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WritterNg:

Imagine spending your entire existence defending your white master only for dem to slap travel ban on your big empty head.

All their hopes and dreams will die there in Nigeria.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Unpopular Opinion

I do feel like Russians pushed out a false narrative against the Iranians when they said they Iran rejected a military alliance. I mean they never gave Iran the option of a military alliance in that agreement. Iran cannot reject what did not exist. i.e Pure propaganda.
I have my reasons; according to Asian Times.

i. Russia has deployed its most advanced S-400 air defense system to Syria, but the sophisticated weapon does not seem to work against Israeli jets.

It is an open secret that Moscow, an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, allows Israel to conduct air strikes against both the Syrian army and Iranian militias operating in the country. Russia’s supremacy over Syria’s airspace helped turn the conflict in Assad’s favor, so why does it allow Israel to carry out its operations unimpeded?

ii. On December 28, Israeli warplanes attacked the container complex at the port of Latakia, in a part of Syria where Russia maintains its main naval base. The strikes hit a yard thought to house Iranian weapons shipments.

This was Israel’s second attempt to destroy the cargo. The first one took place on December 7, but was apparently less successful than the latest air strike, which caused significant damage.

That night, neither Russia’s S-400 nor Syria’s air defense systems attempted to hit the Israeli planes. The truth is, Russia never activates its air defense systems against Israeli jets. Such passivity is believed to be part of a wider deal between the two countries

iii.
For Assad and the Iranians, the Kremlin acts as an unreliable ally and partner. In 2010 Moscow refused to sell S-300 air defense systems to Tehran, bending to pressure from the United States and Israel. In 2019, Russia again rejected an Iranian request to buy S-400 systems, concerned that the sale would stoke more tension in the Middle East.

Even now that the UN Security Council embargo on conventional arms shipments to Iran is no longer in effect, it remains highly uncertain if Moscow will sell the S-400 to Tehran. The Kremlin is allegedly concerned that Israel could respond by providing sophisticated drones to Ukraine, where there are fears of an impending war with Russia

It's on record that Kremlin have refused to sell air defense to Tehran.. Refused to sell fighter jets to Iran too even after the United Nations Security Council imposed sanctions on Iran expired. This is a transactional diplomacy while it is good for short-term benefit others friendly countries will see you as an unreliable ally who cannot be trusted.

Please even if you don't agree with my opinion at least remain civil...

FoolishBoy419:
Maybe they were taking out the boosters 😂

And come to think of it, those Onana systems only needed to protect a country half the size of Kaduna.

Mikasaobi:
Dude Putin said it himself in his speech, he said Iran and Russia are fighting the same people.

Crayfish09:
There is something fishy about Putin. He abandoned Armenia. He abandoned Syria. He failed to deliver jets to Iran on time and diverted Egypt's SU35 delivery to Algeria. It took him a long time to acknowledge that North Koreans were dying for him. I am assuming the Ukraine war is responsible for this if not, then the jewish oligarchs in Russia must have bought him over too. Whatever the case is, he is sending the wrong message to his allies.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Unpopular Opinion

I do feel like Russians pushed out a false narrative against the Iranians when they said they Iran rejected a military alliance. I mean they never gave Iran the option of a military alliance in that agreement. Iran cannot reject what did not exist. i.e Pure propaganda.
I have my reasons; according to Asian Times.

i. Russia has deployed its most advanced S-400 air defense system to Syria, but the sophisticated weapon does not seem to work against Israeli jets.

It is an open secret that Moscow, an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, allows Israel to conduct air strikes against both the Syrian army and Iranian militias operating in the country. Russia’s supremacy over Syria’s airspace helped turn the conflict in Assad’s favor, so why does it allow Israel to carry out its operations unimpeded?

ii. On December 28, Israeli warplanes attacked the container complex at the port of Latakia, in a part of Syria where Russia maintains its main naval base. The strikes hit a yard thought to house Iranian weapons shipments.

This was Israel’s second attempt to destroy the cargo. The first one took place on December 7, but was apparently less successful than the latest air strike, which caused significant damage.

That night, neither Russia’s S-400 nor Syria’s air defense systems attempted to hit the Israeli planes. The truth is, Russia never activates its air defense systems against Israeli jets. Such passivity is believed to be part of a wider deal between the two countries

iii.
For Assad and the Iranians, the Kremlin acts as an unreliable ally and partner. In 2010 Moscow refused to sell S-300 air defense systems to Tehran, bending to pressure from the United States and Israel. In 2019, Russia again rejected an Iranian request to buy S-400 systems, concerned that the sale would stoke more tension in the Middle East.

Even now that the UN Security Council embargo on conventional arms shipments to Iran is no longer in effect, it remains highly uncertain if Moscow will sell the S-400 to Tehran. The Kremlin is allegedly concerned that Israel could respond by providing sophisticated drones to Ukraine, where there are fears of an impending war with Russia

It's on record that Kremlin have refused to sell air defense to Tehran.. Refused to sell fighter jets to Iran too even after the United Nations Security Council imposed sanctions on Iran expired. This is a transactional diplomacy while it is good for short-term benefit others friendly countries will see you as an unreliable ally who cannot be trusted.

Please even if you don't agree with my opinion at least remain civil...

Hoaxen:
You're the one who should explain how approximately 2000 ballistic missiles and drones were able to destroy 30000 buildings according to your claim that Israeli air defense did not intercept any.

LordAdam16:
It is not an unpopular opinion.

Russia hasn't covered itself in glory in this episode.

However, we do have a verifiable quote of an IRGC Aerospace General saying Iran did not request the S-400.
Russia sold S-300s to Iran.

The jet delay and not intervening are definitely Russian misses.
Even that is not black and white.
On the jets, the rumor vine says Iran asked for full transfer of all military technologies used to produce the Su-35.
Iran wanted to produce everything in house. Start with the Su-35 and use the transferred tech to develop an indigenous 5th and then 6th gen fighter.
Russia rejected that demand. Iran apparently dropped this demand only recently.

On intervening in Syria, well, the Assad government was selling out Iranian and Hezbollah operatives to Israel.
Iran ignored this because Assad was their only option. There was a tripartite understanding between Assad, Russia, and Israel to feed Israel scraps in return for Israel not attacking Syrian battle-weary military formations. That obviously ended poorly, but the plan had some success for years. In fact, it would have kept working if Turkey didn't throw their hat in the ring. The shipments to Hezbollah continued of course, but as with the Cartel, there had to be a few showy drug busts.

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The Axis is a loose network of historical foes united by opposition to the Hegemony. Persia lost the most territory to the Russian Empire. Dagestan (in Russia), Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia.
These were all historical Iranian lands. Losing Azerbaijan really stung. At a point, Russia needed to give its approval before a Shah could be coronated.
So there is some bad blood there to be resolved that makes a full-on entente testy. That's their backstory.

Alliances can flip on a dime of course.
But Iran is not leaping at the chance as enthusiastically as China has for example.
China lost territory to Russia but they are a superpower now. Maybe someday they'll revisit it, but today Russia can be a strategic ally with which they can have a no-limits equal partnership. Iran is exercising more care because a similar no-limits partnership will not be equal.

Russia saved Khamenei's life.
On Day 2/3, Israel was trying to seed a global narrative to justify killing Khamenei. Trump was talking about knowing where he is and sh*t.
All of that stopped, or at least the verve diminished, after the Kremlin intervened.

And we can't forget about Medvedev's threat of the Axis transferring nukes that spooked Trump personally.

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I do agree with you in the general sense that Iran is better off pivoting to China.
I've alluded to this a few times.
The only thing they need from Russia are S-400s. They can get everything else from China.
Warships, jets, even supplementary air defense (China already sold and delivered the HQ-22 AD equivalent to S-300 to Serbia).
China is already Iran's primary supplier of components for their missile and drone program.
China is also Iran's primary supplier of satellite services for military applications.
China is also Iran's primary economic guarantor.

The RIC [Russia-Iran-China] partnership is as strong today as ever.
Reservations exist to be sure, but I feel it is a misread to view it as not enough has been done and more of a "what more can be done".
Because at the end of the day, Iran, without anyone's prodding wants to be "independent".
They want to negotiate with the West. They want a deal with the West.
They don't want a nuke. No one is forcing them to adopt these positions.
Russia had a base in Iran. Iran closed it.

Russia is currently facing the prospects of a NATO force deployed under the guise of peacekeeping.
Should it be selling half a dozen S-400s and four squadrons of Su-35s when only North Korea will deploy troops?

-Lord

Hoaxen:
Advanced weapons aren't free, if any nation wants one, they should be ready to shell out hundreds of millions or even billions.

I don't think sanctioned Iran can afford it.

Russia did not give away those weapons free of charge.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Good to know that you're also observing. Russia have delivered Iskander missiles systems to Algeria, delivered Su-35 fighter jets too,, and by the end of the year they will receive Russian fifth generation military aircraft i.e Su-57. This is Algeria, a country not at war or facing external aggression.

Iran has provided Russia with missile against Ukraine even damning Western economic sanctions. Provided them with drones, even gave them the technology and built Shaheed drone factory in Russian soil.

My brother since how many years I have been hearing that Russia is about to, will, would, shall, should, may, might supply Su-35 to Iran. Nothing was supplied.

It's even worse when you see how Israel is openly supporting Ukraine....

https://united24media.com/latest-news/israel-has-transferred-patriot-systems-to-ukraine-ambassador-confirms-8986

Crayfish09:
It is very likely that the delays are deliberate. NATO rallied around Ukraine and provided them with modern weapons despite not having any binding security agreement between them that I know of. They are not even EU members, but they're getting the solidarity and funding they need. China is planning to sell their best stealth aircraft the J-35 to Pakistan but with Russia, all we are seeing is series of betrayals at crucial moments. Why remind the world that Israel is a Russian-speaking country after it has just conspired with your enemies to illegally attack your supposed ally? Iran will be wise to strengthen alliance with China even if it means limiting their nuclear program. At least China openly supported them in the conflict despite opposing their nuclear project.

sainttwist1:
some just people just choose to be ignorant or they just choose to be blind to reality.

missiles and drones were fired into a city most of them were intercepted.......do you want the debris to vanish into thin air, the impact will shatter glasses, debris will fall on buildings, cars etc. even the few that was manage to get through will still cause more damage or destruction.

the owner of the properties have the right to claim damages from the government or insurance company....

the article that was quoted said 'claims' yet ..................smh.

Allthelight:
Reasons why Russia won't sell Iran anything is because Iran's nuclear program is a threat so they will thank Israel for stopping it.


And Russia's weapons are not good enough

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Even though Iran is under illegal and unilateral Western economic sanctions. They still have a more thriving economy than Algeria. Any Russian made weapon which Algeria can afford to buy then Iran too can afford them. This is not about Iran being poor.

Allthelight:
Reasons why Russia won't sell Iran anything is because Iran's nuclear program is a threat so they will thank Israel for stopping it.


And Russia's weapons are not good enough

WritterNg:
That thing Putin did irritated me. Imagine your supposed ally being targeted right left and center and being bombed to shit.

You still had to come to talk about Israel being a Russian speaking country bla bla bla. I think Putin has a sentimental attachment to Israel.

Come to think of it, Russia paid the ultimate price for Jewish freedom today, so there's no way that won't mean something.

Anyways that is that. You all may have to look at it from another angle. What if Russia is refusing to transfer those weapon technologies to Iran because they're afraid of it falling into the wrong hands. Into the hands of terrorist groups.

Iran does not seem like a country that can carefully guard state secrets.

Gbadebo19:
Just like the way you are earnestly defending a country that packed you in a bagco bag and sent you to the spirits know where?

WritterNg:
🇱🇾 Libya's Haftar had a military parade a few months back.... And the number of Russian weaponry I saw on display really shocked me.

Even the director of the FSB attended the event. So I'm asking.. Why is Russia supplying these to ordinary Libya and not Iran?

There's more to the story they're not telling us.