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| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Lucifyre: 8:21pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:🤣🤣🤣 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 8:22pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Mek una leave my thread 😂😂 Una no well at all 😅 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Lucifyre: ![]() |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Lucifyre: 8:30pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
PulsingPurple:I'm out 😅, my aim here's done. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by budaatum: 8:35pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Everyday247:I am Buddhist. Zen, to be exact. Some believe in gods while some know gods are human creations. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Lucifyre:Better! At least you now know that you can't convince any right thinking person to believe what you called BLACK by bringing RED. ![]() |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:40pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
PulsingPurple:They think believers shouldn't have sense of humor when you are serious they turn to jokes so i often pay them back in their own coin! ![]() |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 9:00pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
budaatum:Wow! Good to know. Happy birthday 🎂🎈 btw |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 9:13pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Lucifyre:You try small sha. 😅 A for effort |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 9:19pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Normally. 😅 Sha rest small, you sef don too drag person for this platform |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by budaatum: 4:33am On Jul 21, 2025 |
Everyday247:And how did you figure it's my birthday? |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18am On Jul 21, 2025 |
PulsingPurple:I don't drag anyone but can't be silenced by anyone, if you say you're not interested in what i'm saying off i go but trying to outsmart me won't work! ![]() Some have noticed: Nnamdipapa: SeniorMan715: Questionnaires: Kingsempires: Questionnaires: Sojourner2000:I don't like disturbing anyone but never should an atheist think he is smarter than me that will never ever work so it's better if they don't quote me at all! ![]() |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 6:42am On Jul 21, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:And rightly so, maybe I should also add my praises/observations too. For the consistency. I don't like disturbing anyone but never should an atheist think he is smarter than me that will never ever work so it's better if they don't quote me at all!Omoo, we move. 😅 The whole idea is that people will pick a style of argument where they think they'll have the upper hand. Once you start playing a bit wider than their expectations or introducing twists they didn't anticipate, the whole conversation crashes, they convert it to sentiments, redundant lines, misquotes, insults, jokes, etc etc. Most of the regulars here are still guilty sha, even you sef. 😏 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 6:56am On Jul 21, 2025 |
budaatum:It was prophesied that it'll be yesterday 😏 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Jul 21, 2025 |
PulsingPurple:The highlighted is true! I joined Nairaland to help interested ones know that it's possible to find the one and only true religion so once i discover you are not interested there is nothing more to discuss with you! Most feel religion is of no practical sense because they are into false religion so i try to reason with them that falsehood is the direct opposite of truth so there can't be falsehood if truth doesn't exist! ![]() ![]() |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 10:08am On Jul 21, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Well well well... We sha continue trying till end of these times and everyone finally know the actual TRUTHS. Goodluck on your quests. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by LordReed(m): 10:48am On Jul 21, 2025 |
Lucifyre:I want to see his reaction when he learns that infraRED light is not actually red. LMAO. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by budaatum: 2:06pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Everyday247:Well, thanks tons. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Lucifyre: 6:25pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
LordReed:Or that an airplane's BLACKbox is not black. 😄 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by LordReed(m): 6:26pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21pm On Jul 21, 2025*. Modified: 7:36pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Lucifyre:The same thing applies to the title "GOD" You don't just stick to what you've heard in the past and block your ears avoiding any explanation simply because you just feel nothing reasonable could come out of it. So someone who has heard of BLACK as a color will also block his or her ears when you mention blackhole or blackbox insisting on the color name shunning whatever you want to say! ![]()
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| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Dtruthspeaker: 8:06pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Everyday247:You must be 6. If not you would have remembered how many times you heard people speak gibberish and people thrashed them compared to the time that you heard even (those dirty naked people we see in the road/market) speak a strange language yet you knew it was a dialect. Everyday247:Thank you for saying the Truth that you are above the Law in your house And yes, if you want people in your house to rape and murder, you can command it, after all it is proof of the kind of person you are. However, in this House which belongs to God, God has already commanded that a rapist and murderer should be killed upon being justly found guilty. And that is why all over the world there isn't any place where rape and murder is not condemned. So since, presently as it stands, morals is a about good, then God is Good. But as you see, Wike, Trump, Putin, Kim Jong, Biya are not under their law, you can also see that their laws are a reflection of them. But without going too far from the point, the record shows that you admit that a Landlord is above his law. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 9:57pm On Jul 21, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:That's the reason for the test. You're implying that you can tell the difference between unknown languages and gibberish. So i was to give you a test to see if you can really differentiate between the two. Thank you for saying the Truth that you are above the Law in your houseThanks for the bolded. It's good that you are repulsed by the thought of the house owner permitting acts such as murder and rape and then go on to claim that your god will never do such a thing. Maybe you should go and read the parts of the bible where a young girl was sacrificed to Yahweh in order to win a war and the part where Yahweh commanded his people to commit genocides against other people, including against their young, sick and elderly or the parts where Yahweh told his people that they should steal other people's lands. When Yahweh commanded genocide. 👇 1 Samuel 15:3: Now go and strike the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. Deuteronomy 2:34: So we captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors. Deuteronomy 3:6: We devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children, just as we did to King Sihon of Heshbon. Joshua 6:21: They devoted to destruction by the edge of the sword all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys. Joshua 8:25: And all who fell that day, both men and women, were 12,000, all the people of Ai. And many more. When Yahweh accepted human sacrifice 👇 Jephthah's daughter was sacrificed to Yahweh in order to win a war in judges 11 When Yahweh commanded the stealing of land. 👇 An example is the promise land. What i was trying to demonstrate with the house owner permitting murder and rape because he's the lawmaker is that Yahweh is EXACTLY the same as the house owner. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Dtruthspeaker: 9:08am On Jul 22, 2025 |
Everyday247:Since you already knew the reason that means you yourself have already been catching gibberish and languages which is exactly my point. Everyday247:Thank God you appreciate that all over the world we are all abhorrent of these things which clearly means that God has already fore prepared us to be all soldiers against these things commanding us to kill them as we already feel like doing when we see them. So clearly, God is good and has supported morals. Secondly Permitting is not the same as commanding, Meanwhile, God did more than that and clearly commanded that murderers and rapists should be killed. So case closed. And the only thing that remains is for you to understand the rubbish the. Veels L you raise up. Everyday247:Did God command them to do so? Everyday247:You know Boko haram and bandits have children, sick and elderly people, yet you rejoice when FG bombs out, and takes their land, why? And since fg did that have you ever accused fg of genocide? Everyday247:At least you appreciate the God did not ask Jephthah to do this kind of thing and Jephthah could have done other things that were good. But, if you had paid attention you would have seen that God saw Jephthah's bad mind and that is why He punished Jephthah by turning the situation against him as we say here "God don catch you". So here, we see God doing Justice by serving Jephthah the fruits of his wick3333.... Then secondly, Did you not read that her friends went to the temple to visit her? The sacrifice God took was for her to serve in His temple, like the Levites. So, no problem here. Everyday247:And this where I remind you that I said it first, in proving to you 1) that God is above The Law. 2) And that The present Laws that we is called Morality in this House called the world is what He gave and commanded and set everyone to be natural enforce those commands. Which we see that all over it is condemned but rather than kill rapists and murders, the same murderers who are the same atheists who have murdered their way into ruling people by threatening them with murder calling themselves FG/politicians have changed it to imprisonment, where people have been calling for death and castration, which we know God will uphold. But, you will not see that this. However, the point here is that you finally agreed me on this. So the only issue is those rubbish accusations of genocide and shi. of which I always ask FG genocides Boko haram and bandits and kidnappers and armed robbers and you rejoice and praise them and have never accused them of genocide, why? |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Dtruthspeaker: 9:29am On Jul 22, 2025 |
PulsingPurple:Very accurate description of what atheists do when they are caught and cornered! |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 11:45am On Jul 22, 2025 |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 11:46am On Jul 22, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:okay then since you say you can tell the difference, which of these languages are gibberish? 👇 1. Tikorvu lekha shaynoral Thank God you appreciate that all over the world we are all abhorrent of these things which clearly means that God has already fore prepared us to be all soldiers against these things commanding us to kill them as we already feel like doing when we see them.Firstly, the bolded is just you doing word play. What's the difference between a commander "commanding" his army to commit commit genocide and he "permitting" his army to commit genocide? Also here are explicit verses where Yahweh commanded them to commit genocides and steal lands 👇 Deuteronomy 20 verse 16 to 18 Did God command them to do so?Jephthah made a vow to Yahweh that if Yahweh gave him victory, he would sacrifice the first person who came out of his house as a burnt offering to Yahweh. And when he got his war victory, he sacrificed his daughter in judges 11 verse 39. You know Boko haram and bandits have children, sick and elderly people, yet you rejoice when FG bombs out, and takes their land, why?So what you are saying here is that Yahweh, FG and the house owner are the same because they all kill children etc. At least you appreciate the God did not ask Jephthah to do this kind of thing and Jephthah could have done other things that were good.Read judges 11 verse 39. She was sacrificed as a burnt offering to Yahweh in exchange for the war victory he gave Jephthah. Yahweh did not punish him for anything. And this where I remind you that I said it first, in proving to youWe are essentially saying the same thing here. The original question is was whether the gods are above or under moral laws, and you said that they are above moral laws. So i gave the ethical dilemma of the house owner example. Just as the house owner is above his own laws, and can change them to suit his mood at the moment. Yahweh is also the same as the house owner. He can say that genocide, theft, murder etc, is okay today and not okay tomorrow. If Yahweh say "go and kill millions" then the act ok because morality is being defined as "whatever Yahweh commands" according to you. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Dtruthspeaker: 12:37pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Everyday247:What is the point when you have already shown that like you made out the differences? Then secondly, when you caught the fakes, was it not when they were vocally speaking to you in your bodily presence just like the disciples spoke on that day? Did they "write it" on Nairaland or anywhere? Everyday247:Now you are trying to change the post. It is you who is changing post to word play. The meaning of commanding and permitting is very clear. Which is why you did not say commanding in the first place but went on to try hiding under the word "permitting". As you pretend not to know that persons have been accused of permitting when in fact they did not give any permission.. Everyday247:Also here are explicit verses where Yahweh commanded them to commit genocides and steal lands 👇[/quote]Jephthah made a vow to Yahweh that if Yahweh gave him victory, he would sacrifice the first person who came out of his house as a burnt offering to Yahweh. And when he got his war victory, he sacrificed his daughter in judges 11 verse 39. So what you are saying here is that Yahweh, FG and the house owner are the same because they all kill children etc. Read judges 11 verse 39. She was sacrificed as a burnt offering to Yahweh in exchange for the war victory he gave Jephthah. Yahweh did not punish him for anything. We are essentially saying the same thing here. The original question is was whether the gods are above or under moral laws, and you said that they are above moral laws. So i gave the ethical dilemma of the house owner example. Just as the house owner is above his own laws, and can change them to suit his mood at the moment. Yahweh is also the same as the house owner. He can say that genocide, theft, murder etc, is okay today and not okay tomorrow. If Yahweh say "go and kill millions" then the act ok because morality is being defined as "whatever Yahweh commands" according to you.[/quote] |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by PulsingPurple(op): 12:39pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:We're only human, pride won't let us... 😅 Meanwhile I'm looking for one serious atheist to come and continue a conversation that one of their friends couldn't hold together. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 12:44pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:Yeah I'm no longer interested in what else you have to say. Your outburst on the other thread is a big red flag. Chances are if we were conversing in person, you'd have probably tried to strangled me. I'm out. |
| Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Dtruthspeaker: 1:24pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Everyday247:What is the point when you have already shown that like you made out the differences? Then secondly, when you caught the fakes, was it not when they were vocally speaking to you in your bodily presence just like the disciples spoke on that day? Did they "write it" on Nairaland or anywhere? Everyday247:Now you are trying to change the post. It is you who is changing post to word play. The meaning of commanding and permitting is very clear. Which is why you did not say commanding in the first place but went on to try hiding under the word "permitting". As you pretend not to know that persons have been accused of permitting when in fact they did not give any permission.. Everyday247:Why are you repeating yourself? Have I not already asked you why you rejoice when FG genocides Boko haram and bandits and kidnappers and armed robbers? Whichyou dodged! Therefore you know that you are talking rubbish here if not you would have shouted before today that Fg is committing genocide. But rather we see you praising fg and looking forward to more genociding. So, you are talking rubbish here. Everyday247:Why are you repeating yourself! You are only confirming what I said on the point which is that God did command him to do this. So the rest you are saying is Off Point. (But, if your mind was not bad you would have read to see what is burnt offering and who does the burnt offering. Then you would see why the girl ended up in the temple and why her friends go visiting her there). Everyday247:It is you who saying it. Everyday247:Did you not see that he was in pain and cried and regretted when his wike... S backfired? As we say God catch am and He took away his daughter as Jephthah had planned to take someone's else's child just because they are in his house. And since God is Just who best should God take if not Jephthah's own child? So perfect just is was served, a child for child. And that is why you ignorant people stew p... moved to burnt offering in another stiew pea of not knowing what burnt offering means. Everyday247:You first did not know that. Then secondly, you failed to comprehend that if I give a moral law, then I must support that law and would be held by the fact that I gave that law against anybody who goes against that law. And God has not changed His Laws And that is why there is no ethical situation only stew pea and Wike... people speaking from there. And one more thing you would note that Christians say God and not Yahweh Because God is not Yahweh especially as he is said to be a Canaanite god, Whom God Himself ordered His chosen to destroy. But as we all know Isreal Always disobeyed God and did the opposite of what He Commanded. |
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