₦airaland Forum

TemporaryHansel:
I see it now that you're not arguing in good faith, you're just looking for a false equivalence to excuse tribal bigotry.

You keep shouting “your state, your state,” as if Nigeria runs on tribal reciprocity. Let me explain this slowly for you: rights are not conditional. I don’t have to prove how Enugu or Sokoto treats non-indigenes before an ibibio man can contest freely in Lagos. That's not how citizenship works.

This is not a barter system “you allow me in your state, I allow you in mine.” This is a constitutional democracy. If you don’t understand the difference, then maybe it’s not politics you need, it’s civic education.

Now let me address your "point": you're obsessed with governors and senators, as if inclusion is only about the top 3 seats in a state. The real question is: has my state banned, bullied, or burned down ballot boxes because someone from another tribe ran for office? Has any traditional ruler in my state threatened anyone for not voting a “son of the soil”? Have we shouted “go back to your village” when a Yoruba or Hausa man opens a shop or gets appointed?

If you have zero examples of that, then don’t compare. Because Lagos, the so-called “centre of excellence” has had ALL of that. And you’re here defending it.

You're not asking for balance. You're asking for the right to oppress freely until someone else becomes your oppressor back.

And let me hit you with this last truth: Lagos isn’t "doing us a favor" by respecting the constitution. Lagos doesn’t “give rights”, the constitution guarantees them. If your idea of fairness is “others are tribal, so let Lagos be tribal too,” then you’re not fighting for justice, you’re fighting for equal opportunity to discriminate.

So here's your answer: I don’t need to show you a tribal scoreboard. I stand on principle, not paranoia. And if that's too hard for you to digest, maybe it’s time you stop talking about leadership because tribalists like you can’t lead a modern Nigeria. You’ll only drag it backward.

Show us this principle you stand on in your home state na

Abi you havent had Governors and Senators since 1999?

Show us example from your state let other states learn from you

Ellexy:
The post I quoted was a full sermon dedicated to Obi from your obsessed self. No one you mentioned got such an exclusive treatment. They were all mumbled together in a post, Obi got a special segment with screenshot attached

So don’t act surprised when people notice the one name that clearly lives in your head on a long term lease. If I have a detector, you sef clearly have an alarm system that is set to trigger the moment Obi’s name crosses your mind.

I need the tool you use to detect Obis name in posts, Its very useful

made over 30posts and you managed to single one where Obi was mentioned

You should be the leader of Obi defence force. ODF. or Mossad with the way you jumped out to defend any mention of his name

Raumdeuter is an unrepentant tribalist.

Batman vs Superman return but this time as

Owlman vs Ultraman.

Una dey kee me, una chop ban una enter alternate continue to argue

Raumdeuter is dangerous. This man can pull of a ethnic cleansing if he has the means like Hitler.

Fadedvoiced:
Rumdeuter is an unrepentant tribalist.

Have you repented from Hypocrisy?

Show us your state as an example of liberalism so others can learn

GloriousGbola:
interesting thinking

abiola is also in the picture - therefore abiola worked for abacha

classic obidient reasoning

Bola snitched on Abiola

BlueRayDick:
😂😂😂

Sperm wey go fertilize no go call u for phone tell u say e Don reach tip o

Baba say do not wait for it to be at the tip.I just dey laugh since.

See ehn, the sweetest point in doking na when all the magma dey gather and the volcano wan erupt. At that point, it takes extreme willpower to pull out because your mind go dey tell you one more thrust.

Make anyone wey feel say na because hin pull out game strong hin partner never carry belle go do sperm count and motility test. Hin fit dey shoot blanks and hin no know.

TemporaryHansel:
You see your problem? You confuse culture with governance, and monarchy with democracy. Yes, the Oba’s crown is by birth , nobody's dragging that. But Lagos State is not the Oba’s personal kingdom. It's part of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, not a royal estate for tribal sentiment.

You listed a few token appointees like Igbokwe as your defense, that’s cute. Igbokwe? The one they wheel out to insult his own people just to prove loyalty? You're mistaking symbolic decoration for true inclusion. Someone selected, not freely elected by a people embracing diversity. Don’t confuse crumbs with equality.

Now back to your obsession with "respecting your host." You think Nigerians from other tribes are foreigners in Lagos? That’s the root of your warped thinking. You call fellow citizens guests on their own soil. What next? Should a Benue man need a visa to enter Lekki?

You proudly say “I want what Americans want”, but here’s the twist: what Americans want is diversity, equal opportunity, and a system where even the son of an immigrant can become vice president. That’s what you benefit from while typing all this tribal gatekeeping from their country. You enjoy the fruits of inclusion abroad while planting seeds of exclusion at home.

You're asking me to “go to my village and invite Fulanis to rule.” See how you're wired? Leadership isn’t about ethnicity, it should be about competence and choice.

And let me be clear: nobody becomes “liberal” because it's not their land. What we become is principled. We want a nation where all Nigerians, not just the ones that speak your dialect, have equal rights. If you can’t process that, then it’s not me that’s doing choo choo, you have derailed completely.
Lagos belongs to all Nigerians. You can’t cherry-pick nationalism abroad and practice apartheid at home.

Sigh.. So you are smart like this and you have given yourself to supporting atiku.. Whyyy? 😁

joseph1832:
OH really. Didn't know.

Can you point me to the thread? I remember when there was a case against him, about paying money into a dead person's account or so.

I will look for the thread and paste here.

He scammed a poor lady, then format her to keep waiting for months. When 3 months later she came on nairaland to complain it was too late, he had absconded. Give me some minutes

Spy360:
Bola snitched on Abiola

joseph1832:
OH really. Didn't know.

Can you point me to the thread? I remember when there was a case against him, about paying money into a dead person's account or so.

This is where he was added to the scammer list

https://www.nairaland.com/5828664/currency-e-currency-market-deals-2020/1956#122625200


If you want to follow the issue from the beginning, start here:

https://www.nairaland.com/5828664/currency-e-currency-market-deals-2020/1924#122149768

Spy360:
Bola snitched on Abiola

Kola Abiola confirmed that Tinubu asked for a cabinet position in Abacha's government, in my book that counts as betrayal, some may think otherwise.

This PSG team nawa

Ellexy:
This PSG team nawa

They are on fire no be small Real madrid's defense too no try, so very porous.

Who will save Madrid from the hands of PSG today? They will destroy Madrid kpatakpata.

liveLongNprospa:
Sigh.. So you are smart like this and you have given yourself to supporting atiku.. Whyyy? 😁

Is this really necessary? Comments like this are exactly why some people step back from supporting Obi, the constant moral policing and condescension. Politics isn’t a cult. Let people breathe and choose who they align with.

TemporaryHansel:
Is this really necessary? Comments like this are exactly why some people step back from supporting Obi, the constant moral policing and condescension. Politics isn’t a cult. Let people breathe and choose who they align with.

Lmaoooo... Pele.. Nor vex.


But I'm not looking to convince you to support Obi in 2027.
But still I apologize 🙏

raumdeuter:
I am always for respecting your host anywhere you go. Immigration is a privilege given by the hosts and not a right

That is why I am against those who are protesting immigration laws in America and flying Mexican and other foreign flags while burning US flags

You wont see me dragging immigration with an American because I do not have any right to their land, the only place I have rights to is Oyo state the land of my ancestors not another man's land

What about running for public office there? What's your opinion on that? Do you think you'd consider running for any kind of public office there?

BlueRayDick:
Do u think Tinubu's failure to appoint ambassadors till date may be a factor responsible for this foreign policy somersault?

Yes. In this day and age, we need ambassadors to effectively advocate for our national interests abroad.

donjazzet:
What about running for public office there? What's your opinion on that? Do you think you'd consider running for any kind of public office there?

Lmaoooo... I just knew you'd fall out

Afromentalist:
This is where he was added to the scammer list

https://www.nairaland.com/5828664/currency-e-currency-market-deals-2020/1956#122625200


If you want to follow the issue from the beginning, start here:

https://www.nairaland.com/5828664/currency-e-currency-market-deals-2020/1924#122149768

Thanks. 👍

TemporaryHansel:
I see it now that you're not arguing in good faith, you're just looking for a false equivalence to excuse tribal bigotry.

You keep shouting “your state, your state,” as if Nigeria runs on tribal reciprocity. Let me explain this slowly for you: rights are not conditional. I don’t have to prove how Enugu or Sokoto treats non-indigenes before an ibibio man can contest freely in Lagos. That's not how citizenship works.

This is not a barter system “you allow me in your state, I allow you in mine.” This is a constitutional democracy. If you don’t understand the difference, then maybe it’s not politics you need, it’s civic education.

Now let me address your "point": you're obsessed with governors and senators, as if inclusion is only about the top 3 seats in a state. The real question is: has my state banned, bullied, or burned down ballot boxes because someone from another tribe ran for office? Has any traditional ruler in my state threatened anyone for not voting a “son of the soil”? Have we shouted “go back to your village” when a Yoruba or Hausa man opens a shop or gets appointed?

If you have zero examples of that, then don’t compare. Because Lagos, the so-called “centre of excellence” has had ALL of that. And you’re here defending it.

You're not asking for balance. You're asking for the right to oppress freely until someone else becomes your oppressor back.

And let me hit you with this last truth: Lagos isn’t "doing us a favor" by respecting the constitution. Lagos doesn’t “give rights”, the constitution guarantees them. If your idea of fairness is “others are tribal, so let Lagos be tribal too,” then you’re not fighting for justice, you’re fighting for equal opportunity to discriminate.

So here's your answer: I don’t need to show you a tribal scoreboard. I stand on principle, not paranoia. And if that's too hard for you to digest, maybe it’s time you stop talking about leadership because tribalists like you can’t lead a modern Nigeria. You’ll only drag it backward.

Surprisingly only you keep using “tribàl” and name dropping ethnicitieś. This your supposed opps only talks about “states”. He even used Yayi of Ogun state as one of his examples of non-Lagos indigené proving he ain’t seeing things in Tribàl-ethnicitý color.

Look within, bro.

Fadedvoiced:
Raumdeuter is an unrepentant tribalist.

Performative non-tribalíst, well done.

Macktaob:
Surprisingly only you keep using “tribàl” and name dropping ethnicitieś. This your supposed opps only talks about “states”. He even used Yayi of Ogun state as one of his examples of non-Lagos indigené proving he ain’t seeing things in Tribàl-ethnicitý color.

Look within, bro.

LMAO. You think hiding behind “states” makes it less tribal? Yayi is from Ogun, same region, same language, same cultural bloc. That’s not inclusion, it’s in-house selection.

Let’s not play dumb. We all know that when the name changes from Ade to Ifeanyi, the energy shifts.
If it was Ifeanyi from Enugu or Musa from Kano trying to contest in Lagos, you wouldn’t be quoting federal character, you’d be crying “go back to your state.”

Call it “state” all you want ,the tribal bias is loud.
So no, I’m not the one seeing things in tribal colours. You’re just trying to rebrand tribalism as “structure.”

TemporaryHansel:
LMAO. You think hiding behind “states” makes it less tribal? Yayi is from Ogun, same region, same language, same cultural bloc. That’s not inclusion, it’s in-house selection.

Let’s not play dumb. We all know that when the name changes from Ade to Ifeanyi, the energy shifts.
If it was Ifeanyi from Enugu or Musa from Kano trying to contest in Lagos, you wouldn’t be quoting federal character, you’d be crying “go back to your state.”

Call it “state” all you want ,the tribal bias is loud.
So no, I’m not the one seeing things in tribal colours. You’re just trying to rebrand tribalism as “structure.”

Your use of examples really helped drive the point home.

semid4lyfe:
Baba say do not wait for it to be at the tip.I just dey laugh since.

See ehn, the sweetest point in doking na when all the magma dey gather and the volcano wan erupt. At that point, it takes extreme willpower to pull out because your mind go dey tell you one more thrust.

Make anyone wey feel say na because hin pull out game strong hin partner never carry belle go do sperm count and motility test. Hin fit dey shoot blanks and hin no know.

I have to ask, were you the mod who kept banning my accounts abi na mukiina? E get one mod wey been no gree me dey post here as such