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tctrills:
Lol
Oya nah educate us on the history. I am all ears.

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
It is not bunkum.

Before the advent of Christ, civilisations had rules and taboos and regulations.
They will be judged according to how uprightly they lived in respect to their conscience and societal perceptions of Right and Wrong.

Romans 2:14-16
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

After Christ's death and resurrection, people will be judged based on their acceptance and confession of the faith and Lordship of Christ.

Acts 4:11, 13
This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 17:29, 30
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent:


John 3:17, 18
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

musicwriter:
You're the one that said Jesus existed, so the onus is on you to prove it.

The origin and evolution of the concept of Christ is in the book I gave you earlier. Read it and you'll understand where and how the idea of Christ came from, right here in Africa for thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus

AntiChristian:
So na Gospel go save everybody?

How many people did Jesus not preached the Gospel to during his life time?

The Canaanite woman!
The blind man!
Even Lazarus and the "Thalita Lum" girl!
Lepers!
Demon possesor!
The lame man!
The woman that touched Jesus's garment!

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

tctrills:
For no fault of theirs, our ancestors did not hear about Christ or Christianity would they be punished for that or would they be given a second chance?

It is written
Timothy 2.3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Also
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

No one preached to our ancestors so is it the will of God that they also be saved and come to a knowledge of Him?

Tendd:
All the billions of Indians and Chinese are meant for eternal damnation.So interesting that folk will believe and assume anything.

abidem4real:
What I see here is religious illusion and bamboozlement which has enslaved humanity from the time immemorial

tctrills:
You seem to be uncomfortable when asked to explain your beliefs. I was the one that created this thread. I was the one that raised the question. You have an answer and I only want you to elaborate on your answer. Please educate us some more.

Tendd:
All the billions of Indians and Chinese are meant for eternal damnation.So interesting that folk will believe and assume anything.

AntiChristian:
But surely he didn't preach to everyone he met after 30yrs! Even the criminal crucified with him he didn't preach to them! If he did preach to them the writers may have written about it. The ones he preached to and healed were written down as i said earlier in Matthew!

DeepSight:
What is the summary.
Do we not conclude that knowing Jesus of Nazareth cannot be a strict requirement for "salvation."

Don't you think it's better to say that living according to the spiritual precepts he taught - regardless of whether one ever heard of the man - is what is key.

Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
It was not a strict requirement before his death and resurrection.

After his resurrection, it became a strict requirement.

John 20:31
But these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you might have life through his name.


Acts 8:36, 37

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what hinders me from being baptized?

And Philip said, If you believe with all your heart, you may. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.


Romans 10:8-10

But what says it? The word is near you, even in your mouth, and in your heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if you shalt confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.

For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

SeriouslySense:
Exaclty, for those who heard the gospel they should be more concerned about themselves.

Pearl1910:
Whatever happened to the people that lived before Jesus Christ came.
That is why reincarnation is strongly believed to be true. Because God will not be unjust to judge men for a law that never even existed or to use different scales to judge humans.

DeepSight:
Is God not the same yesterday, today and forever? Why then would be change the goal post?

Be specific: what happens to all the many people who lived -

1. Before Christ and never heard of him thus

2. After Christ but never heard of him.

StoryHaven:
In my own understanding, we that are saved by grace through Jesus will be judged according to the acceptance of Christ because we can not be saved by works. But they that were not existing during Christ's dispensation would be judged by works. (Though they had no grace, yet they were good to people, they lived with the consciousness of not wanting to do evil)

chimex38:
Romans 2:12.
They will perish apart from the law.
(I think it means they will be judged according to their deeds not believe)

DeepSight:
Refreshing.

Can you summarize your philosophy of life. Why we are here. What brought about this world. What is its purpose. Etc.