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I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

lantres000:
Dear Friends

I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

How are the spark plugs like are they oily. You might need to do a compression test just to confirm state of the piston rings

How are the spark plugs like are they oily. You might need to do a compression test just to confirm state of the piston rings[/quote]Smart guy !
I forgot to add that the [plugs were changed and the nozzle serviced. Also, the plugs were not oily when it was changed. How do i go about the compression test?

You’ll have to visit a mechanic with such tool to be able to do that. If it’s up too spec, you might have to have your engine torn down to check for worn out component

lantres000:
Dear Friends

I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

Ask your mechanic to check out the oil seal. He will have to open up the engine and look for leaks around the oil seal ..

Also the mileage of the car matters too The higher miles the engine has the more likely it can likely shorten oil. It should not be that much....

If all fails, you have to use thicker oil . Plz don't use 20w50.. use 10w40 .. this should be your last result

New engine loading..... For now keep topping it up.
It's a pity. When U gauge the oil, rev up the engine to 2500/3000 rpm. Check the exhaust for smoke.

lantres000:
Dear Friends

I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

Belgium engine or Ring the engine (all valve seal must be changed with genuine parts)

lantres000:
How are the spark plugs like are they oily. You might need to do a compression test just to confirm state of the piston rings

Smart guy !
I forgot to add that the [plugs were changed and the nozzle serviced. Also, the plugs were not oily when it was changed. How do i go about the compression test?

Your valve stem seals are the culprit, look for competent mechanic

Mo need to ting the engine.its not the rings. The car started smoking after a month I guess.do u know why. Bad fuel.bad naija fake oil.carbon accumulation around the piston grooves.top of piston. Pcv na waste of money. U need to apply thinner and seafoam to the fuel tank and fire the engine for good 1 hour on express....

Louiscars:
You’ll have to visit a mechanic with such tool to be able to do that. If it’s up too spec, you might have to have your engine torn down to check for worn out component

Mechanic tearing down engine sounds like a disaster o. E no no get any other way around this ?

lantres000:
Mechanic tearing down engine sounds like a disaster o. E no no get any other way around this ?

If giving to competent tech you have no need to worry it’ll work just fine. Because, at the end of the day if truly there isn’t any external leak you’d still have to open up the engine if it’s already wearing out or worse case get a replacement which isn’t cheap

lantres000:
Mechanic tearing down engine sounds like a disaster o. E no no get any other way around this ?

Nobody has asked you the most basic question
1. What brand of engine oil have you been using and the weight.

Let's start from there first

mejai:
New engine loading..... For now keep topping it up.
It's a pity. When U gauge the oil, rev up the engine to 2500/3000 rpm. Check the exhaust for smoke.

I have done that severally. It is not smoking that am very sure

nurey:
Nobody has asked you the most basic question
1. What brand of engine oil have you been using and the weight.

Let's start from there first

The engine oil i use is 5W 20. Do you think i upgrade or down grade the Oil ?

lantres000:
The engine oil i use is 5W 20. Do you think i upgrade or down grade the Oil ?

Brand?

Better still snap the pix of the container

nurey:
Nobody has asked you the most basic question
1. What brand of engine oil have you been using and the weight.

Let's start from there first

Very true actually should have been the first question to ask 🙏

lantres000:
Dear Friends

I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

1. What engine is in this car? 2AR or 2GR?
2. What is the mileage?
3. When did you import it and what fixes did you do before you started noticing this oil shortage?
4. What's the rate of shortage? 1L every 1000 miles?
5. What oil are currently using?

Your mechanic is on the right path. He started with the easier and most probable fix first. Did he replace the pcv or did he "service" it?

Stick your hand in your exhaust pipe, if you notice thick black oily soot, then your car is truly burning oil. This eliminates leaks

Have someone else drive the car while you follow in another car. Sometimes, some cars only smoke when being driven. They smoke lightly which makes it difficult for the owner to notice while driving it. If it's smoking, take a note of whether the smoke is continuous during acceleration or if its intermittent.

lantres000:
Dear Friends

I imported a 2014 Toyota Camry SE edition sometime in December 2024. Every thing was going on well till i discovered the car is shorting oil and had to top up.

My mechanic scanned the vehicle and suggested we change the PCV Valve(Positive Crankcase ventilation Valve). The PCV valve has been changed and still i am experiencing the oil Shutting.

Mind you we have checked for Oil leakages every where and couldn't find any, and the Engine is not smoking.

I will appreciate any suggestions here to troubleshoot this. I am scared of having further encounter with a mechanic so that things dont get worse

I guess your Toyota uses 2AR engine.

I'd advise you to keep using it like that and be topping the oil. Don't go and rebuild the engine o. And don't bother buying tokunbo engine because there's no guarantee the new tokunbo engine won't be burning oil too.

Most modern Toyota engines will start burning oil past a certain mileage. Especially if the previous owner was not changing oil frequently.

The culprit is weak oil control rings that Toyota uses in most of their modern engines in a bid to improve MPG.

If I were you,I'd be managing it like that. While being careful to be monitoring it closely.

Your car might be burning oil at higher rpm, so it probably has over 200k miles on the engine.

if it is burning oil that you can notice there should be a CEL.

When the oil was changed in Nigeria did you use 4 litres or 1 gallon of oil, and if you parked on a cardboard at night do you have oil drip or leak under the car?

9icetoo:
1. What engine is in this car? 2AR or 2GR?
2. What is the mileage?
3. When did you import it and what fixes did you do before you started noticing this oil shortage?
4. What's the rate of shortage? 1L every 1000 miles?
5. What oil are currently using?

Your mechanic is on the right path. He started with the easier and most probable fix first. Did he replace the pcv or did he "service" it?

Stick your hand in your exhaust pipe, if you notice thick black oily soot, then your car is truly burning oil. This eliminates leaks

Have someone else drive the car while you follow in another car. Sometimes, some cars only smoke when being driven. They smoke lightly which makes it difficult for the owner to notice while driving it. If it's smoking, take a note of whether the smoke is continuous during acceleration or if its intermittent.

The engine is the 2AR
Current mileage is 155,000
imported December 2024
fixes carried out was just a back bumper and i have purchase the vehicle history from Carfax and it has passed all emission test since the inception of the car purchase
rate of shortage is every 500KM


So i have changed the oil and the problem seems to have solve. i am currently using a 5W 20 so lets monitor it and see

Alaye your rings are stuck. U cant know the problem has been solved by driving like an old woman.u have started messing up the engine.ifbu like use mobil 1 from yankee.it will still smoke i dare u. Take the car to express and match it to at least 4000 rpm..dont be scared to look thru your rear view mirror.u go see cloud of smoke.

lantres000:
The engine is the 2AR
Current mileage is 155,000
imported December 2024
fixes carried out was just a back bumper and i have purchase the vehicle history from Carfax and it has passed all emission test since the inception of the car purchase
rate of shortage is every 500KM


So i have changed the oil and the problem seems to have solve. i am currently using a 5W 20 so lets monitor it and see

lantres000:
The engine is the 2AR
Current mileage is 155,000
imported December 2024
fixes carried out was just a back bumper and i have purchase the vehicle history from Carfax and it has passed all emission test since the inception of the car purchase
rate of shortage is every 500KM


So i have changed the oil and the problem seems to have solve. i am currently using a 5W 20 so lets monitor it and see

1 litre every 500km is above the allowable limit. You may choose to drive the car like that as its not a death sentence on the engine yet.
It might just be failed oil control rings or plugged oil return hols in the piston.

Keep an eye on the consumption though.

Things that could help
1. Use synthetic oil. This will clean out the gunk on the oil control rings and oil return holes
2. Decrease your oil change interval.
3. Take the car for a sprint and maintain high revs (Google Italian tune up)
4. See if you can order ferryman b12 and follow the guides before your next oil change.

These are helpful tips that dont require invasive engine work.

Cheers

9icetoo:
1 litre every 500km is above the allowable limit. You may choose to drive the car like that as its not a death sentence on the engine yet.
It might just be failed oil control rings or plugged oil return hols in the piston.

Keep an eye on the consumption though.

Things that could help
1. Use synthetic oil. This will clean out the gunk on the oil control rings and oil return holes
2. Decrease your oil change interval.
3. Take the car for a sprint and maintain high revs (Google Italian tune up)
4. See if you can order ferryman b12 and follow the guides before your next oil change.

These are helpful tips that dont require invasive engine work.

Cheers

Thanks a lot i will give you this a short and most importantly take it for a wild spin to see if its smoking

Its smoking. Bad fuel anx fake oil has clouded your pistons....im speaking from experience. A toks car in naija would work wella for good 6months. Check out most toks cars that are driven daily after a year.u go know say naija na dead country. Its either its smoking badly or the body is gone u can only enjoy toks cars in the north. Babanla smooth road.fire down.na why aboki accident no dey get any survivor cos dem dey match am.

lantres000:
Thanks a lot i will give you this a short and most importantly take it for a wild spin to see if its smoking

lantres000:
The engine is the 2AR
Current mileage is 155,000
imported December 2024
fixes carried out was just a back bumper and i have purchase the vehicle history from Carfax and it has passed all emission test since the inception of the car purchase
rate of shortage is every 500KM


So i have changed the oil and the problem seems to have solve. i am currently using a 5W 20 so lets monitor it and see

The recommended oil is 0w20 .if the car still short oil use 0w30 ... 5w20 is only recommended if 0w20 is no available,but must revert back to 0w20 on the next oil change.........

Gauge it only in the morning to get accurate reading.

Sometimes the oil return oil ca get too restricted and it will take a lot of time to have it return

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fineboynl:
Gauge it only in the morning to get accurate reading.

Sometimes the oil return oil ca get too restricted and it will take a lot of time to have it return