of saying that Iran's enemies asked for a ceasefire? Because that is what you said right there. And if anything, it proves that Israel was the one taking a beating.

Michaeltreasure:
I love this thread alot, but the level of narrative twisting to change facts here is extreme. Israel truly got a bleeding nose in this conflict but to say that Iran, who lost top military and civilian leaders, with a Mossad infested defense system, won the war should be the comedy pinnacle of the century.
Someone here was saying that Israel hid much of her casualties, meanwhile the Internet was shut down in Iran all through.
I can't imagine celebrating victory after a fight that killed the members of my team, no member of my opponent team is dead, and a ceasefire that was planned and brokered by my opponents team. That's the joke of the decade.
Few pro Iranians here have seen through the thing. Celebrating mediocrity is nonsensical. Iran needs to up their game. Their intelligence is whack. They're always in the defensive instead of in the offensive, they always wait for Israel to attack before standing up to act. They are always caught off guard. Haniyeh was killed in Tehran of all places and people here are celebrating imaginary Iranian victory.
Will Putin celebrate if Ukraine takes out his top scientists and generals right in the heart of Moscow? Sounds stupid right?

WritterNg:
⚡Iran says 700 people arrested for spying for Israel over 12 days; around 10,000 drones seized in Tehran alone.

shoodboi2:
Victory is not evaluated based on casualties. It is evaluated based on objectives. Did Israel achieve its military objectives?

The answer is no and that is by a wide margin. Israel didn't even achieve its secondary objectives not to talk of the primary one.

Did Iran achieve its military objectives? The answer is yes. It prevented regime change and protected its nuclear program from destruction. It also established deterrence, which made even the US and Saudi Arabia to tread carefully.

The war also exposed the Mossad cells in Iran and Iran has been collapsing them in numbers. This part was so successful that Iran prevented lots of drone and spike missiles attacks from just collapsing these cells.

The presence of these Mossad cells in Iran also implicated Israel and even the US itself. Iran busted Mossad drone manufacturing factories and warehouses right inside Tehran. This shows the Israeli attack was a sophisticated program that has been in the works for years.

In other words, Israel had planned this operation for years. This clearly makes Israel the aggressor rather than the victim.

As for the Internet shutdown, there are two reasons for this. The first is that Iran's network infrastructure came under an Israeli cyberattack at some point.

The second is that Mossad controls those drones using internet provided by Iranian sim cards. (The same thing happened in Russia where the drones were controlled using Russian sim cards.) Shutting down the internet effectively shut down many drones and spike attacks.

Also, while you try to latch onto Iran shutting down the internet, you failed to acknowledge that Israel passed laws banning its own people from posting photos of Iranian impacts. Israel also banned the media from publishing news without the approval of its ministry of defence.

The Internet shutdown and law prevented images from leaking in both countries, but it was more effective in Israel than in Iran. Nonetheless, we still saw lots of photos and videos from both sides despite them. So, there's that.

You also talked about Iran being on the defensive rather than the offensive. Are you saying your views about this war would have changed if Iran was the one that attacked first? Because I know it won't.

If Iran attacked first, you guys would have blamed it for starting the war. Now that Israel attacked first, you're accusing Iran of not attacking first. Isn't that weird? We know you support Israel. Support them with your full chest instead of coming up with self-assuring statements that whitewash Israel.

Iran clearly doesn't want a war. Israel did. And Israel got it and chickened out once it realized Iran had the right to defend itself. So, blame Israel for always being on the offensive and not Iran for always being on the defensive.

If there is no offense, there wouldn't be a defense. If Israel did not attack, Iran will not retaliate. So Israel should receive the full blame for the war and not Iran.

Lastly, you talk of a "ceasefire planned brokered by Iran's enemies". Is that another way of saying that Iran's enemies asked for a ceasefire? Because that is what you said right there. And if anything, it proves that Israel was the one taking a beating.

Appleyard:
Had it not been for this sleeper cells busting, Iran would have been damaged beyond repair.

Appleyard:
Had it not been for this sleeper cells busting, Iran would have been damaged beyond repair.

dermmy:
War is about achieving your objectives. Did Israel or America destroyed Iran's ability to build nuclear weapons? No, infact it has made them see nuclear weapons as the only weapon that can guarantee their survival and a must have. Did it destroy Iran's missile capabilities? No as Iran still have many ballistic missiles and ability to produce more. Was Israel and America able to topple the regime? No infact the country has been more united against America and m the Zionist. The still chant deat# to America and Israel.

Killed general can be replaced. Killed scientists is not a problem Mossad has been doing that for over a decade yet nuclear scientists did go into extinction in Iran. Iran's nuclear tech-know how is very decentralised the country has trained hundreds of scientists and they keep passing the knowledge to coming generations.

Iran is coming back stronger.

Rest.....

WritterNg:
The Israeli Defense Minister boasted that an event that will make the pager explosions look like child's play will happen the following Friday.

That was last week by the way. Mossad cells got busted, foiling all their plans.

First to do no dey pain. These people have taught Iran and Russia how to carry out proper terrorism.

They'll suffer for years to come. Terrorists worldwide are watching and learning. By the time pagers, iPads and cell phones start exploding in US bound flights, they'll realize what they've done.

Russia killed 2 Ukrainian Army Lt. Colonels using a package explosion just last week. It was reported on Ukranian telegram channels.

Western media hid it from the public because they encouraged it.

dermmy:
Honestly if not for the hypocrisy and double standards of the powers that be in this world Israel should be made to pay for all its crime.

dermmy:
But my own is Iran should not have waited till this moment. Just imagine they had been doing this operation for years and they were serious with it. Now it's time for the country to be serious with this Mossad infiltration

FoolishBoy419:
The people saying 'Israel' no get shame sef. Netanyahoo himself acknowledged that other countries helped them shoot down Iranian missiles, meaning Iran was essentially fighting multiple countries alone. Imagine taking months to prepare a sneak attack with USA, having many countries help de fend you and still being the one to call for a ceasefire in less than 2 weeks

obedience4:
Wonders they say will never end!!, you said you are busy, you have a life outside this thread, which is completely normal, One would be stupid to dedicate his or her whole time and resources on international banter on a faceless forum without any form of financial numeratiom.

My issue is that you have been so busy, and the only spare time you could manage out of your busy schedule to contribute your "superior intelligence" on the thread, and the theme of your epistles is centred upon "Gbadebo19".

What kind of obsessions should we call this now??.