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WritterNg:
⚡Andrei Badalov, Vice President of "Transneft" a company for oil transportation, has died after falling from the window of his luxury apartment in central Moscow - Russian media

usmanpogo:
Are you saying the west didn't commit genocide, regime change or invasions ?
Technically you didn't criticize the US, you only pointed out their " inadequacies " in Ukraine.

Both the Russians or Soviets and the West are very much guilty of all of the above.

Alamkiir:
Firstly, I think Iran should increase the range of their missiles to the level where it can reach the US mainland before testing the nuke. If not it won't stop the US from attacking iran

Gbadebo19:
By "The West" I want to believe you are quite specific about the US, Britain and Israel.
I honestly don't consider the likes of the once fascist Italy or countries like Czech Republic, Hungary as west. I may be wrong though but I merely see those countries as merely aligning with the US. Culturally, I don't see western values in them.

Regime changes: Most of those regime changes were a tussle between the US and the Soviets. True or false?

Invasions: Is there any pro Westerner who sees reason with the Iraqi invasion? On Afghanistan: Was it justified or not? Am not talking about the one that sent the Soviet out but the consequence of 9/11.

Genocide: Only in four case did I find the US committing genocide. Out of those 4, 2 were mere being complicit ( Bangladesh and Indonesia), Gaza is regarded as an alleged complicity, which I don't regard as a genocide anyway. Only the expulsion of the chagossians satisfies the full UN definition of Genocide.

Several times, many pro western guys here have repeatedly repeated it that of course, the US and the West aren't saints, but our bright bulb brothers here dwell on the past. Their main grouse has always been about slavvveeeerrey, racism etc.

The US itself condemns itself. The abolition of slaveeeerrrrreeeeey led to the American civil war between the north and the south which threatened the unity of the country. If you read autobiographies of authors like Richard Wright, books written by Mencken, you would understand what am saying. And what about the Iraqi war. The condemnation of its own government by its own citizens is what has made even pro westerners to view the Iraqi war with disapproval. All of these things are enough condemnation without which pro westerners may just have followed US blindly like our pro Russian counterparts here.

And talking about Ukraine. Under no circumstance would you compare what US has done for Ukraine with what Russia has done for any of its allies. So, there is no condemnation to condemn. It ain't just an "inadequacy" as you posited.

LordAdam16:
The first awarded comment is literally:


They see it.
They know what's coming.
And they're powerless to stop it.

India admitted it lost 3 Rafale jets.
The PL-15E air to air missile armament of the J-10C is entirely made by robots.
Imagine what a missile factory city with robots working 24/7 can output in each day.
Uptime will be above 90% with no chance of the US matching it even if they want to copy because as Apple CEO Tim Cook said and I'm loosely paraphrasing: "You could fill multiple football fields with tooling engineers in China, while a meeting of such professionals in the US might not even fill a room."

China is on another level.

-Lord

FoolishBoy419:
Thank you very much @soqmeov for helping me out. I hope he will comprehend it now.



Thank you! I have never seen any of them criticize USA or Israel on this thread but what about us? We don't praise Iran's theocracy and we criticize them daily. We have placed Lord Putin on trial for treason. Our major concern is what happens at the international scene and right now, they're the lesser evil.

FoolishBoy419:
Unless maybe you mean they should secretly build one and not unveil it until they acquire nuclear warheads for the missile.

LordAdam16:
This is an involved thought process.
Don't have the time to lay every single component out, but will give some sort of synopsis.

The US relies on air and naval power.
No one is thinking of conventionally invading China. That is not an objective.

For air and naval power, they'll need bases and superior manufacturing.
China has them beat on manufacturing supremacy.
On bases, they'll have to be close to China.
Look up Pacific island chains. It's this concept in military strategy of a ring of island chains that the US has to control to have a pincer around China to be capable of hurting China.

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As with the Gulf bases and Iran; the US so-called unsinkable carriers are Japan, South Korea, and to some degree Philippines.
Thailand, Malaysia, India, and a few others maybe may contribute to the war effort.
This is where it gets tricky because WW2 and the cold war is over.
As I told Writer, pull up Google Earth.

For every 1 million casualty in China, at least 3 million plus will be eliminated in those vassals.
South Korea will be taken off the board in days. Japan will be crippled. Think the status of the Low Countries during Hitler's march.
Philippines will sign an unconditional surrender. India will stay out hoping to pull a US where it will wait until both sides have wrecked themselves before aligning with the winner.

Then it's about China pumping out enough materiel to crowd out US assets in the South China sea and pushing the US to the second island chain. A reverse of what the US did to Japan during WW2. Casualties from US attacks will at worse plateau at this point and fatalities in mainland US will start rising rapidly. I don't see China pushing further into the Western Hemisphere unless the US collapses under its own weight.

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But this is the point where all of China's innate brutality and manufacturing supremacy will have the most devastating effect.
Think about what's happening in Ukraine currently. China will send waves after waves, non-stop of incendiaries, until it achieves its war goals.
The US will seek to blunt the attack but China will keep at it and systematically degrade the US militarily because it will simply make more stuff that go kaboom.

That is why I said it'll be a mauling.
It'll be the Dragon just drowning continental US in unrelenting fire.
A malaise the US has never experienced.
The Western seaboard will be decimated. Panama canal destroyed. Population centers in eastern seaboard cities will become kill zones.
That is the definition of "unrecognizable".

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Will China suffer huge casualties in a total war? Yes.
But at the point where it's lost 100m people, every Asian country that is a US vassal today would have either capitulated or be destroyed.
The US itself will bear the brunt during the war. No more destroying some other region, and decimating that region's population and industrial capacity while paying little price. Then it'll become how much punishment they can sustain until they sign a treaty that makes China the clear, undisputed Superpower.

This will be a war that dethrones the US.
The $ reserve status. The so-called rules-based order. All of that bunkum. China will put in a coffin.
China is preparing for the war. And part of the US starting fires all around is trying to rope in China into costly foreign debacles before it hits its own military milestones.
China knows the US will not go quietly into the night. A mostly peaceful collapse of the US will still have a shooting war component.

That's why the Chinese Foreign Minister told Kallas earlier this week that while it will not allow Russia to lose in Ukraine, it hasn't really provided military help to Russia. Because if it had, the war would have been over.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3316875/china-tells-eu-it-cannot-afford-russian-loss-ukraine-war-sources-say
Russia, Iran, the Koreas, even Taiwan. All the provocations aim to get China to stumble. But Beijing is not biting. The export controls and restrictions are also to slow China's military modernization.

China is currently building a military command center in Beijing that is 10 times bigger than the Pentagon.
They're not doing that to seize Taiwan or because of Japan.
The CCP don set date for the US. When the time comes they'll either accept a diminished role or be made to.

A multipolar world is the diplomatic compromise. But China knows that after 2500 years at the top, old habits die hard.
So it is preparing for what it considers an inevitability.
A showdown with the US.

-Lord

Obedience40:
Genocide? The "West" is a big group of nations, of course they are certain elements of it which have committed genocide in the past, The nazi Germany, the fascist Italy are all guilty of genocide.

What we are saying here is that there should be an equal balance of criticism, you can't be critical of the US and the West over a particular thing, while the Russia, the China you are supporting is doing same or have done same.

FoolishBoy419:
It is scary to fathom how much more powerful they will get in the nearest future. Those dudes produce high quality stuff at dirt cheap prices compared to USA and they're churning out scientists like garri every year.

Gerrard59:
The bad belle in the link above simply because of the size is staggering! They even suggested using nukes to level everything if need be. Jealousy no good o! It's beginning to look like witchcraft.

Gbadebo19:
Doesn't matter. They still had a temporary United front at the time

Jovi10:
How about both queen of England? They have killed more people than Hitler would ever dream of.

Obedience40:
According to multiple sources, the total civilian casualties of the failed Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan is close to 3 million, The war lasted for 9 years, The war fought by the Soviet Union was an asymmetric war like the one being fought currently in Gaza, In 9 years about 3 million Afghans loss their lives that's about 300,000 deaths each year, any war were the the adversary is not a normal conventional army but an insurgency entity, it is very hard to keep civilian casualties at a bare minimum, Hamas don't have military bases, they don't put on uniforms, the battlefield isn't defind, they are no frontlines, no supply channels, no definite structured territory, no humanitarian corridors, no nothing

Yet our friends here are expecting that the casualties recorded should be ten civilians

Lawag3:
I think it does forming a I would say weak alliance to defeat Japan who were at the time the most dominant power in Asian this is why coming from a civil war I think it's very impressive.


The Japanese wanted to take advantage of the situation they were at first making progress until they were not.
In that united front mao controlled the communist troops while Chiang or was it Chieng controlled the nationalist army.


Mao employed guerilla tactics he allowed Chieng to figth the japs head on while he hit and run.


The result after they deafeted the Japanese Mao defeated the already weakened nationalist who were previously wining the civil war.

In the first war Japan won well china was in decline and Japan was on the rise. The japs also defeated Russia I think around this time.

basilico:
I don't believe 50000 have died in Gaza.
One, they only say women and children were killed.. IDF doesn't go into buildings shooting unarmed civilians. They respond to attacks of suspected terrorists shooting guns, bullets or rockets. IDF knows how many Hamas terrorists they have shot and killed. They estimate over 20000 active Hamas have been killed. By earlier estimates it was a 1:1 ratio ,high because Hamas fights as civilians,while using them.as human shields.
Anything from Hamas and media in Gaza is a wildly exaggerated lie.
Some time ago Hamas released names of the dead, when IDF checked cellphone data , many were still alive.
Where are the burials . The cemetries of those buried. If they had buried that many women and children we would see videos of the burials. They always show wounded people and gory images of bodies on TV ,they would not hide 50000 cemetries.

About numbers maybe someone can tell us about just wars. How many military combatants compared to civilians should die in a conflict.What rate is acceptable

hamzeiy:
They are crammers...no innovation.
Good in knowing what is known already.
Just like the Nigerian educational system..unlike Indians Nigerians are smart enough to break the prison if they want to.