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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
shoodboi2:
You should extend this advice to yourself and your cohorts. Is there any point where you guys ever criticized the West? On this same thread, LordAdam has repeatedly called out the Iranian government for corruption and bothering themselves with irrelevant things like how women are dressed.

VI3ly repeatedly called out Assad for war crimes. Someone (don’t know if it was also him or LordAdam or someone else) also called Assad out for the poor way he handled the economy. Multiple people have also called out China for taking resources out of Africa, just like the west, without setting up processing plants here.


Meanwhile, have you guys ever called the West out on anything? Nope. If anything, you even try absolving them of every bad thing they have done. Multiple people on your side, including the yahaya that has refused to go to law school, has even tried absolving the west of horrible crimes like slavery. (These are things even the west themsleves do not dare to deny.)

You too are no better because you have firmly supported the same west without questions. You have repeatedly denied that Israel is committing a genocide or deliberately killing civilians in Gaza. And the one time you did, you referred to it as “necessary killings.”



Lol. Is it not the same western mass media that has refused to acknowledge what Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank? Is it not the same western media that drummed support for the 2003 US invasion of Iraq and the 2011 destruction of Libya?

Then, once the wars were over and the US got what it wanted, they turned around to say “Ow, the US was wrong.”

The US was wrong but Iraq and Libya have been destroyed. Their oil has been stolen and the lives of their citizens have been destroyed. Then the media washes their hands off that and goes on to drum support for the next war. Independence my foot.

And by the way, how do you define independence when it comes to the media? There are 1,500 television stations in the US. On the surface, that’s independence, but when we go deeper we see that 90% of all those tv stations are owned by just six companies: Viacom, News Corporation, Comcast, CBS, Time Warner, and Disney.

And who are the major investors in all of these six companies? It is the same company. Three that stand out are Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock. So, how is tv independent when it is owned by the same people?



Last time I checked, Trump hosted Abdel Fattah al‑Sisi, who launched a coup that forced out an “African democratic elected leader.” So why are you pained about Russia doing what the US is doing?

And Al-Sisi is just one out of many. I haven’t seen you say anything about the US’s repeated behavior of refusing to recognize democratically-elected presidents that they do not like.

The US recognizes Edmundo González, the loser of an election as president of Venezuela over Maduro, who actually won. The same US does not recognize Alexander Lukashenko as president of Belarus or Daniel Ortega as president of Nicaragua, even though both won an election.

We have seen something similar in Georgia too where the EU has refused to recognize Mikheil Kavelashvili as president (after he defeated their French mole in an election). You left all these to begin to try to make a point about Goita and Traore visiting Putin. That’s very laughable.



Is there any reason why the same people who support the killing of Palestinians by the thousands are suddenly fighting for the “freedom” of Uyghurs in China?

Is it not a surprise that people killing a Muslim-majority population somewhere in Asia have turned themselves into freedom fighters fighting for the rights of Muslims elsewhere in the same Asia?

We all know what is paining you guys about China. And we have seen the genocide going on in Gaza. So, why don’t you show us the genocide going on in Uyghur.



Is there freedom of press anywhere? Australia raided ABC Australia’s office after ABC revealed war crimes committed by Australian special forces in Afghanistan. In the same UK, they have been arrested for posts they made to social media.

And let’s not get started with Julian Assange, the Wikileaks guy, who the US has been hounding ever since he exposed their war crimes.

Then there is African Stream, a pan-African news network that kept revealing the history of slavery, colonialism, and neo-colonialism to Africans. The US discredited it, called it a front for Russia, and had their social media sites and email platforms deleted.

These are just a few of the many journalists the US has hounded for posting what they do not like. So, again, I should ask: How do you define independence when it comes to the media?



No Russian court in Ukraine convicted any Russian soldier of anything. It was a Ukrainian court that did so. Such is normal for propaganda purposes. Was it not the same Ukraine court that accused a Russian soldier of shooting a man riding a bicycle three or so times in the head while he was in a moving car?

Just imagine it: A person in a moving car shot a person in a moving bicycle three times in the head with a rifle? Does that even sound believable? Funny enough, the man’s wife was presented as the only witness in the case. That’s junk.

Plus I remember you and I went through something like this a month or two ago when I showed you two videos of Ukraine committing war crimes in the war. Then, I asked you to provide a single video showing Russian war crimes, and you couldn’t.



Yesterday, Russia bombed Kyiv with over 500 missiles and drones. There were zero civilian deaths and just 23 injuries. (Read that again.)

The total civilian casualty rate in Ukraine is less than 14 thousand (for a three-and-a-half year war). And that includes pro-Ukraine Ukrainians as well as pro-Russian Ukrainians living in Ukraine.

The same Ukraine you support has bombed beaches filled with civilian sunbathers in Crimea, and attacked bridges and bombed trains. Have you ever seen Russia do any of that?

In comparison, Israel has (officially) killed 50 thousand civilians in Gaza in one year and 9 months. I say "officially" because this is based on those who were taken to hospitals where their corpses are counted.

The figure does not include those who died under the rubble after they could not be rescued, and those who died elsewhere, drowned, died of hunger, or were buried by their families without being taken to the hospital for counting. By the time we add that, we should have around 200 thousand people dead.

The same Israel killed around 1000 Iranian civilians in just 12 days, while Iran killed 28. Just yesterday, one dude from your side even posted a video of Israel targeting a group of vehicles at a traffic intersection somewhere in Iran. Multiple Iranian civilians were clearly killed there. We can clearly see which side was deliberately targeting civilians. Or was the IRGC hiding under the road?

Back to Russia, I can confidently say that Russia has minimized civilian casualties in Ukraine, and has paid for it by losing more soldiers than it should have.

If you want to dispute that, I dare you at this point to mention one war (other than the Russian-Ukraine war) fought in the last 100 years where more soldiers died than civilians? Before you begin, let me help you out. You cannot find any because the Russian-Ukraine war is the only one.



Nope, Russia has never been implicated in any regime change. I assume you mean the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was not Russia. It was a group of nations, which includes the same Ukraine you’re supporting.

As for the US, regime change is their food. Trump even boasted about it some days back when he bragged about killing the Ayatollah.

If Iranians shout "Death to Trump" tomorrow, you all will begin holding onto and saying Iranians are this or that without addressing the fact that Trump and Israel actually tried to kill the Ayatollah.

Still on the US, it is their meddling in Ukraine’s internal affairs that got us here. Did they or did they not organize coups to remove Ukrainian leaders, first in 2004 and again in 2014?



Crimea is Russian. That is well-documented. An Ukrainian leader of the USSR handed it over to Ukraine. Russia said “Let everyone leave the same way they came” after the end of the Soviet Union but Ukraine refused to leave the way it came and took Russian lands with it.



He isn’t cooking. He is the one being cooked.
You think it by scribbling Long epistles enhh mate??, so the criticism is that LordAdam is calling out Iran over women dressing code, that's criticism to you?? Dress code?? Iran is killing and jailing protesters and your fallback is someone is been critical of dress code, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, So you think we pro west guys will be arguing with you guys if all you guys criticism of the west is just based simply on western dress code and corruption 😂😂😂,.

They are countless of articles of mass media of western origin who are very critical of Israeli operations in Gaza's, that is popular knowledge, How many Russian Mass media is critical of Putin war in Ukraine?? None right??

Crimea is traditionally a Russia island that's your excuse?? Texas was part of Mexico before becoming an independent republic and then joining the United States hope you know that right?? So Mexico can wake up morning and invade and take it back because it was once Mexico right?? Russia can invade alaska because it was once Russian territory or Nigeria should invade Camerron and take back the bakassi peninsula right?? Dose it make sense to you??

Russia is not killing civilians right? The 14k civilians that have died in Ukraine, how did they die, they were killed by the Ukrainian military right?? Who killed them??, 51k Palestinian is genocide but 14k Ukrainians is what now??collateral damage?? Russia is fighting a conventional military in Ukraine while the Jews are fighting a foe who camouflage with civilians, What do you expect mate??

Even a kid knows the media in the US didn't support the Iraqi invasion, When Russia invaded Ukraine, how many Russian Mass media protest against the move? When Russia invaded Georgia how many Russian Mass media protested. We can point to many instances of US mass media criticism of sitting US president and its polices, show us one major Russian Mass media or Chinese being critical of Xi or Putin

How many civilians died in the gulf war when the US aided Kuwait and the total combatants?? Help yourself mate, stop being emotional😂😂😂😂

When it comes to WW2 victories Russia won the war, when it comes to regime changes The Soviet Union is suddenly not Russia again.
😂😂😂😂😂

A Russian court sentenced its own soldiers fir war crimes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn012ed0z2ro.amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-soldiers-family-killing.html
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:54pm On Jul 04, 2025

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:16pm On Jul 04, 2025
Obedience40:
Calling him out!!! For not bombing Ukraine more, Calling him put for being soft on Ukraine, Calling him out for not aiding the Iranians, Calling him out for not using nukes in Ukraine, These are the Calling out your are talking about??.

Have your clan called Russia out for aiding a mass murderer in Assad??

Have they called Putin out for the invasion of Ukraine??

Have they called Putin out for the thousands of Ukrainian civilians who have died??

Have they called Putin oit for providing military and political support for military juntas who unilaterally and forcefully vacated democratic elected leaders??

Have they called Putin out for the suppression of the Russian people right to protest??

Have they called Putin out for forcefully taken a sovereign nation lands??

Have they called Putin for arming and supporting a seperatists agitation in the dombass region which is now a full blown war

Have they called Putin put for the atrocities committed by Russian forces in Ukraine??
Which of our friends here will provide answer ls to the following questions up here

One don run, let see who will take the bite

😂😂😂
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 6:17pm On Jul 04, 2025
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:22pm On Jul 04, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
RUSSIA SENTENCES...
Thank you mate
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:25pm On Jul 04, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡Kiev is shrouded in smoke, with residents of the Ukrainian capital witnessing a truly apocalyptic scene.

Preliminary reports indicate that the overnight missile and drone strike targeted the following locations in Kiev:

✔ Vasylkiv Airfield — hit by Iskander tactical ballistic missiles and Geran-2 kamikaze drones;

✔ Zhulyany Airport — a Patriot air defense system was destroyed on site;

✔ Railway infrastructure — Ukrainian Railways has confirmed damage;

✔ The attack involved over 100 UAVs, up to 7 Iskander-M ballistic missiles, 4 Iskander-K cruise missiles, and 2 Kinzhal hypersonic missiles.


And is Kyiv still standing or the goals of your smo has been achieved?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 6:26pm On Jul 04, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡🇷🇺 Russian Navy Project 20380 Steregushchiy-class corvette RFS Boykiy westbound in the English Channel escorting 2 Russian cargo vessels & 1 shadow fleet vessel - watched by HMS Tyne offshore patrol vessel.
Na so so way everybody dey monitor criminal grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 6:36pm On Jul 04, 2025
LordAdam16:
China v USA will not be a war.
It'll be a mauling.

The US will be unrecognizable after that war.

-Lord
I think China will lose more, in the sense that China is more developed than the US now, in terms of infrastructure, technology, industries etc. America is finished already, they have nothing to lose except their precious citizens.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 6:39pm On Jul 04, 2025
⚡Monstrous explosion at a Polish-owned facility near Zhytomyr, Ukraine.

New footage from yesterday’s explosion, which destroyed two facilities, has surfaced, but the causes remain unknown.

Interestingly, the police have prohibited disclosing the reasons and specifics of the explosions, according to Governor Bunechko.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriterrNg: 6:40pm On Jul 04, 2025
Alamkiir:
I think China will lose more, in the sense that China is more developed than the US now, in terms of infrastructure, technology, industries etc. America is finished already, they have nothing to lose except their precious citizens.
In terms of people too.

Anywhere US bombs drop, na massive casualties oh.

But one thing is certain, the US will never be able to rear it's ugly head again.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 6:46pm On Jul 04, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Gbamsolutely. Security is the most important priority. All these talks about Iran being a global threat will drastically wane once they conduct a test. We saw it with North Korea
Firstly, I think Iran should increase the range of their missiles to the level where it can reach the US mainland before testing the nuke. If not it won't stop the US from attacking iran
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
According to multiple sources, the total civilian casualties of the failed Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan is close to 3 million, The war lasted for 9 years, The war fought by the Soviet Union was an asymmetric war like the one being fought currently in Gaza, In 9 years about 3 million Afghans loss their lives that's about 300,000 deaths each year, any war were the the adversary is not a normal conventional army but an insurgency entity, it is very hard to keep civilian casualties at a bare minimum, Hamas don't have military bases, they don't put on uniforms, the battlefield isn't defind, they are no frontlines, no supply channels, no definite structured territory, no humanitarian corridors, no nothing

Yet our friends here are expecting that the casualties recorded should be ten civilians
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 7:16pm On Jul 04, 2025
23jerryking:
The way you so much believe in those people sha😂😂. Well you may have your reasons to.
The most intelligent person I have ever met is Chinese we normally plan chess and I have never for once beaten the guy. He always plan ahead and I think that's a Chinese thing.


Because throughout history except during Britain's opium poisoning of the Chinese masses.

The Chinese have always been visionaries always thinking ahead.


And as much as mao was a terrible person he too was a visionary and thought ahead of a present situation.


Same as china today. They will always wait for the perfect time to do a particular thing and the have a road map follow it to the fullest. Chinese mega cities are one of the best in the world their food is also good
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 7:17pm On Jul 04, 2025
Obedience40:
According to multiple sources, the total civilian casualties of the failed Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan is close to 3 million, The war lasted for 9 years, The war fought by the Soviet Union was an asymmetric war like the one being fought currently in Gaza, In 9 years about 3 million Afghans loss their lives that's about 300,000 deaths each year, any war were the the adversary is not a normal conventional army but an insurgency entity, it is very hard to keep civilian causalities at a bare minimum, Hamas don't have military bases, they don't put on uniforms, the battlefield isn't defind, they are no frontlines, no supply channels, no definite structured territory, no humanitarian corridors, no nothing

Yet our friends here are expecting that the causalities to be ten civilians
They will read this and still choose to be ignorant.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 7:23pm On Jul 04, 2025
WriterrNg:
In terms of people too.

Anywhere US bombs drop, na massive casualties oh.

But one thing is certain, the US will never be able to rear it's ugly head again.
Sure, I give it to them though strategically, they are still maintaining their global influence through military superiority (world's largest defense budget, 800+ bases), economic dominance (dollar as reserve currency, tech innovation), alliances like NATO, and soft power via culture and media.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Mikasaobi: 7:26pm On Jul 04, 2025
Alamkiir:
I think China will lose more, in the sense that China is more developed than the US now, in terms of infrastructure, technology, industries etc. America is finished already, they have nothing to lose except their precious citizens.
You’re right china has too much to lose. That’s why they’ll wait for the empire to collapse internally due to its debt crisis. Everyone knows the only solution to USA debt is default or massive budget cuts that’ll lead to a depression. It may happen soon or take a while but whenever the debt bubbles pop the empire is gone. Chinese a patient people they’ll wait it out.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DystopianMuse(f): 7:27pm On Jul 04, 2025
Obedience40:
You think it by scribbling Long epistles enhh mate??, so the criticism is that LordAdam is calling out Iran over women dressing code, that's criticism to you?? Dress code?? Iran is killing and jailing protesters and your fallback is someone is been critical of dress code, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, So you think we pro west guys will be arguing with you guys if all you guys criticism of the west is just based simply on western dress code and corruption 😂😂😂,.

They are countless of articles of mass media of western origin who are very critical of Israeli operations in Gaza's, that is popular knowledge, How many Russian Mass media is critical of Putin war in Ukraine?? None right??

Crimea is traditionally a Russia island that's your excuse?? Texas was part of Mexico before becoming an independent republic and then joining the United States hope you know that right?? So Mexico can wake up morning and invade and take it back because it was once Mexico right?? Russia can invade alaska because it was once Russian territory or Nigeria should invade Camerron and take back the bakassi peninsula right?? Dose it make sense to you??

Russia is not killing civilians right? The 14k civilians that have died in Ukraine, how did they die, they were killed by the Ukrainian military right?? Who killed them??, 51k Palestinian is genocide but 14k Ukrainians is what now??collateral damage?? Russia is fighting a conventional military in Ukraine while the Jews are fighting a foe who camouflage with civilians, What do you expect mate??

Even a kid knows the media in the US didn't support the Iraqi invasion, When Russia invaded Ukraine, how many Russian Mass media protest against the move? When Russia invaded Georgia how many Russian Mass media protested. We can point to many instances of US mass media criticism of sitting US president and its polices, show us one major Russian Mass media or Chinese being critical of Xi or Putin

How many civilians died in the gulf war when the US aided Kuwait and the total combatants?? Help yourself mate, stop being emotional😂😂😂😂

When it comes to WW2 victories Russia won the war, when it comes to regime changes The Soviet Union is suddenly not Russia again.
😂😂😂😂😂

A Russian court sentenced its own soldiers fir war crimes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn012ed0z2ro.amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-soldiers-family-killing.html
LORD ADAMU 8S NOW SEEING THE LIGTHT WOE....
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 7:29pm On Jul 04, 2025
Obedience40:
You think it by scribbling Long epistles enhh mate??, so the criticism is that LordAdam is calling out Iran over women dressing code, that's criticism to you?? Dress code?? Iran is killing and jailing protesters and your fallback is someone is been critical of dress code, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, So you think we pro west guys will be arguing with you guys if all you guys criticism of the west is just based simply on western dress code and corruption 😂😂😂,.

They are countless of articles of mass media of western origin who are very critical of Israeli operations in Gaza's, that is popular knowledge, How many Russian Mass media is critical of Putin war in Ukraine?? None right??

Crimea is traditionally a Russia island that's your excuse?? Texas was part of Mexico before becoming an independent republic and then joining the United States hope you know that right?? So Mexico can wake up morning and invade and take it back because it was once Mexico right?? Russia can invade alaska because it was once Russian territory or Nigeria should invade Camerron and take back the bakassi peninsula right?? Dose it make sense to you??

Russia is not killing civilians right? The 14k civilians that have died in Ukraine, how did they die, they were killed by the Ukrainian military right?? Who killed them??, 51k Palestinian is genocide but 14k Ukrainians is what now??collateral damage?? Russia is fighting a conventional military in Ukraine while the Jews are fighting a foe who camouflage with civilians, What do you expect mate??

Even a kid knows the media in the US didn't support the Iraqi invasion, When Russia invaded Ukraine, how many Russian Mass media protest against the move? When Russia invaded Georgia how many Russian Mass media protested. We can point to many instances of US mass media criticism of sitting US president and its polices, show us one major Russian Mass media or Chinese being critical of Xi or Putin

How many civilians died in the gulf war when the US aided Kuwait and the total combatants?? Help yourself mate, stop being emotional😂😂😂😂

When it comes to WW2 victories Russia won the war, when it comes to regime changes The Soviet Union is suddenly not Russia again.
😂😂😂😂😂

A Russian court sentenced its own soldiers fir war crimes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn012ed0z2ro.amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-soldiers-family-killing.html
Baba I think you missed the point
A few days ago Russia was condemned even by its most ardent follower here (Writerng ) for being an unreliable ally.
I have not seen you admit or condemn any foreign policies by the US.

Perhaps it's time you and Writerng registered as a foreign agent lol
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 7:33pm On Jul 04, 2025
usmanpogo:
Baba I think you missed the point
A few days ago Russia was condemned even by its most ardent follower here (Writerng ) for being an unreliable ally.
I have not seen you admit or condemn any foreign policies by the US.

Perhaps it's time you and Writerng registered as a foreign agent lol
Judging by the post, that is no condemnation.
Partially Resigning to reality cannot be said to be condemnation. The wotowoto was too much na.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 7:36pm On Jul 04, 2025
Lawag3:
The most intelligent person I have ever met is Chinese we normally plan chess and I have never for once beaten the guy. He always plan ahead and I think that's a Chinese thing.


Because throughout history except during Britain's opium poisoning of the Chinese masses.

The Chinese have always been visionaries always thinking ahead.


And as much as mao was a terrible person he too was a visionary and thought ahead of a present situation.


Same as china today. They will always wait for the perfect time to do a particular thing and the have a road map follow it to the fullest. Chinese mega cities are one of the best in the world their food is also good
Well, as brilliant as this post is, I will be unable to agree. grin grin
What happened to their "planning ahead" when Japan almost decimated them. I might have agreed with you if you said post 2nd world war.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40:
usmanpogo:
Baba I think you missed the point
A few days ago Russia was condemned even by its most ardent follower here (Writerng ) for being an unreliable ally.
I have not seen you admit or condemn any foreign policies by the US.

Perhaps it's time you and Writerng registered as a foreign agent lol
That's not criticism mate, I have criticized the US for not giving critical weapons to Ukraine on time, I have been critical of Biden slow response to Jewish needs during the war in Gaza.


The type of criticism we are talking about, is the type they leveled against the West, Genocide, Regime changes, freedoms suppression, Forcefully take over of territory's, invasions, etc

They are critical of Palestine deaths why not also extend that to Ukrainian civilians?? They condemned the Iraqi invasion, while applauding Russia invasion of Ukraine, They say Israel is bombing cities, while they hail Russia as she levels Ukrainian cities, They say US in enabling regime changes, while Russia is sponsoring coups in Africa, they call US military installations as occupation, while Russia is strategic partnerships

Those weren't criticism, They were simply pointing out Putin's inadequacies, Hope you get my point mate??

Foreign agent🫣
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 7:51pm On Jul 04, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Well, as brilliant as this post is, I will be unable to agree. grin grin
What happened to their "planning ahead" when Japan almost decimated them. I might have agreed with you if you said post 2nd world war.
If not for the military aid and the coming of the US into the Pacific theater of WW2,The Whole of China would be speaking Japanese today, China that the Japs were using their women as "comfort ladies" to satisfy the se×tual need of its troops

They have been saying they want to reunite Taiwan with mainland China either by diplomacy or by force, they have been saying that for donkey years, what stopping Xi from invading??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gerrard59(m): 8:01pm On Jul 04, 2025
LordAdam16:
I'll give you one statistic.
China's current shipbuilding capacity is 232 times greater than the US according to a US Navy report.

Let me repeat that.
232x. For the numbers guys, that is 23200% higher.

BYD just christened a factory city that is bigger than San Francisco.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amazing/comments/1kac2pd/byds_new_factory_in_zhengzhou_will_cover_50/

See this sh*t that the West is railing about

-Lord
The bad belle in the link above simply because of the size is staggering! They even suggested using nukes to level everything if need be. Jealousy no good o! It's beginning to look like witchcraft.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 8:14pm On Jul 04, 2025
Alamkiir:
Firstly, I think Iran should increase the range of their missiles to the level where it can reach the US mainland before testing the nuke. If not it won't stop the US from attacking iran
I think you're talking about ICBM, only a handful of countries have that capability.

I don't think Iran wants nukes, it appears they're indecisive though. The first thing any serious country that's in pursuit of nuclear weapons does is to withdraw from the NPT. As long as they are a signatory to the NPT, they MUST submit to IAEA inspections.

Before you bring up Israel, bear in mind Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and Israel maintains a very cautious ambiguity about possessing such weapons.

The question people aren't asking is Why are the Iranians enriching uranium close to weapon grade ?

I think most of us grew up watching too much Hollywood movies where people believe the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists, well all that is a lie.

The US is a country that responds to force, that's the only language they speak. When an organization or a country speaks the same language fluently with the US, then they'll be willing to negotiate.

This language is a leverage that can get an organization or a country a sit on the negotiation table. The Iranians spoke this language fluently recently, we all saw what side asked for a cease-fire, after initially aiming for regime change.

I believe the Iranians would agree to any deal that includes lifting of all economic sanctions and the agreement to civil use of nuclear technology. The Ayatollahs have banned the development of nuclear weapons since time immemorial. The only reason they could be enriching uranium is for leverage.

Another example of a country that understands this language is Pakistan. There are rumors that Pakistan is very much interested in developing ICBM. A means to hit the heart of mainland US, This news has spooked Washington. However, the Pakistan government is sort of broke and they are looking to secure some loan from IMF.
In other words, Pakistan's loan would be approved and they would jettison any idea of developing ICBMs.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 8:15pm On Jul 04, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Well, as brilliant as this post is, I will be unable to agree. grin grin
What happened to their "planning ahead" when Japan almost decimated them. I might have agreed with you if you said post 2nd world war.
Almost they later chased the japs out.


China was in the middle of a civil war when the japs attacked.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 8:25pm On Jul 04, 2025
Obedience40:
That's not criticism mate, I have criticized the US for not giving critical weapons to Ukraine on time, I have been critical of Biden slow response to Jewish needs during the war in Gaza.


The type of criticism we are talking about, is the type they leveled against the West, Genocide, Regime changes, freedoms suppression, Forcefully take over of territory's, invasions, etc

They are critical of Palestine deaths why not also extend that to Ukrainian civilians?? They condemned the Iraqi invasion, while applauding Russia invasion of Ukraine, They say Israel is bombing cities, while they hail Russia as she levels Ukrainian cities, They say US in enabling regime changes, while Russia is sponsoring coups in Africa, they call US military installations as occupation, while Russia is strategic partnerships

Those weren't criticism, They were simply pointing out Putin's inadequacies, Hope you get my point mate??

Foreign agent🫣
Are you saying the west didn't commit genocide, regime change or invasions ?
Technically you didn't criticize the US, you only pointed out their " inadequacies " in Ukraine.

Both the Russians or Soviets and the West are very much guilty of all of the above.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 8:31pm On Jul 04, 2025
Lawag3:
Almost they later chased the japs out.


China was in the middle of a civil war when the japs attacked.
Doesn't matter. They still had a temporary United front at the time
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 8:34pm On Jul 04, 2025
usmanpogo:
Are you saying the west didn't commit genocide, regime change or invasions ?
Technically you didn't criticize the US, you only pointed out their " inadequacies " in Ukraine.

Both the Russians or Soviets and the West are very much guilty of all of the above.
Genocide? The "West" is a big group of nations, of course they are certain elements of it which have committed genocide in the past, The nazi Germany, the fascist Italy are all guilty of genocide.

What we are saying here is that there should be an equal balance of criticism, you can't be critical of the US and the West over a particular thing, while the Russia, the China you are supporting is doing same or have done same.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:43pm On Jul 04, 2025
Alamkiir:
I think China will lose more, in the sense that China is more developed than the US now, in terms of infrastructure, technology, industries etc. America is finished already, they have nothing to lose except their precious citizens.
This is an involved thought process.
Don't have the time to lay every single component out, but will give some sort of synopsis.

The US relies on air and naval power.
No one is thinking of conventionally invading China. That is not an objective.

For air and naval power, they'll need bases and superior manufacturing.
China has them beat on manufacturing supremacy.
On bases, they'll have to be close to China.
Look up Pacific island chains. It's this concept in military strategy of a ring of island chains that the US has to control to have a pincer around China to be capable of hurting China.




As with the Gulf bases and Iran; the US so-called unsinkable carriers are Japan, South Korea, and to some degree Philippines.
Thailand, Malaysia, India, and a few others maybe may contribute to the war effort.
This is where it gets tricky because WW2 and the cold war is over.
As I told Writer, pull up Google Earth.

For every 1 million casualty in China, at least 3 million plus will be eliminated in those vassals.
South Korea will be taken off the board in days. Japan will be crippled. Think the status of the Low Countries during Hitler's march.
Philippines will sign an unconditional surrender. India will stay out hoping to pull a US where it will wait until both sides have wrecked themselves before aligning with the winner.

Then it's about China pumping out enough materiel to crowd out US assets in the South China sea and pushing the US to the second island chain. A reverse of what the US did to Japan during WW2. Casualties from US attacks will at worse plateau at this point and fatalities in mainland US will start rising rapidly. I don't see China pushing further into the Western Hemisphere unless the US collapses under its own weight.




But this is the point where all of China's innate brutality and manufacturing supremacy will have the most devastating effect.
Think about what's happening in Ukraine currently. China will send waves after waves, non-stop of incendiaries, until it achieves its war goals.
The US will seek to blunt the attack but China will keep at it and systematically degrade the US militarily because it will simply make more stuff that go kaboom.

That is why I said it'll be a mauling.
It'll be the Dragon just drowning continental US in unrelenting fire.
A malaise the US has never experienced.
The Western seaboard will be decimated. Panama canal destroyed. Population centers in eastern seaboard cities will become kill zones.
That is the definition of "unrecognizable".




Will China suffer huge casualties in a total war? Yes.
But at the point where it's lost 100m people, every Asian country that is a US vassal today would have either capitulated or be destroyed.
The US itself will bear the brunt during the war. No more destroying some other region, and decimating that region's population and industrial capacity while paying little price. Then it'll become how much punishment they can sustain until they sign a treaty that makes China the clear, undisputed Superpower.

This will be a war that dethrones the US.
The $ reserve status. The so-called rules-based order. All of that bunkum. China will put in a coffin.
China is preparing for the war. And part of the US starting fires all around is trying to rope in China into costly foreign debacles before it hits its own military milestones.
China knows the US will not go quietly into the night. A mostly peaceful collapse of the US will still have a shooting war component.

That's why the Chinese Foreign Minister told Kallas earlier this week that while it will not allow Russia to lose in Ukraine, it hasn't really provided military help to Russia. Because if it had, the war would have been over.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/china-tells-eu-it-cannot-afford-russian-loss-ukraine-war-sources-say
Russia, Iran, the Koreas, even Taiwan. All the provocations aim to get China to stumble. But Beijing is not biting. The export controls and restrictions are also to slow China's military modernization.

China is currently building a military command center in Beijing that is 10 times bigger than the Pentagon.
They're not doing that to seize Taiwan or because of Japan.
The CCP don set date for the US. When the time comes they'll either accept a diminished role or be made to.

A multipolar world is the diplomatic compromise. But China knows that after 2500 years at the top, old habits die hard.
So it is preparing for what it considers an inevitability.
A showdown with the US.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16:
Gerrard59:
The bad belle in the link above simply because of the size is staggering! They even suggested using nukes to level everything if need be. Jealousy no good o! It's beginning to look like witchcraft.
The first awarded comment is literally:
Imagine retooling that place for military purposes during a time of war.
They see it.
They know what's coming.
And they're powerless to stop it.

India admitted it lost 3 Rafale jets.
The PL-15E air to air missile armament of the J-10C is entirely made by robots.
Imagine what a missile factory city with robots working 24/7 can output in each day.
Uptime will be above 90% with no chance of the US matching it even if they want to copy because as Apple CEO Tim Cook said and I'm loosely paraphrasing: "You could fill multiple football fields with tooling engineers in China, while a meeting of such professionals in the US might not even fill a room."

China is on another level.

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 8:54pm On Jul 04, 2025
WritterNg:
Well I'm sure Russia already knows that.

Words may lie to you, but satellite images would not. They see the weapons pouring in through Poland and Romania.

Which is why Russia has made Ukraine war a part of their daily life.

They produce 20 missiles, they administer 2 to Ukraine as part of their daily dosage and they save the rest for the next day.

So no amount of "talks" will veer Russia off its path. I'm sure they've already made a calendar of the amount of missile strikes Ukraine would receive per day.
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