₦airaland Forum

Mrexcell:
What about the thousands of innocent igbos that were been massacred in the north that gowon couldn't stop?

First as head of the Army why was Gen Ironsi unable to prevent the Slaughter of Northern leaders but was very successful in preventing the slaughter of his own peoples leaders

That already tells you that Gen Ironsi didn't treat their protection equally

Ojukwu used his own mouth at Aburi to say almost 10,000 were slaughtered and that was almost year after it happened

That number included all Southerners except SW people who had Akintola like Tribal Marks


Now why did many of the other Southerners who were slaughtered still stand with Gowon?

In retaliation attacks about 5000 Northerners where also slaughtered in the East

Christistruth02:
Why do you have the habit of calling those who tell you the Truth liars

Because I have not read it anywhere on record.

Aburi failed because Ojukwu never went there in good faith in the first place

Ojukwu wanted to be Emperor of all Southern Nigeria just read the letter he wrote to Col Banjo after the Capture of Midwest ordering Banjo to Capture the West as well

Ojukwu was only at Aburi for eye service

Christistruth02:
Let me give you an illustration of how wicked Ojukwu was
Ojukwu sent Officers to Warfronts where they were unlikely to survive, while at the same time having affairs with their wives in his State House.
Ojukwu was completely unprincipled.
Do your research to confirm if it isn't true

Can you hear yourself talk? Even in WW2 Churchill sent British soldiers on missions where the likelihood of survival was thing.

On the issue of affairs with their wives. You are really funny walahi. so Ojukwu is now King David that deployed Uriah and now slept with his wife Beersheba?

Oga stop spreading lies you don't know why unintelligent you sound.

Irony1:
Can you hear yourself talk? Even in WW2 Churchill sent British soldiers on missions where the likelihood of survival was thing.

On the issue of affairs with their wives. You are really funny walahi. so Ojukwu is now King David that deployed Uriah and now slept with his wife Beersheba?

Oga stop spreading lies you don't know why unintelligent you sound.

Was Churchill frolicking with his Military Officers wives in their absence?

That right there was already more than enough evidence that Ojukwu would loose the war miserably and disgracefully .

There was a man from Rivers called Graham Douglas who was a Lawyer.
Ojukwu Jailed him and hijacked his beautiful wife.
Graham Douglas was in Jail while Ojukwu was in the State House with Graham Douglas's wife what more evidence do you need again?

You can investigate this and previous allegations that Ojukwu was frolicking with his officers wives whom he had sent to the Warfront

King David did it once and repented .
Ojukwu till the War ended didn't repent of that behaviour

Looking back, shouldn't we now agree that the civil war was a monumental mistake? That Nigerians would have been better of today if all regions of Nigeria were allowed to part ways peaceful in 1967 and take their destinies in their own hands?

Even if we ended up with 2,3,4,5 or even 6 countries from what we call Nigeria today, at least on one or two of them would have been able to provide 24hrs electricity, security, quality education, health, jobs, to her people! What's the point of being one big-for-nothing country?? I really don't understand this fixation on One Nigeria.

One India was formed for economic benefit of the British but at independence, Indians realized the folly in keeping the country one. Pakistan broke away, closely followed by Bangladesh. Today all three countries are making progress in their own way. If they had insisted on 'One India' they would probably be wallowing in poverty and underdevelopment today, fueled by religious and tribal suspicion, as manifested in todays One Nigeria.

Break up Nigeria for the sake of Nigerians and Humanity!

Yea. The deed has already been done.

I was only talking about what started the war.

We were not the truth enough in secondary schools about it.

There are more attachments to the war that we didn't know about.

Mrexcell:
What about the thousands of innocent igbos that were been massacred in the north that gowon couldn't stop?

Christistruth02:
Was Churchill frolicking with his Military Officers wives in their absence?

That right there was already more than enough evidence that Ojukwu would loose the war miserably and disgracefully .

There was a man from Rivers called Graham Douglas who was a Lawyer.
Ojukwu Jailed him and hijacked his beautiful wife.
Graham Douglas was in Jail while Ojukwu was in the State House with Graham Douglas's wife what more evidence do you need again?

You can investigate this and previous allegations that Ojukwu was frolicking with his officers wives whom he had sent to the Warfront

King David did it once and repented .
Ojukwu till the War ended didn't repent of that behaviour

Oga you don't even know how to lie. This is serious beer parlor gossips, so did Graham Douglas now sue Ojukwu or divorced his wife? Guy you are a funny guy honestly.

You disagreed over Aburi accord yet you signed the documents. No be juju be that?
You went to Ghana and was laughing like a clown while Ojukwu was there for business.

Irony1:
Oga you don't even know how to lie. This is serious beer parlor gossips, so did Graham Douglas now sue Ojukwu or divorced his wife? Guy you are a funny guy honestly.

Graham Douglas wrote a book about what he went through

christistruth01:
Graham Douglas wrote a book about what he went through

Ohhhhh my God you don't even know how lie.

christistruth01:
Graham Douglas wrote a book about what he went through

😆 you don't know how to lie.

One thing we can all take from Aburi and the civil war is that the existence of Nigeria has been a big mistake. A country created by the British by bringing incompatible people together has resulted in millions of deaths. Not only that, the country has brought nothing but increased suffering for the common man, heightened insecurity and political infighting. There has been no unity nor progress, only fighting.

Ojukwu was right about one thing, Nigeria has never worked, and will never work. We all would have been better of if the country had been dissolved a long time ago

christistruth01:
Graham Douglas wrote a book about what he went through

Graham Douglas!? You mean a naive ‘one Nigerianist’ Ijaw man wrote a book many years after the fact, and you want us to take his word as gospel!? Dude, whatever Mr Douglas has to say should be treated no different to what say a Gowon, Awo, Murtala Mohammed, Saro-Wiwa or Boro has to say about the war!

Fact of the matter is discerning individuals now have the benefit of hindsight to know who made the right call at the time and who was way off mark! Since 1970, we all have been living the Nigeria the aforementioned fought for and fashioned! Hope you’re enjoying yourself as you live your ‘dream’!?

IGBOPROMISE1:
Graham Douglas!? You mean a naive ‘one Nigerianist’ Ijaw man wrote a book many years after the fact, and you want us to take his word as gospel!? Dude, whatever Mr Douglas has to say should be treated no different to what say a Gowon, Awo, Murtala Mohammed, Saro-Wiwa or Boro has to say about the war!

Fact of the matter is discerning individuals now have the benefit of hindsight to know who made the right call at the time and who was way off mark! Since 1970, we all have been living the Nigeria the aforementioned fought for and fashioned! Hope you’re enjoying yourself as you live your ‘dream’!?

Stop putting your Ignorance on exhibition

Graham Douglas was the attorney general of the Eastern Region under Ojukwu, he was not a naive Ijaw man.


No wonder the Ijaws wanted out of Biafra fast.
Your attitude towards their leaders proves them right.

Ojiofor:
You disagreed over Aburi accord yet you signed the documents. No be juju be that?
You went to Ghana and was laughing like a clown while Ojukwu was there for business.

Where was the document? Which document was signed and by who?

Aburi would never have worked. It was never discuss with the other 3 regions, and most importantly, T.Y.Danjuma and Murtala Mohammed vehemently opposed it.

wirinet:
Where was the document? Which document was signed and by who?

Aburi would never have worked. It was never discuss with the other 3 regions, and most importantly, T.Y.Danjuma and Murtala Mohammed vehemently opposed it.

The four regional governors was in attendance and they all signed the Aburi accord.

Factcheck0001:
hope u say where he made it clear that seccesion shouldn't b included but ojukwu wanted secession?

If there is no succession Pakistan and Bangladesh will be in India by now.
Every country allows succession through referendum.

Factcheck0001:
God bless u


According to all history books I have read as regards d war.

Gowon never wanted a war n he was very soft in dealing with ojukwu but just like it is happening in present day Nigeria where they are insatiable.

Ojukwu just like Oliver twist wanted more and he believed he could get it, go n read pre war conference n interview granted by ojukwu n u will see he never rated Gowon.

He talked with so much confidence n so much believed he will defeat Gowon in no time

But he could have if not for foreign intervention.

I felt for Gowon. He wishes that war and death was not part of his life history.

Ojiofor:
The four regional governors was in attendance and they all signed the Aburi accord.

Please name the four regional governors in attendance, and I am yet to see a copy of any signed document.

tiwasiaife:
If there is no succession Pakistan and Bangladesh will be in India by now.
Every country allows succession through referendum.

Not every country. It has to be permitted by the constitution, and you arre aware that the Eastern Region did not support a secession clause in our constitution.

For you information, the US constitution does not permit secession from the Union. The also fought a civil war to keep the country one.

Governor cant control the military
Even the police is not control by governor abroad.

wirinet:
Please name the four regional governors in attendance, and I am yet to see a copy of any signed document.

Governor Ojukwu of Eastern region
Governor Ejor of mid western region
Governor Kastina of Northern region
And governor of western region.
Plus Gen Gowon who was the head of state they all agreed and willingly signed the Aburi accord.

sylve11:
Only the military? I find that hard to believe. Ojukwu was undoubtedly a strategist with the vision to take control of the entire nation, but his ambitions ultimately faltered due to greed.

Ojukwu wanted the entire south, he was a Zionist.
All he needed to do is take his Igbo land and go.

Wickedlywicked:
God/Allah bless you. I thought I was the only one seeing it this way. Gowon was too soft for my liking and the arrogance coming from each of Ojukwu’s speeches could be seen from a million miles away; dude was talking and giving conditions like he owned the country.
Which government in his right mind would agree to such ridiculous conditions? Ojukwu was like a governor. Now, imagine one State governor threatening President Tinubu, asking him to relinquish military power to each state. You think the President would just smile and have a friendly handshakes on hearing that?

Ojukwu was Gowon's senior in the army, so he felt he can't respect Gowon.
Gowon was just 26 years during that period, pride comes before fall, was Ojukwu not begged not to go to war?.
Instead he boasted that he had an army that can defeat the whole of Africa.
Even if he has the army, does he have the intelligence?.
He was a fool, or he would have prepared enough food storage for his army and his people or was he expecting manners from heaven?, during the war?.
Genocide my ass, some folks decided to commit mass suicide, and won't let us hear word today.
Gowon was given a job to do, and he did it that was what really matters.

Ojiofor:
Governor Ojukwu of Eastern region
Governor Ejor of mid western region
Governor Kastina of Northern region
And governor of western region.
Plus Gen Gowon who was the head of state they all agreed and willingly signed the Aburi accord.

You are funny o. First, you are harping on the lie that an accord was actually signed, I challenged you to provide proof of a signed document, but you just keep repeating that an accord was signed. Repeating a lie 1000 times cannot make it true.

Secondly and most importantly, who made Ojukwu, Ejor and Kastina Governor? Were they representatives of their regions? Even the appointed military governor of the Western Region, Lieutenant Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi was not even at the conference. Maybe any yoruba man that attend the conference was deemed to be representing the whole western region.
The government of Aguiyi ironsi was a illegal government
The Government of Yakubu Gowon was an illegal government.
All appointed governors of the regions were illegal governments
They had no mandate to split the country.

If Aguiyi ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Ojukwu and their fellow military conspirators were not power hungry, they would have returned the country to democratic rule after the failed coup or successful counter coup, instead to attempting to divide the country along their sphere of influence.

wirinet:
You are funny o. First, you are harping on the lie thar an accord was actually signed, I challenged you to provide proof of a signed document, but you just keep repeating that an accord was signed. Repeating a lie 1000 times cannot make it true.

Secondly and most importantly, who made Ojukwu, Ejor and Kastina Governor? Are they representatives of their regions? Even the appointed military governor of the Western Region, Lieutenant Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi was not even in the conference. Maybe any yoruba man that was invites to attend the conference would have been deemed representing the whole western region.
The government of Aguiyi ironsi was a illegal government
The Government of Yakubu Gowon was an illegal government.
All appointed governors of the regions were illegal governments
They had no mandate to split the country.

If Aguiyi ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Ojukwu and their fellow military conspirators were not power hungry, they would have returned the country to democratic rule after the failed coup or successful counter coup, instead to attempting to divide the country along their sphere of influence.

No need to continue this debate with you because your ignorance of Nigeria history is pathetic.