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cr7lomo:
All those arranged awards ...so according to ur logic , modeic is better than xavi and iniesta cos he has balon dor that iniesta and xavi don't...pr canavaro is better than Maldini cos he has balon dor ... or Beyonce is better than MJ cos she has more Grammy... or tems is better than Tiwa ....

That champions league is perfect place for comparison for both....cos they both played for top clubs and the tournament is diverse with all best
players and teams playing in that tournament...hoke an away games , to test the best abilities of teams and players...and ronaldo outshines Messi... WC is not accurate enough...cos klose that's a world cup winner and top scorer isn't even. Among top best 100 players of all time.... the team u represent goes a long way I determining trophies to win .... Ronaldo de Lima won 2 World cups but cudnt win champions league cos he played for an inter milan that dint have a chance , while he joined a Madrid that wads fading off ... Rivaldo won the UCl cos he joined Milan , just like Zidane and Figo joined Madrid to win UCL ... if both ronaldo and messi played for teams like valencia and spurs...they wudnt have won one UCL , despite their talents and attributes... if Messi were Colombian he wudnt hv won any world cup .. and if ronaldo were German or Italian or French, he wud hv won one

Your defence of Ronaldo is pedantic and meaningless
You just ended up shooting yourself in the foot and its amusing you don't see the hypocrisy in your self.
Answer this, if ronaldo played in southampton or sunderland, would he score 50 goals a season or win 4 UCLs
Will he play with Modric or benzema or kroos or bale in Sunderland or Southampton
Or if he played with poland or luxemborg would he have a euros or nation league

CorperKola:
Your defence of Ronaldo is pedantic and meaningless
You just ended up shooting yourself in the foot and its amusing you don't see the hypocrisy in your self.
Answer this, if ronaldo played in southampton or sunderland, would he score 50 goals a season or win 4 UCLs
Will he play with Modric or benzema or kroos or bale in Sunderland or Southampton

My point is that u need to play for a top team to win trophies.... Messi was disgraced out of world club cup ... cos he represented inter miami ... Ronaldo hasn't won WC simply cos he's Portuguese....miroslav Klose or Giroud are not even half as good as lewandowski, suarez or halaand.... unfortunately lewa suarez and halaand will never win the world cup cos of the country they represent which they have no option... but klose and Giroud that are not even half as good are world cup winners cos they rep countries that are world cup favorites. ..same with Messi and Argentina ...

cr7lomo:
My point is that u need to play for a top team to win trophies.... Messi was disgraced out of world club cup ... cos he represented inter miami ... Ronaldo hasn't won WC simply cos he's Portuguese....miroslav Klose or Giroud are not even half as good as lewandowski, suarez or halaand.... unfortunately lewa suarez and halaand will never win the world cup cos of the country they represent which they have no option... but klose and Giroud that are not even half as good are world cup winners cos they rep countries that are world cup favorites. ..same with Messi and Argentina ...

You still dont get my point, we have to make the comparison as things are not by saying this is unfair or flawed
There is no perfect comaprison, comparisons are always flawed and unfair.
The moment you start saying this and dat you have invalidated your own point because the same points also apply to the Ronaldo compared to hazard or Marco reus or whoever. That was the point i brought out. Comparisons are made on what happened or reality.
How many leagie titles does he have
Any notable achievement needs factors that are not totally within your control no matter how good you are
Whether goals, assists or trophies even successful dribbles depends on the quality of the defenders you
face
Goals depend on the quality of your teammates and quality opposition, thats why the points in european golden shoe for danish league is 1.5 which is lower than epl which is 2
Trophies also depend on same things
For example the world cup that you said is not accurate enough, the factors that you say make it not accurate like your teammates also apply to ucl and laliga
If everybody could choose their ideal teammates then a lot of people will be divided into 20
How many league titles does ronaldo have ??

Comparisons are inherently flawed and unfair but we still need them to entertain ourselves.

KnowAll:
And what we call “ sangalo” in Nigeria bicycle kicks that is another Pelé move.

You're close.....'Sangalo' that we all grew up saying was indeed done by Pele's teammate and captain of his WC team '70, Mario Zagallo.
He played that style and Naija people, unable to call his name properlly, called his bicycle kick style: "sangallo" .

cr7lomo:
Okocha never dribbled half of any team....na the lies wey them throw in the 90s when he was at frankfurt ..but youtube done cast am

go and watch your YouTube again or buy the documentary video called the best of Okocha, CD, you go see am for men that used to push wheel barrow. He dribble 4 to 5 players, if I stumble on the video from YouTube, I will try and download it and post it here. Thanks

Wainey:
I don't lie, I say the truth, it doesn't mean I am downgrading Jayjay.
I only said Messi is better

We all know Messi is better, but you said it like in all ramification. I can boldy said it that Cronaldo is better in aerial ball, nodding, shot power and athlete's than Messi, I know some people will still argue with this and he has the physique

Bukola94:
go and watch your YouTube again or buy the documentary video called the best of Okocha, CD, you go see am for men that used to push wheel barrow. He dribble 4 to 5 players, if I stumble on the video from YouTube, I will try and download it and post it here. Thanks

Oga ..we don watch the video...he never did ....

cr7lomo:
Oga ..we don watch the video...he never did ....

He did, when I come across the video again, I will post it here

The question of who is the best football player among Messi, Ronaldo, and Pelé is subjective and generates endless debate among football fans. While all three are considered legends, there's no single, universally accepted answer. Ultimately, it comes down to individual preferences and the criteria used to evaluate players. So President Donald Trump is entitled to his own opinion, and so am I as well.

Trump’s pick for the greatest footballer of all time is Pelé, a legend who really made an impact in the U.S. with the Cosmos. It’s interesting to hear him reflect on the earlier days of soccer in America and Pelé’s role in inspiring the sport here. Definitely a throwback to some iconic moments!

Trump doesn’t watch soccer. He mentioned the first name to come to mind.