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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:06pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
It will never be corruption as long as na Obi do am

Investing govt money in your own private business is not corruption na stealing
This is another fallacy.

But even if it's true at least you are not arguing that Tinubu is corrupt, a drug lord, and a thief
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:19pm On Jul 07, 2025
It's funny that Tinubu's supporters are discussing corruption 😂

Whenever issues of corruption is being discussed, B.A.T's slowpokes should kneel down and face the wall
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 3:24pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
On the same grok link you posted, scroll down and see what Grk said

https://x.com/grok/status/1942159721030734298

Obis special adviser Oseloka posted it

On the 8yrs election he spent 8yrs as governor and conducted lG elections with 2months to the end of his term
From this ..I can deduce that it was either true wch is regarded as wasteful or false,judging from one man (who can have a motive) cos the same Grok had contradictory statement


Obi is general known for his frugality and non-wastefulness judging from his lifestyle..Also,his tenure as a gov refurbishing d gov house with d figures quoted b4 his involve house speaks volumes and in all honesty that was what drew me to him.


His land as well as pension’s rejection are almost too truthful to be ignore but non has counter that


I believe a 1yr pay would runs into billions and somehow a 9ja politician turned it down…so don’t blame Me if I chose him ahead of so many others ..


But how does a politician regarded as a thief/liar leave behind N36b and $150m in a bank for his successor instead of taking it and bribe his way out of it,be splashed with Pandora bruhahahuhhuhjust thinking
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:38pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
From this ..I can deduce that it was either true wch is regarded as wasteful or false,judging from one man (who can have a motive) cos the same Grok had contradictory statement

Obi is general known for his frugality and non-wastefulness judging from his lifestyle..Also,his tenure as a gov refurbishing d gov house with d figures quoted b4 his involve house speaks volumes and in all honesty that was what drew me to him.

His land as well as pension’s rejection are almost too truthful to be ignore but non has counter that

I believe a 1yr pay would runs into billions and somehow a 9ja politician turned it down…so don’t blame Me if I chose him ahead of so many others
Oseloka his Special adviser in his govt posted it, what could be his motive for posting it?
Grok is not always correct and when it found better information it corrected itself that Obi spent money buying 400 cars for traditional rulers

Obi lies compulsively even with things he doesn't need to That is why he claimed he met Abacha now he is denying ever saying that

he claimed he had only one wristwatch, One shoe

He who lies, will steal
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Jul 07, 2025
Spy360:
This is another fallacy.

But even if it's true at least you are not arguing that Tinubu is corrupt, a drug lord, and a thief
Tinubu does not need to lie or paint himself as a Saint unlike Obi who lies about everything
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 3:43pm On Jul 07, 2025
Spy360:
It's funny that Tinubu's supporters are discussing corruption 😂

Whenever issues of corruption is being discussed, B.A.T's slowpokes should kneel down and face the wall
Baba…..I don’t think anyone in his sane and objective mind would criticize OBI on corruption and maybe thieves.


Understandbly,he could be accuse of talking too much hence being not consistent with words wch to me isn’t an issue cos selling urself every now and then thru interviews (even the unnecessary ones) gives rooms for mistakes/non-consistency

E.g…i could say I met wit Tinubu instead of his representative…..yeah I might be right but in today’s politics …we expect too much from non important ish
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:46pm On Jul 07, 2025
Spy360:
Everything you have mentioned here, are false. But then even if they are exactly as you claim, it's not even corruption.

Keeping money in offshore accounts is not a crime nor illegal.

So you are not making sense of this corrupt agenda
Go and research the bold properly

Mr Obi is one of the individuals whose hidden business activities was thrown open by the project. Indeed, he has a number of secret business dealings and relationships that he has for years kept to his chest. These are businesses he clandestinely set up and operated overseas, including in notorious tax and secrecy havens in ways that breached Nigerian laws.

PREMIUM TIMES contacted Mr Obi with written questions and had an in-person interview with him weeks ahead of this publication.

The former governor admitted that he did not declare these companies and the funds and properties they hold in his asset declaration filings with the Code of Conduct Bureau, the Nigerian government agency that deals with the issues of corruption, conflict of interest, and abuse of office by public servants.

He said he was unaware that the law expected him to declare assets or companies he jointly owns with his family members or anyone else.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/487997-pandora-papers-inside-peter-obis-secret-businesses-and-how-he-broke-the-law.html?tztc=1
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:50pm On Jul 07, 2025
Obi the Saint should account for 8 years of LGA allocations

https://www.nairaland.com/1513192/revenue-received-governor-peter-obi
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 3:51pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Oseloka his Special adviser in his govt posted it, what could be his motive for posting it?
Grok is not always correct and when it found better information it corrected itself that Obi spent money buying 400 cars for traditional rulers

Obi lies compulsively even with things he doesn't need to That is why he claimed he met Abacha now he is denying ever saying that

he claimed he had only one wristwatch, One shoe

He who lies, will steal
I just talked about this not quite long.

He could meet Abacha’s representative and yes would right say he met with Abacha.

If meeting with Abacha or not is the major ish and not officially working under pay so what’s is the fuss all about??

I was meant to believe he worked with Abacha and stole as well,but his statement b4 and now stated one thing….He didnt officially worked with Abacha neither was he gainfully employed

The task was done within 2 weeks and everyone went their ways as against the tin can propaganda poured on him.



Him wearing one wrist watch his purely an unimportant exaggeration about frugality….it could be one in several years but how important is it huh?


If only I understand our politicians cases,u will agree with me that OBI is too different
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:51pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
Baba…..I don’t think anyone in his sane and objective mind would criticize OBI on corruption and maybe thieves.
Understandbly,he could be accuse of talking too much hence being not consistent with words wch to me isn’t an issue cos selling urself every now and then thru interviews (even the unnecessary ones) gives rooms for mistakes/non-consistency
E.g…i could say I met wit Tinubu instead of his representative…..yeah I might be right but in today’s politics …we expect too much from non important ish
Obi is actually very corrupt with evidence too only that he lies and plays the Saint

In his response, the former governor told Premium Times: “I don’t declare what is owned with others. If my family owns something I won’t declare it. I didn’t declare anything I jointly owed with anyone.”
In 2010, more than four years after Obi became governor, he reportedly set up his first discreet company in the British Virgin Island, and named the company Gabriella Investments Limited, after his daughter.


To set up what has now become a convoluted business structure, Obi, Premium Times reported first approached Acces International, a secrecy enabler in Monaco, France, to help him incorporate an offshore entity in one of the world’s most notorious tax havens noted for providing conduits for wealthy and privileged corrupt political elites to hide stolen cash.

According to the newspaper, Obi also paid Acces International to provide nominee directors for the company — these directors are residents of tax havens paid to sit on boards of companies to hide the identities of real owners of offshore firms.
https://www.thecable.ng/report-how-peter-obi-as-anambra-governor-failed-to-declare-assets-kept-in-tax-havens/
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 3:57pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Obi is actually very corrupt with evidence too only that he lies and plays the Saint
If the Gabriella investment was true as he/you claimed,what stopped d gov from probing and investigating it till now .


I believe as he is contesting for presidency now,he would be nailed with thorough investigation..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:00pm On Jul 07, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
It is not Obi's fault that you have lazy people who write laws for this country.
You are showing me what?
If you say the average amount to construct a road costs a certain amount.
Do you take into account bridges, roads constructed over erosion sites?

It's like coming to compare average cost of roads in a state like bayelsa state to delta state.

Do you want to get into civil engineering?

Also below is your CCB guidelines for asset declaration.
Again Ibime tell us why his opps didn't take advantage of his "goof" since you claim he "broke" the law

Please read the 11(b) to see how this law broken could have been used against Obi.
I mean Pandora papers came out since and yet nothing to stop the man.
Anybody talking about Obi breaking laws should refer to this on the Pandora.

You nor fit dey attempt re-warm soup wey we Don trowey sinceeee.

God bless
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:00pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
I just talked about this not quite long.

He could meet Abacha’s representative and yes would right say he met with Abacha.

If meeting with Abacha or not is the major ish and not officially working under pay so what’s is the fuss all about??

I was meant to believe he worked with Abacha and stole as well,but his statement b4 and now stated one thing….He didnt officially worked with Abacha neither was he gainfully employed

The task was done within 2 weeks and everyone went their ways as against the tin can propaganda poured on him.

Him wearing one wrist watch his purely an unimportant exaggeration about frugality….it could be one in several years but how important is it huh?
If only I understand our politicians cases,u will agree with me that OBI is too different
This your renovation work get K leg oh. So if you nack or slap Tinubus minister you can also say na Tinubu you nack/slap?

Ask yourself, why the compulsive need to lie about everything even petty things that can be verified? Can you or anyone here claim they have been using just 1 wristwatch in 10yrs? But Obi a billionaire wants us to believe that

Its the same way he will say he never stole money, he didnt know its a crime to not declare foreign accounts
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:02pm On Jul 07, 2025
CCB guidelines as at election period last year

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
If the Gabriella investment was true as he/you claimed,what stopped d gov from probing and investigating it till now .

I believe as he is contesting for presidency now,he would be nailed with thorough investigation..
Its the same thing that is stopping govt from probing and investigating every governor that has ruled since 1999

Did Igbinedion, Oshiomole, Obaseki etc that ruled Edo since 1999 steal money or were corrupt? Then what is stopping govt from probing and investigating them till now

You steal money, come dey lie on top again say you no steal. That even makes him worse than the thief who admits
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:04pm On Jul 07, 2025
Lmaooo... You people truly have nothing new to say, so you want to keep us busy by bringing up lies that have been checked.

Won't work.
Tinubu has further provided us with 2yrs of horrible things to discuss.

Only an idiot will say tax avoidance is a crime.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:07pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
This your renovation work get K leg oh. So if you nack or slap Tinubus minister you can also say na Tinubu you nack/slap?

Ask yourself, why the compulsive need to lie about everything even petty things that can be verified? Can you or anyone here claim they have been using just 1 wristwatch in 10yrs? But Obi a billionaire wants us to believe that

Its the same way he will say he never stole money, he didnt know its a crime to not declare foreign accounts
Renovating ke.


So if I was to meet with the president and I met with his representative carrying his messages.

It will be wrong to say I met with d presindency and his message was so so and sohuh

Do u now agree with d fact that he was employed nor being paid for the work donehuh

Like I said,Obi talks too much and when you do that,you are bound to make errors in trying to portray or carry urself…


I am trying to wrap my heads over the importance of one shoe or wristband vs corruption.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:09pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Its the same thing that is stopping govt from probing and investigating every governor that has ruled since 1999

Did Igbinedion, Oshiomole, Obaseki etc that ruled Edo since 1999 steal money or were corrupt? Then what is stopping govt from probing and investigating them till now

You steal money, come dey lie on top again say you no steal. That even makes him worse than the thief who admits
This is different as non are contesting or challenging the sitting president…..You just said something about Gabriella investment,this sounds like a specific case of money maneuvering n that could easily be caught up with
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:13pm On Jul 07, 2025
Ibime:
Obi the Saint should account for 8 years of LGA allocations

https://www.nairaland.com/1513192/revenue-received-governor-peter-obi
IGBOSON001:
It's always been clear to me that either Obi is incapable of managing the states finances, hence leading to leakages and pilfering here and there; or he's a monumental thief, presiding over the biggest looting spree Anambra has ever witnessed! Either way, it's not looking good for Anambrans!

After 8 freaking years as Governor, there are no world class structures, and no plethora of industries setting up shop in the state as should have been the case; no city in Anambra that one can look on with pride; no world class hospitals or university to boast of; there's nothing besides that beer factory and a couple of substandard local gov't level projects for a whole freaking 8 years of budgeting and planning! Yet, some mofos want the status-quo to continue? huh
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:13pm On Jul 07, 2025
Obi has started doing live events on twitter 😂😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:13pm On Jul 07, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo... You people truly have nothing new to say, so you want to keep us busy by bringing up lies that have been checked.

Won't work.
Tinubu has further provided us with 2yrs of horrible things to discuss.

Only an idiot will say tax avoidance is a crime.
I watch his Channels’ interview and I was glad he was asked that Tin can port question


I almost accepted the repeated lies of working with Abacha and stealing a large chunk until now.

I haven’t seen anyone here singin that song again as they knew the truth from the onset but chose propangada
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:13pm On Jul 07, 2025
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:15pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
This is different as non are contesting it challenging the sitting president…..You just said something about Gabriella investment,this sounds like a specific case of money maneuvering n that could easily be caught up with
Atiku is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Amaechi is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Saraki is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Kwankwanso is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:16pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
I watch his Channels’ interview and I was glad he was asked that Tin can port question


I almost accepted the repeated lies of working with Abacha and stealing a large chunk until now.

I haven’t seen anyone here singin that song again as they knew the truth from the onset but chose propangada
Lmaooo... All I will be doing is quoting my old posts for any old arguments here.

I expect the one about his employee having cash to come up soon... I go just search and quote.


But till today, why has tinubu refused to protect Nigerians?
Boys dey dodge the question.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:16pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
Atiku is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Amaechi is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Saraki is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time

Kwankwanso is contesting and challenging a sitting president he is not being probed nor investigated so that means he is not corrupt nor stole money in his time
U brought a case of Gabriela investment n this happen to be an easy case to trash
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 4:17pm On Jul 07, 2025
Oya oya..

Something light


Where is tinubu?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:18pm On Jul 07, 2025
Segedinho:
U brought a case of Gabriela investment Brian’s this happen to be an easy case to trash
You are asking why he wasn't prosecuted. Its the same reason others have not been prosecuted for corruption
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:19pm On Jul 07, 2025
liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo... All I will be doing is quoting my old posts for any old arguments here.

I expect the one about his employee having cash to come up soon... I go just search and quote.


But till today, why has tinubu refused to protect Nigerians?
Boys dey dodge the question.
But Obi lied he has one watch …not Piatek nor diamond

Obi said he never met with Abacha…not about stealing from his appointment in Abacha’s cabinet o
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:19pm On Jul 07, 2025
GloriousGbola:
this
The poster has gone back to renovate and blame it on his youthful ignorance as seen below

Which is why I just laugh when I see Obi renovation squad here, the same Obi where Anambra people on here were cussing everywhere

[quote author=IGBO--SON1 post=127339217]] And i say that with my full chest now knowing what my younger self didn't know about governance and all it entails a decade ago! I also am now in a position to better appreciate the peculiar challenges he met on ground as governor! Back then, i thought governance was all about the 'sexy' stuff: roads and other physical infrastructure, not knowing that improving a states HDI (which Obi excelled in) is even more important! Even at that, Governor Obi also engaged in projects delivery, saved and ensured a much more stable and peaceful environment for governance from what he met, and these where what his predecessorultimately benefitted from!

Peter Obi is a legend! Feel free to quote me on this one![/quote]
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:20pm On Jul 07, 2025
raumdeuter:
You are asking why he wasn't prosecuted. Its the same reason others have not been prosecuted for corruption
I said why haven’t he been investigated on that very Gabriela brouhaha.

Maybe I wasn’t too specific with same question huh?
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