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obedience4:
That's a good product, very fancy!!

Remind me again which countries product dominates the laptop markets.

Give us the Top five players in the laptop industry

obedience4:
OK! Ok! Ok!, the pura is quite expensive i have to admit that, only a .... will buy that nonsense.. anyway apple isn't in the foldable business, Samsung is dorminat there.

Do you think at all, why will Apple move its business from China, there is cheap labour in asia as a continent, most of apple products are now being made in Vietnam, even the Apple boss said they were looking to move some manufacturing capacity from China to neighbours like India and Vietnam, Asia will always been a manufacturing hub because of cheap labour, and less strict workers protection laws.

Don't get us wrong here, phones being assembled in china brings the cost down, but to interpret that as the reason for Apple's unmatched dominace is wrong, Nobody buys an iPhone and starts looking at the place it was manufactured, iPhone is being used becuse it is a quality product period

We have been here many times, Someone once said Temu will soon dislodge the e-merchant gaint Amazon, Huawei was touted to take down apple, and just recently it was deepseek.

P.s why will Apple make it OS open source, will you share your secrets with me??

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Masterviolence:
This disobedient boy again.
🤦🤦🤦

All this incessant ranting stems from your inability to accept the reality that the U.S. lags behind in certain areas. To you, the United States is the alpha and omega of the world, but to others, it is simply another highly developed and impressive nation, standing alongside countries like China, Sweden, the Netherlands, Russia, and others in a competitive global landscape.

One individual made a valid observation, noting that Apple's dominance particularly that of the iPhone is closely tied to the fact that it is manufactured in China. Your reaction to that simple point was disproportionate and emotional. But is the statement inaccurate? Absolutely not.

While I firmly believe Apple products, especially the iPhone, would have still been remarkable in today’s market, they would not have achieved the same scale or level of ubiquity had they been manufactured in the U.S. alone. And this isn’t just about cheaper labor, although one can only imagine how astronomically high the cost of a U.S.-manufactured iPhone would be.

Apple’s CEO, Tim Cook, addressed this matter directly:

"There is a confusion about China. And let me at least give you my opinion. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labour costs. I am not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being a low labour cost country many years ago."

He continues:

"The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location, and the type of skill it is,"
Tim Cook noted that the product it makes requires "really advanced tooling and the precision that you have to have in tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art."
"And the tooling skill is very deep here. You know, in the US, you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and I am not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields. It's that vocational expertise is very, very deep here," he added.

In other words, without China’s unparalleled manufacturing capabilities and concentrated technical expertise, Apple simply would not be the global powerhouse it is today.

Even Elon Musk the richest man on Earth and someone deeply familiar with the inner workings of global manufacturing has publicly agreed with Tim Cook’s assessment. When two of the most influential business figures in the world recognize the crucial role China plays in modern industry, who are you, an anonymous and evidently uninformed individual, to claim superior insight?

You've embarrassed yourself repeatedly in this thread. Supporting the U.S. doesn't require you to be blind to its limitations or to abandon your sense of composure and dignity in debate. Learn to champion your lord and master (u.s) with balance and class.

shoodboi2:
When Iran copies the US, it is a copy or reversed engineered drone. But when the US copies Iran, it becomes a version and not a copy.

It is the same way you guys will say Israelis were killed. But when it comes to Palestinians, you say they died.

When the US invades Vietnam or Iraq, it is the Vietnam or Iraqi war, but when Russia invades Ukraine, it is Putin's war.

When others attack Israel, it is called an aggression, but when Israel attacks others, it is a preemptive strike.

When Palestinian resistance abduct Israelis, they are hostages. But when Israeli soldiers abduct Palestinians, they are prisoners.

Keep playing your word games.

While you are working overtime to claim the Shahed 136 was made with western parts, your white masters are also working overtime to claim the US copycat, the Lucas, is based on a certain US-made FLM 136 target drone (and not the Shahed).

Funny things is the even that FLM 136 is another copy of the Shahed. They even copied it down to the name. Like WTF? The West has really fallen.

You have already listed the Shahed 136 as being made from parts from everywhere across the world except Iran. We can all see where this is going.

Within the next few weeks and months, you all will rewrite history to claim it was Iran that copied the US and not US that copied Iran. It's your way

shoodboi2:
Teacher: 23jerryking, why did you copy Mullah's homework?

23jerryking: I didn't copy sir. I just created my version.

😂😂😂

Appleyard:
We call it intellectual selective conditioning.

Masterviolence:
This disobedient boy again.
🤦🤦🤦

All this incessant ranting stems from your inability to accept the reality that the U.S. lags behind in certain areas. To you, the United States is the alpha and omega of the world, but to others, it is simply another highly developed and impressive nation, standing alongside countries like China, Sweden, the Netherlands, Russia, and others in a competitive global landscape.

One individual made a valid observation, noting that Apple's dominance particularly that of the iPhone is closely tied to the fact that it is manufactured in China. Your reaction to that simple point was disproportionate and emotional. But is the statement inaccurate? Absolutely not.

While I firmly believe Apple products, especially the iPhone, would have still been remarkable in today’s market, they would not have achieved the same scale or level of ubiquity had they been manufactured in the U.S. alone. And this isn’t just about cheaper labor, although one can only imagine how astronomically high the cost of a U.S.-manufactured iPhone would be.

Apple’s CEO, Tim Cook, addressed this matter directly:

"There is a confusion about China. And let me at least give you my opinion. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labour costs. I am not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being a low labour cost country many years ago."

He continues:

"The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location, and the type of skill it is,"
Tim Cook noted that the product it makes requires "really advanced tooling and the precision that you have to have in tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art."
"And the tooling skill is very deep here. You know, in the US, you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and I am not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields. It's that vocational expertise is very, very deep here," he added.

In other words, without China’s unparalleled manufacturing capabilities and concentrated technical expertise, Apple simply would not be the global powerhouse it is today.

Even Elon Musk the richest man on Earth and someone deeply familiar with the inner workings of global manufacturing has publicly agreed with Tim Cook’s assessment. When two of the most influential business figures in the world recognize the crucial role China plays in modern industry, who are you, an anonymous and evidently uninformed individual, to claim superior insight?

You've embarrassed yourself repeatedly in this thread. Supporting the U.S. doesn't require you to be blind to its limitations or to abandon your sense of composure and dignity in debate. Learn to champion your lord and master (u.s) with balance and class.

WritterNg:
🤡 🤡 🇺🇦 🤡 🤡

Masterviolence:
This disobedient boy again.
🤦🤦🤦

All this incessant ranting stems from your inability to accept the reality that the U.S. lags behind in certain areas. To you, the United States is the alpha and omega of the world, but to others, it is simply another highly developed and impressive nation, standing alongside countries like China, Sweden, the Netherlands, Russia, and others in a competitive global landscape.

One individual made a valid observation, noting that Apple's dominance particularly that of the iPhone is closely tied to the fact that it is manufactured in China. Your reaction to that simple point was disproportionate and emotional. But is the statement inaccurate? Absolutely not.

While I firmly believe Apple products, especially the iPhone, would have still been remarkable in today’s market, they would not have achieved the same scale or level of ubiquity had they been manufactured in the U.S. alone. And this isn’t just about cheaper labor, although one can only imagine how astronomically high the cost of a U.S.-manufactured iPhone would be.

Apple’s CEO, Tim Cook, addressed this matter directly:

"There is a confusion about China. And let me at least give you my opinion. The popular conception is that companies come to China because of low labour costs. I am not sure what part of China they go to, but the truth is China stopped being a low labour cost country many years ago."

He continues:

"The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location, and the type of skill it is,"
Tim Cook noted that the product it makes requires "really advanced tooling and the precision that you have to have in tooling and working with the materials that we do are state of the art."
"And the tooling skill is very deep here. You know, in the US, you could have a meeting of tooling engineers, and I am not sure we could fill the room. In China, you could fill multiple football fields. It's that vocational expertise is very, very deep here," he added.

In other words, without China’s unparalleled manufacturing capabilities and concentrated technical expertise, Apple simply would not be the global powerhouse it is today.

Even Elon Musk the richest man on Earth and someone deeply familiar with the inner workings of global manufacturing has publicly agreed with Tim Cook’s assessment. When two of the most influential business figures in the world recognize the crucial role China plays in modern industry, who are you, an anonymous and evidently uninformed individual, to claim superior insight?

You've embarrassed yourself repeatedly in this thread. Supporting the U.S. doesn't require you to be blind to its limitations or to abandon your sense of composure and dignity in debate. Learn to champion your lord and master (u.s) with balance and class.

obedience4:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You think it by scribbling your epistles of nonsense, save your scribbles for your audience not me.


I just showed the you the iPhone building process, only a handful of component are being made in China, The rest the majority being made outside of [b]China[/b]even the company that handles the assembled part is not even Chinese, but a Taiwanese Foxconn.


You expect Tim Cook, a man who is enjoying the cheap labour that china has to offer to be critical of China?? Why is Apple moving to Vietnam?? do Vietnam also have the ability to fill 2,000 football fields??.

So please explain how the Chinese being so good how come a foreign company producing a foreign product using a American Chipset, also using an American operating system is dominating the phone industry when the Chinese have the ability to fill 1 million football fields with skillful individuals.


feed your propaganda to your friends not me

amadivv:
.This were thinks everything is about propaganda like his mentors he is worshiping.

obedience4:
[i]OK! Ok! Ok!, the pura is quite expensive i have to admit that,

only a .... will buy that nonsense

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WritterNg:
⚡Israel is conducting negotiations with Hamas for the first time regarding the possibility of ending the war.

WritterNg:
⚡Israel is conducting negotiations with Hamas for the first time regarding the possibility of ending the war.

WritterNg:
⚡A single Iranian missile left about 2,000 Israeli residents of Bat Yam homeless, and will likely require the demolition of 27 buildings -Ynet reports

Kingsnairaland:
Russia launched a massive attack on Ukraine overnight into Saturday with hundreds of drones, killing at least one person, part of a stepped-up bombing campaign that has dashed hopes for a breakthrough in efforts to end the more than 3-year-old war.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy posted on X that Russia fired over 300 drones, along with more than 30 cruise missiles.

One person died in the Black Sea port city of Odesa, which was hit with more than 20 drones and a missile, Mayor Hennadii Trukhanov wrote on Telegram, while five people were rescued when a fire broke out in a residential high-rise building.

According to Zelenskyy, six other people were wounded in the attack on Odesa, including a child, and critical infrastructure was damaged in Ukraine’s northeastern Sumy region.

The Ukrainian president also thanked international leaders “who understand how important it is to promptly implement our agreements” aimed at boosting Ukraine’s defense capabilities, including joint weapons production, drone manufacturing and the supply of air defense systems.

Russia has been intensifying its long-range attacks on Ukrainian cities. It now often batters Ukraine with more drones in a single night than it did during some entire months in 2024, and analysts say the barrages are likely to escalate. On July 8, Russia unleashed more than 700 drones — a record.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drones-odesa-zelenskyy-621c5e482c5f5cb38d56b4be0c59d622?

amadivv:
. Spare me the performative angst, your entire argument hinged on misinterpreting Cook's words while ignoring why Apple is America in the first place.let educate you Tim cook praised China manufacturing efficiency? Congratulations you discovered supply chain exist but let's quote what he actually said in full context. "The USA is unmatched in innovation, China supplies labour and scale, America supplies the brains.pole trillion dollar value comes from it's California designed chips,software and ecosystem_ not shenzhen factories without cupatino those "football fields of engineers" would be manufacturing flip phones .you parade musk and cook as proof;your idols literally endorsed American supremacy.you rant about facing reality but avoiding hard truth_ without U.s p/design China's factories are empty shells,Russian, Sweden and Netherlands combined does not match USA , where is their Apple?. You are confusing assembly line with ownership .Obedience was right all along on the contrally you and your Co's are the ones embaracing una selves.

amadivv:
.This were thinks everything is about propaganda like his mentors he is worshiping.

FoolishBoy419:
You don't need to use two accounts, Mr. Obedience 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LordAdam16:
Israel is looking at a hot conflict with Lebanon, Yemen, Iran, and possibly Syria in the near future.
Hamas guerilla warfare will become more effective as Israel extends itself.
We saw that since the start of the 12 day war.
Hamas has been resurgent. In the last 2 weeks, they've even conducted operations to capture IDF soldiers.

Ending the war is still a longshot.
Largely because Hamas, once open to a different coalition administering Gaza, are now insistent on not disarming.
The global isolation of Israel, the Yemenis being indomitable, and the existing state of war with Iran has given them immense leverage.

-Lord

Floky215:
What's the point? this is war and it has been fought, won and lost and one side is already accusing the other of using djinn, ghost and juju to fight them...