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DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Anyone who can specify what is wrong with a machine can as well repair it.

Anyone who can design a machine can couple, disassemble and fix it.

So, civil engineers should not know how to mix mortar and operate cement mixers?

Don't be a Reno Omokiri.

That's where you got it wrong
An engineer is not a technician
A civil engineer is not a Mason
A civil engineer cannot as a result of his discipline know how to plaster a building but can supervise

You can as well tell me which country engineers repair cars

Arostar2023:
The problem of your country is not that you have too many professors. The problem is that you have few technicians and your education sector is underfunded. Professors don't build physical infrastructures , the design mostly. The two are different. There are no Chinese professors in Nigeria but technicians and laborers. Go and research how much it cost to fund researches. Who is going to fund those researches you are talking about.

The input of the professors should give birth to competently trained technicians, majorities of engineering professors here lack practical knowledge, you just don’t come to class dictate lecture note , Nigeria university should study German apprenticeship program for engineering courses

We are doing well in medicine because the students were made to learn on the job during their clinicals , but reverse is the case for engineering students, that’s my point

So what is the meaning of mechanic, if i should ask?

Omoawoke:
I don’t understand this road side illiterate point of view

Does Professor of engineering means he should be able to repair every mechanical device?

People should please update their brains, this is 2025.
Who even said engineers are those that fix broken machine parts?
There’s a reason a mechanic is different from a professor of mechanical engineering.

There’s a reason a software engineer is working in Microsoft while a computer repairer is in computer village…
A software engineer cannot repair a phone… they are not repairing phones and computers in Microsoft or Apple. They are doing highly skilled and professional jobs not technicians

fergie001:
I remember UI that year

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

asides petroleum engineering, do they offer other engineering courses? I doubt they do ooo.

That's the basic difference between university and polytechnic education. An electrical/mechanical engineer in a polytechnic setting would easily fix this problem.

FutureFocus:
The input of the professors should give birth to competently trained technicians, majorities of engineering professors here lack practical knowledge, you just don’t come to class dictate lecture note , Nigeria university should study German apprenticeship program for engineering courses

We are doing well in medicine because the students were made to learn on the job during their clinicals , but reverse is the case for engineering students, that’s my point

You have a point, but you are pointing in the wrong direction. Professors are not the problem, but the educational sector as a whole and the way it's structured. Professors and technicians are not same. Professors don't train technicians, not even in your beloved Germany.

Engineering education takes 5years for first degree, but it does not prepare one to work as a generator mechanic. But learning how to fix a generator is through apprenticeship or practical training which for an average individual can be proficient in a few months. It is stupid to judge a professor's knowledge in his ability to fix a generator. Even apprentices can only focus on a specific area. for instance, a diesel engine mechanic may not fix a petrol engine.

Please give us the difference between the technologist and engineers?

Safyqueen:
That's not the work of a university professor.
In technical field those designed to handle practical work are called technicians. Those below them to manufacturer the tools used by them are called craftsmen. Those above them are called technologist before the engineers at the top.
No need to further elucidate on these.

Zionmdde:
Only the ignorant cannot differentiate between an engineer and a technician
An engineer translates the theories into designs and models which are actualized by the technicians under the directions and supervision of the engineer

So a mechanical engineer has no business repairing a generator. Not in Nigeria, not even in Germany. He can only give an idea of what is wrong with the generator and not to repair it

Oga shut up

How can you give an idea of what can fix something without knowing how to actually fix that thing?

You and those professors and Nigerian politicians are the same thing. You know everything about making Nigeria work, but can't do anything practically.

kentokay71:
You are right my brother what is the essence of professors of engineering that cannot fixed a faulty generator

Mention any university in the whole world that has a course on how to troubleshoot And repair generators. Repair can be learned on the Field or via OEM certifications.

Love800:
So what is the meaning of mechanic, if i should ask?

A mechanic is one trained to handle tools for installation, repair and maintenance of particular equipment.

A diesel mechanic will be totally clueless when it comes to fixing an helicopter fault unless he's specially trained to do so. Repairs are not taught in universities. Prove me wrong by giving a link of any university in the whole world where how to repair generators or engines are taught.

Why are Nigerians so myopic, that the only thing we do in a discourse is to either side with the messenger or receiver without analyzing the message?.

True even hierarchy technician won't stoop low to repair generator so why expect a professor to do so?.

Now here are my own analysis.

Do you believe those professors have ever designed an engine before?.

Do you believe those professor's love there field and would further there research at slightest opportunity?

Since engines are there specialty, did they together with a group of project students dismantle the engine and find out what could be recurring problem?.

FutureFocus:
The input of the professors should give birth to competently trained technicians, majorities of engineering professors here lack practical knowledge, you just don’t come to class dictate lecture note , Nigeria university should study German apprenticeship program for engineering courses

We are doing well in medicine because the students were made to learn on the job during their clinicals , but reverse is the case for engineering students, that’s my point

The German apprentice program is same idea of technical vocational schools and polytechnics.
Universities are for design research and analysis.

TenQ:
It's not like that sir.
Completely different skill sets are needed for repairing Generators.

I design and build electronic circuits on PCB, and they could include both analogue and digital components.

However, one thing I am not good with is repairing damaged electronics because it takes experience with repairing to do such

The one who can repair usually cannot design and implement a given circuit

apt. Design is more complex and has to be done with advanced tools that are largely abstract in nature or output. Because of this complexity, engineering is always very vast and stretched. They also employ many hands to introduce more desirable features and thus compete in the market.
There is the issue of economy of scales. You probably wont stress yourself to design a tv or radio reciever pcb only to end up printing one copy. It will be unfeasible for the market.

Can you simply define each of those things you mentioned, for more clarity.
Thank you.

yusufmurry:
This ignorance by author.

He isn't a Professor to fix the generator.

There is:
An Engineer
A Technologist/Technician
An Artesian
A Craftsman

Each plays a different role in the profession

SeeWahala:
Even ekiti state with the highest amount of professors in the country (according to RoNu members) could not fix their diesel generator smirk 😏

Meanwhile rag-tag Igbos refined petrol and created ogbunigwe from scratch amidst a 3 year war zone

Give credit to whom it's due jor

Even with all their professors, there not manufacturing industries in their state except sachet water sealing companies.

This story brings to mind the common saying,

"Nigerian youths are lazy"

Should we now say

"Nigerian Professor's are lazy"

You want a whole prof to go and repair Gen. Oga there is division of Labour nah.

Love800:
Can you simply define each of those things you mentioned, for more clarity.
Thank you.

No mind the kurukere comment. Before you can call yourself a professor, you must understand the breakdown of every component and their functionality.

Nigeria can never work with the current structure of professors in the offices an not professors on the field...

Arostar2023:
You have a point, but you are pointing in the wrong direction. Professors are not the problem, but the educational sector as and the way it's structured. Professors and technicians are not same. Professors don't train technicians, not even in your beloved Germany.

Who do they train? They are considered custodians of knowledge, how do coming generation and the society benefit from them?
The US took out two professors for their practical contribution to nuclear energy development in Iran , because they know and are useful in their fields in the practical field

How many Nigerians engineering professors has published engineering books used in other universities abroad unlike their colleagues in the medical fields that are doing well.
This is because all they know is theory not practical, you can’t teach buy going to classroom to dictating notes alone , it’s not sufficient

There is a Medical Prof in one of our university in Nigeria that buy foreign books, read, correct mistakes in those books and send the books back to the writers in advance countries, and he returns they do acknowledge and thank him, we’ll recognized , he was honored in the US years ago, we don’t have such in our engineering faculties, still the point I’m trying to make you understand

Nukilia:
No mind the kurukere comment. Before you can call yourself a professor, you must understand the breakdown of every component and their functionality.

Nigeria can never work with the current structure of professors in the offices an not professors on the field...

Do you even understand what is called specialty?

Arostar2023:
You are obviously ignorant of how school works! I guess this is because in Nigeria certificate and degrees are everything.

Being a professor doesn't automatically make you a technician. The curriculum and requirements to be a technician is different from that of a professor (any engineering degree holder)

"And you know what, those who design stuff are much more desired (and rewarded) than those who fix broken things."



This life nor go ever balance, those who sweat less earn more.

hahahahahaha, Nigeria professors are only theoretical.

Because like i tell all people.. Nigeria education system is hinged on textbooks and handouts and notes.

With no practicality to word problems, even the smartest man becomes a dullard.

It is easy to find X on the board than find X on the map during aerial or sea navigation.

Siberia01:
Do you even understand what is called specialty?

While the crop of Professors we have grew up in a dysfunctional education system like what we have in Nigeria, i believe explaining the word "Specialty" to you would be a waste of time.

Give the Professor spanners, let him roll up his sleeves and fix the damn machine...

Long live Prof. Sani, Agric Engineering, OAU. No time to explain incompetence demonstrated by a lot if university Professors...

SeeWahala:
Even ekiti state with the highest amount of professors in the country (according to RoNu members) could not fix their diesel generator smirk 😏

Meanwhile rag-tag Igbos refined petrol and created ogbunigwe from scratch amidst a 3 year war zone

Give credit to whom it's due jor

So what have universities in SE been doing after the civil war ended or is there no university in the entire SE?

APOPTOSIS:
Who lied to you that Professors of Medicine and Surgery can't perform Surgeries ?
Who lied to you...?
Never never never bring Medicine into such discussions.
Haven't you been to Teaching Hospitals, Federal Medical centers and Private settings to witness Professors do surgeries?
Or you want sick first before you understand too

And what percentage of your so called professors in your institution do that? My friend, a greater proportion of them only do researches and hardly perform operations. That is the reality.

erniok:
So what have universities in SE been doing after the civil war ended or is there no university in the entire SE?

We should not make this matter a tribal affair. This is gross incompetence across the length and breadth of our country