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Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SmartPolician: 8:34pm On Jul 18, 2025
Levels1:
it cost you nothing to swallow your pride and admit you are wrong

knowledge is power
Where this one from fall out?

There are too many ignorant people in this country and I am genuinely worried.

You people must be children to think that this NASS was the first to review the constitution

Google Senator Ibrahim Mantu... he's one of the senators who led committees that toured the country to review and amend the constitution.

It's either some of you are Gen-Z children or you started listening to the news yesterday. Some of us had very early exposure to news before the advent of social media.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by specialmati(m): 8:49pm On Jul 18, 2025
Putindbutt:
It will be another big legacy of President Bola Tinubu, giving us a new constitution by next year. A new 2026 constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria. Dumping the 1999 military constitution in a trashcan. Tinubu is a President with bullion vans.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin please in case of next time

Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by lexy2014: 9:03pm On Jul 18, 2025
dederocs:
This topic is not about Tinubu, restructuring...true federal structure.
dederocs:
States must determine their faith.

Full resources control
State police
State laws on security and preserving their culture.

We also need one parliament, two houses is too expensive.

The president should not have the powers to employ INEC chairman and attorney general of the federation, the parliament can decide who the INEC chairman will become, due to recommendations from respected Nigerians and organisations with integrity, should be someone well versed in the area of assignment. The attorney general should be a legal luminary of repute, the parliament can debate between candidates selected to choose one.
with the half resources governors control, what have they done with them?

is it tinubu that appointed the legislators in the national assembly?

why are they not carrying out their constitutional defined responsibilities?

what is "true federal structure" and what is being "restructured"?
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Konquest: 9:09pm On Jul 18, 2025
Putindbutt:
https://businessday.ng/politics/article/constitution-review-north-shifting-from-status-quo-to-alignment-for-true-federalism/?amp
Federalism is federalism. There's NOTHING called "TRUE Federalism." Some people make that mistake when communicating including some members of the media.

The BusinessDay article on the constitutional amendments is largely in order though.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SouthSouth1914: 9:18pm On Jul 18, 2025
SmartPolician:
Oga, rest! NASS reviewed and amended the constitution under every president that came in. It didn't start with Tinubu and won't end with him. The problem is that they always leave the key issues untouched.

If Tinubu can actually influence the outcome of this constitution amendment, we want to have state police and resource controlled by states before the next general election. After all, Tinubu has always called for true federalism.
Someone who once said he doesn’t believe in “One Nigeria” ? He can talk big, but no balls.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Bankkym: 9:23pm On Jul 18, 2025
Racoon:
The North and SW have forced Nigeria into that precipice where the continued survival of this forced and failed contraption of a country must either go with true federalism in a federated system, willful disintegrate or undergo self implosion
The last time I checked it was aguiyi ironsi that abolished the regions and made a unitary military rule. Decree No 34 . We can’t forget . Use your google and type Decree 34
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Konquest: 9:26pm On Jul 18, 2025
Putindbutt:
A lot of you here are just noisemakers, other than insults, you have nothing else to offer than sheer ignorance. We are talking about a new constitution here. Past Pesidents signed bills into law, even Tinubu has signed bills into law but it is totally different from a new constitution which requires the approval of two third of state houses of assembly.
You did well by succinctly putting that notorious person behind the curtain where he belongs. He's one of those who is always on this NL discussion forum spewing disinformation and half-truths, yet he got 17 likes (as of the time of this post from 17 equally uninformed posters). Truly, semi-literacy is an insidious disease which slows down the advancement of any society.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Johnson5258: 9:31pm On Jul 18, 2025
You have a great instinct. I need you to educate me on how the federal government would get remittance from state and what happens to weak states? Will that not make state governors more powerful?

SmartPolician:
Oga, rest! NASS reviewed and amended the constitution under every president that came in. It didn't start with Tinubu and won't end with him. The problem is that they always leave the key issues untouched.

If Tinubu can actually influence the outcome of this constitution amendment, we want to have state police and resource controlled by states before the next general election. After all, Tinubu has always called for true federalism.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Konquest: 9:45pm On Jul 18, 2025
SouthSouth1914:

Someone who once said he doesn’t believe in “One Nigeria” ?
He can talk big, but no balls.
Let me step in to educate you here with some historical insights.

That interview the then Senator 'Bola Tinubu had with the veteran journalist Ayo Arowolo back in the late 1990s was two-pages long. It's the newspaper editor that randomly used that newspaper headline of "I don't believe in one Nigeria" meanwhile the original interview as indicated on the page 2 of the interview CLEARLY states something different.


It's the screenshot of that newspaper article that you people are circulating online and it's ONLY 1-page. The 2nd page of that FULL article which I have been fortunate to read CLEARLY states that the now President 'Bola Tinubu did NOT believe in one Nigeria as it was then constituted under the military dictatorship back in the late 1990s when that interview was conducted. If he didn't believe in the dream of a future restructured Nigeria, why did he return from forced exile in the United States (with other great men who continued the political struggle from exile in the United States and the United Kingdom) as a pro-democracy movement leader in 1999 to contest for the Gubernatorial elections in Lagos State and then led a coalition to gain Federal control of government?

You guys have to stop twisting the man's past interview comments. He NEVER said he "hated Nigeria" BUT was instead fighting for, and expressed a desire for the political restructuring of Nigeria. Period.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Gboom: 10:19pm On Jul 18, 2025
SmartPolician:
Oga, rest! NASS reviewed and amended the constitution under every president that came in. It didn't start with Tinubu and won't end with him. The problem is that they always leave the key issues untouched.

If Tinubu can actually influence the outcome of this constitution amendment, we want to have state police and resource controlled by states before the next general election. After all, Tinubu has always called for true federalism.
It's either you are ignorant of what true federalism is or you are just playing your usual opposition role in hating or criticize whatever policy this present govt is planning to adopt or adopting
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SouthSouth1914: 11:55pm On Jul 18, 2025
Konquest:
Let me step in to educate you here with some historical insights.

That interview the then Senator 'Bola Tinubu had with the veteran journalist Ayo Arowolo back in the late 1990s was two-pages long. It's the newspaper editor that randomly used that newspaper headline of "I don't believe in one Nigeria" meanwhile the original interview as indicated on the page 2 of the interview CLEARLY states something different.


It's the screenshot of that newspaper article that you people are circulating online and it's ONLY 1-page. The 2nd page of that FULL article which I have been fortunate to read CLEARLY states that the now President 'Bola Tinubu did NOT believe in one Nigeria as it was then constituted under the military dictatorship back in the late 1990s when that interview was conducted. If he didn't believe in the dream of a future restructured Nigeria, why did he return from forced exile in the United States (with other great men who continued the political struggle from exile in the United States and the United Kingdom) as a pro-democracy movement leader in 1999 to contest for the Gubernatorial elections in Lagos State and then led a coalition to gain Federal control of government?

You guys have to stop twisting the man's past interview comments. He NEVER said he "hated Nigeria" BUT was instead fighting for, and expressed a desire for the political restructuring of Nigeria. Period.
You may assume that you are more articulated than the publishers of that news. It was all in summary what Tinubu’s thought was and how he explained his own position at the time. No one is twisting anything, you are the one who is twisting the narratives in favor of him, typical of your folks.

You guys may think you are smart, but no one is smart! You are all enjoying foolery together, just haven’t been able to call a spade, a spade. Everyone has his/her opinion, but you should be able to take responsibilities when the time arises. Continue in your business of changing narratives!

Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Konquest: 12:17am On Jul 19, 2025
SouthSouth1914:
You may assume that you are more articulated than the publishers of that news. It was all in summary what Tinubu’s thought was and how he explained his own position at the time. No one is twisting anything, you are the one who is twisting the narratives in favor of him, typical of your folks.

You guys may think you are smart, but no one is smart! You are all enjoying foolery together, just haven’t been able to call a spade, a spade. Everyone has his/her opinion, but you should be able to take responsibilities when the time arises. Continue in your business of changing narratives!
I voted during the June 12 1993 Presidential elections and that's the last time I ever voted on Nigerian soil. As a Diasporan, I have no time for primordial any political or ethnic sentiments and your baseless primordial innuendoes here. I still keep tabs of events in Nigeria because that's the Motherland.

Second, I ONLY stepped in to correct some of your historically incorrect assumptions about that interview Tinubu had with Ayo Arowolo which I was fortunate to have read back in the 1990s. I remember that this is how the veteran journalists Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor both got imprisoned in 1984 under a military decree
during the military government of General Muhammadu Buhari due to the FACT that the then news Editor of the Guardian newspaper subjectively and unilaterally altered and changed the title of the ORIGINAL story that Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor filed to the newspaper Editor. This was what got both men into serious trouble with the government when the article was finally published and they got jailed for the misleading headline. Nduka Irabor actually granted an interview years later stating what really happened. Period.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by owunabastard: 5:39pm On Jul 19, 2025
iwaeda:
North is just playing along to avert wahala. What is behind 6 is much more than 7. grin grin grin angry
to be honest that's why I want Tinubu to be there till 2031
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SouthSouth1914: 6:11pm On Jul 19, 2025
Konquest:
I voted during the June 12 1993 Presidential elections and that's the last time I ever voted on Nigerian soil. As a Diasporan, I have no time for primordial any political or ethnic sentiments and your baseless primordial innuendoes here. I still keep tabs of events in Nigeria because that's the Motherland.

Second, I ONLY stepped in to correct some of your historically incorrect assumptions about that interview Tinubu had with Ayo Arowolo which I was fortunate to have read back in the 1990s. I remember that this is how the veteran journalists Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor both got imprisoned in 1984 under a military decree
during the military government of General Muhammadu Buhari due to the FACT that the then news Editor of the Guardian newspaper subjectively and unilaterally altered and changed the title of the ORIGINAL story that Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor filed to the newspaper Editor. This was what got both men into serious trouble with the government when the article was finally published and they got jailed for the misleading headline. Nduka Irabor actually granted an interview years later stating what really happened. Period.
Your ratings does not absolved you from your already perceived attack to BAT. Go read the article very well and summarize, don’t be a bull in a china shop. A word is enough for the wise, I hope
You are not otherwise. Shalom
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SouthSouth1914:
Konquest:
I voted during the June 12 1993 Presidential elections and that's the last time I ever voted on Nigerian soil. As a Diasporan, I have no time for primordial any political or ethnic sentiments and your baseless primordial innuendoes here. I still keep tabs of events in Nigeria because that's the Motherland.

Second, I ONLY stepped in to correct some of your historically incorrect assumptions about that interview Tinubu had with Ayo Arowolo which I was fortunate to have read back in the 1990s. I remember that this is how the veteran journalists Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor both got imprisoned in 1984 under a military decree
during the military government of General Muhammadu Buhari due to the FACT that the then news Editor of the Guardian newspaper subjectively and unilaterally altered and changed the title of the ORIGINAL story that Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor filed to the newspaper Editor. This was what got both men into serious trouble with the government when the article was finally published and they got jailed for the misleading headline. Nduka Irabor actually granted an interview years later stating what really happened. Period.
Your rhetoric is not only dysfunctional, it is baseless and a figment of your imagination. It is laughable to even consider cajoling the entire scenario to suit your narratives. You are pushing a false narrative backed by sentiments!

Before commenting on a public forum, try and get your facts right so you don’t sound out of place! Tunde Thompson and Nila Irabor were jailed because of an article on the “Reorganization of Nigeria’s Diplomatic Service” a political sensitive issue at the time (Los Angeles Times March 4th 1985). This does not coincide with the time Tinubu made that statement! Moreso, most of the current government supporters (You inclusive) are funny. Stay away from propaganda and correct your write up there!!

You seem to be lost on political issues back here in Nigeria and need to do a lot of research and reading too! Please concentrate on the former as you may need it!
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by gidgiddy: 10:10am On Jul 23, 2025
Putindbutt:
It will be another big legacy of President Bola Tinubu, giving us a new constitution by next year. A new 2026 constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria. Dumping the 1999 military constitution in a trashcan. Tinubu is a President with balls.
Which legacy? The same constitutional review that has been done since the 80's that changed nothing? Complete waste of time
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by Konquest: 1:54pm On Jul 25, 2025
SouthSouth1914:
Your rhetoric is not only dysfunctional, it is baseless and a figment of your imagination. It is laughable to even consider cajoling the entire scenario to suit your narratives. You are pushing a false narrative backed by sentiments!

Before commenting on a public forum, try and get your facts right so you don’t sound out of place! Tunde Thompson and Nila Irabor were jailed because of an article on the “Reorganization of Nigeria’s Diplomatic Service” a political sensitive issue at the time (Los Angeles Times March 4th 1985). This does not coincide with the time Tinubu made that statement! Moreso, most of the current government supporters (You inclusive) are funny. Stay away from propaganda and correct your write up there!!

You seem to be lost on political issues back here in Nigeria and need to do a lot of research and reading too! Please concentrate on the former as you may need it!
Look, do NOT twist my well-intended post and insult my sensibilities here. What kind of ridiculously "wild innuendos" are you typing?

Your reading and comprehension skill is VERY pedestrian to me due to your confirmation bias and knee-jerk reactions to a very simple post! If you had taken the time to properly read my posts (which had NO ill-intentions towards you or anyone)
, you wouldn't have blundered with your confirmation bias. I told you that the last time I ever voted on Nigerian soil as an adult was back on June 12 1993, so what the hell do you mean by me being a "government supporter?" That's a total B.S. submission from you as I'm not a supporter of any political party over there in Nigeria. I'm simply interested in good governance all over the world as that helps to smoothen out things for the benefit of all folks along the social ladder!

Go through my original posts again which was very CLEAR. I NEVER at anytime in any of my posts state that the jailing of Nduka Irabor and Tunde Thompson in 1984 under Decree 4 by the military dictatorship (which was well reported in the major electronic and print media which I read back in 1984) "coincided with or took place" when 'Bola Tinubu had that interview with Ayo Arowolo in the late 1990s. I was already an adult when the duo of Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor went to jail in the 1984 and only used that 1984 episode as a context in my post.

Do NOT quote me again because I totally detest having convos with anyone who CANNOT grasp simple FACTS written in text. My conversation ends here and now. Period.
Re: Constitution Review: North Shifting From Status Quo, To True Federalism by SouthSouth1914: 4:46pm On Jul 25, 2025
Konquest:
Look, do NOT twist my well-intended post and insult my sensibilities here. What kind of ridiculously "wild innuendos" are you typing?

Your reading and comprehension skill is VERY pedestrian to me due to your confirmation bias and knee-jerk reactions to a very simple post! If you had taken the time to properly read my posts (which had NO ill-intentions towards you or anyone)
, you wouldn't have blundered with your confirmation bias. I told you that the last time I ever voted on Nigerian soil as an adult was back on June 12 1993, so what the hell do you mean by me being a "government supporter?" That's a total B.S. submission from you as I'm not a supporter of any political party over there in Nigeria. I'm simply interested in good governance all over the world as that helps to smoothen out things for the benefit of all folks along the social ladder!

Go through my original posts again which was very CLEAR. I NEVER at anytime in any of my posts state that the jailing of Nduka Irabor and Tunde Thompson in 1984 under Decree 4 by the military dictatorship (which was well reported in the major electronic and print media which I read back in 1984) "coincided with or took place" when 'Bola Tinubu had that interview with Ayo Arowolo in the late 1990s. I was already an adult when the duo of Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor went to jail in the 1984 and only used that 1984 episode as a context in my post.

Do NOT quote me again because I totally detest having convos with anyone who CANNOT grasp simple FACTS written in text. My conversation ends here and now. Period.
You are just a total waste of time. You create your own reality and live in it. Thats your own problem, but this is a public forum, and everyone (Well meaning Nigerians) has the right to detest, contest and criticize those who push false narratives to suit their agenda.
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