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R.I.P to a great man. Was he the one who gave Dangote money to start his business in the 70s? And why do they keep saying may Allah forgive him? What crime did he commit that everyone is wishing him R.I.P and begging God to forgive him. Was he an evil man or what? And I thought there's no forgiveness once you're dead. It's either paradise or hell. Someone enlighten me.

Money discourages nonsense. His body is performing a world tour instead of going into the ground in twenty-four hours. It’s obvious his country of heritage wasn’t worth nourishment from his corpse. Off to his colonizers’ land it goes.

lacasera14:
R.I.P to a great man. Was he the one who gave Dangote money to start his business in the 70s? And why do they keep saying may Allah forgive him? What crime did he commit that everyone is wishing him R.I.P and begging God to forgive him. Was he an evil man or what? And I thought there's no forgiveness once you're dead. It's either paradise or hell. Someone enlighten me.

Saying may Allah forgive him doesn’t mean he is a bad man. It just a prayer that Allah forgives his imperfections (as no human is perfect)

dreamxhaser:
Saying may Allah forgive him doesn’t mean he is a bad man. It just a prayer that Allah forgives his imperfections (as no human is perfect)

But it's too late for that kind of prayer na. There's no forgiveness after death they should just say may His Soul Rest in Peace. Nothing like forgiveness.

This man had been sooooooooo good and excellent during our child hood days. U walk they say u r walking like Alhaji dantata, u speak they say u speak like Alhaji dantata attributing all actions to riches. He is such a wonderful and finest philanthropist Nigeria ever got. Non rival like him to compare.
I love u Alhaji, ur good works will see u through wia u r going. Bless ur dying nation to resuscitate it's economy.
Adieu Alhaji

CreativeOrbit:
It’s important to understand that, in Islam, the honor of being buried in places like Medina is not a guarantee of paradise. Muslims believe that salvation is ultimately determined by one’s faith, deeds, and the mercy of Allah — not merely by the location of burial.

The significance of Medina comes from its historical and spiritual value as the city of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Many Muslims wish to be buried there due to its blessings, but Islamic teachings make it clear that the final judgment rests with God alone.

I hope this clarifies the misconception.

Unfortunately the truth is not welcomed by Muslims, I would have spoken my mind AND I would have received a ban which will not make you see my post.

So, until otherwise, I will speak only what Muslims want to hear!
I will not also justify my claims with evidences
You should also accept whatever nice things I say about Allah, Islam, Mohammed and Muslims!

Dantata is inside his grave enjoying bliss!
He knows the answers to the three Question of
What is your Religion : Islam!
Who is your Prophet : Prophet mohammed
Who is your Lord : Allah

Surely, Dantata knows the Answers to these three Questions!


On your first paragraph (before i collect another ban)

Sahih Muslim 2816f
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
None amongst you can get. into Paradise by virtue of his deeds alone. They said: Allah's Messenger, not even you? Thereupon he said: Not even I, but that Allah should wrap me in His Grace and Mercy.

I thought is a taboo not to bury a Muslim the same day of his demise.

Northern elites have been burying their patrons in Saudi and UAE, maybe they see something we dont about the Northern region.

Nigeria can never be completely independent, we're connected to the British along our governance system and deeply connected to the Arabs along religious lines

Aldebaran:
See levels

Born in Nigeria

Died in United Arab Emirates

Buried in Saudi Arabia

From Saudi Arabia to heaven where the 72 virgins are waiting for him

lol after paying a lot of money sha bury am make we rest

I thought muslims bury the dead ones immediately

is that why he stayed in UAE

why DSS dey give troublemakers easy pass?

pinkguy:
Sire his money was too much because Saudi Arabian use him to establish wahabi Islam or terrorist in Nigeria, he was a major sponsor , DSs are awered of this

TenQ:
Unfortunately the truth is not welcomed by Muslims, I would have spoken my mind AND I would have received a ban which will not make you see my post.

So, until otherwise, I will speak only what Muslims want to hear!
I will not also justify my claims with evidences
You should also accept whatever nice things I say about Allah, Islam, Mohammed and Muslims!

Dantata is inside his grave enjoying bliss!
He knows the answers to the three Question of
What is your Religion : Islam!
Who is your Prophet : Prophet mohammed
Who is your Lord : Allah

Surely, Dantata knows the Answers to these three Questions!


On your first paragraph (before i collect another ban)

Sahih Muslim 2816f
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
None amongst you can get. into Paradise by virtue of his deeds alone. They said: Allah's Messenger, not even you? Thereupon he said: Not even I, but that Allah should wrap me in His Grace and Mercy.

Your response reveals a lack of understanding of Islamic doctrine and a tendency to misrepresent our beliefs while projecting your own frustrations. Let me clarify a few points logically and with textual precision:

First, you quote Sahih Muslim 2816f, as if it contradicts Islamic teachings about deeds — but you fail to grasp its full context. Islam never claims that deeds alone guarantee Paradise. Rather, Islam teaches a balanced view: deeds are essential, but entry into Paradise is ultimately through Allah’s mercy. That is exactly what the hadith you quoted affirms. The Prophet ﷺ emphasized that even his status doesn’t entitle him to Paradise without Allah’s mercy — not to diminish deeds, but to remind believers to remain humble and reliant on God’s grace.

Secondly, your sarcastic reference to Dantata and the "three questions" Muslims believe the deceased are asked in the grave — “Who is your Lord? What is your religion? Who is your prophet?” — is noted. But your tone implies mockery while ironically admitting that you’re aware of Islamic eschatology. Whether Dantata or anyone answers correctly depends on the truth of their faith and life — not hollow slogans, but sincere belief and righteous action. Islam doesn't glorify individuals uncritically; their legacy is only as honorable as their faith and deeds before Allah.

Furthermore, your comment about “speaking only what Muslims want to hear” is a shallow deflection. No one stopped you from engaging respectfully or intelligently. If your “truth” only survives when cloaked in provocation, sarcasm, or passive aggression, maybe it wasn’t truth to begin with — just provocation posing as boldness.

Lastly, understand this: Islam welcomes truth — not distortion, sarcasm, or selective quoting. If you're going to quote Islamic sources, learn them well, respect the interpretive framework, and engage with sincerity. Otherwise, you're not here to discuss — you're just here to bait.

The day one yoruba guys called saidi that sales tyre near my oga shop then told me that if you die in Saudi arabia your going to heaven I asked him the same saudi arabia Yoruba and Hausa women are carrying drugs to? He says Saudi Arabia is holy land I laugh in Tonga kwim Kwim ,even Saudi princes na Spain be their holy land

What relationship does he have with dangote pls?
Abi was he the one that gave dangote that 500k in the '80s to start that his provision store business?

penearth:
This man had been sooooooooo good and excellent during our child hood days. U walk they say u r walking like Alhaji dantata, u speak they say u speak like Alhaji dantata attributing all actions to riches. He is such a wonderful and finest philanthropist Nigeria ever got. Non rival like him to compare.
I love u Alhaji, ur good works will see u through wia u r going. Bless ur dying nation to resuscitate it's economy.
Adieu Alhaji

Aldebaran:
See levels

Born in Nigeria

Died in United Arab Emirates

Buried in Saudi Arabia

What “levels”?

Inferiority complex is what you call “levels”.

A rich African (in name only) man wants to be buried in Saudi Arabia.

His own country is not good enough to be buried in.

How many Arabs have ever said they want to be buried in Nigeria or Africa?

People with no shame.

For whom self hatred = “Levels”.

Hello Mr CreativeOrbit:
I told you that that my post would be deleted and it was!

Here is a final snippet !

May his gentle and kind soul rest in perfect peace. Ameen.

Only Yoruba understand this type of death, U go die outside mean, u no die for where ur clothes dey.

shadeyinka2:
Hello Mr CreativeOrbit:
I told you that that my post would be deleted and it was!

Here is a final snippet !

Chai, nawao Muchecheche Hehehehe, it means na h.ell fir..e 🔥, for all of them be that ooooo , Muchecheche hahaha 😂

shadeyinka2:
Hello Mr CreativeOrbit:
I told you that that my post would be deleted and it was!

Here is a final snippet !

This ḥadīth teaches us about the stages of human creation and the decree (qadar) of Allah. It shows that:

1. Stages of Creation: Human life passes through clear, divinely ordained stages in the womb — from a drop of fluid, to a clot, to a lump of flesh — demonstrating Allah’s precise and deliberate design.

2. Written Decree: An angel is commanded to write four matters for each person: their sustenance (rizq), lifespan (ajal), deeds (‘amal), and whether they will be blessed or wretched (destined for Paradise or Hell). This affirms the reality of divine predestination (qadar).

3. Human Action & Destiny: Despite what is written, a person must act righteously. A person may live in apparent righteousness or sin, but their final deeds determine their true end — showing that hearts can change and that none should feel secure from misguidance nor despair of Allah’s mercy.

4. Key Lesson: We must combine faith in Allah’s decree with striving for good deeds and sincere supplication for a good end (ḥusn al-khātimah). Destiny is Allah’s secret, so humility and dependence on Him are essential.

Core takeaway:
Life, provision, deeds, and ultimate fate are all in Allah’s control — but we are responsible for our choices, and our final actions matter most. So always ask Allah for steadfastness and a blessed end.

Mr CreativeOrbit

As usual, your people has deleted my post and placed me under ban. But here is your response again.

Nice writeup but it doesn't address the problems of the claims of your prophet. Let's look deeply into it again

According to Sahih Muslim 2662c
1. Is a baby guaranteed paradise because it has not committed sin?
2. Is it untrue that some babies while in their fathers loins were created for Hell Fire while others are created for paradise while they were still in their fathers loins (meaning before their conception)?

Mr CreativeOrbit

According to Sahih Muslim 2643a
1. Is it true that the destiny of Allah is WRITTEN for a baby forty days after conception?
2. Is it true that whatever that written destiny is MUST SURELY come to pass over the child after he was born?
3. Is it UNTRUE that the destination of the person in Paradise or Hell Fire is part of what is written from the Destiny of Allah for the person?

There were just two claims I made
1. Your prophet said that even a sinless baby born of Muslim parents cannot be guaranteed to enter paradise if he dies because the baby's fate had been determined while it is in his father's loins.
2. Your fate as a Muslim is already decided: don't you believe in the destiny of Allah?



If a baby's destination in Paradise or Hell is uncertain in Islam, your salvation as an adult is exponentially uncertain!

TenQ:
Mr CreativeOrbit

According to Sahih Muslim 2643a
1. Is it true that the destiny of Allah is WRITTEN for a baby forty days after conception?
2. Is it true that whatever that written destiny is MUST SURELY come to pass over the child after he was born?
3. Is it UNTRUE that the destination of the person in Paradise or Hell Fire is part of what is written from the Destiny of Allah for the person?

There were just two claims I made
1. Your prophet said that even a sinless baby born of Muslim parents cannot be guaranteed to enter paradise if he dies because the baby's fate had been determined while it is in his father's loins.
2. Your fate as a Muslim is already decided: don't you believe in the destiny of Allah?



If a baby's destination in Paradise or Hell is uncertain in Islam, your salvation as an adult is exponentially uncertain!

I’ve noticed a pattern of provocative comments from you. Could you clarify the intent behind your consistently inflammatory remarks? I’m interested in understanding whether there’s a constructive purpose to this approach or if you’re simply engaging in trolling behavior.

TenQ:
Mr CreativeOrbit

As usual, your people has deleted my post and placed me under ban. But here is your response again.

Nice writeup but it doesn't address the problems of the claims of your prophet. Let's look deeply into it again

According to Sahih Muslim 2662c
1. Is a baby guaranteed paradise because it has not committed sin?
2. Is it untrue that some babies while in their fathers loins were created for Hell Fire while others are created for paradise while they were still in their fathers loins (meaning before their conception)?

Your comments frequently appear designed to provoke rather than contribute to meaningful discussion. Would you care to explain your communication objectives?