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FreeIgboho:
No, not same God. They believe in Yaweh. They don't know who is Jehovah, an erroneous name. But your people end up voting. So, pleatell, why do you hate voting so much

Let them prove they are worshipers of the true God who promised to unite His worshipers throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} God's Son prayed so they will all have the same line of thought just as he has with his father {John 17:22} and peace will reign among them globally as witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8

FreeIgboho:
That's exactly what I'm doing agreeing with you.
Please how do you spin this below
John 14:9
New International Version
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

I asked you why is Jesus crying with tears while praying and who was he praying to? Hebrews 5:7

MaxInDHouse:
Let them prove they are worshipers of the true God who promised to unite His worshipers throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} God's Son prayed so they will all have the same line of thought just as he has with his father {John 17:22} and peace will reign among them globally as witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8

You mean His Son Michael or Moses. No they don't believe that. They just think Jehovah is a name created in error so they stick to Yaweh

FreeIgboho:
You mean His Son Michael or Moses. No they don't believe that. They just think Jehovah is a name created in error so they stick to Yaweh

Let whatever they believe help them do God's will nah! Matthew 7:21-23

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you why is Jesus crying with tears while praying and who was he praying to? Hebrews 5:7

How does that preclude him from being deity??
Remember, he was also fully human

FreeIgboho:
How does that preclude him from being deity?? Remember, he was also fully human.

Jehovah never cry for help!

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah never cry for help!

Of course not, no one is named Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
Let whatever they believe help them do God's will nah! Matthew 7:21-23

They believe they have to start with the name first
If you get that wrong it's downhill from there

FreeIgboho:
Of course not, no one is named Jehovah

Says you!

FreeIgboho:
They believe they have to start with the name first. If you get that wrong it's downhill from there

We are waiting to see what becomes of them and their I AM!

MaxInDHouse:
Says you!

Says all these authorities below. Where are your own authorities?

MaxInDHouse:
We are waiting to see what becomes of them and their I AM!

You don't have to wait. They're already blessed from right here and you're smugly enjoying their blessings with them without contributing anything.

"I AM" simply means "Yah Weh"

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Isaiah 9:6 
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 8
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him..

Exodus 3:14
God revealed his name to Moses stating, "I AM WHO I AM". This is often translated as "I AM" or "Yahweh". God instructed Moses to tell the Israelites, "I AM sent me to you".

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 14:9
“Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Mathew 16
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

John 20:28
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 10:33
"We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"

Mark 14
Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”
62 “I am,” said Jesus...
63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?”
(Here again Jesus uses the divine "I am"}

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FreeIgboho:
Says all these AUTHORITIES below. Where are your own authorities?

You don't even know the meaning of that word "AUTHORITY"

Let me enlighten you a bit!

Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses claims that Jesus is with them and using them to direct his disciples globally this is just their claim but the evidence is everywhere as in all countries, races, tribes, ethnic groups, languages and tongues this little group of less than 12 old men are in control of millions of people having AUTHORITY over them just as Jesus foretold:

“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." Luke 12:32

He even warned us that they are his brothers! Matthew 25:34-46

And when Peter asked him what will be their gain for following Jesus {Matthew 19:27} Jesus told them that they will have families throughout the earth! Mark 10:28-30

Over these large global family of peace loving worshipers Jesus appointed them as overseers or AUTHORITY! Matthew 16:19

That's why i keep asking you:

Who are these people you are quoting and what is the proof that they have God's backing?

Now you yourself mentioned the word "AUTHORITY"
Can you present those over whom they are in control as AUTHORITIES?

FreeIgboho:
You don't have to wait. They're already blessed from right here and you're smugly enjoying their blessings with them without contributing anything.

"I AM" simply means "Yah Weh"

Ọmọ i don't know them or their I AM!

FreeIgboho:
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Jesus is not God. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire/çatholic Church on the order of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire.
Gof is the universal divine consciousness. Not a man or a human being. People talk about the Christ consciousness, I really don't know what it means.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't even know the meaning of that word "AUTHORITY"

Let me enlighten you a bit!

Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses claims that Jesus is with them and using them to direct his disciples globally this is just their claim but the evidence is everywhere as in all countries, races, tribes, ethnic groups, languages and tongues this little group of less than 12 old men are in control of millions of people having AUTHORITY over them just as Jesus foretold:

“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." Luke 12:32

He even warned us that they are his brothers! Matthew 25:34-46

And when Peter asked him what will be their gain for following Jesus {Matthew 19:27} Jesus told them that they will have families throughout the earth! Mark 10:28-30

Over these large global family of peace loving worshipers Jesus appointed them as overseers or AUTHORITY! Matthew 16:19

That's why i keep asking you:

Who are these people you are quoting and what is the proof that they have God's backing?

Now you yourself mentioned the word "AUTHORITY"
Can you present those over whom they are in control as AUTHORITIES?

If only JW were as you portray it on Nairaland I'd become a JW myself - who doesn't like a good thing. If only I didn't know real life JW's. If only I didn't know people who have left JW. If only internet were not full of testimonies of people who have left JW.
My own take is, if it works for you, stick to it! I know a lady who has tried all sorts of Churches and finally decided the best church for her is the Roman Catholic Church. She's always in church - she loves their rituals, holy water, confessions to priests, asking saints to pray for you, the holy mother, praying the rosary. It all soothes her soul and quiets her demons.
So if JW works for you definitely stick to it, but stop implying it's in any way perfect and stop arguing obvious things like that "Jehovah" is not an erroneously made-up name and not at all the name of the most high!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i don't know them or their I AM!

Well, they're the ones responsible for everything you're enjoying while criticizing - including the peace you enjoy and all these apps.

"Their I Am" literally means Yahweh, whom you erroneously call the mistakenly made-up name, Jehovah

You are not consistent with your arguments!
What i'm saying is only Jehovah's Witnesses have AUTHORITY globally over their members those arguing against the name JEHOVAH can you point to the group over which they have authority?
Please do i will like to check something!

FreeIgboho:
If only JW were as you portray it on Nairaland I'd become a JW myself - who doesn't like a good thing. If only I didn't know real life JW's. If only I didn't know people who have left JW. If only internet were not full of testimonies of people who have left JW.
My own take is, if it works for you, stick to it! I know a lady who has tried all sorts of Churches and finally decided the best church for her is the Roman Catholic Church. She's always in church - she loves their rituals, holy water, confessions to priests, asking saints to pray for you, the holy mother, praying the rosary. It all soothes her soul and quiets her demons.
So if JW works for you definitely stick to it, but stop implying it's in any way perfect and stop arguing obvious things like that "Jehovah" is not an erroneously made-up name and not at all the name of the most high!

FreeIgboho:
Well, they're the ones responsible for everything you're enjoying while criticizing - including peace and all these apps.
"Their I Am" literally means Yahweh, whom you erroneously call Jehovah

Can you mention one group at least you know that Jehovah's Witnesses printed their own Bible and use it globally so let me know one church that's responsible for any of those Bibles belonging to your I AM worshipers!

MaxInDHouse:
You are not consistent with your arguments!
What i'm saying is only Jehovah's Witnesses have AUTHORITY globally over their members those arguing against the name JEHOVAH can you point to the group over which they have authority?
Please do i will like to check something!

Ok, so the Pope does not have authority, neither does Oyakhilome or the Winners and Redeemed guys!😂🥰

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention one group at least you know that Jehovah's Witnesses printed their own Bible and use it globally so let me know one church that's responsible for any of those Bibles belonging to your I AM worshipers!

This is convoluted
Have no idea what u saying

sonmvayina:
Jesus is not God. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire/çatholic Church on the order of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire.
God is the universal divine consciousness. Not a man or a human being. People talk about the Christ consciousness, I really don't know what it means.

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FreeIgboho:
So please educate us how predestination includes freewill. Tell us how you cam choose to end up in Lagos if predestined to arrive in Ore

Prediction/predestination are all things that belong only to the person who dared to predict an event whether glory or disgrace.

It does not concern you the subject as you will not even know what was predicted about you, hence you will be doing in your freewill anything that you want. So you going to Lagos or Ore or Ughelli is entirely up to the exercise of your regular freewill, exactly as you picking up the phone to respond or not respond.

So, predestination does not concern you the subject. The only people interested in the prediction/predestination are 2 groups

1) the person who made the prediction and

2) the person/people who those who heard it who are also standing guard to see and ensure that the person who made the prediction does not do anything to make his prediction come to pass.

And so no one cares about predestination since they would never know about what the prediction is so everyone is living their lives using their freewill like the girl whose freewill was to kill the lecturer

https://www.nairaland.com/8471561/teenager-sentenced-life-imprisonment-over#136056785

Dtruthspeaker:
Prediction/predestination are all things that belong only to the person who dared to predict an event whether glory or disgrace.

It does not concern you the subject as you will not even know what was predicted about you, hence you will be doing in your freewill anything that you want. So you going to Lagos or Ore or Ughelli is entirely up to the exercise of your regular freewill, exactly as you picking up the phone to respond or not respond.

So, predestination does not concern you the subject. The only people interested in the prediction/predestination are 2 groups

1) the person who made the prediction and

2) the person/people who those who heard it who are also standing guard to see and ensure that the person who made the prediction does not do anything to make his prediction come to pass.

And so no one cares about predestination since they would never know about what the prediction is so everyone is living their lives using their freewill like the girl whose freewill was to kill the lecturer

https://www.nairaland.com/8471561/teenager-sentenced-life-imprisonment-over#136056785

This is the definition of convoluted. What the heck are you talking about? There can't be free will if predestination exists for everything. Full stop, end of story.
Furthermore, you'll never know if you have free will because you're not sure where your thoughts actually come from!

FreeIgboho:
One No vote.
Where are the yes votes? Stand up for your God


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sonmvayina please explain how Romans would create a God that destroyed all their cherished gods and reduced their god-emperor to a common sinner needing forgiveness and salvation

FreeIgboho:
This is the definition of convoluted. What the heck are you talking about? There can't be free will if predestination exists for everything. Full stop, end of story.
Furthermore, you'll never know if you have free will because you're not sure where your thoughts actually come from!

As you are do you know what has been predict about you? No.

Yet here you are doing everything you freewilled to do which you have been doing since you were born. Please, you just want to hang on to rubbish

FreeIgboho:
Ok, so the Pope does not have authority, neither does Oyakhilome or the Winners and Redeemed guys!😂🥰

Haaaaaaaa!

Why not humble yourself and learn from God's people?

Please do you know the meaning of that word: "AUTHORITY"

Well let me enlighten once again.

Can Pope or Oyedepo, or Oyakhilome or Adeboye order members of their church not to raise weapons against their fellow believers in other lands so power drunk rulers like Zelensky (Ukraine) and Putin (Russia) may humbly accept that God's servants have inculcated the love of Christ in the minds of their followers ?

Or do you think if the authority is given to you as overseer of members of the house of faith in Christ Jesus you would fold your arms while believers under your authority are fighting and killing themselves?

Just a word from the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and no JW will raise a weapon not only against their fellow worshipers o but not even against their unbelieving neighbors!

That's what AUTHORITY means! Matthew 16:19; Luke 12:32

FreeIgboho:
This is convoluted
Have no idea what u saying

JEHOVAH is the God of Jehovah's Witnesses so the name of their God appears more than 7,000 times in their Bible and they are using it to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, erase the use of weapons in the hearts of adherents, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Please what has your I AM achieved among it's worshipers who are claiming the name JEHOVAH is fake?

MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaa!

Why not humble yourself and learn from God's people?

Please do you know the meaning of that word: "AUTHORITY"

Well let me enlighten once again.

Can Pope or Oyedepo, or Oyakhilome or Adeboye order members of their church not to raise weapons against their fellow believers in other lands so power drunk rulers like Zelensky (Ukraine) and Putin (Russia) may humbly accept that God's servants have inculcated the love of Christ in the minds of their followers ?

Or do you think if the authority is given to you as overseer of members of the house of faith in Christ Jesus you would fold your arms while believers under your authority are fighting and killing themselves?

Just a word from the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and no JW will raise a weapon not only against their fellow worshipers o but not even against their unbelieving neighbors!

That's what AUTHORITY means! Matthew 16:19; Luke 12:32

You've posted some nonsensical stuff here but this one is about the most nonsensical. Conscientious objection is one of the founding doctrines of JW (Just like some other organizations, example, Nation of Islam) so how can anybody order it?? It's like saying the Pope ordered his members to be Catholic!
If you said they ordered JW to go to war and they did, that'd be different. That's what AUTHORITY means