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ScamDemicEra:
.... you can present a mountain load of factual evidence and it wont make a dent !
these are the "born again" that will welcome the anti-Christ with red carpet !!

What other words does Jesus have to use to describe the synagogue of satan that they can see with their korokoro eyes to convince these guys ?

The ruler of this world has locked their minds up till the expiry date, may OLODUMARE hasten that expiry.

And You believe that the Christians and even liberal Muslims are safe in the hands of terrorist and jihadis??

BTW why are you not projecting your energy on the ones killing our brothers both Christians and Muslims back home in Nija??

All this una tears and cries no reach anywhere bcus more missiles will continue to rain on the heads of evil demonic terrorist.

Radarada.

Stellar360:
it's even more fascinating how you seem to support the state of israel, more so from a religious point of view.
Given that christianity is considered to be a form of paganism (Avodah Zarah, עֲבוֹדָה זָרָה) due to its "corrupt" Trinitarian beliefs and deification of Jesus (whom you endlessly proclaim to be god, and on that note I'll invite you to study extensively on how Yesh'ua is characterized in Judaism most especially from the Gemara 'Talmud'), according to the Rambam and other Jewish Sages, below are some references.

1. Rabbi Saadia Gaon (882-942 CE)
One of the earliest major Jewish philosophers and Geonim.
In his work "Book of Beliefs and Opinions" (ספר האמונות והדעות), Saadia Gaon criticizes Christian Trinitarian theology and considers the idea of God becoming man to be blasphemous and idolatrous.
Reference: The Book of Beliefs and Opinions, Trans. Samuel Rosenblatt, Yale University Press (1948), especially in the chapters on Unity of God (Oneness).

2. Rabbi Maimonides (Rambam, 1135-1204 CE)
In his halakhic magnum opus, the Mishneh Torah, particularly in the section Hilchot Avodat Kochavim (Laws of Idolatry), Rambam writes that:
"The Christians are idol worshipers, and Sunday is their day of idolatry." - Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 9:4
He also discusses in his Responsa (Teshuvot ha-Rambam) that Christianity is considered idolatry for Jews because of the belief in the divinity of Jesus, the use of graven images, and the Trinity, which contradict the strict monotheism of Judaism.

3. Rabbi Avraham ben HaRambam (c. 1186-1237 CE)
The son of Maimonides.
He followed his father's line of thought and also viewed Christian theology - particularly its anthropomorphism - as a deviation from true monotheism.

4. Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg (1215-1293 CE)
A major Ashkenazi authority during the medieval period.
In his responsa, he clearly defines Christian beliefs as idolatrous, and ruled that Jews must not enter churches due to the presence of icons and statues.
Responsa of Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg, Teshuvot Maharam, siman 193.





Remind me again, why you support the State of Israel?

Ignorance! Ignorance is the reason he is supporting the sate of Isreal, ask a Jew in Israel " where is Jusus now? And he will tell you"HELL" but ask a Muslim" where is Jesus? And he will tell you "HEAVEN" so who is your enemy ? Muslims or Jews?

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

God's chosen people bombing God's chosen churches! What da 4rk.

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

My friend just gave birth to a baby boy, The boy will be named Jesus. I hope people like Righteouness and co will worship him as their Lord and Savior.

If you can call a nation created through terrorism, murder of women and children "God's chosen" because it was deceitly named in 1948 as "Israel" despite it been at the forefront of championing and publicising the things god forbid I(Usury, Pornography etc) means you should not have problem worshiping Jesus Navas or my friends son as your lord and savior

tctrills:
I understood everything you wrote; you basically quoted the writings of ancient jews as your reason why a Christian should not support the state of Israel.
You are saying that you wonder why a Christian would support Israel from a religious point because the four Jews you quoted consider is consider to be a form of paganism.

Please let me know if you still think that I misunderstood you.

You can't claim to understand everything I wrote and then process to assert that I basically quoted the writings of ancient jews as my reason for why a Christian should not support the state of Israel.

Firstly, Those aren't Just "Ancient Jews", The second on that list is the Rambam, if you know anything about Judaism, you'd know how great a Scribe, the Rambam (Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon) is. (you can get yourself educated about his works using this link: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/75991/jewish/Maimonides-His-Life-and-Works.htm)

secondly, I never stated that "christians" in general shouldn't support the state of israel, I was more interested in why the "Righteousness" dude supports the state of Israel, given that he seems to always cite scriptural passages whenever he reports about the state of Israel; everyone has a right to support what pleases them, I was only interest in his reasons and convictions.
Judaism consider christianity as a pegan religion, I provided evidence to that effect, and if you study Judaism further you'd learn that a Jew is to never set foot in a church as it is deemed a place of idolatry.

get yourself educated at the very least before jumping into certain conversations. at least then, you wouldn't refer to the Rambam as some "Ancient Jew".

cucumbar:
Where did you get the idea that the era of Israel being the apple of Gods eyes is gone?

It’s not o.

And modern day Israel doesn’t consist only of this one we are talking about.

Why do you think America seems to be an extension of Israel, and they are very powerful and prosperous?

Think about it.

Galatians 3:28 states, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Righteousness2:
I am not a so called Christian by mere religion or by birth
I am not a so called Christian because I attend church in sundays.
I am not a christian because my name is Paul mary , Elijah, peter or Martha.

By the Grace of GOD, I am a Born-again christian, who Believes and lives by the Word of GOD, the Holy bible.

Church mugun

Stellar360:
Speaking of the "Holy bible", what part is the word of GOD?

The Old Testament (Tanakh) or the 27 books of the new testament, all of which Athanasius of Alexandria detailed in his Thirty-Ninth Festal Letter of 367, deeming them as canonical[https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/athanasius-defines-new-testament, https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2806039.htm]?

And futhermore, I'd like to inquire about the "Word of GOD" you boldly lay claim to, if the Bible, which has fabricated verses, notably the

1 John 5:7–8 (Comma Johanneum), which has seen criticisms from the following scholars:

Bruce M. Metzger [a scholar of the New Testament](1914 - 2007)
An eminent modern textual critic, Metzger asserted that the Comma is spurious, unsupported in early Greek manuscripts or patristic citations. He wrote: "That these words are spurious and have no right to stand in the New Testament is certain." - https://choosinghats.org/2010/12/the-comma-johanneum-a-critical-evaluation-of-the-text-of-1-john-5-7-8/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Daniel B. Wallace [an American professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary](b. 1952)
Wallace emphasizes that no Greek manuscripts before the 16th century include the text, and it is absent from citations by early Church Fathers—making it a clear interpolation introduced in the Latin tradition.

Not to mention the John 7:53–8:11 (Pericope Adulterae, the woman caught in adultery), which is missing from early Gospel manuscripts like Pᶜ⁶⁶, Pᶜ⁷⁵, Sinaiticus, and Vaticanus.

Is this what you call the "Word of GOD"?

Bros try to be tolerate of other people religion & holy books, your so called "holy book" too contains contradictions,errors,other things that defies logic and their is a lot of history lifted from d Torah to make up for your own holy book:almost all Jewish prophets were adopted which makes up majority of the names you bears today;Musa(moses),dauwud(David),yakubu(Jacub),isah(Jesus),Ibrahim(Abraham),lut(lot),haru(Aaron),ishaq(Isaac),illyas,Al-yasah,yunus,zakariya,yahya(john),saleh,suleiman, Yusuf(Joseph).
If a book is not from God why plagiarise from it

CoronaVirusPro:
The usual!

Same excuses! Always regretting.

Who are they still fighting in Gaza?

Same crocodile tears! Always playing victim.

Why is Hamas still holding Israeli citizens hostage??

House of God destroyed by the the Jews.
God is now homeless.
I'm very sorry to religious deception

One fact is if it was a direct attack the death toll would have been massive. Even when the Palestinians know it was not a direct attack, they have been taught how to lie in a "holy way" by the religious book they carry about.

The church house several displaced people therefore, if it was a direct attack, casualty would have been massive.

By their fruit you shall know them.
The Bible never permit anyone to lie for any reason. If there's a book that does that it must be from the pit of hell.

cucumbar:
Where did you get the idea that the era of Israel being the apple of Gods eyes is gone?

It’s not o.

And modern day Israel doesn’t consist only of this one we are talking about.

Why do you think America seems to be an extension of Israel, and they are very powerful and prosperous?

Think about it.

America is prosperous because of the favourable and accomodating system it has thanks to the laws put in place by it founding fathers (most likely)...... America was built by immigrants of different races and idealogies and not only a specific race. .

Jakpon:
You seem to be the confused one here Sir. The last time we checked, Benjamin Netanyahu the PM of Israel is not a Christian, he practises Judaism. He and 80% of Israeli's don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God & Saviour of the world.

Here you are however, supporting those who don't believe in Jesus for bombing a place of worship for those who believe in Jesus.

You guys should just be sick of this sickening narrative of Jews don't believe in Jesus and therefore Christians shouldn't support Jews. A simple Bible study will clear this error. Get it very clear once and for all and stop raising that assumption that reads and sounds dumb.

The Bible expressly made it clear the Jews won't accept Jesus and in fact, it is their rejection of Him that opened the door for us all the gentiles to come in to the common wealth. But God promises they'll eventually come to that knowledge in the end, because He chose them as His special people stating anyone who curses them will be cursed, while those who bless them get blessed. Christians or more appropriately put; "Believers" are encouraged by God's Word to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, even though that word Jerusalem can also mean your place of origin.

We don't support them just because Jesus Christ was born there. We do because it is a biblical command for us to do so and if all that's stated in the Word about them all these many years have been fulfilled, shouldn't you tremble and get yourself to be on the winning and right side? God is a covenant keeping God and no matter how long it takes, every thing He said or says, will be fulfilled. No wonder Israel keeps winning all the time, much like in Bible days and today's Pharaoh's, Amalekites and Philistines must learn fast or they get drowned and defeated like their forbears.

Peace.

tctrills:
Your point here is that christians should hate Jews because they don't believe in Christian theology?
And you quoted the words of men who lived hundreds of years ago only to show that Christianity and Judaism are 2 different religions with different believes and both don't agree on a number of subjects.
But then you did not quiote from the thousands of passages of scripture where both religions agree. You did not quote from the hundreds of Jews who have said good and positive things about Christianity.

The most important book in Judaism is the talmud, the same book that calls Mary a prostitute and claims her son, your savior, is burning in a vat of excrement in hell.

Explain how that's an affinity between Judaism and Christianity

israelmao:
We know that those terrorists are peddling unfounded and baseless rumours to whip up up sympathy for themselves and looking desperately for a way to give dog a bad name in order to hang it.

Yep 👍

Neoteny:
Yep 👍

Sprawling propaganda.

gentle12:
Ignorance! Ignorance is the reason he is supporting the sate of Isreal, ask a Jew in Israel " where is Jusus now? And he will tell you"HELL" but ask a Muslim" where is Jesus? And he will tell you "HEAVEN" so who is your enemy ? Muslims or Jews?

A Jew has never forced me to convert to his religion, he's my friend. I'll support him killing another Christian if that Christian is a terrorist that wants to see that all other religions like Islam go into extinction.

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS The Apple of HIS Eyes.

We know the tactics of the haters of GOD'S Chosen nation.
They dont care about the church or anything about it .
They are looking for ways to Deceive those that can be Deceived.

As for me and My Household, we are with ISRAEL Now and Forever.

U don't even care if CHOSEN church is bomb in Gaza.

Neoteny:
The most important book in Judaism is the talmud, the same book that calls Mary a prostitute and claims her son, your savior, is burning in a vat of excrement in hell.

Explain how that's an affinity between Judaism and Christianity

Wrong again. The most important book in Judaism is the Tanakh especially the Torah and if you are asking the affinity between both religions, please read the Tanakh better know as the Old testament.
No Jew will tell you that the Talmud is inspired writing but every practicing Jew with tell you that the old testament is inspired.

tctrills:
Wrong again. The most important book in Judaism is the Tanakh especially the Torah and if you are asking the affinity between both religions, please read the Tanakh better know as the Old testament.
No Jew will tell you that the Talmud is inspired writing but every practicing Jew with tell you that the old testament is inspired.

You're even wronger.
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The Talmud is the book of the jews, their oral laws they claim were written since Moses. But Moses was not a Jew, he was from the tribe of Levi, not Judah.

The mistake you keep making is conflating Jews, descendants of Judah, with Israelites, descendants of Joseph who were blessed by Israel (Jacob). Stick to who belonged to what tribe leading back to the source of the "chosen" mythos and you'll not be as confused.


There's a distinction between Hebrews, Jews, and Israelites.

Neoteny:
You're even wronger.
.
The Talmud is the book of the jews, their oral laws they claim were written since Moses. But Moses was not a Jew, he was from the tribe of Levi, not Judah.

The mistake you keep making is conflating Jews, descendants of Judah, with Israelites, descendants of Joseph who were blessed by Israel (Jacob). Stick to who belonged to what tribe leading back to the source of the "chosen" mythos and you'll not be as confused.


There's a distinction between Hebrews, Jews, and Israelites.

. Now, you are intentionally choosing to be confused. Everyone knows that Moses is not from the tribe of Judah but it is a completely irrelevant argument here unless you are indicating that the old testament is not relevant in Judaism because Moses is not from Judah.
But that would make you the only human being in the world who thinks that the old testament is not holy scripture in Judaism.
Let me help you understand. You are implying that because the bible was not written by Nigerians, it is not a holy scripture to Nigerian Christians ratherbooks written by Nigerian authors or pastors somehow supercede the bible in it's importance. I am not sure you will find many people thinking like that. It's very odd and weird thinking.
Moses is considered the greatest prophet in Judaism.
Please educate yourself using the link below to know who the Jews consider their prophets. You with notice and great similarity with Christianity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_in_Judaism

tctrills:
. Now, you are intentionally choosing to be confused. Everyone knows that Moses is not from the tribe of Judah but it is a completely irrelevant argument here unless you are indicating that the old testament is not relevant in Judaism because Moses is not from Judah.
But that would make you the only human being in the world who thinks that the old testament is not holy scripture in Judaism.
Let me help you understand. You are implying that because the bible was not written by Nigerians, it is not a holy scripture to Nigerian Christians ratherbooks written by Nigerian authors or pastors somehow supercede the bible in it's importance. I am not sure you will find many people thinking like that. It's very odd and weird thinking.
Moses is considered the greatest prophet in Judaism.
Please educate yourself using the link below to know who the Jews consider their prophets. You with notice and great similarity with Christianity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_in_Judaism

You're still not untangling yourself from the deceitful web of lies that jews and Israelites are the same tribe or both are the chosen ones.

A jew is a descendant of Judah and does not bear Israel's blessing. A jew is also a follower of the religion of Judaism founded centuries after Christianity. These jews and the modern European converts subverted the traditions and history of the ancients to lay a claim to Moses and his 5 books, while basing their faith largely on the Talmudic laws.

Jews use the Bible when it suits their hasbara, and rely on the Talmud to justify their depravity.

So long as you Nigerian evangelical lost souls are unable to comprehend the difference between the Chosen Israelites and the rejected Judeans, you'll always look stupid shilling for a religion that completely denigrates your savior and Messiah.

Neoteny:
You're still not untangling yourself from the deceitful web of lies that jews and Israelites are the same tribe or both are the chosen ones.

A jew is a descendant of Judah and does not bear Israel's blessing. A jew is also a follower of the religion of Judaism founded centuries after Christianity. These jews and the modern European converts subverted the traditions and history of the ancients to lay a claim to Moses and his 5 books, while basing their faith largely on the Talmudic laws.

Jews use the Bible when it suits their hasbara, and rely on the Talmud to justify their depravity.

So long as you Nigerian evangelical lost souls are unable to comprehend the difference between the Chosen Israelites and the rejected Judeans, you'll always look stupid shilling for a religion that completely denigrates your savior and Messiah.

You continue to talk about the irrelevant. We both know who the Jews are. The question is, is the old testament a holy book in the Jewish religion? You are the only person in the world that thinks it is not.
If you had some evidence we would have taken you serious but sorry we cant. Hope you understand now.