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tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

Chief2410:
Nope,I have no business with religion...I'm only interested in truth.

Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

Dtruthspeaker:
Your question was "what Is The Fate Of Our Ancestors Who Did Not Hear The Word Of God?"

But you confirm that they know in saying

"no matter who they are or where they come from, that God judges them on what they do, not just on what they say or what group they belong to. So, if you know wha[b][/b]t's right but you don't do it, that's not good.".

That clearly means that they have heard and know the Word of God.

Chief2410:
You are one of the ancestors that you worry about...You are an incarnate of your ancestor.

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

tctrills:
Lol
I pointed out how disorganized your argument was.
It is not efficient.
Only a very low intelligence God will depend on reincarnation.
But then you refused to learn.
Clearly you are stuck in your ways and not open to learning as you say.
Reincarnation is a waste of time and experience. This method makes past experiences irrelevant.
If the reincarnated being has no attachment or remembrance of the things he learnt in past life, each past life becomes a waste.
Again, to save us from the stupidity of reincarnation, just make the truth available for everyone at their first trial of life.
Your entire system is a waste of time. Only a low intelligence being would choose that route.

Chief2410:
Reincarnation is not for our evolution. Of what use is reincarnation when I can't remember my past life memories?each life time we come blank,no past life lessons and wisdom to apply in the current life time.we end up repeating similar life times countless number of times.it is a trap preventing us from evolving.who ever designed this system does not have good intentions for us.

musicwriter:
Indeed, without religious indoctrination, your brain would work properly enough to answer that question yourself. The answer should tell you that you don't need Jesus. Unfortunately, those who wanted to control the masses invented Jesus to enslave you.

Be informed that your ancestors were saved. It's you that's not saved and will never be saved because Jesus is a FRAUD!

The Jesus described in the Bible never existed.

All the Christo-messiahs evolved qfrom the snake even before anybody heard of Jesus.

Read the book: what is Satan? What is Lucifer? The biggest secret in the world, and you'll see how all the Messiahs, saviors evolved. Read the PDF version only, that's where you'll find the details

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

DeepSight:
Excellent.

However your use of the term "cycle of samsara" is what drew my attention.

What makes you believe in that cycle.

Furthermore I find that many people belonging to esoteric sects say they have no business with religion but in truth they do have their esoteric sects, such as Eckankar, The Grail Movement, The Rosicrucian Order and others. Do you perchance belong to any such organisations?

Chief2410:
The reason I used the word is it saves me the stress of saying "endless cycle of birth,death and rebirth". I don't follow any of those sects. I think freely. Each of those groups you mentioned is part of the controlled system in place to keep us conditioned. At some point in my journey,I have come across different religions and sects and even believed their doctrines.Now,I walk a different path.

DeepSight:
Tctrills

I am surprised that with your usual closed mind on Christian issues you are capable of asking a sensible question. Kudos.

This question alone is sufficient to let the discerning know that the whole idea that one must know Jesus of Nazareth before being "saved" is bunkum.

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

tctrills:
Your opinion.

AntiChristian:
But surely he didn't preach to everyone he met after 30yrs! Even the criminal crucified with him he didn't preach to them! If he did preach to them the writers may have written about it. The ones he preached to and healed were written down as i said earlier in Matthew!

Despite having four Gospels written in different times each by different persons independently you still claim Jesus's works can not be written! Why reject many books if that is true?



Why didn't he preach the Gospel to them when he had the chance?

The rich ruler!
The canaanite woman!
The Criminals on the cross!

Your only hope is that Jesus told the disciples to preach the gospel to all the nations!
But your forgot the other verses below:
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go onto the road of the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.…Matthew 10:5-6

Jesus answered the canaanite woman, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
It is not bunkum.

Before the advent of Christ, civilisations had rules and taboos and regulations.
They will be judged according to how uprightly they lived in respect to their conscience and societal perceptions of Right and Wrong.

Romans 2:14-16
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

After Christ's death and resurrection, people will be judged based on their acceptance and confession of the faith and Lordship of Christ.

Acts 4:11, 13
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 17:29, 30
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent:


John 3:17, 18
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

musicwriter:
Yes, but the difference is that your opinion is FICTIONAL while mine is HISTORICAL.

You have no prove whatsoever that Jesus existed, except what you read in your fictional holy book.