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Righteousness2:
But From Nigeria, to France to Belgium to Australia and the USA,
Churches and synagogues have been burnt and destroyed, even where there is no war. We have not seen you or your likes wailing anywhere.

Yiu don't care about the church. Your Hate for GOD'S CHOSEN nation Destroying Terrorists brethren is your pain.

Fact. Even in core Muslim countries, Christians can't build churches. They operate in undergrounds. What

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

I assume you are not aware that Isreal is not a Christian country. It is jewish country. In fact there are more muslims than Christians.
Isreal is ~ 73% jewish, 18% muslim, 2 % Christian

Where is Hitler? If the war didn't stop we all won't leave for ever.

U only need to be a human to conde

They are not in anyway the apple of our God's eye rather a danjarawa pepper in God's eye. Our modern God is loving, compassionate and abhors shedding of blood(both innocent and bad ones). Anyone hiding under God's name to cause harm, ruin homes... is not of God.

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

CoronaVirusPro:
The usual!

Same excuses! Always regretting.

Who are they still fighting in Gaza? No one shooting or throwing missiles at them but still keep bombing innocent civilians.

The reasons for the actions of the German man needs to be investigated. I refuse to fall for the false narration that he just started cleansing. He saw something the books never narrated and that, the world is suffering now.

tell your Hamas brothers to release the hostages then this war will stop immediately if not, you will continue to lament till you are hit

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

ONKR
ELRB

CoronaVirusPro:
The usual!

Same excuses! Always regretting.

Who are they still fighting in Gaza? No one shooting or throwing missiles at them but still keep bombing innocent civilians.

The reasons for the actions of the German man needs to be investigated. I refuse to fall for the false narration that he just started cleansing. He saw something the books never narrated and that, the world is suffering now.

He's just avoiding a time where Isreal will suffer attacks and cleansing from the terrorists, just as Nigeria is suffering in the hands of fulanis

Bizmind95:
Tell that to the birds. Worse part is that some ignoramuses here don't even know that there are more Christians in Gaza, Iran, Syria, lraq, Jordan than in lsrael. Infact it will even be much more easier to find a 25 year old virgin girl in Owerri than to find a single Christian Jew in lsrael. The two holiest sites in Christianity --- The Curch of Nativity in Bethlehem, where Jesus was born and The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where he was buried are both maintained by Palestinians. Go online and watch how Palestinians worship in and maintain the two churches. The prominent Aljazeera Journalist Shireen Abu-Akleh that was killed by lsraeli forces in 2022 was a Palestinian Christian. I watched her burial Live on Aljazeera and saw where Palestinians were singing all those same burial hymns we sing in Church here. Even after the church service, thousands of Palestinians Muslims and Christians alike still gathered together and paraded her coffin through the streets, with everyone trying to touch the coffin, like Muslims normally do during the burials of a beloved figure. No hatred, no discriminations, no nothing. Just Muslims and Christians peacefully co-existing together. But the deluded Mofos here will always tell you that their so-called "Chosen people of God" are eliminating Muslim terrorists. Ignorance is truly a disease.

so because there are Christians in Gaza, we should support terrorism?

helpee:
I read the article you wrote above. I won't go into details with you. I am not going into religious bigotry with you.

You seemed to believe anyone that supports Isreal must be a Christian. Does that mean anyone that supports Palestine must be a Muslim? It is obvious you are a muslim,you support Palestinians. You are angry that soneone else supports isreal based on his religious affiliate. How reasonable is that?

We have many christians all over America and Europe supporting Palestinians.

Finally, even in the Bible, the Jews never supported Jesus. There is no where in the bible where it is predicted that Jesus will be widely accepted by the jews. Infact, it is expressly states that a prophet is not appreciated in his home town.

You seem to think that Christians need validation of the jews first before the religion can be valid simply because the religion originated from there.

Only muslims do that.. That is why it is compulsory for you to visit Mecca but it is not same for a Christian.

By and large, religion is personal. Christians are not looking for jewish validation for their religion. Many South Africans are Christians. They support Palestinians.

Many other people support isreal because they believe Palestinians are terrorists and you cant blame them

This is quite hilarious, None of what I wrote was based off of assumptions.

I had confirmations from him about his religion being Christianity.

secondly, I don't have issues with goyim (non-jews - in hebrew) supporting Israel, I just find it ridiculous when Christians support israel especially for religious reasons; understand the distinction.

helpee:
Now i respect other reasonable muslims on this forum.

Imagine if i ask you wether your ' Q' contains fabrications? Of course I can point out many but that wil be going into the gutter with you.

Learn to be tolerant. Religion is divisive.

I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you didn't read up how the conversation started.

And do go about uttering statements Iike "reasonable muslim" just coz your feelings were hurt.

follow the conversation, he clearly laid claim to "Bible" Being the "Word of God", to which I responded with some refutations to that effect.

HolinessForever:
https://www.nairaland.com/8476992/israeli-strike-gazas-only-catholic




https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/662451

These people are rabid anti-xtian.......not that the Christians are Christ like sef but you see zionism, that Idealogy is deep !

tctrills:
Your point here is that christians should hate Jews because they don't believe in Christian theology?
And you quoted the words of men who lived hundreds of years ago only to show that Christianity and Judaism are 2 different religions with different believes and both don't agree on a number of subjects.
But then you did not quiote from the thousands of passages of scripture where both religions agree. You did not quote from the hundreds of Jews who have said good and positive things about Christianity.

I'd very much like you to point me where I made the point that anyone or even Christians should hate the jews.

you probably mistook my response for something else or failed to read it clearly, and simply jumped into rebuttals.

Read up on the last question I asked him.

something to the effect of "remind me why you support the state of Israel".

Akhaz024:
As a Muslim, christain folk said I am not safe because I don't believe in Jesus as my lord and Savior even though I believe in him as a prophet.
But the jew doesn't believe in Jesus, will they make heaven yes or no?

You may not get the answer that you desire from this fellow. The truth is, the Israel that was the apple of God's eye is long gone. The era is gone. The era was a demonstration to be used for teaching in the future. We are in that future now where Israel is no more different from any other nation. And your Koran acknowledges that Jesus is more than a just a prophet. Those who teach you or make you believe that he's a mere prophet are doing you a disfavor.

We are behind you Israel, It was a mistake, in wars such happens

Stellar360:
I'd very much like you to point me where I made the point that anyone or even Christians should hate the jews.

you probably mistook my response for something else or failed to read it clearly, and simply jumped into rebuttals.

Read up on the last question I asked him.

something to the effect of "remind me why you support the state of Israel".

I understood everything you wrote; you basically quoted the writings of ancient jews as your reason why a Christian should not support the state of Israel.
You are saying that you wonder why a Christian would support Israel from a religious point because the four Jews you quoted consider is consider to be a form of paganism.

Please let me know if you still think that I misunderstood you.

rigid123:
They are not in anyway the apple of our God's eye rather a danjarawa pepper in God's eye. Our modern God is loving, compassionate and abhors shedding of blood(both innocent and bad ones). Anyone hiding under God's name to cause harm, ruin homes... is not of God.

There is no Modern God anywhere.

Jesus the same yesterday, today and forever.

People like you don turn church into something else because you think there is a modern God that accepts worldliness.

safarifarms:
You may not get the answer that you desire from this fellow. The truth is, the Israel that was the apple of God's eye is long gone. The era is gone. The era was a demonstration to be used for teaching in the future. We are in that future now where Israel is no more different from any other nation. And your Koran acknowledges that Jesus is more than a just a prophet. Those who teach you or make you believe that he's a mere prophet are doing you a disfavor.

Where did you get the idea that the era of Israel being the apple of Gods eyes is gone?

It’s not o.

And modern day Israel doesn’t consist only of this one we are talking about.

Why do you think America seems to be an extension of Israel, and they are very powerful and prosperous?

Think about it.

We believe you guys.

To the Christians, sorry for your loss. It was a mistake because such rarely happens and it's a warzone. Please accept their apology/sympathy

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

which kind Christianity be this? Or Zionism? Jesus is the way, not Israel. No one, including Isreal, can please God without Christ. So which one be with Israel?

Even if Israel bombed the Church deliberately, what will the Catholic Church do? What will the US do? What will the world do?

NOTHING!!!

I say, NOTHING!!!

At times I wonder whether Jesus Christ would have supported what is going on. I mean the way Israel is pounding innocent and defenceless women and aged men, all in the guise of killing Hamas members.

God dey!

I won't say it the way Mama Peace said hers!🤣

Righteousness2:
But From Nigeria, to France to Belgium to Australia and the USA,
Churches and synagogues have been burnt and destroyed, even where there is no war. We have not seen you or your likes wailing anywhere.

Yiu don't care about the church. Your Hate for GOD'S CHOSEN nation Destroying Terrorists brethren is your pain.

God bless you Sir...

You said it as it's!!!

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

Can you calmly, logically, and truthfully explain how the jews, ancient and current, are the same people in the Bible claimed to be god's chosen?

I ask this because the ancient jews were the descendants of Judah and his tribe, not Joseph who received Jacob's (Israel) blessings as received from Abraham.

The kingdom of Judah in the south was the kingdom of the jews who did not receive Jacob's blessing, while the kingdom of the Israelites in the north did receive the blessing as the descendants of Joseph.

So if the ancient Judeans did not receive this blessing as the chosen people, it means the jews were not the chosen people; the Israelites were.

And these modern European jews have absolutely no lineage with the ancient Judeans beyond sharing the religion of Judaism, which was actually founded 200 years after Christianity.

So, explain your warped thesis.

Neoteny:
Can you calmly, logically, and truthfully explain how the jews, ancient and current, are the same people in the Bible claimed to be god's chosen?

I ask this because the ancient jews were the descendants of Judah and his tribe, not Joseph who received Jacob's (Israel) blessings as received from Abraham.

The kingdom of Judah in the south was the kingdom of the jews who did not receive Jacob's blessing, while the kingdom of the Israelites in the north did receive the blessing as the descendants of Joseph.

So if the ancient Judeans did not receive this blessing as the chosen people, it means the jews were not the chosen people; the Israelites were.

And these modern European jews have absolutely no lineage with the ancient Judeans beyond sharing the religion of Judaism, which was actually founded 200 years after Christianity.

So, explain your warped thesis.

He can't explain ooo... His knowledge of religion isn't deep; he just reads whatever his pastors tell him to read in the Bible.

Stellar360:
it's even more fascinating how you seem to support the state of israel, more so from a religious point of view.
Given that christianity is considered to be a form of paganism (Avodah Zarah, עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה) due to its "corrupt" Trinitarian beliefs and deification of Jesus (whom you endlessly proclaim to be god, and on that note I'll invite you to study extensively on how Yesh'ua is characterized in Judaism most especially from the Gemara 'Talmud'), according to the Rambam and other Jewish Sages, below are some references.

1. Rabbi Saadia Gaon (882-942 CE)
One of the earliest major Jewish philosophers and Geonim.
In his work "Book of Beliefs and Opinions" (ספר האמונות והדעות), Saadia Gaon criticizes Christian Trinitarian theology and considers the idea of God becoming man to be blasphemous and idolatrous.
Reference: The Book of Beliefs and Opinions, Trans. Samuel Rosenblatt, Yale University Press (1948), especially in the chapters on Unity of God (Oneness).

2. Rabbi Maimonides (Rambam, 1135-1204 CE)
In his halakhic magnum opus, the Mishneh Torah, particularly in the section Hilchot Avodat Kochavim (Laws of Idolatry), Rambam writes that:
"The Christians are idol worshipers, and Sunday is their day of idolatry." - Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 9:4
He also discusses in his Responsa (Teshuvot ha-Rambam) that Christianity is considered idolatry for Jews because of the belief in the divinity of Jesus, the use of graven images, and the Trinity, which contradict the strict monotheism of Judaism.

3. Rabbi Avraham ben HaRambam (c. 1186-1237 CE)
The son of Maimonides.
He followed his father's line of thought and also viewed Christian theology - particularly its anthropomorphism - as a deviation from true monotheism.

4. Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg (1215-1293 CE)
A major Ashkenazi authority during the medieval period.
In his responsa, he clearly defines Christian beliefs as idolatrous, and ruled that Jews must not enter churches due to the presence of icons and statues.
Responsa of Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg, Teshuvot Maharam, siman 193.





Remind me again, why you support the State of Israel?

Yehn yehn yehn
Let the rain of missiles fall on the evil jihadis.
They are a cancer to Humanity.

You would like to support people who go about slaughtering innocent people in the name of Religion but you have a problem with a Country that has developed in all ways to defend themselves.