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FreeIgboho:
If I said only God has discernment, you'd be a total fool to not know that discernment is not "discernment" as used here. (I'm not saying you and LordReed are TOTAL FOOLS indeed!!!)

Highlighted is your own word not Jesus' words so no one will drag that with you!

But outrightly contradicting Jesus is your problem now!

FreeIgboho:
If I said only God has discernment, you'd be a total fool to not know that discernment is not "discernment" as used here. (I'm not saying you and LordReed are TOTAL FOOLS indeed!!!)

The word "God" does not refer to God.

Maximus692:
God hates Esau because he will not be loyal to the spiritual heritage of the family.

I was the chosen one out of six children because my own father was a politician so whenever a child is born their group used to call a sorcerer who will look into the child's future to know if the child will be loyal and as a child i was chosen to continue with my father's political career. I'm telling you this to know what is happening in the world of politics.

Though i grew up to be what the sorcerer saw about baby Max but when i grew older i chose to be loyal to the true God and not Satan the god of politics, this made my father cry bitterly because he felt his journey as a politician has ended because the child chosen by their Oracle refused to be a politician rather he is loyally preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom!

So i know exactly what you are trying to say but it's not what you think even Satan knows what a child will become when he grows up as both God and Satan are interested in anyone who will be 100% loyal to them. It's the loyalty aspect that God knows perfectly but as for to whom the child will be loyal depends on the child that's where FREEWILL plays it's role!

@bolded, you just admitted you don't have free will, then tried to talk yourself out of it!😅

As for Esau, when/how was it determined he'd not be loyal to the spiritual heritage? Not from anything he did in this life!

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is your own word not Jesus' words so no one will drag that with you!

But outrightly contradicting Jesus is your problem now!

What do u mean? It's just to illustrate that a word does not mean same in every circumstance

DeepSight:
The word "God" does not refer to God.

Exactly! Now you're thinking a little bit. The word "God" does not always refer to God. A word does not mean same in every circumstance!

MaxInDHouse:
“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God." Luke 18:19

So Jesus lied shey?

Hence I asked you, is Jesus good? You never answered. Jesus is obviously good. The "good" here is an attribute thst only the Father has

DeepSight:
1. Genetics. 2. Circumstances. 3. Causal chains. 4. Capacity.

Thank you!

Dtruthspeaker:
Stop changing the argument the real eyeity is clearly what we have seen and experienced, which I have already described and you have no answer.

HOW can you prove you are not lying somewhere with wires attached to your head and feeding you all these experiences you think are real? In other words, how are you sure all reality is not happening only in your head?!

FreeIgboho:
Exactly! Now you're thinking a little bit. The word "God" does not always refer to God. A word does not mean same in every circumstance!

The word circumstance does not mean circumstance.

FreeIgboho:
@bolded, you just admitted you don't have free will, then tried to talk yourself out of it!😅

Loyalty has nothing to do with freewill it's just the nature of some humans to be loyal but where freewill comes in is whether such a person will be loyal to God or Evil for me i chose to be loyal to God!

FreeIgboho:
As for Esau, when/how was it determined he'd not be loyal to the spiritual heritage? Not from anything he did in this life!

Esau was seen from his mother's womb to be a disloyal child that's why God said He hates him but love Jacob and their life shows that only Jacob was loyal to the family's spiritual heritage!

FreeIgboho:
What do u mean? It's just to illustrate that a word does not mean same in every circumstance

Discernment belongs to everyone who is wise God did not say humans don't have the spirit of discernment that's what i mean!

FreeIgboho:
Hence I asked you, is Jesus good? You never answered. Jesus is obviously good. The "good" here is an attribute thst only the Father has

You should ask Jesus himself because he has mouth to speak for himself so don't expect me to contradict what he himself has said about himself and others, this is Jesus speaking:

“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

What you supposed to ask is why Jesus Jesus questioned the man for addressing him as "GOOD" not trying to contradict what Jesus said himself!

MaxInDHouse:
He's one of your Jesus worshipers!

This one cannot be a worshipper of jesus. It takes free will to accept Jesus as our lord and saviour (John 3:16). It takes freewill to believe in him.

However, this guy believes he is a preprogrammed robot, incapable of taking personal decisions and not liable for his wrong actions. He is an escapist trying to avoid the reality of the fact that he could be one day accountable to his maker. So he prefers to blame his maker for his personal failure by subscribing to his kind of believe. I know he read it from some American preacher and fell for it. I personally know the preacher he got that from. He is called Harold Camping, a US based radio evangelist of heretic gospel- the founder of family radio international.

There are many spirits out there bearing Jesus that's why the real Jesus said he will deny you if you are worshiping demons bearing his name because by so doing you and your fellow worshipers will fail to do God's will which the real Jesus taught! Matthew 7:21-23

So i'm not a worshiper of your fake Jesus who is incapable of organizing it's worshipers! John 17:22

Ruke1990:
This one cannot be a worshipper of jesus. It takes free will to accept Jesus as our lord and saviour (John 3:16). It takes freewill to believe in him.

However, this guy believes he is a preprogrammed robot, incapable of taking personal decisions and not liable for his wrong actions. He is an escapist trying to avoid the reality of the fact that he could be one day accountable to his maker. So he prefers to blame his maker for his personal failure by subscribing to his kind of believe. I know he read it from some American preacher and fell for it. I personally know the preacher he got that from. He is called Harold Camping, a US based radio evangelist of heretic gospel- the founder of family radio international.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many spirits out there bearing Jesus that's why the real Jesus said he will deny you if you are worshiping demons bearing his name because by so doing you and your fellow worshipers will fail to do God's will which the real Jesus taught! Matthew 7:21-23

So i'm not a worshiper of your fake Jesus who is incapable of organizing it's worshipers! John 17:22

I understand your disdain for jesus is pushing you towards blasphemy. Thomas called Jesus "my God" in your very when Jesus appeared to him after resurrection.

As a JW who goes about preaching everywhere, it is the command of jesus you are obeying by going to all the world to preach the Gospel. Listen, bible says whomsoever you obey, you are a servant of that person. For going about to preach you are ignorantly submitting to Jesus that you disdain. And by virtue of your submission to his command you are worshipping him. He is your lord if you obey him ignorantly, get that into your skull

Ruke1990:
I understand your disdain for jesus is pushing you towards blasphemy. Thomas called Jesus "my God" in your very when Jesus appeared to him after resurrection. As a JW who goes about preaching everywhere, it is the command of jesus you are obeying by going to all the world to preach the Gospel. Listen, bible says whomsoever you obey, you are a servant of that person. For going about to preach you are ignorantly submitting to Jesus that you disdain. And by virtue of your submission to his command you are worshipping him. He is your lord if you obey him ignorantly, get that into your skull

This is what you supposed to know instead of spewing gibberish about what we say about our God.
Jesus is our Master, Lord and King but he is not our God.
Get that straight!

FreeIgboho:
Do you know it has been determined that AI will one day develop consciousness, which is why there is fear it will one day get rid of man as a very antiquated and inefficient system, which could happen within the next 30 years! ...

Please leave f*****ness. Are you not the one creating and developing it? Is it the same Google of 2000 that you are using today? So as cars can drive themselves today, do you want to now say that 1980 Datsun has developed itself enough to drive itself today?

As I said, I have very low tolerance for people who do think very well

FreeIgboho:
HOW can you prove you are not lying somewhere with wires attached to your head and feeding you all these experiences you think are real? In other words, how are you sure all reality is not happening only in your head?!

lying somewhere with wires attached to your head?

After all the traveling around the world in planes and cars and sleeping and waking up from dreams? And then one bullet to the head, death? Boy, unholywood have spun your mind, to the point of gullible ma**** s,

MaxInDHouse:
Loyalty has nothing to do with freewill it's just the nature of some humans to be loyal but where freewill comes in is whether such a person will be loyal to God or Evil for me i chose to be loyal to God!

Esau was seen from his mother's womb to be a disloyal child that's why God said He hates him but love Jacob and their life shows that only Jacob was loyal to the family's spiritual heritage!

I knew if I left you alone you'd figure it by yourself. So now keep going... since it's NOT a baby's fault he's disloyal, the fault must be due to something Esau did before entering the belly. Combine that with God telling the prophet he knew him before he entered his mother's womb - resultant meaning: life does not start here!

So you really think God that exists outside time cannot see your life from beginning to end b4 you were born?

DeepSight:
The word circumstance does not mean circumstance.

Exactly! If you say, "among his brothers he's the only one with circumstance", circumstance does not mean circumstance.

FreeIgboho:
Exactly! If you say, "among his brothers he's the only one with circumstance", circumstance does not mean circumstance.

The word "among" does not mean among.

Your case is far more serious than any one of us guessed.

MaxInDHouse:
Discernment belongs to everyone who is wise God did not say humans don't have the spirit of discernment that's what i mean!

So also "good" belongs to everyone who is good. But a certain kind of good only belongs to the Father

MaxInDHouse:
You should ask Jesus himself because he has mouth to speak for himself so don't expect me to contradict what he himself has said about himself and others, this is Jesus speaking:

“Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

What you supposed to ask is why Jesus Jesus questioned the man for addressing him as "GOOD" not trying to contradict what Jesus said himself!

I don't have to ask Jesus anything. As God he can see the heart of men. He could see what was in that man's heart and those standing around looking for a reason to arrest him

Dtruthspeaker:
Please leave f*****ness. Are you not the one creating and developing it? Is it the same Google of 2000 that you are using today? So as cars can drive themselves today, do you want to now say that 1980 Datsun has developed itself enough to drive itself today?

As I said, I have very low tolerance for people who do think very well

With all due respect you don't know what you are talking about and I don't think you read any of the screenshots. Where do your thoughts come from? The first screenshot says that your conscious experience of decision-making is an illusion. Studies of the brain have shown that your decision are already there before you become consciously aware of them - which is why addictions are possible. Please study these screenshots. First set is why free will is likely an illusion. Second set is is why AI will likely eventually develop consciousness

DeepSight:
The word "God" does not refer to God.

Word refer does not refer to refer. Bwahahahahahaha!

FreeIgboho:
With all due respect you don't know what you are talking about and I don't think you read any of the screenshots. Where do your thoughts come from? The first screenshot says that your conscious experience of decision-making is an illusion. Studies of the brain have shown that your decision are already there before you become consciously aware of them - which is why addictions are possible. Please study these screenshots. First set is why free will is likely an illusion. Second set is is why AI will likely eventually develop consciousness

With all due respect, screenshots of what somebody said is bad evidence of Truth Clearly you have not heard of something called hearsay evidence.

Meanwhile we all have eyes and senses we use to perceive and see Truth

FreeIgboho:
The fault must be due to something Esau did before entering the belly.

NO!
It's about loyalty and from his attitude in the womb he is indecisive nothing evil other than God doesn't like indecisive people! James 4:8

LordReed:
Word refer does not refer to refer. Bwahahahahahaha!

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