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WritterNg:
But with Taiwan, Japan and South Korea on the US side, can China really win?

Many NATO also have great shipbuilding industries.

While in BRICS, only Russia and China.

WriterrNg:
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Gbadebo19:
Love the part saying "cooked before and will be cooked again."

WritterNg:
But with Taiwan, Japan and South Korea on the US side, can China really win?

Many NATO also have great shipbuilding industries.

While in BRICS, only Russia and China.

Obedience40:
Wars are being fought and won on nairaland by military "experts"

Russia before the war in Ukraine, was touted by many to have the 2nd best military apparatus after the US, 3 years down the line they are still struggling with Ukraine, China is now the new beautiful bride.


We have seen the hype before, first it was the Soviet Union, that age well, then Russia, now China, same way Hamas was hyped, then came hazebolla, then finally Iran itself.

They should take Taiwan first before we rate them, even XI won't risk invading Taiwan, a country whose economy depends on Western markets, China is not even at war,yet she limited the support she gave to Russia based on threats of Western sanctions, Imagine the effects on the Chinese economy should she undertake a belligerence stance on Taiwan.

China is so powerful, then test your might against Taiwan, Whats stopping the powerful China from attacking Taiwan, China is so powerful why not send weapons to Russia, is the US not supporting Ukraine, what's stopping China from supporting Russia??.

nedu666:
Ukraine has the backing of America and nato supplying it weapons, finance. Providing it with intelligence, satellite etc yet it has lost mauripol, bakhmut, chavis yar, adivirak, 70% of donbas, even lost the part of Russia it occupied for 7 months. Has declared 220k soldiers awol. It's kidnapping every man even imbeciles to send to the war front. Half of its population has fled the country. Russia is now breathing down their necks at sumy, kharkiv, dinpro.

LordAdam16:
The moment an American jet or ship fires a missile or bullet at mainland China, the continental US becomes fair game.
Before hypersonics and drones, it was a gargatuan undertaking to do so reliably and at a steady clip.
US SA, congestion, and just the sheer enormity of the task took it right to the top of the escalation ladder.

In a total war, it'll start happening within the week the war started.
China will make short work of US bases and assets in its immediate vicinity and start achieving its primary objective of eliminating US outpost/influence in the satellite states around it.
As such from Week 2, the US will start facing the prospects of a strategic defeat that'll deepen the longer the war progresses.

Losing South Korea is a significant defeat.
Losing Japan. Then Philippines. Then all of Asia either signing an armistice or adopting neutrality because of the demonstration of China's might in the US satellite states would catapult China to becoming the top dog in the Pacific. That's before the carnage in the US picks pace.

Guam and Hawaii will be appetizers and the Western seaboard will be attacked relentlessly.

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A total war with the US is the perfect set up for China because it can start notching small but iconic wins in short order in the Pacific theater.
It also means there's an extended, drawn out gulf between losing prized assets in the Pacific and tier 2 US cities becoming kill zones.
Within that gulf, the US can raise a white flag and stick to being a local champion.

It also means its European allies can for the very first time be the party throttling and adjusting what kind of support to give and what type of outcome they desire. They'll send tons of aid in the tens of thousands, while China will output materiel in the millions of tons.
The fear of Russia opening a front will be the salient excuse used by Europe to recalibrate the terms of its transatlantic relationship.
And they'll be the voice on the shoulder warning against a nuclear exchange, because they will be the worst hit in a nuclear exchange.

The prevailing thought in West Point is that the US is impregnable because of its landmass, oceanic buffer, and large armed population.
But it's not 1945 anymore. The Israelis lived like hermits during their short war but there were no airplanes and artillery buzzing.
Just intermittent streaks of lightning bolts.
The War with China will be a "Come to Jesus" moment for the US populace.

Hypersonics and drones are a game changer.
They could have been very helpful to the Hegemony in extending their dominance for another half a millennium.
But the capacity deficit is the Hegemony's knell.

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I will take the bet that Xi does not start a war in 2027.

China has multiple milestones.
Xi set a 2027 milestone for the military to have the capability to not just overwhelm Taiwan but be able to seize it.
That does not mean they seek to seize Taiwan by 2027.
No, far from it.

It means that's a milestone they can check off the board and continue onwards to other milestones.
Taiwan is in the first Island chain. Japan and South Korea are in the first island chain.
If you can seize Taiwan in peace time, the only nut left to crack is Japan. And no one wants to seize Japan. The plan there would be to eliminate it as a staging ground for the US and force it to sign an armistice.
It'll be equivalent to maneuvering around a large city to continue your onward march.
Guam can be seized. Hawaii you set on fire.

Do some reading about the Pacific Theater during World War II.
It is fascinating.

Japan got all the way to Central Pacific. Their defensive parameter extended from western Alaska to the Solomon Islands.
Japan neutralized Australia by taking out New Guinea.
The Japanese plan was to completely destroy the Pacific fleet and force the US to sign a treaty acknowledging Japanese control and preeminence in the Pacific/Asia.
The US turned the tides of the war because of capacity and Japan expending tons of resources on the China campaign.
This time, China has Russia in its corner and zero distractions. It will not try to conquer India for example in the middle of a war with the US.
It will not even bog itself down trying to deploy LHDs to take over Japan or Philippines or Thailand or Indonesia.
It will simply focus on the task at hand, taking the US to the cleaners.
In fact, Chinese goals in a pacific war with the US will be more modest than Imperial Japanese goals but with the capacity to achieve Imperial Japanese goals. China is not trying to integrate new Asian regions into its direct control as Japan sought to do and succeeded until the tides changed, it's singular objective is to bounce the US out of the Pacific and lock the gate.
Then maul continental US until it accepts the new paradigm.

So no, it's not about 2027.
The US is more likely to start sh*t by 2027 because a China that just keeps advancing into the late 2030s is a devilspawning monster.
By 2040, the question transforms from one of capability to one of ease and what new objectives China could start pursuing.
As such, some in the Pentagon might push to roll the dice this decade.
Which POTUS would be st*pid enough to do that is a different question.

-Lord

FoolishBoy419:
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Terrorists without a single gunshot fired.

German Chancellor Merz:

Russia is already attacking us today.

The infrastructure, we have attacks, arson attacks, what has also happened in barracks here in recent days.

The trails almost all lead to Russia. pic.twitter.com/2FlGt1M5iu

— Clash Report (@clashreport) July 5, 2025

LordAdam16:
Can you share links to this report?

All I can confirm is that Iran is negotiating for dozens of J-10Cs and a few AWACS platforms.

-Lord

seunny4lif:
If SK joined then immediately NK will join the war.
Look how Russia is outputting NATO on weapons production, now imagine China that is even more advanced in terms of AI and population size.
On like Ukraine that is surrounded by NATO countries, Taiwan don’t have that luxury, they are surrounded by water and the water is very close to main China.
A total blockade is enough.
China military weapons are state owned just like Russia which allow those nations to be able to produce military equipments and hardware are a very low cost.
Check Russia military hardware before the war and during the war in Ukraine.
WW2 showed that quantity is far better than quality.
AK47 is cheaper than any NATO guns.

Wait ooh, we don’t even have bunkers in Nigeria to protect us in case of war. Nothing at all

WriterrNg:
All these ones na long process.

Just start to dey hit US mainland from day one until they surrender.

Cut the head of the snake on the first strike. The rest part of the body useless without the head.

For that China will need Russia. Missiles launched from Russia have a shorter route to the US than from China.

The US have never fought a war where their airfields, factories and industries are being bombed constantly.

Imagine say all those their stockpiles get destroyed on day one. They'll have to start from scratch.

WriterrNg:
⚡German Chancellor Merz:

Russia is already attacking us today.

The infrastructure, we have attacks, arson attacks, what has also happened in barracks here in recent days.

The trails almost all lead to Russia.

German Chancellor Merz:

Russia is already attacking us today.

The infrastructure, we have attacks, arson attacks, what has also happened in barracks here in recent days.

The trails almost all lead to Russia. pic.twitter.com/2FlGt1M5iu

— Clash Report (@clashreport) July 5, 2025

bryght4u:
https://thedefenderngr.com/iran-receives-40-j-10c-fighter-jets-from-china-declares-skies-no-longer-vulnerable/

I value your deep insights on everything Iran and geopolitics in general.
Let me know the veracity of the report, please.
Curiously too, how does 60 jets guarantee any semblance of having control over its skies for Tehran, given that Americo-Israel possess different variations and generations of fighter jets and can field them in their thousands if needed?

chidekings:
do you believe all this bs you type all the time.

okeysoninv:
Pray for Portugal, heavy mourning 😭😭😭

seunny4lif:
If SK joined then immediately NK will join the war.
Look how Russia is outputting NATO on weapons production, now imagine China that is even more advanced in terms of AI and population size.
On like Ukraine that is surrounded by NATO countries, Taiwan don’t have that luxury, they are surrounded by water and the water is very close to main China.
A total blockade is enough.
China military weapons are state owned just like Russia which allow those nations to be able to produce military equipments and hardware are a very low cost.
Check Russia military hardware before the war and during the war in Ukraine.
WW2 showed that quantity is far better than quality.
AK47 is cheaper than any NATO guns.

Wait ooh, we don’t even have bunkers in Nigeria to protect us in case of war. Nothing at all

Hoaxen:
I'm very surprised that you're surprised.

That's the usual cycle that the thread's propagandists go through.

Phase 1: An "analysis" (if you could call it that) is made by one them ( e.g Adam).

Phase 2: They all cheer the "analysis" with phases like "spot on!", "brilliant!" etc

Phase 3: The prediction flops hard on the designated time of occurrence.

Phase 4: Amnesia sets in among the propagandists as they all move on while pretending that such a prediction was never made.

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Hoaxen:
I'm very surprised that you're surprised.

That's the usual cycle that the thread's propagandists go through.

Phase 1: An "analysis" (if you could call it that) is made by one them ( e.g Adam).

Phase 2: They all cheer the "analysis" with phases like "spot on!", "brilliant!" etc

Phase 3: The prediction flops hard on the designated time of occurrence.

Phase 4: Amnesia sets in among the propagandists as they all move on while pretending that such a prediction was never made.

And then the cycle repeats, over and over again.

It reminds me of George Orwell's 1984 novel where in the ministry of truth, today they'll print that they are at war with Eurasia and allied with Eastasia. Then in the next months they'll print that they'll say that they are at war with Eastasia and allied with Eurasia. And that they were never at war with whoever they were allied with at that moment.
And if anybody tries to point out this obvious inconsistency, they are made to disappear. And the inconsistency is vehemently denied.

If you go back and read their previous "analysis", you'll see the cycle. It's surreal!

The phenomenon is called double think.

Check their October 7, 2023 Israeli/Hamas "analysis".

shoodboi2:
Do you understand the difference between an analysis and a prediction, or you expect us to teach you here? You appear to use them as synonyms.

What you read are analysis and not predictions. Up your grammar knowledge.