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If in heaven we will be happy forever, why didn't God create us directly in heaven?

In Psalms 115:16 says “As for the heavens, they belong to God, but the earth he has given to the sons of man.” So God created us to live on the earth.
In Psalms 37:10–1+29 says “the wicked will be gone but the righteous will live on the earth forever in an abundance of peace.” That was God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden. God’s purpose hasn’t changed. That’s why he gave his son to die for us. John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son for those who believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Everlasting life right here on earth. In Ecclesiastes 1:4 says “A generation is going, and a generation is coming, but the earth remains forever.”

What is the hype of heaven?

When thinking of what heaven is like may conjure some thoughts about clouds, harps, streets of gold, a nice house. All while worshiping one supreme being.

If I were completely honest, I too have thought of things I’d rather do than spend an eternity in Heaven. What about traveling around the globe visiting destination spots and the wonders of this world? This sound like an option that I personally would prefer.

After all, humanity was created to rule over this earth and everything in it.

The Earth | To harvest its contents, to rule and subdue it.
the land
the sky
the sea
every creature
that flies in the air
swims in the sea
walks/crawls/creeps on the earth
Everything that has breath
Every plant that grows
So why Heaven? Why is the end-game to take humanity out of Earth and place humanity in God’s space?

why do you want to go to heaven?

fuckJones:
Why do you want to go to heaven?

No ancient servant of God wish to go to heaven because God never wanted man to live in heaven.

First time faithful people heard that they will go to heaven they were confused in fact they found it really strange and they started asking Jesus who told them many questions regarding this new plan.

So what led to this new development?

Jesus was to rule in Jerusalem (zion) the throne of David {Isaiah 9:6-7} and in the whole world faithful people will have to depend on the Jews for our salvation {Zechariah 8:23} but the Jews made their city an accursed land {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} in fact they unanimously said the blood of innocent Jesus should be asked from them {Matthew 27:24-25} something God warned them never to try! Deuteronomy 27:25

That's why Jesus told his faithful friends that they should forget about Jerusalem because in his father's house (heaven) their are many dwelling places so he is going to PREPARE another place for them where they will stay as his corulers. John 14:1-3 compare to Revelations 14:1

Originally only Israelites supposed to be his corulers {Revelations 7:5-7} but if checked carefully you will notice that the names listed in Revelations 7:5-7 is not the real name of the twelve tribes of Israel {Exodus 1:2-5} and that is because the book of Revelations was written in parables.

Jesus used an illustration to tell us why his corulers must come from different nations of the earth! Matthew 22:2-14

There is no heaven or hell, that's just undemonstratable superstitious nonsense. How could Yhwh who's barely 3500 years old have created a universe 13.8 billion years old. Only in mythology.

Lucifyre:
There is no heaven or hell, that's just undemonstratable superstitious nonsense. How could Yhwh who's barely 3500 years old have created a universe 13.8 billion years old. Only in mythology.

Please can you help me with information on the date YHWH was born?

Lucifyre:
There is no heaven or hell, that's just undemonstratable superstitious nonsense. How could Yhwh who's barely 3500 years old have created a universe 13.8 billion years old. Only in mythology.

who created the earth ? how did you know the earth is 13.8 billions years?

We are Gods who came to earth to experience it. When we expire, we go back being God's.

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you help me with information on the date YHWH was born?

You mean the god you've been worshipping all this while didn't tell you his birthday? Ain't nice nau.

Lucifyre:
You mean the god you've been worshipping all this while didn't tell you his birthday? Ain't nice nau.

I thought you know the way you typed as if you were there!

MaxInDHouse:
I thought you know the way you typed as if you were there!

Didn't know the only way to know is to be present. Certainly explains all the confusion in xtianity and the bible as non of you even the writers were there. lol!

Lucifyre:
Didn't know the only way to know is to be present. Certainly explains all the confusion in xtianity and the bible as non of you even the writers were there. lol!

So you just made an assertion that's not founded simply because you wish there is no God!
Well for your information the name you wish to bear "Lucifer" simply means the morning star:

*How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isaiah 14:12 KJV
*How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! ‭Isaiah 14:12 NIV‬
*How you have fallen from heaven, O shining one, son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth, You who vanquished nations! Isaiah 14:12 NWT

And that's what God called all His spirit sons {Job 38:7} except Jesus who only had "BRIGHT" in addition to his own title as one of the morning stars. Revelations 1:5

So stop being hopeless there is God and a BRIGHT FUTURE for faithful people you may wish everyone become hopeless like you but it's not helping you in anyway!

fuckJones:
If in heaven we will be happy forever, why didn't God create us directly in heaven?

In Psalms 115:16 says “As for the heavens, they belong to God, but the earth he has given to the sons of man.” So God created us to live on the earth.
In Psalms 37:10–1+29 says “the wicked will be gone but the righteous will live on the earth forever in an abundance of peace.” That was God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden. God’s purpose hasn’t changed. That’s why he gave his son to die for us. John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son for those who believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Everlasting life right here on earth. In Ecclesiastes 1:4 says “A generation is going, and a generation is coming, but the earth remains forever.”

What is the hype of heaven?

When thinking of what heaven is like may conjure some thoughts about clouds, harps, streets of gold, a nice house. All while worshiping one supreme being.

If I were completely honest, I too have thought of things I’d rather do than spend an eternity in Heaven. What about traveling around the globe visiting destination spots and the wonders of this world? This sound like an option that I personally would prefer.

After all, humanity was created to rule over this earth and everything in it.

The Earth | To harvest its contents, to rule and subdue it.
the land
the sky
the sea
every creature
that flies in the air
swims in the sea
walks/crawls/creeps on the earth
Everything that has breath
Every plant that grows
So why Heaven? Why is the end-game to take humanity out of Earth and place humanity in God’s space?

why do you want to go to heaven?

There are no heaven anywhere!
God is here on earth with us

MaxInDHouse:
So you just made an assertion that's not founded [

😅 Im trying to be a good christain nau, isn't that what it's all about, making baseless undemonstrable assertions and taking it all on "faith". I'm quite sure I'm doing it right, so ask Yhwh for the " day he was born", he'll reveal it in the spirit. Peace be unto you. 😄

Lucifyre:
😅 Im trying to be a good christain nau, isn't that what it's all about, making baseless undemonstrable assertions and taking it all on "faith". I'm quite sure I'm doing it right, so ask Yhwh for the " day he was born", he'll reveal it in the spirit. Peace be unto you. 😄

Funny enough you can continue whatever pleases you at least you can't stop faithful people from living up to their faith!

Lucifyre:
There is no heaven or hell, that's just undemonstratable superstitious nonsense. How could Yhwh who's barely 3500 years old have created a universe 13.8 billion years old. Only in mythology.

Yet you are petrified with fear when you are about to die. You are just deceiving yourself

If only people read before they speak.

The bible clearly said the place of happiness is in "a new heaven and earth".

Yet people like the op are still stuck on the old silly chant.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny enough you can continue whatever pleases you at least you can't stop faithful people from living up to their faith!

No one cares man, no one cares. There are better things to do than shadow boxing, don't you think so bro max 😁

Lucifyre:
No one cares man, no one cares. There are better things to do than shadow boxing, don't you think so bro max 😁

You're living in your own world!

Millions of my own brothers and sisters CARES if you don't have anyone to care about you i do have millions!

MaxInDHouse:
You're living in your own world!

Millions of my own brothers and sisters CARES if you don't have anyone to care about you i do have millions!

Wow i didn't know honestly, at least until you educated me now. Didn't know millions of your own brothers and sisters care about stopping faithful people from living up to their faith. You learn everyday. Thanks.

Lucifyre:
Wow i didn't know honestly, at least until you educated me now. Didn't know millions of your own brothers and sisters care about stopping faithful people from living up to their faith. You learn everyday. Thanks.

Anyhow you wish to twist my comments at least you know that millions put faith in God's word and nothing can stop them from worshiping their God!

MaxInDHouse:
Anyhow you wish to twist my comments at least you know that millions put faith in God's word and nothing can stop them from worshiping their God!

At least only you used your hand to type and assert it, not me😅. Maybe holy/unholy spirit confused you cause you lie too much or maybe it's even Yhwh's wife.😄

Lucifyre:
At least only you used your hand to type and assert it, not me😅. Maybe holy/unholy spirit confused you cause you lie too much. 😄

Lie!

Well that means you always speak truth since you know the difference between truth and lies shey?

MaxInDHouse:
Lie!

Well that means you always speak truth since you know the difference between truth and lies shey?

Lol! so you even know you lie 🤣
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Lucifyre:
Lol! so you even know you lie 🤣
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Walahi talahi i never knew until you told me but may i confirm the truth by asking you how to ascertain the day YHWH was born?

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi i never knew until you told me but may i confirm the truth by asking you how to ascertain the day YHWH was born?

Who said Yhwh was born, I didn't know he was born, who's his mother??

Lucifyre:
Who said Yhwh was born, I didn't know he was born, who's his mother??

This is your post:

Lucifyre:
How could Yhwh who's barely 3500 years old have created a universe 13.8 billion years old. Only in mythology.

Please how do you know the date of Yahweh's birth?

MaxInDHouse:
This is your post:


Please how do you think know the date of Yahweh's birth?

Damn this is what happens when religion puts one's brain in a box. You can't think outside said box. I also said the earth is 4.5billion yrs old, do you want to know when it was born too? 😄

Lucifyre:
Damn this is what happens when religion puts one's brain in a box. You can't think outside said box. I also said the earth is 4.5billion yrs old, do you want to know when it was born too? 😄

Yes of course!
Please were you there when the earth was born?
If not how did you know all of these?
The age of Yahweh and that of the earth, please i will like to know too not just what someone else told you in a book but for certainty.
Thanks!

fuckJones:
If in heaven we will be happy forever, why didn't God create us directly in heaven?

In Psalms 115:16 says “As for the heavens, they belong to God, but the earth he has given to the sons of man.” So God created us to live on the earth.
In Psalms 37:10–1+29 says “the wicked will be gone but the righteous will live on the earth forever in an abundance of peace.” That was God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden. God’s purpose hasn’t changed. That’s why he gave his son to die for us. John 3:16 says “For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son for those who believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Everlasting life right here on earth. In Ecclesiastes 1:4 says “A generation is going, and a generation is coming, but the earth remains forever.”

What is the hype of heaven?

When thinking of what heaven is like may conjure some thoughts about clouds, harps, streets of gold, a nice house. All while worshiping one supreme being.

If I were completely honest, I too have thought of things I’d rather do than spend an eternity in Heaven. What about traveling around the globe visiting destination spots and the wonders of this world? This sound like an option that I personally would prefer.

After all, humanity was created to rule over this earth and everything in it.

The Earth | To harvest its contents, to rule and subdue it.
the land
the sky
the sea
every creature
that flies in the air
swims in the sea
walks/crawls/creeps on the earth
Everything that has breath
Every plant that grows
So why Heaven? Why is the end-game to take humanity out of Earth and place humanity in God’s space?

why do you want to go to heaven?

A few things here, no verse in the bible says that God’s original purpose, for man to live forever in the garden of eden.
And by that logic, you are calling God a failure because he was unable to achieve his plan.

MaxInDHouse:
Yes of course!
Please where you there when the earth was born?
If not how did you know all of these?
The age of Yahweh and that of the earth, please i will like to know too not just what someone else told you in a book but for certainty.
Thanks!

Can you imagine, earth born?! When they say take educational seriously, it sounds like a joke. Who is earth's mother?! How long was she pregnant with earth? Is it Mars or Theia?. I would like to know, not the one in a book written by iron age peasants but for certainty. 😁

Lucifyre:
Can you imagine, earth born?! When they say take educational seriously, it sounds like a joke. Who is earth's mother?! How long was she pregnant with earth. I would like to know, not the one in a book written by iron age peasants but for certainty. 😁

So in a nutshell you don't have any idea about when Yahweh was born neither when earth was formed shey?

Thanks for your time!