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|Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 10:35am On Mar 26|
By E.J. Onele
So many deluded Athiest are bashing religion and saying things like all religions (especially Christianity) are waiting for scientists to find a cure to CONVID-19 then they will thank God instead of the scientists.
First of all, some of those scientists are Christian's/Muslims/Hindu etc...
Secondly, most of the drugs you enjoy today were discovered by Christian Scientist/missionaries e.g. Penicillin.
Thirdly, The schools and Hospitals you all enjoyed were established by Christian and Muslims missionaries and I can bet you that without that you won’t even know how to pronounce “atheism ; talk more of practicing it if not for introduction of western education by those religious missionaries.
More also, religion has set a standard for law, order and justice in our contemporary society, and these so called atheist believes and uphold these laws. (if you doubt this, check the first page of Nigerian constitution).
Most Atheist will come out as Moralist saying they believe in doing the right thing and abhorring wrong doing; but some question I ask atheist are-
HOW DO YOU DEFINE WHAT IS RIGHT FROM WHAT IS WRONG
WHAT ARE THE BASIS FOR DECIDING THAT A PARTICULAR ACTION IS RIGHT
HOW DO YOU TRUST YOUR INTUITION ONLY TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT JUDGEMENT ON WHAT IS GOOD OR BAD
Although, I won’t contest the fact that religion has its disadvantages such as Terrorism, Extremism, Corruption, just to mention a few. But let’s not use the disadvantages to becloud the advantages and let’s stop using the negatives of a few individuals to judge the whole body. Meanwhile, Atheists enjoys the benefits of Religious prayers today (although they don't know it). Because of this, most of them are still alive and doing well. But with that same breath, they choose to deny God’s existence.
Conclusively, We pray and keep our hopes alive that our friends who are atheist should turn a new leaf to see and feel the essence and existence of a supernatural being (GOD) who created and tends his creation according to his Will. While my concluding questions to all atheist are:-
What has Athiesm contributed to any sphere of the world
What value has ATHEISM added to Economy, Marital life, Morals, Industrialization, Human and Capacity building, Health, Social life etc
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Eagleboney(m): 10:50am On Mar 26|
Rock on sir
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 10:51am On Mar 26|
They will soon come for my head now.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Eagleboney(m): 10:54am On Mar 26|
Jamesrock:are you talking about the Mumus, so called people that call themselves atheists on nairaland
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by kingxsamz(m): 10:54am On Mar 26|
... I'm not an atheist.
But this proves that whoever wrote this smelling crap is unintelligent.
You said scientists are muslims, Christians, Hindus. etc...now let me ask you, when those scientists want to work or make new discoveries do they call on God or call on imaginary beings?
Do they implement their religious beliefs in their work?
Have you ever heard that a scientist made any breakthrough through faith?
Now...Do you need a bible to tell you what is right and what is bad?
It's is only fools who feel that religion puts the society in Check. That without religion, social vices would be at an all time high.
Nigeria is the most religious nation in Africa, yet its citizens do not practice what their religion teach...
With your Christianity and Islam, we're still faced with daily multiple crimes committed by those who claim to be part of these religions. E.g Rape, kidnapping, ritual killing, harvesting of body organs, human trafficking, bribery, corruption. etc... I can go on and on...
Again, I'll tell you this because you and those that commented under you are ignorant, you don't read any other thing apart from your bible.
Atheism is a non belief of any god.
It's not a religious group, and as such has no mission whatsoever. Atheists are normal people like you in the society.doctors, drivers, bankers, sales men, landlords..etc...Because they don't believe in your bullcrap doesn't mean they're a religious group, and as such must contribute to the society as a group.
Every atheist contributes to the society individually , in their own way, same as the Christians, Muslims, hindus... etc...
Asking what has atheists contributed to the world is a question which is expected from a Jss2 student, unless you are one.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 11:21am On Mar 26|
Nah dem ooo... lols
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 11:22am On Mar 26|
Lols... be hot or cold or I’ll spit you out
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 11:34am On Mar 26|
Religious people are only united when it comes to attacking atheists
On a normal day,they are on each other's throats.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by StrikeBack(m): 11:38am On Mar 26|
I'll wait till the end of tomorrow
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 11:38am On Mar 26|
You’re talking in the nonsense
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 12:02pm On Mar 26|
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by kingxsamz(m): 12:15pm On Mar 26|
Oh, now, you've been hit with hard facts and points, but unable to engage in an intelligent, constructive argument so as to counter my points, because the crap you posted was a result of copy and paste.
Stop copying and pasting craps you can't defend.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jamesrock(m): 12:16pm On Mar 26|
Since you’ve concluded, it will be mundane of me to join issues with you... Stay safe if you wish to
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by malvisguy212: 8:28pm On Mar 26|
kingxsamz:the ten Commandments :is it the opinion of ten men or God?
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by hakeem4(m): 8:40pm On Mar 26|
i just find joy in tackling believers
More also, religion has set a standard for law, order and justice in our contemporary society, and these so called atheist believes and uphold these laws. (if you doubt this, check the first page of Nigerian constitution).I thought the issue on morality has been debated before?
Definitely god does not tell us what is right or what is wrong. god says it is moral to force a woman to marry her rapist. It is moral to commit genocide. it is moral to have slave
WHAT ARE THE BASIS FOR DECIDING THAT A PARTICULAR ACTION IS RIGHTour morality is innate in us. we evolved with it. let me try and break it down for you, we evolved morality so ass not to cause pain to our neighbors, I would not want to do a particular action to my neighbor so as not to see him feel bad. it is just naturally ingrained in us.
What has Atheism contributed to any sphere of the worldThe Parameters you listed below, i believe a lot of non believers have contributed towards them
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by HellVictorinho(m): 11:29pm On Mar 26|
God keeps creating viruses,deformed people,retards,dangerous bacteria,people with genetic misdemeanors,etc
Why should I keep praying to such a God?
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Fash20: 11:38pm On Mar 26|
Op copy and paste will not kill you?
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Funaki: 11:39pm On Mar 26|
You saw the "muslims, Christians, Hindus" collabo too
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by LordReed(m): 6:55am On Mar 27|
LoLz so you only came to post the rubbish you copied but not to honestly engage. LMFAO!
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 9:23pm On Mar 27|
At least themselves can't deny this positive thing evil atheism does- we bring them together
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jeromejnr(m): 9:33pm On Mar 27|
Upon say you copy this thing, you dont even know how to take out these guys.
I have already seen many loopholes in their statements. Things you can use to turn back on them.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by LordReed(m): 9:57pm On Mar 27|
Why don't you go ahead and do that.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by hakeem4(m): 10:00pm On Mar 27|
LordReed:No one should take jeromejnr serious
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by LordReed(m): 10:28pm On Mar 27|
Me I want to see the circus trick he wants to perform.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jeromejnr(m): 11:37pm On Mar 27|
So you love to tackle believers?
Please come and tackle me o.
So let's start with your statement on morality.
You presumed humans had their morality evolved (even tho there is no fact on this but I will ignore for now).
Now for there to be morality there also has to be "reason". I.e the ability to make rational decisions for the benefit of one another.
Now according to the theory of evolution, animals and humans all came from one source before there was a long process of separation into species.
Now answer me these questions:
(Now keep in mind your definition of morality has to do with things we prevent in order not to cause harm or hurt others)
1. According to the theory of evolution, since we all came from the same source i.e animals and humans, why is it, based on the statements you made above, humans are the only species capable of putting a system in place e.g. Laws, prisons, authorities e.t.c to restrain the excesses of mankind?
2. Why did humans evolve faster in reasoning faculties than other species of animals?
3. Science shows that land animal diversity was stable for millions of years before man came along, now an example will be Wolves, now we know for an example, wolves hurt and murder each other, these creatures were here before man yet they have refused to evolve their reasoning faculties to the point where they can establish laws to restrain such acts.
Why hasn't animals such as these evolved in their aspect of their reasoning process? What so special about mankind?
4. How come humans, (they said came from apes) came after millions of years and just so quickly we were able to evolve a lot faster? With our reasoning, we can adapt better and fend off all types of enemies with the weapons we create. (All animals cant fend off all their enemies.)
But wait there is a caveat here to the last question. Evolution is as a result of adaptation to the environment in order to survive. But science shows us that animals are better at surviving their environment naturally while we humans cant just survive naturally naked. We have to use our reasoning faculties for example to make clothes to survive harsh environments (animals dont need to do that). We create footwears for our feets not to hurt or get injured- but animals dont need to do that.
So from this last statement I made, If you believe in evolution and are knowledgeable, you cant dare say humans are higher evolved than other animals. But if you cant say that, Why are we then better at rational decisions? (That's the fifth question).
Now the sixth and much more complex question. ( I will save that for another post).
Please intelligently enlighten us on the questions above and do not ramble or beat around the bush like others do.
In summary, Why do we always have to keep improving ourselves with reason but animals adapt naturally to the environment they are placed without having to give thought to it?
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Inteltower: 11:58pm On Mar 27|
guy nice points
you took him to school
this unbelievers are funny.
watch and see how they will avoid those facts but so foolishly would like to sound smart and dare our faith
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by HellVictorinho(m): 12:23am On Mar 28|
Jeromejnr:Stop asking JAMB questions.
What is the function of the human brain?
Furthermore,I don't believe humans evolved from apes.
But the human twist or mankind or humans must have appeared as fully grown adult male and female species of the same kind after whatever drama must have taken place ACROSS a quite different Earth and this epic must have also led to the disappearance of some other species.
The population of mankind or the human twist has increased from tens to hundreds to thousands to millions to billions.
But there could also be a sequential fall in the population of the human twist or mankind as the drama goes on.
The drama has no beginning and it will never end.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jeromejnr(m): 12:34am On Mar 28|
Lol..so you cant answer the question. You have already created a subdivision in your camp.
Next person to try please.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by HellVictorinho(m): 12:57am On Mar 28|
Jeromejnr:Do you answer stupid questions?
I'll give you some.
1.Why do humans brush their teeth with toothpaste instead of sand?
2.Why do humans bathe with water instead of fuel?
3.Why do humans smile when they are happy or pleased or amused?
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Jeromejnr(m): 1:08am On Mar 28|
Dude! Just give up. Let another person answer.
You are just giving me openings to attack you more.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by HellVictorinho(m): 1:47am On Mar 28|
Yeah,a dumber person will consider your ludicrous questions.
|Re: Atheism And Its Myopic Reasoning by Bacteriologist(m): 2:31am On Mar 28|
So a theist FINALLY exposing atheism for what it is: *drumroll* myopic reasoning. Let's see the proof they have for their god existing this time.
Oh wait it's not a post that proves god just another pointless drivel riddles with ad-hominems and all sorts of strawman and nonsensical religious platitudes
This is going to be fun
YES. So far I haven't seen any religion including Christianity trying to develop a cure OR AT LEAST a vaccine for COVID-19.
Actually, reverse is the case, as most countries have shut down religious centres in a bid to limit the spread of the virus.
Hmm...it seems everyone including the religious are waiting for scientists to do their thing.
Then why would it be deluded to thank the health workers for their efforts if a cure is developed? Do you have a problem with giving thanks to whom it is due?
Yes, but surprisingly, these religious scientists put religion aside when they are working. They make use of the scientific method and not the religious method. It's just like they know when and how to separate fairytale from reality.
I challenge you to present any invention that was solely inspired by praying/meditating/any other religious method.
This is a very stupid analogy. A lot of civilization in the West and Europe was mainly due to the efforts of slavery. And the fact that slavery is now viewed as an immoral concept does not mean that they have to demolish the structures they built due to the efforts of slaves.
The fact that religion pioneered certain scientific discoveries or build schools does not automatically mean that religion is true or that religionists are justified. This is a very silly argument that appeals to a very ridiculous logical fallacy.
At least you accept that atheists are law-abiding. That shows that INDEED some people do not need your silly mythological religious books to behave normally.
Atheists are capable of determining right and wrong and acting so, based on truly altruistic values. Which is obviously far better than relying on a book that was written in the dark ages where we all thought the Earth was flat and also didn't know where the sun went at night.
If you need a book where stuff like slavery, misogyny, homophobia, genocidal cleansing, paedophilia etc is termed ok to tell you what is right and wrong then you are a STUPID RELIGIOUS IDIOT.
If you need a book written by goat herders in the ages where ignorance was the norm, to tell you the difference between good and bad then you're not a good person. You are merely a psychopath on a leash.
What is your basis for deciding that stoning people to death for working on the Sabbath is wrong? I'm sure you don't, but your Bible says you should.
What is your basis for deciding that killing little children is wrong? Your Bible highlights a lot of scenario where it would be perfectly justified to kill a child.
I know a lot of Muslims who are fine with seeing and even communicating with people who don't believe in Islam. Where is the basis for (most) Muslims to decide not to kill Christians and Atheists? The Qur'an specifically permits Muslims to kill all non-believers.
It almost seems like we all (well the sensible majority) know what is right and wrong even without reading all these perverted so-called "holy" books.
Hmm....maybe morality is something more than what religious folks would have us believe innit
Why are you mentioning a few? Do you need help? You're welcome, more disadvantages:
Environmental degradation ETC
The disadvantages of religion far outweigh the advantages. I challenge you to tell me any benefits that can be obtained by religious means that cannot be obtained by non-religious means.
Nonsensical egostical religious platitude.
We also "pray" and keep our hopes alive that our friends who are under the God delusion would use their brains one day, open their eyes and throw in the towel that the God claim is a myth.
I don't know but I'll tell you WHAT RELIGION has contributed to all spheres of the world
Environmental degradation and so on.
Do you really want to know? Take a look at countries with high population of atheists like China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Australia.
And compare it with highly religious countries in both population and law like Nigeria, Yemen, Bangladesh, Niger, Afghanistan, Egypt, Brazil.
If these do not tell you anything, nothing else will.
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