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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:34am On Jul 04, 2025
OasisX:
grin

.....honestly you are right, it doesn't but it ain't shared cos it resonates with my online political personality as you said.

But......it gets a lot to do with those proving "SAINT". The same Structure of Criminality they condemned for months, its same Structure they are embracing and celebrating now.

I have never preached that APC is saint, nope! Politics is a game to me, so it needs to be played well to get the wins.

I strongly believe PBAT is getting it right, though the pains are still there for the masses but it won't last forever cos we are really closer to the light than before.

You may disagree with my political stance but wanting Nigeria to exit doom to glory remains my main target and I still believe PBAT can make it happen
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[color=royalblue]The bolded is actually the opposite of what Charly boy believes.

People are tired of the same old thing. People are tired APC. You supported Buhari, so did Tinubu. Today, Tinubu is telling us Nigeria was mismanaged and he inherited a bankrupted Nigeria from the same person he sold as the Savior for 8 years.

I agree with Deji Adeyanju for the first time in a while. You cannot say Nigeria is bad, and troll someone for trying to do anything.

When we talk about how rotten Nigeria is, you will support and contribute. When people try to change the scope by any means, you kick it down. Doesn't make any meaning to me.

I don't see any light in this coalition, but I won't tear down anybody's hope of believing in it. After all, Nigeria is a horrible place already [/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:37am On Jul 04, 2025
OasisX:
grin


The narrative that they have sold out to Nigerians is that the only way to defeat Tinubu or the APC is through a coalition, that is wrong. A clean political party fielding the right candidate can beat the APC hands down, even in the presence of a coalition.

- Yusuf Datti Baba-Ahmed
[color=royalblue]When Obi moved to LP with nothing, you laughed to scorn, and reminded us that he has no Senators, HOA, and no connections to the political powers to make it

Today, they have formed a coalition

Guess what? What you criticized now makes sense to you.

Is my Lord not wonderful?[/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 7:39am On Jul 04, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]The bolded is actually the opposite of what Charly boy believes.

People are tired of the same old thing. People are tired APC. You supported Buhari, so did Tinubu. Today, Tinubu is telling us Nigeria was mismanaged and he inherited a bankrupted Nigeria from the same person he sold as the Savior for 8 years.

I agree with Deji Adeyanju for the first time in a while. You cannot say Nigeria is bad, and troll someone for trying to do anything.

When we talk about how rotten Nigeria is, you will support and contribute. When people try to change the scope by any means, you kick it down. Doesn't make any meaning to me.

I don't see any light in this coalition, but I won't tear down anybody's hope of believing in it. After all, Nigeria is a horrible place already [/color]
grin

......you still don't get it?! I don't care of what 70yrs old man believes. Its pepper-mode activated. Using their own to pepper dem mode. LOL!

Make everyone off their saint cloaks and enter the ring. No more big evil and lesser evil ish.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:05am On Jul 04, 2025
The Owner of Èkó and his dogs- Tunde Odesola


Mr Sanwo-Ola is the administrator and chief tax collector of Èkó, the Atlantic City. As an ajélè, Sanwo-Ola oversees the Èkó territory on behalf of the true owner, the Elékò, Oba Akanbi Olódó Ààre. In a controversial poll, Ààre had snatched the kingship of Naija from three other bloodsuckers, namely Article, Kwankwa and Obih, subsequently relocating from Èkó to rule in the portal of power, Abuja, two years ago.

From being the godfather of some fiefdoms in Southern Naija, Ààre is now king over more than 35 federating fiefdoms of Naija, fulfilling a lifetime dream. Ààre is the Oracle of ‘Turn-By-Turn Nigeria PLC’ and the Godhead of ‘Baba-Sope Politics’.

On this lonely midnight, Sanwo-Ola cuts the figure of a troubled mind as he sat on the edge of the giant bed, his face in his palms, an empty brandy bottle on the bedside stool, eyes bloodshot. Beads of sweat break on his brows, despite the giant air conditioners in the room working full throttle.

Sanwo-Ola had just executed a coup, but the coup failed, and he knows the consequences of a failed coup. He knows Ààre is the god of vendetta. He also knows that the dog of king is the king of dogs.

The dog called Mudder. Though Mudder is one of the dogs of the king, Mudder is an irritating dog; untrainable and implacable – always barking without reason – spoilt, stupid, selfish and swindling. Mudder is also the Head, Èkó Assembly of Legislathieves.

Because he has the king’s backing, Mudder, one day, barked at Sanwo-Ola during a public presentation, tearing the Èkó Administrator’s garment – having been seized by the dìgbòlugi virus called rabies. In that show of shame, Mudder disrespected the land’s elders and equated himself with all former ajélè of Èkó, and even the Ààre himself.

Mudder ti f’enu ko! Everyone thought Mudder had talked himself into trouble by equating himself with Ààre, and would be muzzled for good. Initially, Ààre was annoyed with Mudder, refusing to see him when he went to Abuja to pay obeisance, even Ààre publicly reprimanding him during a festive period in Èkó. The news of Mudder falling out of favour set the Atlantic City’s grapevine afire; his days are numbered, many reasoned.

One day, Mudder foraged outside his kennel, far beyond the territorial borders of his owner, Ààre. A thought crept into Sanwo-Ola’s mind, “This is the best time to strike the senseless chihuahua.” So, Sanwo-Ola sought the backing of Èkó elders, a conclave of spent oldies, whose major duty is to run errands for Ààre and eat at his feet.

Subsequently, Sanwo-Ola got the support of Mudder’s colleagues, whom he (Mudder) had treated shabbily for so long. Altogether – Sanwo-Ola, elders, chamber members, etc.– carried the effigy of Mudder to Eti-Osa, the bank of the lagoon, and tossed it into the sea! That was symbolic. That was spiritual.

Mission accomplished, hugging and back-slapping, everyone departed from the seaside. Ààre will not rescue the mad dog; he’s now a goner, a loner, he’s going to sit among the pack and hunt with the hound now; he won’t be the top dog anymore. That was what everyone thought. But they were all wrong! Ààre is the double-edged sword with which Esu begs people for palm oil.

“Go and give Mudder, my dog, back his bone!” Ààre barked. “Ha, what will the masses say?” the elders counselled, “Èkó people are sophisticated, Ààre.” “I don’t care!” Ààre thundered, adding, “Sanwo-Ola should go and resign if Mudder cannot be reinstated.”

Confusion! Panic! The elders pleaded, “The bone is now in the possession of a homie, the people’s choice.” Puffing, pouting and panting, “I am the people! I am Èkó! I forge the destinies of the people in my bullion vans,” Ààre shouted, cursing and hissing. “Go and reinstate Mudder!”


Within the next 24 hours, Ààre fought with the ruthlessness of COVID, the àjàkalè àrùn that arrested the whole world in 2020, as he withdrew security details in Iru and Ikate-Elegushi kingdoms from two handpicked royal fathers related to the new head of the chamber.

Ààre Esu Laalu! Ààre is the beheader who never allows a sword near his head. By torpedoing Mudder without involving Ààre, Sanwo-Ola flouted the very first law of power, “Do not outshine the master,” as propounded by Robert Greene in his warfare book, “The 48 Laws of Power”. Ààre felt that if Sanwo-Ola got away with this coup, he would have mastered the art of subterfuge, thereby becoming dangerous and powerful. Ààre did not want an ajélè as powerful and as beloved as the left-handed B-Fash. “So, this Sanwo-Ola boy wants to beat me in my own game?” Ààre thought aloud, blowing smoke through his nostrils. “I will teach him a lesson!”

It’s Ààre’s enduring tactics that the administrator of Èkó and the head of Èkó chambers, in any tenure, must never be friends; they must be cat and mouse. When there’s no love lost between the ajélè and the chamber head, the ajélè will be afraid that Ààre can tell the chamber head to topple him anytime. Ààre knows this type of arrangement will make the chamber head see himself as a potential ajélè if he remains a loyal dog. That was the relationship tactically sustained between all Eko ajélè and chamber heads handpicked by Ààre. The Sanwo-Ola—Mudder war gives Ààre joy.

The outrageous reinstatement of Mudder exposed Ààre as a devil in paradise. A viper in an agbada. The whole world knows there is only one man who can reinstate Mudder. He is Ààre – the Emperor, the Conqueror, the Champion, the Lion…

For exposing him, Ààre turned against Sanwo-Ola viciously, intent on ridiculing him publicly and making life terrible for him. At a public function, Ààre refused to acknowledge Sanwo-Ola, sending disturbing signals within Atlantic City.

Sanwo-Ola ran from pillar to post, begging the young and old to help appease the Esu in Abuja to eat èbùré, the atonement sacrifice. Witches and wizards from all parts of the land flew to the portal of power to beg Alhameda to lift his jackboots off the neck of Sanwo-Ola
.

The blood pressure of Sanwo-Ola rose because fear had taken him hostage. Brandy and whiskey became his water. He knew the fates that befell those who fell out with Ààre: impeachment, prosecution and persecution. He cried and prayed. And God listens to prayers.

A few days later, a call came through. It was one of the elders. “Ààre has finally listened to us. He said you can celebrate your anniversary. But he said to show you’re really contrite at heart, you must not dance all those your ‘Gbe body e,” “Zanku,” “Shaku Shaku,” “Legwork,” styles o.” Sanwo-Ola: “Ha, thank you very much, sir. E se, sir. I will see you all, sir.”

Sanwo-Ola invited his colleagues from other lands to his big party. There was a particular colleague of his who came from a land popular for its healing river. Ha! That colleague no dey take ear hear music, e go jump up and start to twist.

At the party, Sanwo-Ola’s colleague with a skyscraping cap would dance vigorously towards Sanwo-Ola, but Sanwo-Ola would only sway to the left and the right like a faulty standing fan. “What is wrong with Sanwo-Ola today? He’s not vibing,” his dancer colleague thought.


Adewale Ayuba’s music blared, “File! Ma ba won ta tan dele o…” Sanwo-Ola swayed, his colleague rocked.

Days after the party, the Ajélè of Eko called his chief security officer.

Sanwo-Ola: Hello CSO! Arrange security, we must head out to Abuja immediately!

CSO: Today, YE?

Sanwo-Ola: I said immediately!

CSO: I’m sorry, YE; you told me a few minutes ago you’ve been placed on bed rest by your doctor, sir

Sanwo-Ola: If I miss the 2 o’clock flight, consider yourself redeployed.

CSO: Yes, YE!

In a couple of minutes, sirens blared and a fleet of the latest automobiles snaked out of the palatial residence en route to the airport.

Sanwo-Ola: Listen to me carefully, COS. Do not mess this up. This is why I asked you to lead the advance team to Abuja. Get those market women and men, students, artisans, thugs and schoolchildren to Ass-o-Rock gate and wait. I’m flying in with our elders, leaders and dignitaries. We shall be there shortly. Kill cows and cook various foods. Let drinks flow like a river.

COS: What are we celebrating, YE, sir?

Sanwo-Ola: We are coming to Abuja to thank Aare for wishing me well during my anniversary.

COS: Who are those coming with you, YE?

Sanwo-Ola: My wife, children and all the who’s who in Eko. It’s not easy for Ààre to send well wishes to mortals. On his mandate, I shall quench.
https://punchng.com/the-owner-of-eko-and-his-dogs/
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 8:14am On Jul 04, 2025
BlueRayDick:
https://punchng.com/the-owner-of-eko-and-his-dogs/
The perils of godfatherism cloaked as "mentorship".

Thanks for sharing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:30am On Jul 04, 2025
diggz:
So, you believe he can deliver on his promise to stabilise the country within two years and make it work within a single term in office? Is that correct, or do you have other reasons for choosing him?
No. This is just the fruits. The tree is that PO is a credible person which is rare as a typical Nigerian politician. He has a natural desire to see people prosper and live well. You will see a genuine intention in making people's lives better. He has empathy. He has integrity (how many former governors don't collect pension not to talk of irrational pension benefits).

So these are the areas he stands out. That's aside his competence as a successful business man, and one who really understands governance, the rule of law, and human development indices.

I believe he can stabilise the economy within two years. That's because we don't have an economic problem. What we have is corruption, wastage, misappropriation and mismanagement of resources. Our democratic institutions are dying.

I don't even want anyone including Peter Obi to do more than 4 years. But I want him to set the standards.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:31am On Jul 04, 2025
Just negodu!! So, na this kind of person wan save Nigeria? This man is only fighting for his own personal gain and agenda.


https://www.nairaland.com/8466619/atiku-abubakar-not-leader-tonyebarcanista

This is a pattern! Alhaji Atiku Abubakar has never stayed in a party past two election cycles.

He was a founding member of PDP and became Vice President of Nigeria in 1999. He won reelection in 2003, and that was it. He bolted after the second election cycle.

He joined Action Congress in 2006, clinched its presidential candidacy, but lost in the 2007 election. After that election cycle Atiku ditched AC and returned to PDP in 2010 after President Umaru Yaradua’s death. He spent just one election cycle in AC.

Back in PDP Atiku competed for the 2011 presidential ticket but fell to President Goodluck Jonathan. He grew distant in PDP and ultimately jumped to the newly formed APC merger in 2014. He spent only one election cycle in PDP.

In APC he entered the presidential primary but placed third behind first runner up Rabiu Kwankwaso and the eventual winner General Muhammadu Buhari. He abandoned APC in 2018 for a third spell in PDP. He spent just one election cycle in APC.

He secured PDPs presidential candidacy for the 2019 election but lost. He deserted the party yet returned in 2021. In 2022 he grabbed the partys ticket again for the 2023 election but lost to Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. Just like in 2007 Atiku has now forsaken PDP for his newest venture ADC. He spent only one election cycle in PDP.

Ironically each time he exits PDP he stirs factions and hypes his departure with media spectacles but always ends up on the losing side.

Should he lose the 2027 presidential election it would hardly shock anyone to see him abandon ADC.

Tonye Barcanista
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:47am On Jul 04, 2025
OasisX:
grin

.....honestly you are right, it doesn't but it ain't shared cos it resonates with my online political personality as you said.

But......it gets a lot to do with those proving "SAINT". The same Structure of Criminality they condemned for months, its same Structure they are embracing and celebrating now.

I have never preached that APC is saint, nope! Politics is a game to me, so it needs to be played well to get the wins.

I strongly believe PBAT is getting it right, though the pains are still there for the masses but it won't last forever cos we are really closer to the light than before.

You may disagree with my political stance but wanting Nigeria to exit doom to glory remains my main target and I still believe PBAT can make it happen.
The first bolded is the reality

The second bolded is at best a wish. The problem is that the person making the wish is in a feast.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:53am On Jul 04, 2025
airmark:
The fact remains that he left APGA.

What one can deduce is that he is not a man of his words and he only says what people want to hear and not what is practicable. That's why many may not trust his 'one term' proposal in ADC. He is deceptive.
Anything to tarnish PO. Hope your hard work will be rewarded
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:55am On Jul 04, 2025
Spy360:
No. This is just the fruits. The tree is that PO is a credible person which is rare as a typical Nigerian politician. He has a natural desire to see people prosper and live well. You will see a genuine intention in making people's lives better. He has empathy. He has integrity (how many former governors don't collect pension not to talk of irrational pension benefits).

So these are the areas he stands out. That's aside his competence as a successful business man, and one who really understands governance, the rule of law, and human development indices.

I believe he can stabilise the economy within two years. That's because we don't have an economic problem. What we have is corruption, wastage, misappropriation and mismanagement of resources. Our democratic institutions are dying.

I don't even want anyone including Peter Obi to do more than 4 years. But I want him to set the standards.
How do you think he’ll be able to manage all that when he couldn’t even handle the crisis in the Labour Party, let alone coordinate and sustain the momentum of the Obidient movement, which is his main base?

What exactly do you think he will do differently from others to fulfill his promise of stabilising the country in two years, when he hasn’t been able to do the same within his own party and movement?

Again I ask, are there any other reasons why you believe he’s the best candidate for the job, considering how he’s handled the Labour Party crisis so far?

I can see you’ve stated that we don’t have an economic problem. While I agree that issues like corruption, wastage, misappropriation, and mismanagement of resources are major concerns, would you say he addressed those issues properly within the Labour Party before jumping ship to the ADC?

Lastly, since you’re advocating for a single 4-year tenure for all candidates, including Obi, after he’s set the standard, what parameters do you think he’ll put in place to sustain that standard in a country like ours? Or are you saying you’d be satisfied with him merely setting the standard, even if it means we end up back at square one after he leaves office?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel(m): 8:57am On Jul 04, 2025
diggz:
Just negodu!! So, na this kind of person wan save Nigeria? This man is only fighting for his own personal gain and agenda.


https://www.nairaland.com/8466619/atiku-abubakar-not-leader-tonyebarcanista

This is a pattern! Alhaji Atiku Abubakar has never stayed in a party past two election cycles.

He was a founding member of PDP and became Vice President of Nigeria in 1999. He won reelection in 2003, and that was it. He bolted after the second election cycle.

He joined Action Congress in 2006, clinched its presidential candidacy, but lost in the 2007 election. After that election cycle Atiku ditched AC and returned to PDP in 2010 after President Umaru Yaradua’s death. He spent just one election cycle in AC.

Back in PDP Atiku competed for the 2011 presidential ticket but fell to President Goodluck Jonathan. He grew distant in PDP and ultimately jumped to the newly formed APC merger in 2014. He spent only one election cycle in PDP.

In APC he entered the presidential primary but placed third behind first runner up Rabiu Kwankwaso and the eventual winner General Muhammadu Buhari. He abandoned APC in 2018 for a third spell in PDP. He spent just one election cycle in APC.

He secured PDPs presidential candidacy for the 2019 election but lost. He deserted the party yet returned in 2021. In 2022 he grabbed the partys ticket again for the 2023 election but lost to Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. Just like in 2007 Atiku has now forsaken PDP for his newest venture ADC. He spent only one election cycle in PDP.

Ironically each time he exits PDP he stirs factions and hypes his departure with media spectacles but always ends up on the losing side.

Should he lose the 2027 presidential election it would hardly shock anyone to see him abandon ADC.

Tonye Barcanista
TonyeBarcanista is a disgrace. He has been bought by wike.
He wasn't like this back in the day.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 9:02am On Jul 04, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
TonyeBarcanista is a disgrace. He has been bought by wike.
He wasn't like this back in the day.
Just point out one lie from that post!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:05am On Jul 04, 2025
LordAdam16:
Tinubu is the frontrunner because one would expect him to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

However, that is a proper gladiatorial matchup.

It'll depend on the Northern plutocrats. If they are as pissed at Tinubu as the rumorville suggests, Tinubu is toast.
Atiku/Obi will snap or split the KKK, the SS, and the NC.

2027 is a vibe election.
You noticed how APC appeared to be coasting when it seemed like the coalition was a pipe dream.
There is pause now. Almost 2 years to go.
If by start of 2027, Atiku/Obi has the momentum, Tinubu will be in Bourdillon by 12 PM on election day.

Tinubu has the money and tactical nous to eke out a win regardless.
But it primarily is about the North. Is there really an urgency to return to the Rock?
If there isn't, then Kwankwaso in 2031 (if they can get the NE to accept another NW Presidency) will be a better phalanx of Northern interests than Atiku.

In a free and fair election, Atiku/Obi will prevail handily.
But 2027 will be neither free nor fair, so it's all about the chess moves in the background.

-Lord
Like I said before, only Buharis hands offish made the last election close

Even if Atiku and Obi combine this time, Tinubu will replicate the Wike doings of 2023 across several states and win
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 9:14am On Jul 04, 2025
Ibime:
Like I said before, only Buharis hands offish made the last election close

Even if Atiku and Obi combine this time, Tinubu will replicate the Wike doings of 2023 across several states and win
That is blatant Iwu-esque rigging.

In a fair election, Atiku/Obi will smoke Tinubu.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:15am On Jul 04, 2025
diggz:
How do you think he’ll be able to manage all that when he couldn’t even handle the crisis in the Labour Party, let alone coordinate and sustain the momentum of the Obidient movement, which is his main base?

What exactly do you think he will do differently from others to fulfill his promise of stabilising the country in two years, when he hasn’t been able to do the same within his own party and movement?

Again I ask, are there any other reasons why you believe he’s the best candidate for the job, considering how he’s handled the Labour Party crisis so far?

I can see you’ve stated that we don’t have an economic problem. While I agree that issues like corruption, wastage, misappropriation, and mismanagement of resources are major concerns, would you say he addressed those issues properly within the Labour Party before jumping ship to the ADC?

Lastly, since you’re advocating for a single 4-year tenure for all candidates, including Obi, after he’s set the standard, what parameters do you think he’ll put in place to sustain that standard in a country like ours? Or are you saying you’d be satisfied with him merely setting the standard, even if it means we end up back at square one after he leaves office?
All the questions you have asked to challenge Peter Obi's competence is based on the crisis in the Labour Party. This alone means there's no question to ask.

Peter Obi is not the chairman if the party. He is not even a member of the NEC. He is only regarded because he was the presidential candidate.

The fact that Peter Obi was willing to allow the judicial process take it's place, and to allow for the rule of law to take effect is enough to give him accolades. Here's someone that will not grab power for the sake of it. You must know that he is not your usual Nigerian politician that takes a position of a godfather or power grabber.

Suffice to say, that we should not be ignorant of the cause of the problem of LP. It's clearly the handiwork of the president. For example, how is it hard for INEC to interpret a court judgement and enforce it? So we cannot be pointing at the problems of the LP when we know clearly who is at fault.

By the way, the rascality of the president is not only seen in the LP but indeed all other opposition party including the so called coalition party.

The mere fact that we are discussing LP to judge Obi and not his time as governor means we don't have any thing to hold him down.

In terms of him settling the standard, what I mean is that he is for now the best option. So whatever he does becomes the benchmark for another leader. For example, Obi will reduce corruption to let's say 10% of whatever it is now. So the next person should not make it go above that. We have seen how Buhari blamed Jonathan until he realised he is the problem. We have also seen how Tinubu is blaming Buhari until he took will realise he is the problem.

We don't want someone that will come and start blaming Tinubu but rather provide solutions. And as I said, we don't really have an economic problem. Our problem is that of leadership. Someone that will not gratify himself but the people. This alone will stabilise everything.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 9:31am On Jul 04, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
TonyeBarcanista is a disgrace. He has been bought by wike.
He wasn't like this back in the day.
Lmaooooo but did he lie? Atiku is desperate for power and that is a big red flag. He will never become president tongue
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 9:34am On Jul 04, 2025
Ibime:
Like I said before, only Buharis hands offish made the last election close

Even if Atiku and Obi combine this time, Tinubu will replicate the Wike doings of 2023 across several states and win
Let Raumdeuter and OasisX come and deny this so Amadioha will visit them.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 10:00am On Jul 04, 2025
Spy360:
All the questions you have asked to challenge Peter Obi's competence is based on the crisis in the Labour Party. This alone means there's no question to ask.

Peter Obi is not the chairman if the party. He is not even a member of the NEC. He is only regarded because he was the presidential candidate.

The fact that Peter Obi was willing to allow the judicial process take it's place, and to allow for the rule of law to take effect is enough to give him accolades. Here's someone that will not grab power for the sake of it. You must know that he is not your usual Nigerian politician that takes a position of a godfather or power grabber.

Suffice to say, that we should not be ignorant of the cause of the problem of LP. It's clearly the handiwork of the president. For example, how is it hard for INEC to interpret a court judgement and enforce it? So we cannot be pointing at the problems of the LP when we know clearly who is at fault.

By the way, the rascality of the president is not only seen in the LP but indeed all other opposition party including the so called coalition party.

The mere fact that we are discussing LP to judge Obi and not his time as governor means we don't have any thing to hold him down.

In terms of him settling the standard, what I mean is that he is for now the best option. So whatever he does becomes the benchmark for another leader. For example, Obi will reduce corruption to let's say 10% of whatever it is now. So the next person should not make it go above that. We have seen how Buhari blamed Jonathan until he realised he is the problem. We have also seen how Tinubu is blaming Buhari until he took will realise he is the problem.

We don't want someone that will come and start blaming Tinubu but rather provide solutions. And as I said, we don't really have an economic problem. Our problem is that of leadership. Someone that will not gratify himself but the people. This alone will stabilise everything.
I think Kenneth Okonkwo would strongly disagree with you on Obi’s ability to lead and on the internal issues within the Labour Party. You should check out his interview on the matter. Even DonJ’s stance on his leadership skills suggests you are out of touch with who Peter Obi truly is or what he may be capable of achieving in a complex country like Nigeria.

If he could not resolve the challenges within a promising party he helped turn into a national force and has now jumped ship to the ADC, how exactly do you expect him to tackle corruption and entrenched saboteurs across the country? Bro, your take on this is giving pre Buhari messiah vibes.

Anyway, it is your right to vote for him if he eventually emerges as the flag bearer of the coalition. While I personally will not be voting for anyone from that coalition or the current incumbent, I genuinely hope Obi can unseat Tinubu if only so we can finally put an end to the myth that people like you keep pushing.

donjazze:
Indeed when it comes to qualities like integrity, accountability, transparency, virtues you wish for in a leader, Obi aces in these qualities which is why people were drawn to him but in the core aspect of leadership itself as a quality, he is found severely wanting.

I'm on the inside and I've witnessed the chaos firsthand. The lack of leadership and communication from the top. Everyone wondering what next with no answers. It's very pitiful
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 10:18am On Jul 04, 2025
diggz:
I think Kenneth Okonkwo would strongly disagree with you on Obi’s ability to lead and on the internal issues within the Labour Party. You should check out his interview on the matter. Even DonJ’s stance on his leadership skills suggests you are out of touch with who Peter Obi truly is or what he may be capable of achieving in a complex country like Nigeria.

If he could not resolve the challenges within a promising party he helped turn into a national force and has now jumped ship to the ADC, how exactly do you expect him to tackle corruption and entrenched saboteurs across the country? Bro, your take on this is giving pre Buhari messiah vibes.

Anyway, it is your right to vote for him if he eventually emerges as the flag bearer of the coalition. While I personally will not be voting for anyone from that coalition or the current incumbent, I genuinely hope Obi can unseat Tinubu if only so we can finally put an end to the myth that people like you keep pushing.
That's not true.

If you have ever met a business mogul, you will not associate that person with lack of leadership or charisma.

First of all, leadership is not like what we know in our politics. A Wike or Jagaban type. That's tyranny. An individual wielding so much power that he is now bigger than the group.

Secondly, I value anyone who obeys the rule of law. What you're asking from Peter Obi and how he handled Abure is like encouraging the way Tinubu solved the Rivers crisis. Is that what we want?

Power intoxicates so anyone who has conquered that is the true leader for me.

Leadership in the true sense is service not lordship. I'll prefer a Peter Obi kind than a dictator type as we have always known.

Anyone who knew Peter Obi back in his Anambra days knows that this man does not bend when it comes to doing the right thing.

We should be blaming our failed institutions like the Judiciary and INEC for the problems of LP and Obi.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:28am On Jul 04, 2025
Lmao.. While I sit on this toilet shitting and reading the reaction from Obidients and APC members (both the ones attempting to form fencist) on this news of coalition, it has made me happy that the first thing almost everybody has decided to do is try to paint Obi as some hypocrite who has gone back on his word.
Then you have another group who says he is no longer a saint because of association.
And then you have the other group that is convincing themselves that Obidients are hypocrites because we said Obi is a better person and a spotless politician than the rest and so him being in a coalition has suddenly removed that.


Make I first laugh all of una😂😂😂.

When we called Obi spotless and the very best, he was being backed by OBJ who we all agree is corrupt and wicked, why nobody challenge us that time.
When babachair was backing Obi, why nobody talk say e be hypocrite.

He went at it without a political structure and guys here laughed at him and said he won't do anything.
By election period, e clear for everybody eye say this man na bastard.

You people have been screaming that he has lost Obidients 😭😭😭.
You think Obidients are personalities that are known ni?
Why not patiently wait for 2027 election and test the theory once again. Let us see if he has lost or gained more people 😁?


Back to what I was saying, almost everybody believed he needed a stronger bigger alliance to unseat the present person in Aso Rock. The man has now gone into that stronger bigger alliance and you are crying.
Lmao.
Your tears never start ooo.
I give you 1 week tops to finish crying and screaming.

It will not change reality.
The man Obi is spotless.
He is better than anyone he associates with, be it LP party and those politicians in 2022/23 or these new ones in this Alliance.

We all know the alliance has you shook and it's expected.
Like I said the more you talk about him, the more you help us prove his relevance and I'm genuinely grateful that you hold him to such high esteems.
"oh I want to show you that he's not different from the others" lmaooo then actually show us now.
Show us the crimes he committed (repeat the same lies you told in 2022 and we will give the same replies), because if your strategy is to use association as a way of pointing out anything then I pity you, coz you go cry from now till 2027 when more politicians come out.


As for those asking how he can stabilize the country in 2 years, he will do it in 4yrs because buhari and tinubu has further shown us the absolute power a president wields in Nigeria when they want to get things done. Nobody can accuse the man of corruption because he has done nothing.

NEXT 2 years go tough for APC supporters.
From Nigeria trying to actively kill you to fighting Obidients, PDP and ex CPC people online.
E nor go easy.
I mean see how because of 1 announcement, una active anyhow.
I nor see these APC guys actively talk about the killings wey dey go on since except na Iran vs Israel.


Make I continue this shit🙏
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:30am On Jul 04, 2025
Lmao.. You call am saint and messiah still go turn around dey blame us say the man una call saint and messiah nor dey messiah again.

As if we send you msg😂.

You nor fit blame me say Obi dey spotless nau.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:35am On Jul 04, 2025
Remi Tinubu do rush go donate 1 billion give plateau because of coalition announcement.

Where she dey since when the killings dey go on?
If we ask her were she saw 1 billion now, Problem go dey.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:38am On Jul 04, 2025
diggz:
I think Kenneth Okonkwo would strongly disagree with you on Obi’s ability to lead and on the internal issues within the Labour Party. You should check out his interview on the matter. Even DonJ’s stance on his leadership skills suggests you are out of touch with who Peter Obi truly is or what he may be capable of achieving in a complex country like Nigeria.

If he could not resolve the challenges within a promising party he helped turn into a national force and has now jumped ship to the ADC, how exactly do you expect him to tackle corruption and entrenched saboteurs across the country? Bro, your take on this is giving pre Buhari messiah vibes.

Anyway, it is your right to vote for him if he eventually emerges as the flag bearer of the coalition. While I personally will not be voting for anyone from that coalition or the current incumbent, I genuinely hope Obi can unseat Tinubu if only so we can finally put an end to the myth that people like you keep pushing.
[color=royalblue]On this part, you are wrong

The court has already said Abure's Leadership has ended. What would you have him do? Start a media war, or carry Cutlass like Wike? grin

I would even accord him some respect for not scattering the party and declaring himself Lord.

If Wike was in LP, I am sure Abure would not even have the space he is having now to talk.

He has never insulted the leadership of the party. Even with the coalition, he did not berate LP at all.

If all these is poor leadership, well....Na only God go fit save us, then [/color]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 10:45am On Jul 04, 2025
Spy360:
Anything to tarnish PO. Hope your hard work will be rewarded
I am not tarnishing any image but exposing what you guys are hiding. I'm also not doing this to get rewarded unlike most of you, Obidients.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 10:58am On Jul 04, 2025
Spy360:
That's not true.

If you have ever met a business mogul, you will not associate that person with lack of leadership or charisma.

First of all, leadership is not like what we know in our politics. A Wike or Jagaban type. That's tyranny. An individual wielding so much power that he is now bigger than the group.

Secondly, I value anyone who obeys the rule of law. What you're asking from Peter Obi and how he handled Abure is like encouraging the way Tinubu solved the Rivers crisis. Is that what we want?

Power intoxicates so anyone who has conquered that is the true leader for me.

Leadership in the true sense is service not lordship. I'll prefer a Peter Obi kind than a dictator type as we have always known.

Anyone who knew Peter Obi back in his Anambra days knows that this man does not bend when it comes to doing the right thing.


We should be blaming our failed institutions like the Judiciary and INEC for the problems of LP and Obi.
One of the right things was to detain El Rufai for 48 hours when he came to campaign for his party in Anambra, right?.

Make una dey deceive people dey go.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:09am On Jul 04, 2025
Spy360:
Anything to tarnish PO. Hope your hard work will be rewarded
Lol, we all know he's labouring in vain cheesy cheesy cheesy

With the sort of veins that pop from his neck whenever he sees the name Obi, you'd think it was Obi that seized his money...maybe it's all in showing working so his money is finally released.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 11:19am On Jul 04, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]On this part, you are wrong

The court has already said Abure's Leadership has ended. What would you have him do? Start a media war, or carry Cutlass like Wike? grin

I would even accord him some respect for not scattering the party and declaring himself Lord.

If Wike was in LP, I am sure Abure would not even have the space he is having now to talk.

He has never insulted the leadership of the party. Even with the coalition, he did not berate LP at all.

If all these is poor leadership, well....Na only God go fit save us, then [/color]
It's ths thing that confuses me.
People want mad men all the time and claim he has leadership issues.

When you point to the fact he was governor in Anambra at a time when Ubah brothers had unlimited power from OBJ, that he fought them and won, people seem to disregard that.
The same brothers that disgraced Ngige.
Abi that doesn't count as political sagacity.
Wooh make I settle down from this relocation phase, we will get back to arguments here😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 11:21am On Jul 04, 2025
airmark:
One of the right things was to detain El Rufai for 48 hours when he came to campaign for his party in Anambra, right?.

Make una dey deceive people dey go.
And i ask, what are the rules and regulations for electoral movement? Was El Rufai a staff of INEC to be moving around during elections in a state that he's not voting?
😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:22am On Jul 04, 2025
Theflint1:
Lol, we all know he's labouring in vain cheesy cheesy cheesy

With the sort of veins that pop from his neck whenever he sees the name Obi, you'd think it was Obi that seized his money...maybe it's all in showing working so his money is finally released.
I wonder why they're not singing their national anthem during last election. That there's no polling unit on the social media. This agenda died a natural death in 2023 .
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