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| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Ofemannnu: 8:19pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Node911:We were told several times not to come out and stay indoors because oro wanted to come out. Is that proper? |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by adioolayi(m): 8:25pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
PrinceAsanike:Any Oba that has deviated from tradition is wrong...be it Christian or Muslim...as a fact, they are custodian of tradition and should not belong to any other "religion" of their stool as Traditional Identity. We can't say same for Sultan of Sokoto, for example, because his stool has Muslim identity....so, the arguement is not about Christian or Muslim thing.. It's about giving what belongs to Cesar to Cesar .. If you don't want to have anything to do with Traditionalists, especially Obaship in Yoruba land, move away from their stool. As simple as ABC |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Mrexcell(m): 8:34pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
That's cannibalism na the dead king is only trying to liberate his people from cannibalism and barbarism the ifa adherents should find a way to modernise their culture this is the 21st century. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Mrexcell(m): 8:36pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
ideatoprince18:Cannibalism is no culture abeg it's not something to be proud of. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by ideatoprince18(m): 8:38pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Mrexcell:.... Yes tell that to the guys from harvesters colony of Ogun state |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by adekolaelect(m): 8:43pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
GorillaApp:he doesn't have any nonsense right to give after he enjoyed the sacrifices did for him and enjoyed the traditional entitlement he now realised that the foreign Religion is better than his culture he enjoyed to the fullest . The throne of king is not voted, not mixed purely traditional . I he knew he could not give them what they want why staying ,dinned and enjoyed the one he portray as bad and later thing his opinions and wishes is superior to the post he headed . |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by integrity16(m): 8:51pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Ofemannnu:Does Islam not see Christianity as darkness? Does Christianity not see Islam as darkness? You are tagging your traditional practice as darkness because an alternative foreign religion was imposed on you by your colonial master. All the religions see themselves as light while they tag others as darkness. I am a Christian but I also believe that other people have the right to practice their religion without fear of intimidation. Kingship is traditional and so anyone who accepts a kingship position in Yoruba land must subject himself to the traditional practices involved. They shouldn't be shifting goal post. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Procashtips(m): 8:56pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Yoruba no kuku respect their culture before, na noise and mouth dem get. Tomorrow now, they'll be shouting omoluabi. Omoluabi wey foreign culture and religion don overcome. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Nobody: 9:19pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Ofemannnu:Lol! When a new pope was to be appointed, did they allow you to enter to see what’s producing black smoke? |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Laid2001: 9:36pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
1. Belonging to a secret cault is an offence by Nigerian law. 2. The post of Oba is for the lineage of Obas. Only princes can become an Oba. Oba is not for a babalawo nor for an abore. Those are isese religious people. 3. Culture is different from religion. And even amongst the isese people they have different religion. 4. Babarity is not part of Yoruba's original culture. Because the Lukumi people predates all those people that were turned to Orisas. Oduduwa was never an Obatala, nor Sango nor Osun worshipers. He lived before them.! And Ifa was his friend so he didn't even worship ifa.! 5. All the culture of occultism crept into the traditions mostly by some previous Obas because whatever and Oba does becomes the tradition. 6. So, just as those traditions crept in or were started during one previous king or the other, they can be changed and replaced by an Oba. 7. By our tradition Oba makes law and start or stop a tradition as he may wish.! 8. By Yoruba tradition whatever an Oba wants, he gets. He is a god in his own right. So no one can challenge him. 9. Aujale didn't hide his instructions and wish to be buried as a Muslim. He has enforced right of religion amongst all ijebu obas for decades without a single challenge by all these cowards who couldn't face him while alive.! He has ensured several Obas were buried according to Christian and Muslim rights withing the Ijebu empire. And also he has allowed those obas who are isese people to be buried according to isese rights.! |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by dododawa1: 10:20pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
The late king ate and drank with us, but in death, he turned his back on our customs |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Sirianese: 10:25pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
JuanDeDios:He's dead, there's nothing they can do with the corpse that could harm him in anyway...more to the point, he knew what the institution entailed, he went in there with his eyes open and spent all his life savoring the perks and privileges attached, but he found a way to doublecross the custodians and gyp them out of final rites required of him People like him are the reason Nigeria is upside-down today, people whose words count for nothing except they're benefiting at the expense of the next guy. Hypocrites and sycophants. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by GorillaApp(m): 10:33pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
adekolaelect:Well that is how you view it but truth be told, the court will honour the wishes of a dying man ( will). |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by KingOfPeaceJoy: 10:40pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Likely true, but he heard the call (tradition and culture) and he Awujale accepted it. So bad for the king but who knows what he is face there now ? GorillaApp: |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by KingOfPeaceJoy: 10:42pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
Very well said. I need more characters, please Seun over to you. casualobserver: |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by fineberry(m): 11:12pm On Jul 22, 2025 |
kingthreat:Really...is that how Oba's are buried. Butchering them⁉️ |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Lifegoesonandon: 12:13am On Jul 23, 2025 |
adenigga:They want to use peoples' head to buy the late oba. Same way after the death of oluibadan, I have adviced people to avoid Ibadan because they would use head of innocent people to bury the oluibadan of Ibadan. Avoid Ibadan please. Useless custom and traditions. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by OgaTheTop2: 12:37am On Jul 23, 2025 |
RightChannel:Awujale broke the bondage of heart eating. No more heart eating, period. Dying man's wish is final. ![]() |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by Shawarmagirl: 12:38am On Jul 23, 2025 |
ideatoprince18:Do Yoruba has culture before? If they do, this won't have happened. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by OgaTheTop2: 12:39am On Jul 23, 2025 |
adioolayi:Leave story bruh. A dying man's wish is final. ![]() |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by shotuns: 2:54am On Jul 23, 2025 |
Obas in Yoruba land are just custodians of Yoruba culture, gone re the days when they have that authority in Yoruba land and in Nigeria as a whole. Right now they 've been rendered useless except useful during elections periods to corner votes. If eventually go to court either in Nigeria or international court, they will still lose the case. Why? Because it is on record that monarch system had been long abolished in 1963 when Nigeria became a republic, so this alone indicates the mandatory practice of burying a dead oba by isese way has no root unless they go by the UN chatter on the right of Indigenous people to practice their religion/culture without any interference but they can't also because the monarchy system had been abolished. Either way na loss. We called upon them ( isese / obas to support the sovereignty of Yoruba land but they prefer to support Nigeria, politicians, elites oppressing their people through money politics, now Nigeria is happening to them. ELEDUMARE AREJODA!. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by JuanDeDios: 6:44am On Jul 23, 2025 |
Sirianese:He's legal person, king or not. Morally and legally, a person has the right to determine what you do with their body, so his family and the state government were right to follow his wishes. Fair point that he knew what the institution was and enjoyed its perks, but he could argue that he only found out certain things after he was in. In any case, if he people of good conscience within our traditional institutions are beginning to find certain aspects of them repugnant to basic decency and good conscience and are trying to change things from within, I say carry go. Only those within can change the system and that's the only way our traditions can survive undergoing a baby and bathwater situation. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by ideatoprince18(m): 7:14am On Jul 23, 2025 |
Shawarmagirl:Don't be an Irritant!!!!! .... They have and respect culture more than your tribe do. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by ceragon123: 7:19am On Jul 23, 2025 |
Which heart will the new Oba eat? If the new Oba does not eat the heart of the old Oba, it means everything changed. Everything! Except they will go ahead and exhume the corpse and remove the heart, if it is still there o. I really feel for my Ijebu people. The late Oba did not try at all... Nothing is as powerful as change after God almighty. adioolayi: |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by adioolayi(m): 7:37am On Jul 23, 2025 |
ceragon123:These are very old myth, that the new Oba must eat the heart or any other part of the Oba's body. It's been debunked. Take for instance, if the Old Oba passed on from a plane that crashed into the Ocean, will that stop the coronation of a new Oba The answer is NO.So, that was an old myth and it has been debunked.. atleast in several Yoruba land |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by RightChannel: 9:04am On Jul 23, 2025 |
OgaTheTop2:He tried |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by kingthreat(m): 11:37am On Jul 23, 2025 |
fineberry:Even worse, the ritual is very barbaric. That is why the Oba opted for burial according to his faith. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by kingthreat(m): 11:38am On Jul 23, 2025 |
osuofia2:The only thing constant in this world is change. Rigidity has never been in the interest of humanity. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by udeh3(m): 11:42am On Jul 23, 2025 |
adioolayi:So, you're saying it's traditional to bury the late king with human head abi? I just pray none of your family member be a victim... Our tradition should not be devilish or seek for human blood! How do you dismember a dead body into different parts and you call that a tradition. Tradition can be questioned and policies amended. With time, many traditions will be obsolete and they'll outlive their relevance once it's against humanity. Once upon a time in Delta State, there was a tradition that kill twins once they're born, I grew up there. Infact, a close relation of mine twin survived as when the wife was pregnant, then, no technology to know the gender, he Sha figured it somehow and took the wife to Benin, after years of delivery, he took the twin back to Delta State. This happened with fear, until this cultural law was challenged. Today, the twin are over 28yrs of age, handsome boys which could have been killed my the culture and tradition of the land People make laws and people can changed it once it's against humanity and morality |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by adioolayi(m): 11:56am On Jul 23, 2025 |
udeh3:Tradition and Culture are diversified...varying from one culture to the other. While your tradition kills Twins as you claimed and as reported in some parts of Nigeria's history, giving Mary Slessor's account and her intervention in stopping the killings...Do you know that the same twins born in South West Nigeria were being celebrated and their mother becomes goddess especially if they are triplets. You can Google Igboora in Oyo State..the town with the most twins in the world! What I am saying is, cultures are different , dismembering the parts of late King for rituals for a new King are myths..and it's not in our own Cultures anymore. Many Oba's have joined their ancestors in Yoruba land of recent, from Ooni, to Alaafia, to Soun, to Olubadan...did you hear anyone buried with them ![]() So, please, our tradition and culture are different...anyone not ready to follow tradition should stay clear of Obaship stool. It's for traditionalist and not Christians or Muslims. |
| Re: Awujale’s Burial: Ifa Council To Take Ogun Govt To Court by EzeCanada: 12:08pm On Jul 23, 2025 |
This matter tied wrapper o. A wise King ate the heart of his predecessor for breakfast and japa-ed 🏃 to the other world. How we go come do am? |
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