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| Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by adenigga(op): 5:22am On Jul 17, 2025 |
United States President Donald Trump has weighed in on the debate over the greatest football player of all time.Source: https://vanguardngr.com/No-Messi-or-Ronaldo-Trump-names-his-greatest-footballer-of-all-time
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| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by richmond500: 5:26am On Jul 17, 2025 |
I watched videos of Pele, Pele was great but I'll still choose Messi and ronaldo. Pele didn't have many strong rival like M10 or Cr7 in his days, also football rules weren't this hard and skills weren't this refined during Pele time. The duo dominated when Benzema, scholes, De bryne, Xavi, Pique, Ramos etc were on the pitch with crazy passes and crazy tackles. When it comes to dribble, there is no one that existed on this planet that does it better than Ankara messi |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Nyanabo(m): 5:27am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Ok. Hj Pele was great Maradona was also great and Trump is a great man |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Temptation147: 5:30am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Trump up He is right here, even though it's old fashioned Pele is the real 🐐 |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by siralos135: 5:32am On Jul 17, 2025 |
So very true. Pele was a colossus in his days and those who watched him would say this generation of players have nothing on him. Some may mention Messi sha but Pele never had the luxury of sport science, medical care and the kind of monetary incentives that Messi currently enjoys. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by HeadNigga: 5:34am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Pele over Cristiano and Messi? No...I disagree. His opinion though |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by belikewater: 5:34am On Jul 17, 2025 |
You try jare Orange Man, at least you sabi Pele sha ![]() |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by amechispeaks(m): 5:35am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Pele won 3 FIFA World Cups and was top scorer in all three. He also scored more than a thousand goals throughout his career. Although FIFA disputes this since many of his goals were off camera/off the record during his playing time in Brazil. Either way, he's the greatest player that ever lived. In my humble opinion. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Lumarstone: 5:38am On Jul 17, 2025 |
To me, the greatest football player I've seen is that Brazilian called Ronaldinho. He is a talented footballer with skills to dribble his opponent and locates his teammate(s) with one kind banana pass. He is a footballer extraordinary. I left. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by KnowAll(m): 5:39am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Can you remember the move of hitting a ball hard on an opponent player and taking advantage of the rebound. That is a Pelé move. He was a genius. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by MERCHANDISER: 5:40am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Messi is way better..... He didn't watch messi😀 Trump has zero football knowledge |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by KnowAll(m): 5:41am On Jul 17, 2025 |
And what we call “ sangalo” in Nigeria bicycle kicks that is another Pelé move. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Seequadry(m): 5:41am On Jul 17, 2025 |
His way of no disrespecting Messi who is trying to promote the game in America.... Baba for mention Ronaldo straight away 😂😂... He is Ronaldo type of guy |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by cr7lomo: 5:42am On Jul 17, 2025 |
richmond500:Maradona and Ronaldinho were better dribblers than Messi |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by msrcusgarvey6(m): 5:44am On Jul 17, 2025 |
When were you watching Pele like Trump? Please tell us about facilities, Medicare, goalies, financing and Media involved in football ⚽ during Pele's era so we can make our own decisions as well |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by cr7lomo: 5:46am On Jul 17, 2025 |
amechispeaks:Pele was never top scorer in any world cup.... ur info is wrong |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Basic(m): 5:47am On Jul 17, 2025 |
richmond500:No, you can't conclude that Pele didn't have many strong rivals. He definitely would have because football is played globally. The problem then was that football followership isn't as massive and diverse as we have it now. Also, all of the technology that makes it easier to watch multiple leagues and players at a time were almost inexistent then. Another factor is the significantly increased number of competitions. Now we continue to have additions like Club World Cup, Nations League, Conference League, etc. that increase the focus of multiple players at a time. Also, it's normal for anyone who didn't witness that era first-hand to think Pele had no rivals. The truth is, in life, if you're not the best, nobody will remember you, no matter how good you are. In 50-60 years' time, people of then would also think Messi and Ronaldo were the only players of this era. Nobody would remember the likes of Iniesta, Xavi, Benzema, etc. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by cr7lomo: 5:48am On Jul 17, 2025 |
MERCHANDISER:Messi that failed at psg ... Messi na just propaganda |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by gaussian(m): 5:48am On Jul 17, 2025 |
This is not even a debate, Pele is the greatest of all time. Everyone shouting Ronaldo and messi probably think football started 15years ago. When I watched clips of Pele, I was amazed at his brilliance in a time when there were butchers in form of defenders. Don't just watch Pele in world cup even his club games, he was head and shoulders above every other person including Diego Maradona. Many great talents existed like Socrates, Tostao, Garrincha, Romario, Bebeto, Baggio Cryuff et al but Pele is indeed the greatest to have stepped into a football pitch |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Wainey: 5:49am On Jul 17, 2025 |
cr7lomo:they were great dribbers with skills. The difference between them and Messi is that Messi dribbles with speed while the ball is still on his legs, he dribbles like he is falling while running with the ball glued to his legs, he can dribble pass 5 defenders by moving in zigzag line and the defenders won't have enough time to react to the dribble cos the ball is always closer to messi's leg. Messi dribbles is the hardest I have seen |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by judewrites: 5:51am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Definitely, Pele isn't the greatest anymore, but he's preferred by many because he was the first outstanding footballer on the world scene. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by redcliff: 5:53am On Jul 17, 2025 |
richmond500:You were not born in that era so you wont understand. Somronne won 3 worldcups, the greatest anybody has ever won and you are downplaying it? Lol |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by MERCHANDISER: 5:57am On Jul 17, 2025 |
cr7lomo:How did he fail at psg,don't you understand the position he was playing at psg?😀 |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Osiris12: 5:58am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Trump wey no Dey watch football don put fire for football lovers camp. When you are great. You are GREAT |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Adakintroy: 5:58am On Jul 17, 2025 |
richmond500:Is either he is great or not. He was what he was for his era. Refined or not. We dont know how much football would have evolved in a hundred years time and how messi ronaldo skill will be made to look obsolete. If they are great they are great. Greatness is never time bound. |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by inoki247: 5:59am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Lol European Football no be America thing.... The same way Alot of Americans thinks African is a Country and not a continent is the same way Most of them don't know who's Messi or Ronaldo.... |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Wainey: 5:59am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Basic:The only person that revolutionalize football was cruyff, George best was only euro focused. Messi deh disregard force of gravity, he does close dribble, magical elite visionary. Pele is like a tank, both foot, strong, great header for his era. Ronaldo has the height, the agility, fearless, ruthless, he was like a player built in a lab. You can't compare Messi to Pele, except for strength which Pele posses, Messi dust him in everything, dribbles, quick turns, great passes etc |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by gaussian(m): 6:01am On Jul 17, 2025 |
MERCHANDISER:Messi is probably the best of this Generation, but if he existed in Pele's Generation, he wouldn't even make the 23 man squad of Argentina, His career would have ended before it even started. Rogue defenders for use am do pepper soup. Football was very difficult in the 60's and 70's. Tackle from behind was legit. Omo na who get mind dey attempt dribble. Defenders wey dia laps big like tree trunk and chest heavy like barrel. Dem resemble wrestlers. Every match na War. Ronaldo sef go retire at 30. Injury will not allow them play for this long. Pele is the Greatest to have ever kicked a football, Messi should be a close second. Football belongs to Brazil and the king is Pele |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by cr7lomo: 6:03am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Wainey:Ronaldo also dribbled with even more speed ...go watch Ronaldo at United and early Madrid days ... but Maradona Ronaldinho were better dribblers... the greatest world cup goal in history is Maradonas goal against England .... dribbled from half of the field plus keeper join ... and England was one of the best defensive teams at that time... Maradona wasn't protected by refs like they protect Messi.... Maradona was better than Messi...he did wonders at a napoli that were unknown... its like Messi joining Brentford or Southampton and then annihilating the EPL with likes of united , Chelsea Liverpool, arsenal , City, spurs and winning the league against all odds back to back ... and he was a WC winner and best player in the World when he joined te most challenging league in the world with the likes of Juventus, Milan, inter , lazio , Parma, Roma ... Messi could have never done that, even in his primest period.... Fifa was against Maradona and Argentina in the 80s and 90s and hatte Maradona....he still did it...unlike the pampering Messi receives from same fifa |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by Wainey: 6:06am On Jul 17, 2025 |
redcliff:If Messi had played in peles era, he will score crazy goals, defenders weren't organized as they are now. Though his time will be shortened cos of physicality but he will adapt well. Pele was complete but he lacks that clinical maneuvering that Messi has |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by aribisala0(m): 6:06am On Jul 17, 2025*. Modified: 7:58am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Think about this 1. They probably brought in cards Yellow and Red because of Pele He played 4 World Cups 1958.1962, 1966, 1970 His treatment in the 1966 world Cup was so brutal that was a major contributor to the introduction o cards in 1970 For me that alone makes it impossible to compare players today to when he played Imagine playing against defenders who know the worst thing that will happen is a free kick/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8GdiMW4BL8 Now you have all kinds of protection for strikers including No back pass rule When Pele played you could pass the ball to the Keeper and he could pick it up 100 times EURO 1992 SCANDAL PETER SHMEICHEL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX2HcvMkOiA Overall those two rules make strikers work much easier Now you even get a straight red if you are the last defender |
| Re: Not Messi Or Ronaldo: Trump Names His Greatest Footballer Of All Time by aribisala0(m): 6:07am On Jul 17, 2025 |
Pele was very rugged but did not get the protection modern strikers have |
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