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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 8:53am On Jun 26, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Satan hates Israel so much for many reasons

But one is because Israel gave us our God when he came in human flesh

So tell me why you hate Israel the same way Satan hates them

Am all ears
What are you saying? Do you even know how you sound. Didn't Israel also killed the same God? Shouldnt Satan be celebrating Isreal for the help, instead of hating.

The answer to your question is; the reason for hating Isreal is the same reason you have for hating evil America, nato and Biden
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by CreativeOrbit: 8:56am On Jun 26, 2025
Michaeltreasure:
I love this thread alot, but the level of narrative twisting to change facts here is extreme. Israel truly got a bleeding nose in this conflict but to say that Iran, who lost top military and civilian leaders, with a Mossad infested defense system, won the war should be the comedy pinnacle of the century.
Someone here was saying that Israel hid much of her casualties, meanwhile the Internet was shut down in Iran all through.
I can't imagine celebrating victory after a fight that killed the members of my team, no member of my opponent team is dead, and a ceasefire that was planned and brokered by my opponents team. That's the joke of the decade.
Few pro Iranians here have seen through the thing. Celebrating mediocrity is nonsensical. Iran needs to up their game. Their intelligence is whack. They're always in the defensive instead of in the offensive, they always wait for Israel to attack before standing up to act. They are always caught off guard. Haniyeh was killed in Tehran of all places and people here are celebrating imaginary Iranian victory.
Will Putin celebrate if Ukraine takes out his top scientists and generals right in the heart of Moscow? Sounds stupid right?
Your comment reflects a deeply skewed and reductionist interpretation of a complex geopolitical struggle. The idea that Iran’s strategic posture can be measured solely by visible casualties or cyber disruptions ignores the broader asymmetrical nature of the conflict. Wars in the modern era are not won or lost purely on the basis of body counts or flashy retaliations, but through strategic leverage, deterrence, and long-term influence.

First, the assertion that ā€œIran lost top military and civilian leadersā€ is partially true, but it omits critical context. These losses, while significant, did not cripple Iran’s command structure or operational capability. In fact, the very fact that Iran responded openly — for the first time in decades — by directly striking Israeli targets and forcing civilian evacuations demonstrates a major shift from covert deterrence to overt capability. Israel, despite its military sophistication, failed to intercept all projectiles, leading to damage in highly secured zones. That is not a trivial outcome.

Second, the claim that ā€œno member of the opponent’s team is deadā€ is both speculative and misleading. Israel, historically and strategically, downplays or censors military casualties to manage public perception. Multiple intelligence and regional sources contradict the notion of zero Israeli losses. Moreover, the psychological and infrastructural damage suffered by Israel was enough to necessitate third-party mediation to halt escalation — itself an admission of vulnerability.

Third, it is false and ironic to describe Iran’s intelligence as ā€œwhack.ā€ Iran operates across multiple theaters — from Syria to Yemen to Lebanon and Iraq — with a network of proxies that has consistently survived Israeli and Western efforts to dismantle it. The presence of Mossad operatives in Iran does not prove Iranian weakness; it proves the nature of high-stakes espionage between two hostile intelligence agencies — one of which (Mossad) is heavily Western-backed. Iran’s ability to continue state functioning and military coordination despite infiltration efforts speaks volumes about its resilience, not failure.

As for the analogy with Putin and Ukraine — the comparison falls apart under scrutiny. Iran and Israel are not engaged in a conventional war with frontlines and battalions. This is hybrid warfare, marked by cyber operations, proxy engagements, intelligence sabotage, and occasional open strikes. The fact that Iran has not collapsed under relentless sanctions, assassination campaigns, and military provocations, and still retains influence from the Mediterranean to the Gulf, indicates strategic endurance — not ā€œcelebrating mediocrity.ā€

Finally, it's important to remember that perception of victory is not always based on short-term headlines, but on strategic outcomes. Iran emerged from this round with increased regional credibility for responding forcefully — while Israel, for all its military pride, was forced to rely on foreign pressure to de-escalate and still faces instability on multiple fronts.

In sum, mocking Iran’s response as ā€œthe joke of the centuryā€ betrays a superficial reading of complex strategic realities. Both sides suffered, but dismissing Iran’s calculated response as inept is neither accurate nor intellectually honest.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m):
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
What I'm saying is,, even if others are criticising pastor Kings for defending Israel on this thread, you in particular don't have such moral justification to criticize him. Because you are even worse. You openly stated that you don't support any of them, I wonder why you are angry if another person decides to pick a side... something you lacked the courage and willpower to do.

You don't support Palestinian, you don't support Israel, you don't support Iran neither do you support Iran. So why are you condemning pastor Kings?

Maybe you're also neutral in Russia šŸ†š Ukraine
Lol, I’m not angry at pastor ooh, maybe the way I wrote feel like am angry.
I was confused why he was ok for Israeli to have nukes and Iran can’t have nukes.
He gave his own reasons and I responded that Iran never attacked Israeli bases or embassy but instead its other way around.
I supported Palestinians have their own country and their land, I never changed that fact. Even Palestine pres. Abbas doesn’t support Hamas and even calling them names
I’m pro-Iran must have nukes due to her surroundings.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 8:58am On Jun 26, 2025
shoodboi2:
Israel did not see that damage coming. Even me didn't expect such from Iran. I thought they were going to drag their feet as usual. I am disappointed they agreed to a ceasefire though. They should have pushed it a bit and destroyed more infrastructure and make it clear it was retaliation for the senior officers that Israel killed.
Iran agreed to ceasefire to give usa face, you don’t want a nuclear power back to a corner. I laughed when someone said Iran will be Libya or North Korea. The usa/ Israel can’t win a conventional war with Iran. They’ll only hit civilian infrastructure and after a week or two all bases in Middle East will be inoperable. Iran just has to hit the fuel storage and maintenance facilities then all the planes and ground troops are sitting ducks. If the hypersonics have anti shipping capabilities ( which they most likely do) then all carrier battleships are in trouble. Israel/ USA had success with strikes because they flew from Cyprus , Iraq and probably Azerbaijan. Iran didn’t want to escalate so they didn’t hit those countries. Don’t even think of ground troops because USA will have to mobilise 1.5 to 2 million troops. Even if they do they can’t transport them in because all ports and airports are within range of Iranian missiles. Let’s add the regional war and economic collapse that’ll take out most of the monarchies and dictators in the east. Bringing new regimes that’ll be hostile to USA. Everybody dies in a nuclear attack.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 9:01am On Jun 26, 2025
The list long oh. And it's incomplete. Can they use propaganda to fix this destruction now?

shoodboi2:
Incomplete list of Israeli facilities Iran damaged or destroyed in response to Israel's aggression

1. IDF Cyber Command (C4I) headquarters in Gav-Yam technology park, near Tel Aviv

2. Mossad’s headquarters in Tel Aviv

3. Ministry of Defense building in Kirya, Tel Aviv (The building is among a group of buildings that is Israel’s equivalent of the Pentagon.)

4. Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot (It is a scientific research center that develops chemical weapons for the IDF.)

5. Aman Logistics headquarters building and warehouse in Tel Aviv

6. Ashdod power station (Caused power outage that affected electricity to thousands of people in southern Israel, according Israeli Energy Minister, Eli Cohen)

7. A factory in the industrial zone in Ashdod

8. Ben Gurion airport

9. Ashkelon power plant

10. A power station in Tel Aviv

11. Israeli Ministry of Interior building

12. Israeli army positions near Elkana in the West Bank

13. Petrochemical plant in the Negev desert

14. Channel 14 aka Now 14 headquarters (Bombed in response to Israeli’s attack on Iran’s IRIB broadcasting station)

15. Haifa port (caused Maersk and other major shipping companies to suspend services to Haifa port)

16. Tel Aviv Stock Exchange building in Ramat Gan, Tel Aviv

17. IDF intelligence complex in Herzliya aka Camp Moshe Dayan (Multiple installations were destroyed including the Israeli military intelligence school in Dayan camp.)

18. Giliot intelligence center near Tel Aviv (The IDF Unit 8200 headquarters was destroyed in this attack.)

19. IDF Intelligence headquarters in Tel Aviv

20. An unidentified intelligence and cloud services company behind Microsoft’s office in the Negev Advanced Technologies Park in Beersheba (The park is home to Israeli military offices and multiple intelligence, cybersecurity, AI, and cloud services companies that offer services to the Israeli military.)

21. Building linked to Israeli military Unit 8200. (The building is at the Negev Advanced Technologies Park in Beersheba and houses a manufacturer of loitering drones Israel used to perform assassinations inside Iran.)

22. Israeli intelligence building near Soroka hospital in Beersheba. (There were no casualties at the hospital since it was not the target. However, it was hit by debris and shockwaves from the destruction of the nearby Intelligence building. Israel had bombed two Iranian hospitals, including one the day before this strike.)

23. Ben-Gurion University's campus in Beersheba (The university was damaged when the intelligence building near Soroka hospital was hit. There were no casualties since the university was not the target. However, buildings were damaged by debris and shockwaves from the missile landing on the intelligence building.)

24. Sewerage treatment plant in Tel Aviv (This plant was destroyed after Israel bombed a sewerage treatment plant in Tehran.)

25. Haifa Oil Refinery aka Bazan refinery (The refinery was completely destroyed and had to shut down.)

26. Gezer Gas power plant, Ramla, Israel

27. Israeli Institute for Biological Research building in Ness Ziona, Israel (This facility researches and builds chemical and biological weapons for the Israeli military. Many of these weapons are used in assassinations. It also reports directly to the Israeli Prime Minister and is believed to be directly run by the Israeli military.)

28. Two offices of the Israeli attorney-general in Tel Aviv

29. The public prosecutor’s office in Tel Aviv

30. Israeli Biological Institute in Nes Tziona (The building was heavily damaged by the missile.)

31. IDF missile depot in Bandar Abbas

32. Home of Danny Naveh, an Israeli politician and former minister (The building burned after it was hit by a drone.)

33. Rafael factory in Haifa (Rafael manufactures several weapons including the Iron Dome.)

34. Kiryat Gat microchip complex (They manufacture drone and surveillance tech parts for Israel.)

35. Nevatim air base

36. Israeli air force base in Tel Nof (Iran bombed it multiple times.)

37. Israeli air force base in Hatzerim (Iran bombed it multiple times.)

38. Israeli air force base in Ovda (Iran bombed it multiple times.)

39. Hadera power station

40. Haifa power station

41. Camp Moshe Dayan, a major IDF intelligence hub

42. Israeli government ministry complex in Jerusalem
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 9:11am On Jun 26, 2025
https://www.newscrab.com/news/iran-israel-war-over-30000-homes-damaged-in-12-days-real-scale-of-destruction-in-israel-now-revealed

Over 30,000 homes destroyed in 12 days, this is why I said Israel won’t survive if it goes on for 6 months. This doesn’t include military, government buildings and infrastructure damages. For the first time they’ve seen what real war is, a neighbourhood rabbis said is protected by the Torah was destroyed. Now they’ll second guess every business and investment decision because you’re always one missile away from losing everything. They have been disillusioned and the chosen myth broken.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 9:25am On Jun 26, 2025
Wow! This is nice shoodboi, the reply took time but worth every piece of it
shoodboi2:
I believe everyone agrees to this. But killing the top bosses does not in any way prevent a military from fighting. Such incident is news for people looking to mock Iran. And it may lower troop morale too (at least, at the time of the attack), but that is all there is to it.

Militaries, or even any fighting force for that matter, are actually built with these sorts of attacks in mind. They also understand that illness, travel, accidents, retirements, and natural deaths can occur and put their commanders out of service, so they do not put all their eggs in one basket.

The US Joint Staff (who support the Joint Chief of Staff) alone has 2000 direct staff who work for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. To cripple the US military, you need to take out those 2000 folks. Then you have to kill many other top generals who may have served in that office in the past, along with every other officer that can replace them.

So, is that possible? Nope. We can say the same for Iran too. So, overall, killing the top shots did not affect Iran’s operational capability even though it is bad news as you said.



That is a well-known issue, which we have discussed here a few times. And as we can all see, Iran is working hard on it. Iran probably didn’t know the depth before now but they knew it was happening. They have arrested 700 so far. That is a good number. They also stopped lots of drone and spike missile attacks, which I believe we do not credit them enough for. I cannot count the number of drone factories and drone-transporting vehicles that they have busted. It was a lot.

Also, infiltrating an enemy airspace is really not something unique. Any military with a considerable air force and air defense can do it. Don’t judge it based on the US war in Iraq or Afghanistan. Those were turkey shoots. Even the US cannot get air superiority over Iran, not to talk of Israel.

First things first, there is zero evidence that Israeli jets entered Iran. But if they did, it is uncertain that Israel went past some areas of western Iran. But they would have remained close to the border. It is very unlikely that they went deeply into Iran and even flew over Tehran. They do not need to in the first place. Bombs dropped from high up can travel insanely long distances. So why bother to fly over something you can destroy from afar?

As for respect, I doubt if this war brought down Iran’s respect. If anything, it will instill fear and some respect in their neighbors. Saudi Arabia for one, is now sure that its US-supplied air defense systems aren't going to save it in a one-on-one fight with Iran. There is a reason these Arab countries continued to condemn the war in public even though they supported it in private. They saw what Iran did to Israel and they took notes.

For context, in 2019, the Houthis cut Saudi oil production capacity by half in a single day. This was 5% of the world's supply. Multiple drones and missiles were used in that attack. The Houthis claimed responsibility for the attack but the US, Saudi, and the UN said they weren’t responsible and said it was Iran.

If the Houthis could do that (or maybe Iran), then imagine what Iran would do when it's not trying to hide. Israel wanted to destroy Iran’s oil production capabilities in this war but desisted from doing so after Iran made it clear that no one will export oil in the Middle East if Israel tried such. Israel did well to not destroy Iran’s oil production.



That is normal. Mossad will try to. We don’t know how much damage the Mossad cells have received but we should agree that it is considerable. Despite that, there are still many more Mossad agents that have not been caught, so Mossad still has spies down there. And Mossad will add more.

Spying is not something any country can prevent. They can only reduce the possibility along with the damage the spies can cause, but it is never zero. As for Iran, they may not collapse the spy network completely but it can seriously weaken it. One method is to make the punishment for those as quick or severe as possible. Let Iranians and foreigners watch and see the consequences of spying. Many will reconsider whether the money Mossad will pay them is really worth the pain they will go through.



Thank you for this. But Israel has found out, for the first time, that there is a capable country in the Middle East that can stand up to it and cause considerable damage when it falls out of line.

A bully is only a bully for as long as there is no one ready to challenge them. Bullies thrive on fear and not even on the beating they can give to you. Many people can beat bullies, but the fear of the bully wouldn't even allow them to attempt such. But the moment that fear is gone, then the bully’s time is over.

Back in 2003, would it have been imaginable that Yemen would dare to launch missiles at US ships? Or that Iran will fire missiles at US bases? Or that the Taliban will cause the US to flee from Afghanistan?

Nope. No one dared the US back then. Not even Russia, which was still recovering from the separation of the USSR. Today, everyone is having a piece of the US in the Middle East. The US is still powerful, no doubt, but the Houthis comfortably firing missiles at them is a clear indicator that the power is waning.

The same applies to Israel too. They have always thrived on invincibility. They used to be feared and were considered undefeatable. But Hezbollah started to change that, then Hamas took over. Then the Houthis got involved and finally, Iran.

For the first time, Israelis have discovered they are just flesh and bones with blood, just like everyone else. The large-scale bombings they used to watch on television was now at their doorstep. And it wasn't those small Hamas sugar-and-pipe rockets, or the one or two ballistic missiles that Yemen fires. This time, they were having dozens of ballistic missiles (and even hundreds at the beginning of the war) coming right at them at once.

No one could have predicted that Israel would be hit this hard. Or that Iran will fire this many missiles. But then, here we are. The cloak of invincibility is off and it will get worse. Israel is no longer feared as it used to be. And at some point in the future, it will have to come to the negotiation table. It's rivals are getting stronger. They are also making new enemies everyday. Israel cannot be in a state of perpetual war forever.



The laxity in Iran’s counter-intelligence is something we have discussed here over and over, long before now. It is a well-known weakness of Iran. Iran should up its game. They are too lax for a country that wants its allies to take it seriously.



Such act will be a major escalation. War has rules. Israel is the one breaking them.

For now, Iran appears uninterested in those sorts of operations. Check Iran's profile, it is super-clean. Every single war they have fought since the Islamic republic was organized in 1979 had either been defensive, a counter insurgency, or a civil war/conflict.

Iran has never been an aggressor and it doesn’t appear like it wants to be one. It just wants to establish a deterrent. it is also interested in preventing Israel from expanding, wants a Palestinian state, and doesn't want the US or Israel to establish themselves at its border with Iraq.

But this is something Iran will be forced to do in the future. It will definitely get to that point if Israel continues. But for now, it is unlikely that Iran will do such a thing. If you ask why, then I will say that "A country that keeps dragging its feet about acquiring nukes is unlikely to be interested in assassinating the enemy’s politicians, military, and scientists."

As for the word ā€œterrorist groups,ā€ I do not want to go into a definition of terrorist because I know we will disagree on that. But as they say, ā€œOne man’s terrorist group is another man’s freedom fighter." For context, Iran only funds Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, and some elements of the Popular Mobilization Forces of Iraq.

The Houthis are one faction in a civil war. As for Hezbollah, Iran founded it in response to Israel’s 1982 invasion of Lebanon. Hamas itself was founded by Palestinians who felt the PLO was not effective enough and was being played by Israel and the US (which is true).

But Hamas itself was funded by Israel from the 70s to the late 80’s to early 90’s. Iran only started funding Hamas in the 90’s. So, if you accuse Iran is funding a terror group, will you also accuse Israel of doing the same?

Hamas is unlikely to have survived if not for Israel’s money. But Israel did so because it wanted a PLO-Hamas conflict to weaken the PLO. The PLO (and the Palestinian Authority that replaced it) became weaker over time but then Hamas got stronger.

This pattern of funding "terrorists" is actually common with Israel and the west. They are known to fund and arm all sorts of ā€œterror groupsā€ against their enemies. It is well documented. Israel itself funds and works closely with the People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (MEK), which commits terror acts against Iran. But again, as they say, "One man’s terrorist group is another man’s freedom fighter."



Sure. You're welcome 😊
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 9:36am On Jun 26, 2025
Mikasaobi:
https://www.newscrab.com/news/iran-israel-war-over-30000-homes-damaged-in-12-days-real-scale-of-destruction-in-israel-now-revealed

Over 30,000 homes destroyed in 12 days, this is why I said Israel won’t survive if it goes on for 6 months. This doesn’t include military, government buildings and infrastructure damages. For the first time they’ve seen what real war is, a neighbourhood rabbis said is protected by the Torah was destroyed. Now they’ll second guess every business and investment decision because you’re always one missile away from losing everything. They have been disillusioned and the chosen myth broken.
Israel is a high tech knowledge-based service economy.
Virtually everyone in Israel can live in peace and harmony and have a decent to high-paying job in any other country in the West.
Worst-case scenario, they'll live on welfare.
But without running into shelters multiple times a night or worry if you'll be obliterated inside a shelter.

This is why Israel had to SURRENDER on Day 12.
If the confrontation had gone on for 6 months, Israel will empty out.
The likes of Microsoft, Nvidia, even homegrown stars like Fiverr and Wiz would have left and transferred their Israeli employees.
Money must be made.

It is a very clear defeat that we still do not know the full ramifications of.
Iran struck at the heart of Israel and questioned its viability as a state.
Without nukes.
For so long, the existential fear has been: If our enemies get a nuke, they'll obliterate us.
Now, it has dawned on them that enough missiles on a long enough timeline is a far more potent and latent threat than nukes.
If you use nukes on Israel, nukes will be used on you. But conventional missiles. That's a different kettle of fish. Israel is small, Iran is large. Asymmetric superiority.
Iran does not even need millions of missiles. Just enough to overwhelm ADs in specific points of its top cities.

The world waits for no one.
Every industry in Israel can fit in 3 Chinese industrial parks.
Total capitalization of the Tel Aviv stock exchange is $250 billion dollars.
At its peak, Apple had a 10x higher capitalization.
Silicon Valley, heck, Austin will swallow all of Israel's high tech and the world will move on.

I am a firm believer in a two-state solution. A State of Israel and a State of Palestine should coexist side by side.
But Israel just played into the hands of those who seek to destroy it.
And when the US is no longer a superpower, I fear for their progenies.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 9:49am On Jun 26, 2025
ā€˜Estonians fought and died for the US in Afghanistan’ – Kallas explains why she is confident that Trump will never abandon Estonia.

ā€˜Article 5 is very clear. The US itself has stated that Article 5 is binding. Let me remind you that the only time Article 5 has been activated is when America itself declared that it was attacked. And my country, Estonia, went to war with the US because we are NATO allies. We had more combat casualties per capita in that war than, for example, the US itself. So I think we have proven that the allies support America. And I am confident that the US is committed to its treaty obligations.’
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:52am On Jun 26, 2025
seunny4lif:
ā€˜Estonians fought and died for the US in Afghanistan’ – Kallas explains why she is confident that Trump will never abandon Estonia.

ā€˜Article 5 is very clear. The US itself has stated that Article 5 is binding. Let me remind you that the only time Article 5 has been activated is when America itself declared that it was attacked. And my country, Estonia, went to war with the US because we are NATO allies. We had more combat casualties per capita in that war than, for example, the US itself. So I think we have proven that the allies support America. And I am confident that the US is committed to its treaty obligations.’
look for Russia trouble first and see if US will come to your aid šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 10:04am On Jun 26, 2025
dvkot:
look for Russia trouble first and see if US will come to your aid šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Body go tell them.

If they start sh*t, Russia will obliterate them, then they'll still run back to the US with broken femurs for loan to rebuild.
They don't have a choice.

All of them are in an abusive relationship with the US.
The US could push them out on cold winter night and they'll still be banging the door the next morning begging to be let in.

The US is looking for new means to boost its economy and asked them to pay 5% of their GDP to their weapon manufacturers and tech companies.
5% of GDP. That number will only go up.
I don't know if you can call this extortion even.

Imagine China came to Africa to ask all of us to pay 5% of GDP to its manufacturers for phantom protection that it can weasel out of.
5% of Nigeria's current GDP is $10B. Where the money dey?
It's good for them sha. They'll tax themselves more and spend on overpriced rubbish until they fade into oblivion.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:13am On Jun 26, 2025
CreativeOrbit:
Your comment reflects a deeply skewed and reductionist interpretation of a complex geopolitical struggle. The idea that Iran’s strategic posture can be measured solely by visible casualties or cyber disruptions ignores the broader asymmetrical nature of the conflict. Wars in the modern era are not won or lost purely on the basis of body counts or flashy retaliations, but through strategic leverage, deterrence, and long-term influence.

First, the assertion that ā€œIran lost top military and civilian leadersā€ is partially true, but it omits critical context. These losses, while significant, did not cripple Iran’s command structure or operational capability. In fact, the very fact that Iran responded openly — for the first time in decades — by directly striking Israeli targets and forcing civilian evacuations demonstrates a major shift from covert deterrence to overt capability. Israel, despite its military sophistication, failed to intercept all projectiles, leading to damage in highly secured zones. That is not a trivial outcome.

Second, the claim that ā€œno member of the opponent’s team is deadā€ is both speculative and misleading. Israel, historically and strategically, downplays or censors military casualties to manage public perception. Multiple intelligence and regional sources contradict the notion of zero Israeli losses. Moreover, the psychological and infrastructural damage suffered by Israel was enough to necessitate third-party mediation to halt escalation — itself an admission of vulnerability.

Third, it is false and ironic to describe Iran’s intelligence as ā€œwhack.ā€ Iran operates across multiple theaters — from Syria to Yemen to Lebanon and Iraq — with a network of proxies that has consistently survived Israeli and Western efforts to dismantle it. The presence of Mossad operatives in Iran does not prove Iranian weakness; it proves the nature of high-stakes espionage between two hostile intelligence agencies — one of which (Mossad) is heavily Western-backed. Iran’s ability to continue state functioning and military coordination despite infiltration efforts speaks volumes about its resilience, not failure.

As for the analogy with Putin and Ukraine — the comparison falls apart under scrutiny. Iran and Israel are not engaged in a conventional war with frontlines and battalions. This is hybrid warfare, marked by cyber operations, proxy engagements, intelligence sabotage, and occasional open strikes. The fact that Iran has not collapsed under relentless sanctions, assassination campaigns, and military provocations, and still retains influence from the Mediterranean to the Gulf, indicates strategic endurance — not ā€œcelebrating mediocrity.ā€

Finally, it's important to remember that perception of victory is not always based on short-term headlines, but on strategic outcomes. Iran emerged from this round with increased regional credibility for responding forcefully — while Israel, for all its military pride, was forced to rely on foreign pressure to de-escalate and still faces instability on multiple fronts.

In sum, mocking Iran’s response as ā€œthe joke of the centuryā€ betrays a superficial reading of complex strategic realities. Both sides suffered, but dismissing Iran’s calculated response as inept is neither accurate nor intellectually honest.
Tell your AI that we hear the creaking machinery of its skewed submission
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 10:18am On Jun 26, 2025
Front page News. How market?? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 10:31am On Jun 26, 2025
After falsely claiming to have assassinated top Iranian commanders:

āœ… Admiral Ali Shamkhani – ALIVE
āœ… Gen. Esmail Qaani – ALIVE
āœ… Gen. Abdulrahim Mousavi – ALIVE
āœ… Defense Minister Zadeh – ALIVE

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:32am On Jun 26, 2025
The Iranian are now confirming what we already know, that their nuclear facilities were badly damaged, but our military experts and weapons system gurus here will tell you otherwise.

Anyone with any atom of reasoning knows the chances of the Iranian getting nukes have reduced drastically, only a .... thinks that after the elimination of nuclear scientists and destruction of facilities, the Iranian are now suddenly in the works to develop a nuke.

Like I always said, propaganda won't change the realities on the ground

P.S. Nuclear scientists are not your regular scientists on the streets. The knowledge is very limited. The US had to make do of german scientists to kick start it own weapons of mass destruction programs.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:37am On Jun 26, 2025
Alamkiir:
What are you saying? Do you even know how you sound. Didn't Israel also killed the same God? Shouldnt Satan be celebrating Isreal for the help, instead of hating.

The answer to your question is; the reason for hating Isreal is the same reason you have for hating evil America, nato and Biden
Bible shows Israel or whom ever you think killed Jesus did the world a great blessing yes Jesus death is what gave us eternal life

;his death gave us the ability to eat his flesh and drink his blood

So when Satan found out that killing Jesus eventually crushed his head just like God fore told in genesis

His hatred for Israel became more fearsome

So now Satan hates Israel for giving us God in the flesh that saves the whole world not just only Israel like before


There's a reason China and Russia refuse to make blacks their slaves that why I like them

Now I don't hate USA UK evil nato

I just don't want them to dominate us to the point of making us their slaves

Just like they did to our forefathers

Question1

Do you still hate Israel
The same way as the devil hates them?

Or is there another reason you are shy to say
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 10:41am On Jun 26, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Front page News. How market?? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
It’s just theatre between Iran and USA to give trump a way out. The satellite evidence doesn’t even support bombs were used because the craters are small. The massive pr campaign from the president, vice, military and media tells you all you need to know. The invisible plane myth has been busted in Serbia, detected by Russia in Syria and just early this month an f35 was detected when it made an emergency landing in India. Why ask for ceasefire when your magic plane can go in to destroy all military bunkers. Most western media have confirmed enriched uranium was not damaged.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 10:43am On Jun 26, 2025
LordAdam16:
Body go tell them.

If they start sh*t, Russia will obliterate them, then they'll still run back to the US with broken femurs for loan to rebuild.
They don't have a choice.

All of them are in an abusive relationship with the US.
The US could push them out on cold winter night and they'll still be banging the door the next morning begging to be let in.

The US is looking for new means to boost its economy and asked them to pay 5% of their GDP to their weapon manufacturers and tech companies.
5% of GDP. That number will only go up.
I don't know if you can call this extortion even.

Imagine China came to Africa to ask all of us to pay 5% of GDP to its manufacturers for phantom protection that it can weasel out of.
5% of Nigeria's current GDP is $10B. Where the money dey?
It's good for them sha. They'll tax themselves more and spend on overpriced rubbish until they fade into oblivion.

-Lord
Exactly US will never back Europe in a war with Russia, never because this could go haywire really quick...probably the only country they may put boots on ground for is uk and France.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:44am On Jun 26, 2025
The guy above is a confirmed pillock

The crater was smallšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 10:46am On Jun 26, 2025
To damage a nuclear facility under a mountain you have to drop the bomb repeatedly on the same spot for at least 6 times to cause damage. This didn’t happen with the evidence we have.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:51am On Jun 26, 2025
A total of 14 GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrators, or MOPs, were dropped on the site at Fordo and Natanz.

Do the math.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:11am On Jun 26, 2025
⚔French Embassy confirms that the French military intercepted and shot down several Iranian drones heading toward Israel.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 11:15am On Jun 26, 2025
Putin is now also pushing migrants on boats from Africa to Britain.

How is he able to meddle in every single thing the west has trouble with?
He has so much to do, crazy.

It’s Putin fault that I hit my leg on the stone cheesy cheesy

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:16am On Jun 26, 2025
dvkot:
look for Russia trouble first and see if US will come to your aid šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
As if they haven't learnt anything from Ukraine.

They had more than enough time to bring Ukraine into NATO just like they didn't waste any time for Sweden and Finland.

Ask them why.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:18am On Jun 26, 2025
⚔French Embassy confirms that the French military intercepted and shot down several Iranian drones heading toward Israel.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:19am On Jun 26, 2025
seunny4lif:
Putin is now also pushing migrants on boats from Africa to Britain.

How is he able to meddle in every single thing the west has trouble with?
He has so much to do, crazy.

It’s Putin fault that I hit my leg on the stone cheesy cheesy
šŸ˜‚ 🤣 😭 🤣

Madness.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 11:25am On Jun 26, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Bible shows Israel or whom ever you think killed Jesus did the world a great blessing yes Jesus death is what gave us eternal life

;his death gave us the ability to eat his flesh and drink his blood

So when Satan found out that killing Jesus eventually crushed his head just like God fore told in genesis

His hatred for Israel became more fearsome

So now Satan hates Israel for giving us God in the flesh that saves the whole world not just only Israel like before


There's a reason China and Russia refuse to make blacks their slaves that why I like them

Now I don't hate USA UK evil nato

I just don't want them to dominate us to the point of making us their slaves

Just like they did to our forefathers

Question1

Do you still hate Israel
The same way as the devil hates them?

Or is there another reason you are shy to say
this story no clear if it is the departure of Jesus that makes humans to have eternal life then what is the faith of those that died thousand years be he was born and pkai.

And why was Jesus pkai instead of Satan
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 11:31am On Jun 26, 2025
Mikasaobi:
To damage a nuclear facility under a mountain you have to drop the bomb repeatedly on the same spot for at least 6 times to cause damage. This didn’t happen with the evidence we have.
are you economical with the truth or borned liar. Who doesn't know the mountainous nuke site was hit more than 6 times.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:35am On Jun 26, 2025
⚔Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei:

U.S. entered the war because it feared Israel would be completely destroyed.

U.S. gained no achievement from this war.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 12:06pm On Jun 26, 2025
WritterNg:
⚔Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei:

U.S. entered the war because it feared Israel would be completely destroyed.

U.S. gained no achievement from this war.
I will always blamed him for many of the Iranian military servicemen death.
Am very sure the next supreme leader will choose nukes over any religion matter because that’s the only security Iran needed more than anything.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 12:09pm On Jun 26, 2025
Fash20:
You are the one deceiving yourself. We know very well if zionists weren't really bleeding, they wouldn't have accepted the ceasefire. Trump admitted this!

Iran would have levelled the place in 6 months

Zios do not have the moral justification to talk about destroying civilian infrastructure. Have you forgotten what your gods are doing to the Palestinians?
continue to live in denial

Sorry where are Iran air defence systems during the 12 days..........or Iran does not have air defence systems


Take care of yourself
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